Peter Molyneux has told Eurogamer that he doesn't think PlayStation Move is the same kind of step forward as Microsoft's Project Natal, but admits he fancies a crack on Sony's new magic wand controller.
"This is purely me talking personally, but I think maybe it's slightly more a device for the core than it is for the casual market, because I think it's quite precise." What a retarded statement is that??!!! So in short, it's better since it's precise, but it's not targeted at the casuals and so is worse. I am a HC gamer and care crap about casual stuff... So for me a FPS or TPS being played by Move is a 'Good' sign and not a flaw like Mr Molyneux sees.... So he also confirms that Fable 3 will be fully targeted at casuals doesn't he.
Is a bigger leap forward. If it's really good, this could become a new standard control scheme. The thing is that a lot of FPS fans complain about the lack of precision you get from a controller as compared to a mouse, using move is a lot more like using a mouse. If they get enough hardcore gamers to switch, and people start reporting a real accuracy advantage thanks to Move, console gaming could be changed forever in a way that the wiimote wasn't able to really follow through on.
Peter what he think of this then...
It's only a bigger step forward if you subscribe to the idea that the future of gaming is controller-less. Personally, I'd rather hold something, than pretend I'm holding something. But then again, I'm one of those people that doesn't much care for motion controllers in general. But the Move is more my taste between the two, as I think Natal is more gimmiky than practical/useful.
Don't give a crap is bigger step than who gives a crap.
yeah, because Sony's is an actual controller, unlike Natal (the clap simulator)...lol
^ It can't even do that! Check out this priceless video! http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Obviously its a bigger step anyone can see that, it gaming without a controller. Move is just a side step of the Wii and slightly a bit backwards because all the "decent" games require 2 controllers to play. Edit: I never said they invented it, they have taken Sonys simple eyetoy and made it so it can recognize you in 3D space, has speech recognition, can track multiple people and scan objects more than the eyetoy ever could. Move is just a direct rip off of the Wii with less features like no motion in the nunchuk, sure it might be slightly more accurate but the Wii is obviously accurate enough or millions wouldnt be buying it.
Gaming without controller happened on the PS2.. So stop smoking whatever you are and stop living in a delusional world saying M$ invented it. If PS3 mimicking the Wii is a step backwards, then Natal mimicking a last generation tech is even worse. EDIT: "Sonys simple eyetoy and made it so it can recognize you in 3D space".. Move can be recognized in 3D space. "Speech recognition".. Confirmed as well "can track multiple people "-Confirmed PS Move can track 4 which is as much as Natal. "scan objects more than the eyetoy ever could".. Like what? Both scan 4 people on screen. If you are talking about objects, then they haven't shown people anything that has been scanned only some pre made videos of that... Not gonna trust anything till they show it in real time. And besides that... Move will work at 60FPS and Natal will be locked up at 30FPS. Move only uses 2MB on PS3 memory and lags only 1 frame whereas Natal uses 20-30% 360 power with more than 100ms latency for only 1 user, number grows as more people come in. Forget even that... Move actually can mimic Natal as per Digital Foundries anaysis where it tracked the entire upped body... In short MOVE>NATAL.
Omega4 If you had a Ps2 or if you have a Ps3 you would know that this is done already. There are at least 7 or 8 games on the Psn that uses this. It's cool but feel like a gimick very fast.
What about Eyepet on PS3? Can interact with the pet using the Hands only, even interaction with Voice.
Now i see why you have 2 bubbles. It amazes me how you can be so stupid and delusional 24/7.
It's very possible on PS3 as of..............NOW. They have a couple of games available on PSN that don't require a controller. Face it, the only reason you like Natal is because it's on 360.
Your statements lead to one question. Do people want to play games without a controller?
What on earth Omega..."Of course it's a bigger step it's gaming without a controller". Ok so lets pretend Eyetoy and PSeye haven't existed for the past half decade :/ I sometimes wonder if some of you people on here have been gaming longer than the 7th generation. You've just lost all credibility
course he does....cause MS said so
Darkeyes just simply OWNED Omega!
Move WAND may be able to pick up 3d space, but not your whole body, without a wand, like Natal. Therefore, in that category, natal is superior, a bigger step forward. Again, with the tracking it's only tracking the movement of the WAND, not the whole body, like natal does. If you're playing a fighting game you need 4 wands and tape 2 of them to your legs. Your argument is weak. Natal's technology has the ability to play with the lights out in complete dark. Natal's technology is much more advanced than the eyetoy or the move. If you can't see that move is a complete ripoff of the wii, than you're a blind fanboy. Most 360 users are very excited for the possibilities with the dashboard and the speech and face recognition. I am still skeptical that natal will be the next best thing, I am waiting for E3 to pass final judgment. But to sit there and think the move is better tech than natal is hilarious.
Interests me. As a hard core gamer and having owned a Wii from launch (without actually having turned it on for well over a year) all this motion stuff is like nails on a chalkboard for me.
I was on your same boat but it seems Socom 4 is better played with PS Move than DS3. Zipper is noticing how Move users have the edge over DS3 on multiplayer matches. There is a article on Digital Foundry about this. @disagree A comment would be appreciated. Unless of course you have nothing good to say and you are disagreeing out of hate. EDIt: Here is the quote form DF article: /q "I've spoken to the SOCOM team and they've had troubles because the motion control people sometimes really kick the ass of the DualShock people. It's unfair," he says. "They're having balancing issues and stuff. Some people are really good with the motion controller and some people are really good with the DualShock. Some players work better on some devices and that's cool." /q
I think they were just disagreeing because of you fanboy agenda. Now all of a sudden because of Socom Sonys PMC is awesome but you bash Natal. You are the worst kind of hypocrite. I know you said you just changed your mind over SOCOM 4 but what makes you think that Natal can't put of something equally amazing? That's why judging something before YOU try in makes you look so stupid. This is why Sony fanboys are the worst, N4G member PS3 circle jerks like this.
You know why Natal cant do something thsi amazing because the eyetoy cant. What you going to do make a gun shape w/ your hand and start shooting lol?? Natal uses NO CONTROLLER there is no way u can play a hardcore game like socom or be playing anythign really competitive w/ natal and thats a FACT nothing MS can do to change that. MS has shown a lot of what natal can do but nothign they shown involved a game like Socom. Day 1 Sony was like THIS is for whats to come nothign about Natal is exciting at all. And just like raz I was not interested in this at all until I seen socom and if its really precise and it has advantage over DS3 then Sony will definetly open up a new market and bring something MS or Nintendo can ever do(unless they copy).
You just proved his point; complete morons on this site. Natal is not the same technology as eyetoy. Sure, it's the same CONCEPT, but far advanced tech. Do some research buddy, you'd be surprised. haha you are such a liar too, Natal has shown hardly ANY games. They have shown burnout and the kickball like game. Other than that, it's a tight lid to E3. With your logic, the move is the same as the wii, huh? I mean, the wii had a wand motion controller first. So, therefore, they are the same exact thing. See how idiotic that sounds? Who cares if they have the same concept, the technology has vastly improved. That's like saying will Genesis and the PS3 must produce the same graphics because they are both consoles and must be the same! Use your brain once in a while. Be an adult, don't pass judgment on Natal until E3, when you actually see the final product working LIVE
natal = camera move = camera and controller anyone else see which is better?
Milo is fake! That's all I know Molyneux.
Natal footage at 60fps
"natal = camera move = camera and controller anyone else see which is better?" Call me an xbox360 fanboy all you want but here is a good example of why i keep messing with you all dumbtards. Did you know that there is a big chance that MS Xbox can add wand and nunchuk to natal? hey but not just that there is a lot of other things that the camera can recognize like electronic devices mmm... interesting right?
Move works with real games, you can't say that about Natal. Move has 1:1 capture, you can't say that about Natal. I'd much rather play a game were you do gladiator combat, then play a game were you knock a ball at a wall. If Moley was really impressed with Natal why didn't he make Fable 3 with Natal functionallity, wait because he can't make a game that functions with either Natal or the controller. Oh, and so far Natal has no xbl support so forget about playing games online with your friends on xbl, but Move has psn support.
from my personal standpoint
Molyneux talkin pooh again, "yes, we know u gotta hard-on 4-Micrsoft"
Like you have one for Sony?
I agree, with GOOD reason 2 aswel
Why are devs acting like fanboys? Whenever a Sony dev is questioned they never talk about other product. eg:-sony thanked nintendo at this GDC for making motion sensing create new audiences and bringing innovative tech. Sony is not one step ahead they are on next gen now. This MS acts like as if natal is the very first tech. Its all about software which tracks the motion. PS2 did what its hardware can do. Till now i didn't find a proper Natal capturing at 60fps even after its going to be 1 year.
Obviously he will said that. Is not like he will said ''Move is bigger step than Natal''. Some people overreact with Peter answers.
he will said ? WTF
oh stop being an ahole, english is obviously not his first language. Tell you what I want you to go on a japanese forum right now and make a post.....oh wait...lol
The problem about Natal is that either it is going to cost more than an new 360, or else it is not going to work probably. They should have waited a few years with Natal, it is too ambitious.
Natal is Microsoft's EyeToy; the technology hasn't come into its own with lag and no feedback. Natal also continues the use of EyeToyesque functionality, but the PSEye/Motion plus might be a more realistic place for it. I see something like Natal realizing its full potential with the PS4Eye, along with the MoveShock, and 3D gaming in 2015. Or we can see it marketed to casual so heavily they buy it in droves not knowing 80% of the games aren't worth the effort.
Natal is the PS Eye with the Microsoft stamp on it
... and will cost you your house and your kidney.
reminds me of an article entitled "HDDVD is a bigger step than Bluray"
There is no freakin' way that was a real article. If someone has a link, please share it. I love laughing at crazy.
Move is a better version of the Wii controller, and Natal is a better version of EyeToy. It's hard to say which one is a bigger step since they are very different from each other.
PS Eye is the innovation from Eyetoy. Some people don't know PS Eye can track Body, Hands better than Eyetoy. With a simple development for Recognition of Face and Voice. Besides, can track the Move controllers in the same time.
the PS Eye games on the PS3? They are literally NO better than the EyeToy games from the PS2. You can try to spew anything about it being better in what it CAN do, but I will tell you that what it IS doing is nothing special. Don't you think that if the PS Eye was able to do what Natal does, Sony would have already been developing better titles for it and advertising the hell out of it? Natal is the better version of EyeToy/PS Eye. That sounds better.
No. That sounds like a dream you had. The Natal is the unfinished, unreleased version of the PS Eye that has proven to have more lag and a lower FPS count. That doesn't need to sound better. That is the current truth.
I got a PS Eye in a cheap Eye of Judgment bundle to make textures for Little Big Planet. It turns out it really sucks at that. So if Move turns out to suck I'll have no use for the thing beyond maybe doing taunt faces in Burnout:Paradise. And I'm kind of tired of that. I doubt I'll see anything that makes me want to buy Natal either.
Natal- Updated version of EyeToy Move- Updated version of the Wii Controller
No, the Move is a update over the PS EYE toy. It is not a copy from Nintendo qua technology, Nintendo use licentie for the technology Sony not, because it is a upgrade over Eye toy. The Wii mote don't use a camera, the inspire to play game with motion sensors is from Sony not Microsoft or Nintendo, what those people are thinking? The sixax is also use for sensors but less what the Wii mote can do.
Natal is a same as PS3's PS eye. So iPad is correct. its an updated version of PS2's eyetoy.
No, the PS EYE is upgrade over the PS EYE TOY. And What you talking about is different, Natal technology is already in EYE TOY but it's not a PS updated PS EYE TOY. The PS MOVE is a updated Wii mote, but the technology from those stuff is from Sony itself and Nintendo have to paid for it for licentie. The point is, Sony has that technology way longer than Nintendo and Microsoft and that's a fact you cannot ignore. I agree what Natal is more directed to the PS EYE TOY but the PS MOVE is directed to Wii MOTE.
@The real killer Before you go ranting about the tech used in each form of motion controller, you should know that the wiimote does use a camera, and it is in the wiimote and you point it at the sensor bar which has LED lights that the camera in the wiimote can see. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
The simple fact that he is constantly on damage control shows how poor Natal really is.
Yeah I don't get this guy. It's like Shane Kim is holding his wife at gunpoint and forcing him to say all of this. Either that or he is just plain retarded.
Move is just a wii motion rip off. Natal is a completely new step.
BS Natal is just an updated Eyetoy. Any non-fanboy can see this.
Are you kidding? Here watch this... http://www.youtube.com/watc... And here's another one... http://www.youtube.com/watc... So do you still think Natal is a new step?
Where do you get off speaking for non-fanboy when you're a fanboy?
theyve been working on MOVE since 2004 before the wii motion was announced...
So stupid ppl would look at them as Innovators
Good logic, than that must mean; The PS3 Move is an updated wii wand.
The PS move is nothing we have not seen. I think, it will be easier to hit the ground running if it comes out with a Wii-like package. Unlike the Eyetoy, MS is really marketing/pushing Natal as a next best thiing(whatever that might mean to most). In the end, if you have something that is "FUNCTIONAL": It's all about Developer Support My friend.
natal is just the new wii, its gonna be a fad if it succeeds, while move is just some optional add on most people wont buy anyway since they think its a wii-rip off. honestly im not getting any of them, i like real games, not stuff that makes me dance and wiggle my toe. although playing a new elder scrolls game wud be amazing with MOVE :p drools, thats its only use for me lol
Natal is just a playstation eyetoy, only on xbox360. Yeah, I can now clean windows on my xbox360, with lag!!
Sony has been toying with 3D motion recognition since Eye of Judgement. http://www.youtube.com/watc... People keep acting like Natal is the second coming while discounting many of Sony's achievements that are introductions to some of the same tech ideas. Freakin fanboys.
people keep acting like Move is the second coming while discounting many of Nintendo's achievements that are introductions to some of the same tech ideas. It's funny to see the same people that constantly bash the Wii come in here and leg-hump Sony and the Move controller.
No one is acting like the Move is ANYTHING except Natal lovers that feel the need to validate their breakdancing, body twitching slow-mo cam. The Move was just named and shown with a few types of games. That is all. Sony isn't advertising it yet. The PS3 players haven't expressed any real motivation for the Move. Our "excitement", if you call it that, is reserved. Much like the hype for the Move. When it happens, we'll see. Until then. . . BAM!
http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... There are many more, but fanbabies will never admit that ! Edit: @ butterfinger below, yes you are right, the first and third videos are hilarous, especially at the end showing "2004" !
are pretty hilarious actually. I really enjoyed how they had the quotes from an MS employee saying how this has never been seen in any consumer electronic before, then they show a clip of the exact thing being done on the PS2. If Sony wanted to go really low, they could make that third video an ad on TV. That would be a little bit too close to politics, though. lol.