Microsoft employees fueling silly fanboy wars

EuGN writes: "I usually despise these sort of posts. Hate them with a passion, and even writing this is making me feel dirty. But seriously, i think this needs to come to light, simply because as a spokesman for Microsoft – he should be showing a professional face, not helping to insult their competitors fanbase. Aaron G, leave it out – for your own sake.

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[MrMacabre]

Lol executive fanboyism! MS bosses are trolls!

Waits for Sonys comeback...

;P

[Cold 2000]

Greenberg should have stayed out of it. Thats just not classy.

Sony diehards. dont need Greenberg to prove that the are the worst. They do a fine job themselves.

[rroded]

they need to do something to keep attention off themselves....

but all the ps3 is doomed press and the double standard on ps3 game reviews is ok. Woe the gamer who steps up n calls it bull$h!t... This from the company who brought us rrod pay 4 p2p laggy online n buying out third party devsfor exclusivity....

[Blaze929]

Aw soon at I saw that tweet pop up in my browser i just KNEW someone was going to make a stupid article out of it.

[raztad]

Pls, does anyone care to explain me what's going on exactly?

How is Greenburg related to the article "Why Sony fanboys ..."?

@mooey

Thanks man. I got it.

Wow, just wow! Thats lame as hell, I'm pretty sure it disproves the whole article.

[Mo0eY]

Good job, Greenberg. You just made all Xbox 360 fanboys look far worse than Sony fanboys.

@Raztad: Greenberg retweeted Stephen Colbert (of N4G)'s article. Look at his account: http://twitter.com/aarongre... which comes from http://www.twitter.com/n4g

[xTruthx]

Now we see y we have so many delusional 360 fan boys. Monkey does what monkey sees

[RememberThe357]

It's pathetic how the two fanboy "factions" try to legitimize their they're fanboyness by claiming that the other side is "worse".

Fanboys can either be entertaining or annoying, but one group does not rank above another. They are all fanboys and all need to stop hating.

[Anorexorcist]

This doesn't prove anything against the PS3 fanboys. This only further legitimizes the claim that MS fanboys are the most delusional, desperate fanboys out of the whole arena, and apparently the MS execs themselves fall into that same group. Why the hell would any self-respecting, professional executive continue to perpetuate fanboy notions and directly have a hand in trying to disarage the competition's fanbase?

Good god Cold, just shut the up already! You can't even see straight!

[ChozenWoan]

hasn't it been reported before that some MS employees have been caught fanning the flames of the console wars in various forums. Not to mention trying to rig online GOTY voting events or something like that.

Ohh and lets not get started on the Blu-Ray/PS3/Sony is doomed articles, or the fud articles whenever there is good news about the Sony. Just a few weeks ago MS had their X10 or whatever conference and N4G wasn't flooded with Megatons of Xbox360 is doomed articles. Yet this week there is good news about the PSMove and suddenly it's as if Zeus has unleashed the Kraken all up in this bit.

Ohh well, feels like just another day in N4G land to me.

[jack_burt0n]

@MrMacabre

ur av pic is awesome makes me wanna phlegm all over the screen.

[Genesis5]

The best thing to do with a guy like Greenberg is just ignore him. That's what guys like him hate the most.

[HolyOrangeCows]

Greenberg has ALWAYS acted like an uninformed xbox fanboy:
"We have proved over the years, that all games can be realized on Xbox 360. Just look at titles like Final Fantasy XIII, Forza Motorsport 3, Gears 2, and Modern Warfare 2 on Xbox 360? These games and our leading online experiences demonstrate that Xbox 360 is the most powerful games and entertainment console"
-Aaron Greenberg

A guy who claims 2 sub-HD games, a game with broken online play, and a game on two discs shows that the 360 is the most powerful....you expect someone so uninformed about the product he's PAID to know about to be professional?

[eagle21]

Basically, anyone who uses their brain and avoids Microsoft products are fanboys to Microsoft. They want people brainwashed so they can have their little way.

[socomnick]

Lol Greenberg is hilarious. So what if he trolls , atleast he admits he is a fanboy. Right now he is reading the comments and laughing at the Sony idiots overeating and getting angry.

[Will-UK]

I just lost a bubble in that thread for saying you can't single out 1 group becuase 360 fanboys for example have said and done equally bad things looool check comment history just wow

[CrazzyMan]

I really don`t remeber something to happen like this before MS joined GAMING industry.

GAMING was supposed to be FUN, and not like this... Just pathetic.

[ChineseDemocracy]

Come on, what are we like in the 3rd grade? Way to act professional and keep negative opinions to yourself.

Stay classy Greenberg.

[MorganX]

Hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but Microsoft has not choice. They're sitting pretty, but the writing is on the wall. They don't know what to do or what will happen. It's flying under the radar because MS is doing a good job of burying it, but the most significant even in gaming in the past 2 years is that developers are downgrading games because Microsoft lacks next-gen storage media. MS has to do everything they can to keep this from becoming the headline story. If it catches hold theres not much they can do about it.

What's more important right now than majore games being downgraded because the 360 has an obsolete sotrage platform? MS HAS to keep everyone occupied with other FUD.

[sikbeta]

What a Surprise -_-

lol and The Worst Thing, some xboyz M$ Diehards are "defending" their "Master", TOOLS, is just doesn't Sound Correct as a Word to classify them, a Better Word can be [ZEALOTS]

lol and Stephen Colbert is The Real NAME of BUNGIE

[topdawg122]

"Sony fanboys are the worst?", I think this kinda shows the opposite. Way to be professional lol

[jack_burt0n]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Gothdom]

Wow...

First, cold's comments of the original article screamed of Irony. Now Aaron G just made the same blunder but on a bigger scale. Wake up call, people.

I understand someone having a preferance for one over the other, like sports teams, yet when some people need to go in ps3 articles to bash everything said there when they didn't even try/own one, that's just sad. Cold must not have a psn ID. And I'm sure he's gonna say something like "I don't post my PSN blah blah blah"... And as a ps3 gamer, I'm kind of tired of this behavior. I mean, I never been to a 360 forums to bash the system. I don't care for it, but I don't need to go and piss on it's fanbase. They have the right to their opinions.

You don't think I'm speaking the truth ? Check the ps3 boards on gamefaqs, or simply Neogaf... the latter being a place where a MS employee had an account to bash GT5 just before Forza was released BTW. But I guess no media remembers that, and the rest of the people remembers even less.

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

This is why MS fanboys are the WORST of the bunch.

[EVILDEAD360]

LMAO @ the Greenburg haters trying to pretend he wrote the article.

So he tweeted the link? Now they want to refocus their anger over the original article calling them out onto A.G.?

The best part is watching the new Sony people attempting to be Greenburg and bashing Microsft and you don't even hear one peep from the PS3 fans.

They've been unnecessarily going at Greenburg all last year..I bet it's got to be sweet revenge for him to simply tweet a link and kick back with a cold beer.

I'm entertained

Evil

[vhero]

First Forza devs stooping to new lows now this guy.. Not that its surprising the guys a grade A tool who gives the console a bad name.

[Millah]

Hey well at least that means Greenberg probably visits N4G. So maybe he sees all the wonderful comments people leave about him here :P

[Consoldtobots]

funny how one of the biggest 360 fanboys here has his twitter directly replied to by Greenturd.

IMO MS has read "the prince" by machiavelli as have all the other would be tyrants in the fedgov and are trying to run a very tactical disinformation campaign. The CIA specializes in this crap and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if they brought in real disinformation spooks or cronies from the army's psyops division to consult on how this media war should be waged against a Japanese corporation. I think it's pretty basic, they can't possibly control the whole internet so they focus on its gathering centers (N4G being a significant target) who then "get a call" or email from someone like Greenturd who starts to inject his MS poison pill into the equation. We know this isn't based on speculation because we saw Greenturd do it in plain sight when HipHop Gamer was up and coming. Next thing you know, he wasn't such a PS3 fanboy anymore and started pushing MS product. Rinse and repeat.

[Jaces]

Oh the irony...

[sid4gamerfreak]

Time and again all of you bash Greenburg, come on this is old news we all know who he is, who he supports and why does he do so. Labeling someone as 'douchebag' is only immature. I do not like him, you guys do not like him so just stop calling him names. We need the gaming community to be much mature than that.

Peace is what the world requires not war.

In n4g the gaming community slides downhill every single day.

[gaffyh]

Microsoft PR - "Doing what it takes to make the teenage fanbase happy"

Greenburg, grow up, you give MS a bad name by promoting BS like this.

@below - I don't think it upset people more than it showed how immature Microsoft's PR department is. Retweeting such an article is something a 12 year old would do, not what you'd expect from a middle-aged exec.

[tatotiburon]

Greenberg is so right: "@aarongreenberg Looks like I upset a few Sony fanboys by retweeting an article today, I guess the article did warm me of such a reaction."

[Lifendz]

they take one article or comment by a PS3 fanboy and use it to justify their own fanboyism. If you devote the majority of your energy in arguing with fanboys guess what you start to sound like? A fanboy. Jack Tretton does an interview and he praises the competition. Aaron Greenberg does an interview and he sounds like any one of these fanboys on N4G.

Hey Aaron, you're an exec for a pretty powerful company. Your job is to sell that machine. How many potential customers do you think your childish statements turn away from that machine?

[gameraxis]

I think that both systems are great, maybe i prefer one over the other, but not really convinced i need to express that day in and day out to other people, but i will express my feeling that Arron Greenburg is the biggest kind of tool!

He is so uninformed about the ps3 side of things that he shouldn't be allowed to speak on its behalf. I remember an interview on the Bitbag where killzone 2's MP was getting some great critical acclaim, and when asked if he played it, he responded "No, not yet, is it even any good?" and Torrance was like "oh hell yea its good..." like wtf?

then on another podcast he was talking about the online, and the ps3 having lack of games...

he has this idea of what the 360 probably was to the ps3 at the beginning of the ps3's life, but has failed to notice that things have changed, and if you ask me, he's on the wrong side of the competition to be stating those sorts of things...

i dunno, when i was in the military there were these lazy MF's you would meet every so often, they're kinda chubby and wreak of self entitlement because they're insecure and unmotivated... just the type of person you want to beat on for a little ya know? well, AG is one of those people (although i don't believe in putting hands on anyone who hasn't done the same to you) but you guys know what i mean... just a crappy personality

[Ravage27]

great display of class from the leader of the xbots. I never expected anything less.

Then again, this is from the same guy who thinks that having FF13 running on 3 discs at 576p resolution is somehow a showcase of the 360's capabilities....

[EvilBlackCat]

Ok lets read it one more time

"n4g Why Sony Fanboys Are the Worst of the Bunch: The Mind of Game Writes"

Its he responsible for all those articles with "Sony Fanboys Are the Worst" in the tittle?

but hey you guys keep showing why you all Sony Fanboys Are the Worst

Keep breaking the same leg!

and here they come with their disagree
EXPLAIN YOURSELF

[NickIni]

All fanboys are the same no matter who they support, arrogant 12 year olds struggling to cope with puberty.

And yet people still point fingers at the other sides, declaring them worse, when in reality they do exactly the same thing just replacing "Sony" with "Microsoft" or what have you. So immature.

[wpggamer]

I have yet to hear about a reviewer getting death threats about an xbox 360 game getting 9.3 out of 10. Adam Sessler hasn't had to defend last years goty choice in a separate blog or podcast. Why is that? And you guys are talking about class?

Apple fanboys just buy apple product. Nuff said. No death threats.

Xbox fanboys just buy 360 games. No death threats.

Windows fanboys just bash apple. Well there's one. But still no death threats.

PC gamer fanboys just bash consoles, but not much, since there aren't that many, or they're playing the sims. Still, no death threats.

I don't think this article was totally off base here. I know I'll get attacked from one group, but it's got to be said, there is one severely delusional group on n4g. There is medication available for this condition btw.

[N4Flamers]

I would have loved to see his input on this.

OT

It's a sad day when executives result to harm consumers. I would think that they would want to put a 360 in every home. That would include PS3 fans. Usually there is a chance that people might become multiconsole owners or at least respect your product.

I think PS3 fans have a right to be angered by this shallow attack. He deserves everything he hears for having the business sense of a carrot. Glad I sold my 360.

[Tricksy]

turning gaming itself into an FPS will move their console, and it does.

People attracted to the sort of juvenile, aggresive and bully like PR Microsoft and Greenburg imploy, as well as bigots who feel the need to "buy american" as if it is somehow benefitting them(like it isnt their stupid presidents they keep voting for and their wars that are f*cking up their country, nope!, its out of country corporations.... while in truth its Corporate America that is and alwasy has been building a corporate empire. The corporations already have tons of money, why do you think buying an xbox from Microsoft is going to make your life any easier, LOL... course simple logic like that is beyond the uneducated masses your country is full of)

its people like that who are attracted to this style of PR, which is not only unprofessional, its utterly unrelated to the end result at hand; games.

Never has Sony or Nintendo gone to the extreme low level of class that Microsoft has in instigating fanboism, and yet we get an article about Sony fanboys, it doesnt make sense, and its not supposed to. Its cunning; its supposed to make the people who bought 360s, and consumers in general, feel like they have an enemy.

lol its the same sort of logic used to start the war in Irag, create an enemy that the people should hate and be afraid of and the people will give you their money and support you....

so odd, that a country cant learn from such a big mistake they already made, and remain so naive. should i pity their lack of education, or detest their complacency?

[ludabenza]

Microsoft in its finest hour, I see. What an extremely immature thing to do. I doubt that you will ever see a Sony or Nintendo exec doing the same childish thing.

Aaron Greenburg has certainly reached a new low today.

[lokiroo420]

What a fvcking loser!

[PeptoBismol]

its Aaron GreenTURD's tweet. lmao

that guy is seriously a loser like you said.

[Das_Bastardion]

Its not the first time that this poor little man tries to bash Sony and its fans in one way or another.

Just, dont fall for it. Xbox sure has some great games, but when this fvcktard opens his mouth is only to spread the sh!t he loves to eat.

[AngryTypingGuy]

While I do agree that Sony fanboys, at least on this board seem to act more childish, I don't think a person in that position should be making comments on it. Although, I fully support his right to say it, it doesn't mean he should.

[PopEmUp]

"While I do agree that Sony fanboys, at least on this board seem to act more childish"

LMFAO and you saying is more maturer, you need to stop being so deluded here dude

[avengers1978]

When you have an unstoppable juggernaught breathing down your neck, all you can do is talk trash, even ms excs. know that the PS3 is superior in everyway, and now is just a few short months away from surpassing the 360 in sales.
360 has done nothing these past few years, there games don't look any better then they did in 2007, psn is just as good as live now, and all the best looking games are on playstation exclusively.
Uncharted 2 won every game of the year award that there is to win, and I think God of War 3 will win this year.

[Trebius]

Now every Xbot in the world is going to follow his lead and act like a bunch of losers.

Good job Aaron, you're definitely a reflection of the Xbox Community as a whole.

Disgusting fukcing slob of a man.

[AngryTypingGuy]

@ PopEmUp = "LMFAO and you saying is more maturer, you need to stop being so deluded here dude" - As well as smarter and having a better grip on how the English language works.

"and you saying is more maturer" - LOL, classic, where do you get your material?

[Nicholas Cage]

first let me start off with saying: im a proud ps3 owner, ive had one for 3 years now, and ive been coming on this website thinking...what in the living hell are people complaining about? this company did this, that company did that, but ive come to the conclusion that truth in speaking...and many, many people will agree with me, theres been an unclean pest like insults vomiting from fanboy's mouths, and from the most part what i see is sony is teh doomz articles spewing from n4g, so ofcourse anyone with any sort of backbones going to get pissed! its consol racism, and its never going to go away. but what needs to stop is unprofessional journalism. that can be changed.

[PotNoodle]

I just quickly thrown this together, i do agree that even as the writer - it is poor journalism. But after the way these lot use n4g to throw insults at each other, i thought just this once, i thought i'd post something like this.

I'm the one usually reporting stories like this, for their poor quality - and i'm not too bothered if it does not get through. I just think it is amazing to see a well known employee who's job it is - to speak to the public doing such things, and i'd like other people to see this.

[wpggamer]

"Paranoia is a thought process heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of irrationality and delusion. Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory beliefs concerning a perceived threat towards oneself."

[GR8 1]

So does Sony employees f*ckin war is war get over it. Sony fan boy's got butt hurt their gonna start crying soon.

[Tony-A]

War is war?

Are you serious? What war?! This is all sparked by fanboys!!! There is no war! What surprises me is that Aaron Greenburg keeps fueling stuff like this...

Reggie talks about his system
Jack Tretton talks about his
Greenburg talks about how his "IS BETTER" than the others, and does anything (as you can see) to try and prove it.

[evilmonkey501]

Seriously, go to English class. Reading your post is like reading a text message from a four year old. Use your spell checker.Structure a complete sentence.

[Dance]

Sonys in-house developers are no better when it comes to dissing on its competitors hardware

[PotNoodle]

Thats directly at a competitor though. Not at the fan base.

[TOO PAWNED]

Where is your proof, or is this generic attempt to make it 50%-50% right away? In this case you have your head representative posting fanboy comments. You know what, if Jack tretton did this, i would be ashamed.

[Tony-A]

Polyphony: "We have the definitive racing simulator"
Turn 10: "GT isn't as modern as ours"

Indirect versus direct.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Deathrow: None of these companies have attacked the fanbase. They always jab at the competition. I don't get your point at all.

EDIT: Fanboys are not the same to me as the fan base imo but I see where you are coming from. You win. :) Aaron needs to stay out of all of that.

[PotNoodle]

Unless i'm miss understanding, he re-tweeted a post which was saying "Sony fanboys are the worst". Fairly sure he should take a more professional stance in the public, as that is more or less him supporting fanboy insults, aimed at the competitions fanbase.

[Optical_Matrix]

Give me on instance where a Sony dev has literally and specifically downplayed 360 hardware. Actually mentioned the hardware in a sentence and ripped it a new one. Go on. I dare you. Because I'll bet all my Uni money, you can't.The most they say is that so and so game is only possible on PS3. Which, in the case of GOW III, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, MGS4...well, it's true.

[ChozenWoan]

Gran Tourismo has been called that for years.

[tomford16]

Stay classy Microsoft.

[Eddie20101]

Classy and Microsoft aren't two words I would put together. This Greenburgh tweet is not the first example of Microsoft or its reps being not classy. The classy people like Peter Moore and Jay Allard are gone or we here nothing from them any more.

[Hoggy1983]

If PS3 developers (people who actually know what their talking about) don't rip 360 hardware. Then why do PS3 fanboys on here?

[Eddie20101]

People who complain about Xbox 360 hardware problems are mostly people who have experienced these problems first hand, mostly by having had to replace there 360 console, many having to get it replaced more than once. Me being one of them, and I take very good care of my consoles.

It is a fact that there are problems with Xbox 360 hardware. But when there are comments or complaints about the problem the Xbox 360 people seem to assume its a fanboy response.

Kinda a school yard mentality, seems like there's a Xbox 360 play book they refer to whenever there is any kind of complaint about Microsoft or Xbox 360.

First rule, call anyone who has a problem with Microsoft or Xbox 360 a PS3 Fanboy to somehow negate the truth.

[TOO PAWNED]

Wow how pathetic, well played Greenberg, well played. One of reasons i will never buy 360

[Tony-A]

This has been going on forever.

Remember when the Turn 10 guy got caught on NeoGAF or whatever trying to flame using his executive email?

[pixelsword]

http://www.thebitbag.com/20...

[PirateThom]

Aaron Greenberg is such a scumbag.

[n4gn4gn4gn4g]

Well...we all sprung from apes...Aaron just didn't spring very far.

[Serjikal_Strike]

douchebag

[sikbeta]

@n4gn4gn4gn4g

That's a DIRECT INSULT to the Poor APES, PETA is Coming For ya... you've been warned...

[Consoldtobots]

"Well...we all sprung from apes...Aaron just didn't spring very far."

most people evolved from apes, not all.

[DaTruth]

"Well...we all sprung from apes...Aaron just didn't spring very far."

Please, speak for yourself!

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I think they all do it. Aaron has an extra special level of ignorance about him that does put him above the others. He literally pretends to be in a different world most of the time when he talks. I don't think anyone believes much of what he says.

They all give each other gentle slaps in their comments but nothing vile or ridiculous like a fanboy would. These people are PAID to be mouth pieces for their respective companies fanboys do it for FREE like idiots. Not the same thing AT ALL.

[Das_Bastardion]

I cant believe it... i actually agree with you...

WTF is going on?

DOOMSDAY 2012!!!

LOL, to be honest, he just have this "extra level of ignorance" because he's a public face of Microsoft, the guy has the same level of credibility of a hooker when she says "i love you"

[pixelsword]

Hookers DON'T love me?

Then why am I paying them?

kidding. :)

[-MD-]

"@aarongreenberg Xbox 360 has a strong history of innovation. Halo, Xbox LIVE and instant-on 1080p HD lol u dumb bot u copy everything 12:52 PM Mar 12th via web in reply to aarongreenberg "

Classic! He sounds so frustrated and bitter.

[PirateThom]

I tweeted a reply

"@aarongreenberg HD games like Final Fantasy XIII? :P "

The smilie face will annoy him.

[n4gn4gn4gn4g]

I pointed out that FB and Twitter were on Wii and PS3 before Xbox ... because of a little thing called a f'ing browser. I also pointed out that PS3 has been doing instant on 1080p movies since launch...it has a thing called Blu-ray.

The guy is a f'ing tool and MS should fire his ample ass.

[The Rock Bottom]

This isn't the first time this has happened. Its amazing how the world looks when you open your eyes...

[Ninji]

Even Microsoft's employees are butthurt that they don't have any games.

[Mo0eY]

It's okay to be butt hurt. The 360 has no games.

[Dawn_Of_Ashes]

Aaron Greenber is the worst members of the exec. staff at ms. He is well known for his famous anti sony quote which is everything but professionnal.

[Ps_alm3k]

no wonder they are all alike.???

[Cold 2000]

Lol, that made me laugh ^^

[MajestieBeast]

360 owners wonder why people hate microsoft well here you have it.

[The Wood]

'SOME' will spin it into sony fanboys fault why greenburge acts like a twit. The fact that he is meant to be somebody of stature and above all this makes it even more hilarious though im not surprised. 'SOME' ms/360 fans will never see or acknowledge this yet they will cling to sonys arrogance 3+ years ago......not defending arrogance but sony had actually done something for 2 gens straight. What a twit. Defend him and you lose credibility....sorry.

[scott182]

This is one reason I am a Sony fanboy, Microsoft is run by these kinds of people. Sony has great people.

[n4gn4gn4gn4g]

to comment..bet he either doesn't or stays focused on Sony fans and no one elses.

[Quagland]

And again- MS fans saying Sony fans are the worst. Why is the reverse situation so rare? It's like they're infatuated with the Sony fanboys.

That's not to say PS3 fanboys are any better, they're the most annoying when it comes to hype and hyperbole.

[PirateThom]

There's all sorts of sayings about trees and forests that MS fanboys may not have heard.

[baum]

Are you either of them? Sorry but all fanboys whine equally. However, Xbox 360 fanboys (on N4G only) whine all day long about PS3 fanboys. I'm not going to deny that PS3 fanboys are a majority in N4G, but it's the moronic 360 fanboys that complain that keep doing the same thing (whine) instead of finding a solution: Finding a website of their own. Seriously, this was PS3 Today.com, why do they evenb other complaining? It's just too easy to make fun of them.

[kneon]

Fanboys are zealots and are inherently wrong as they will not ever consider listening to logic or reason if it goes against their beliefs.

And don't even bother disagreeing, I know I'm right :)

[jack_burt0n]

employees of these companies never post on n4g.......

/S

@thom ur ethics would get in the way :)

[PirateThom]

I'd love to get paid for trolling websites.

[Alex Kidd]

just call microsoft im sure they will be more than happy to pay you to troll ps3 articles

[Optical_Matrix]

It's people like him and balmer that give MS are bad name. Also, I'm a proud PS3 owner who will say it like it is. Go back 2/3 years ago, the web was full of 360 loyalist bashing the PS3 to no end. Even the media.
Now that PS3 fans and Sony have a reason to brag, people don't like it, and label them the worst out of pure insecurity. Grow up Cold, and Murderdolls. Fanboyism is fanboyism. And by calling a certain group of fanboys worse than others, you're worse than fanboys. You shouldn't even be allowed to play videogames.

[palaeomerus]

Everything you've written here is sad, delusional, and extremely fanboyish. Do you like games at all or do you just buy them to have an excuse to sling muck around on the internet? PS3 is a game console and a movie player not a crap magnet or a standard raised by a lunatic army on the march.

The 360 never abused you. People who like the 360 are just people and so are people who like the PS3 or people who like both. All of this "we're oppressed, so we need to act even dumber" stuff is just garbage and nonsense. Jerks are jerks. The PS3 didn't make any one act like a jerk any more than the 360 or the Wii did. That's just jerks being themselves and embarrassing everyone else.

PS3 fanboys make the Sony look bad. 360 fanboys make MS look bad. Nintendo fanboys make Nintendo look bad. Hell, fanboys and their shenanigans make gamers look bad in general.

A console is just a #@#$ing toy. Get over it. Liking one more than another is fine and so is discussing why, but getting this upset and fighting a never ending flame war over it and launching accusations about treachery and insults is completely nuts. It's the kind of crap that little kids do because they don't know any better.

[Optical_Matrix]

Why on earth are you replying to my comment reiterating what I just said. Care to read my post properly? I said Fanboyism is Fanboyism. And I put it into perspective by saying that 360 fanboys and media ripped PS3 a new one for 3 years so why now, that PS3 gamers are doing it, it's a bad thing? It's hypocritical.
Not once, did I say it effected me or that 360 "did anything to me". Stop putting words in my mouth to cause an arguement. Haven't you got anything better to do.
I love games. Enjoy them. Have a preference. It's all good. I don't know how you can question me as a gamer, when all I did was highlight double standards in this whole arguement of "X fanboy is worse than Y and Z fanboy". Someone needs to learn how to read properly. It's clear you weren't educated enough to understand simple pro's.

[palaeomerus]

You were making feeble fanboyish excuses for keeping the river of crap flowing because of what you claim 360 fanboys did to Sony in the past and that's just a bunch of crap. I read your post just fine, didn't put any words in your mouth, and you aren't fooling anybody.

[Optical_Matrix]

At what point did I use the 360 fanboys and media to justify this. I merely said it to put the whole thing into perspective. Creating a balanced arguement. If someone can't do that on N4G without being called a fanboy, then there's something wrong. So I'm gonn say it again. No, you didn't read my post right. Because out of thin air you're accusing me of being a fanboy. Go and b1tch to Cold, Murderdolls or some of the other regular fanboys about their comments, not me, who was merely being devils advocate. So many tools on this website it's unreal.

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi_]

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Micro$oft and their followers are SCUM!!! :-/ (BANG goes another Bubble!!!) ;-D

[Lookbehind]

Sir Ken you always crack me up,keep on annoying those pesky bots.

[KonohagakureFC]

what the higher ups of the industry do in their spare time.. now I know

[bjornbear]

higher ups, celebs, "saints" aren't any different than many of us, except they took a different route in life

whats sad is...I for example can afford to "troll" because I'm a nobody in the industry, and because honestly no one would really care =P

but people listen to this guy, they even look up to him (somehow)

he should be setting a greater example than this =/ but hey, he's human

[Mo0eY]

It also just proves my point: 360 fantards are the worst. When you have a fantard as a spokesperson, you KNOW that there's going to be a lot of retards a part of that company.

[robotnik]

I can't imagine Ken Kutaragi or Kazuo Hirai trashing the Wii or the flopbox... this only proves that M$ CEOs are trolls, and they probably post in N4G...

[Ps_alm3k]

Ps3 holes!??.......

[eagle21]

PS3 RULES!!!!!

And don't forget it. :)

[XabiTheHumble]

Hmmm didn't i just read an article saying that PS3 fanboys are the worst? LMFAO!! talk about exposed.

[MajestieBeast]

This is a man with class and greenberg could learn something from him.

[bjornbear]

but lets admit it, he is not the strongest spoke's person =/ he stutters a lot, and mixes his words and looks like a deer caught in headlights sometimes =P

i'll admit i couldn't do any better myself, but there are better ones out there

like this guy ---> http://microsoftdefenseforc...

something about him is fresh, and even kind of "normal" and he's quite chilled about things too =) although a bit boring, he does speak well

[Nitrowolf2]

the writer of that post from earlier, i am sorry i support some of your stuff, but to call them the worst is just BS. There is no" Worst" in fanboys, but after AG post, i have come to a conclusion that they are the worst for fueling it. That is just retarded and unprofessional.
AG you sure are a retard

[i_am_interested]

maybe instead he could make posts about the "AAA-exclusive blockbusters" that are supposed to be coming "month after month" on his console,

havent seen february's or march's

he specifically said exclusives, which BC2 doesnt fall under

[dragonelite]

Me 2 feb bc 2 march they said there would be a high profile game every month. next month SC:C btw.

Still you know ps 3 fanboys say Ms mostly has multiplat because of pc,360. And pc fanboys say microsoft forgotten their roots with pc gaming.

[Optical_Matrix]

Haven't even seen Januarys. Last AAA exclusive I saw for 360 was Forza 3 and even then the hype died down within 2 weeks. Don't even say Mass Effect 2 either guys, it's multiplat.

[N4Fanboyism]

Why are people surprised. Everyone knows sony fanboys are the worst.

[Silly gameAr]

You joined N4G just to say that? Oh yeah. You're totally greater than a Sony fanboy. Great post.

[The Wood]

shooting urself in the foot. you made an account to say that and cant see the irony or stupidity in what you typed

.....Aaron ....is that you again???;)

[Absolut_Turkey]

Did you just get PWNED during your first post? Way to represent the Xbox fanbase. ROFL!

[ironmonkey]

first the final fantasy booo's now this bad move from ms hmmm not good for business at alll!

[Another One]

Wow, look at all the N4G fanboys releasing all their nerd rage on Greenberg. Maybe he likes a good laugh? People get so bent out of shape over something so stupid.

And no, I wouldn't care if it was the other way around and a Sony employee did it. You guys are getting way too bent out of shape.

[Silly gameAr]

Where's the Joke? I like a good laugh too.

Me? I'm a fan of the console and the games, but I damn sure wouldn't buy something just because Sony was on the product.

Same with MS. Fan of console, less so the name brand.

[XxDeathDoctorxX]

he needs to go die already fat loser

[Lookbehind]

I don't wish death upon any one person,but sometimes I wish they would just disappear permanentally.

[TehSuperCell]

Hey, better than Sony going to wikipedia and saying unfavorable things about ms products.

[bjornbear]

that is totally true

http://www.v3.co.uk/vnunet/...

however despicable (i hope he got fired)...thats 1 account in the past 3 years?

MS has had...Turn 10 debacle...the NeoGaf employee troll, and now this IN UNDER 1 YEAR

do the maths...OH WAIT! YOU CAN'T!!!!=O

then I will for you =)

if we go by registered "trollings" by both companies

MS beats Sony 3:1 in trolling and being unprofessional in regards to the "console war"

so your point is moot fat drake

[TehSuperCell]

Turn10 is NOT MS.
Just like how Zipper is NOT Sony.
Neogaff is just a troll.
If we go by your logic... then-
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Oh, did you remember the guerilla marketing sony used with psp?

[bjornbear]

and zipper just trash talked

turn 10 actually tried to bribe a vote...pathetic really

and neogaf wasn't jsut a troll, he was a Microsoft employee

don't try to spin this crap with "ooh but he did it too", thats childish

just consider the article, and other recent happenings, and its undeniable

-

even though ALL companies in the world do mistakes and have idiot employee's that shouldn' t represent them

MS has problems with controlling the crap their employee's spew, almost as if they don't care how bad it makes them look, and that my fat avatar, is a sad thing =/

now stop digging your hole, its deep enough for the casket

[TehSuperCell]

"don't try to spin this crap with "ooh but he did it too", thats childish"

I found that really ironic. really... have read the "ps3 fanboys are the worst" article? im sure you did. youll read "well we have the right to make fun of xbox we had to take 3 years of pain and now we have valid arguments and blablabla"

Say now, why are we argueing over companies??? lets all just play som games, man. if the sony boys would just make an example to the xboxers by being mature gamers... no, instead, they must fire back and troll and this and that. anyways, i just found this argument silly, i will go play halo 3 now.

[cry from the sky]

all fanboys are dumb, but microsoft fanboys are pathetic.

[palaeomerus]

Yep. But then so are Sony fanboys and Nintendo fanboys.

[seifer085]

need stupid spokesman to say silly stuff, if not how will they compete?

[bjornbear]

this man is a representative of a company that many associate themselves with.

i know he isn't like ALL 360 fans, but the 360 fans that partake in the fanboy war have a clear inspiration

- ironically >>> http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

still - I'm sliightly skeptical, can any one please tell me if this COULD be, say, a fake account? I know Greenberg is a douche by PR standards, but it isn't impossible some idiot just created a fake account.

let me knw please because I don't want to rant without being 100% this IS Microsoft's famous PR.

@DeathroW22

thanks man, appreciate the authentication

- back to topic -

yeah this is why i don't buy anything from MS, i do not identify myself with idiots like this, if you thats your problem

when you buy a product, you are voting on who should be getting your money

360 owners, you voted for this a-hole, and you do every time you buy a game for your system

its a shame.

[PotNoodle]

It is 100% his account. You can look up previous tweets of his, other employees, such as major nelson has mentioned it too.

its here: http://twitter.com/aarongre...

Screenshot incase he removes it:

http://i44.tinypic.com/2u5v...

[The Wood]

up in here:)

[kanetheking]

on n4g.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

because they have better arguments and reasons to support their system. The truth can make for the biggest offense...and most convenient too. No need to lie when the proof is in my disk drive. I would hate to have Killzone, Uncharted 2 and God of War thrown in my face all the time if I only had a 360.

Really, how'd could one not feel second-class gamer if you actually believe what these fanboys are saying. And in many instance you should believe them. Then you only have two intelligent options, close your browser in indifference or buy a PS3.

Before the 360 fanboys get upset..when the PS3 had no games and N4G was 360 fanboy domain, the opposite could be said, because the 360 actually had games and a thriving online community. Blu-Ray was still questionable and the PS3 was way overpriced. Non-fanboys like myself doubted my purchase for months...until Metal Gear Solid 4.

So suck it up or buy a PS3. There's plenty of time left in this generation for either console to vindicate your purchase decision.

[Hudahudahuda]

This guy get's it. PS3 is pretty much immune to any real major criticism at this point, so any xbox only owners are stuck with petty criticisms, Opinions and damage control IE "We don't NEED blu-ray", "Sony fanboys suck" or "who cares if my 360 RROD's? Microsoft repairs it for free!" in which 360 owners receive a big LOL as a response.

And please don't kid yourselves, PC and Nintendo fans aren't the problem here, don't bring them in to this just to try and blend in. This "war" is between Xbox 360 and PS3 fanboys. Both are no better or worse than each other. Mentioning more groups does not change that.

[Consoldtobots]

yeah I pretty much had the same thought in the back of my head, we're "aholes" because we always win the arguments. If you pay attention around here you can see everyone of the 360 fanboys at some point or another start crying about PS3 "fanboys" who "have nothing better to do than be on N4G" (usually correcting or pointing OUTRIGHT lies being told by 360 trolls), this is another way for them to say "damn you why can't you let me spread my lies and bash the PS3 in peace?"

[WaR_HaWk]

well because ps3 fanboys arent retards, like greenberg, hes one of the reasons abortion should be allowed.

[palaeomerus]

Actually I've seen quite few idiotic editorials posted (and approved HERE)that were nothing but Sony fanboy rants mixed with rumors.

[PimpHandHappy]

makes me sick

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Not classy, and not Clever as an Employee of a Company.

[fear88]

He's an executive douche of public relations.

[TheXgamerLive]

all of you running here to flame as usual, and I have to admit, you all are really good flamers, ha ha.

listen, if you really dont want people to shiet all over you then stop saying the crap you say all the friggin time. I mean i love my console the Xbox 360, you love yours awesome, so STFU and go play something.

[robotnik]

Well, I have games to play, but it seems that you don't, scumbot.

[TANUKI]

@ DWeezy91

Wow, it's like your reading my mind all the time. Took the exact words I was thinking.

Bubble+

[00]

so much drama you cold make a TV show out of it, you people get to bent out of shape over the littlest thing. I will say that I do not like Aaron Greenberg.

[jack_burt0n]

At least bobby kotick comes to this site and posts in his own articles. Greenberg needs to tweet his trolling escapades lol.

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

statements from corporate #&^*'s like this is the last thing we need.C'mon people...wake up and don't fall for the bull!%$#.

[HolaTarola]

With people like this Greeturd and Ballmer how the hell do you want a good product come out from Microsoft? The company is run by monkeys really. I'm sorry for their customers.

[Consoldtobots]

I agree that MS is run by idiots, I mean MY GOD these people have more money than some major banks and the 360 is all they could come up with?

Where's the CPU/GPU built to their "high programming specs"?,

Where's the mandatory HDDs from a company that made it's money in the PC world where those things are in EVERY box?

Why tack on an HD-DVD drive as an afterthought and not incorporate it into your game model?

It's not like they couldn't afford to do any of this? so what gives?

instead we get a gimped console and massive media attack on the competitor as a display of what a great console maker MS is. These people are a sad joke.

[davekaos]

STFU with your dumb ass coments before i slap them big old rubber lips off your face!

[Godmars290]

Since all the really bad 360 fanboys doing it as a career, not a hobby.

[hankmoody]

So, Greenberg retweets an article on N4G and he's fanning the flames of the ridiculous console war? Whatever. If anyone bothered to read the article he retweeted, it was a well written op-ed piece on rampant Sony fanboyism.

[swice]

PERIOD.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

The console wars only exist in the Fanboys.

[swice]

Which is why they must die. However I am not a killer or a fanboy. Merely an older gamer with concerns. I agree with you, sir

[mcgrawgamer]

greenburg isn't the only MS troll he's just the only one the general gaming public know about. I've said it before and I'll say it again any gamer who thinks MSFT isn't petty enough to weed through the interwebs to see what gamers are saying AND take it seriously is fooling themselves.

FYI this is also the reason why I'm not going to get Alan Wake on my PC, for all those who constantly scream they'll get 'x' game on the PC instead of the 360. You only make it tough for those of us with ps3's who actually do game on pc for more than farmville and wow.

stay thirsty my friends...

[LiquifiedArt]

...Xbox fanboys started teh HEAVY war before PS3 even launched. Fuel was added to the fire at the 600$ price point. And then it contined....

I was here b4 the ps3 launched, n4g was a sesspool of Xbox fans who destroyed ps3 fans on a daily basis, just because they were excited about the PS3 launch.

If a ps3 fan wants to jump on the back of an xbox fan, i say, KUDOS! Keep up the good work. Fight the war of unfair pricing strategies (pay to play gaming) and hardware with known faults (RROD). And Sub HD-Gaming, DVD gaming. As far as i'm concerened XBOX brought nothing beneficial to gaming. Now we have people obsessed with playing ONline shooters and a disregard for anything Single player that isn't hyped by the Microsoft Advertising campaign.

yes i'm a sony fan, been gaming since 1985 and I know sony buying studios and SUPPORTING creative thinking and M$ charging for online gaming, Losing studios and paying for short-term 3rd party exclusivity are 2 very different mind sets. Sony actually WANTS better games. That is where my money will go. I just hope They don't get pressured by Microsoft to become MORE LIKE MICROSOFT. (which i feel may happen) In that case, I would be very dissapointed.

~Liquid

[jack_burt0n]

bubs>up

[XabiTheHumble]

If gaming was a church i would want you to be the pastor lol epic rant bubs

[MajestieBeast]

When i see Greenberg he just reminds me of this youtube vid.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

[PotNoodle]

Testing the power of n4g, kind of got out of hand. But my results were fantastic!

[unworthyBOZO]

Very powerful indeed

[josh14399]

hmmm the next fanboy war has started this time its fanboys of fanboys. i cant believe there are people on here sticking up for 360 and ps3 fanboys when they are all just as bad as each other.

[MyLightKilzTractors]

bots and greenburg only talk crap abouy sony because the know M$ doesnt have anything good to talk about.
they should be talking about all the great games they have ... oh wait

[HypermysticsonicHMSX]

1.Alan Wake...
2.RROD
3.E-74
4.Fusion Frenzy 2(the absolute worst 360 exclusive EVER!)
5.Steve Ballmer's Trouser Snake:THE GAME
6.1 Year Exclusivity for 50 million!!!

They sure have some great games to play....

[xXSilentXx]

totaly agree with those points!

[zoks310]

Keep killing potential patrons.

[Hitman0769]

LoL

[NotSoSilentBob]

As usual MS is more worried about Sony then anything else

[nygamer28]

you guys are fvcking dumbasses....its a fake account

[Varodor]

Aaron please, this will not help you

[NinjaSp33d]

speaking the truth

[Varodor]

Microsoft love they fans)

[awesomeperson]

M$ pissed they can't buy Sony's first party studios :)

[Paradise Lost]

Microsoft are desperate they try to lie to their customers constantly.Bribe them to pay for an online service.

Sony will take the cake this gen...easily.

[xer0]

Good article.

[tudors]

but what did he actually say? all I see is a screen dump with very little info.

[Varodor]

hint: tray click on the link

[Karum]

And also way out of line here, a pathetic excuse for a "professional".

This is exactly why people hate on Greenberg so much and this particular move from Greenberg pretty much justifies all of the negativity thrown his way whether it be from some raving fanboy or someone very rational.

The man does himself absolutely no favours and I find it extremely laughable that anyone in their right mind tries to defend this imbecile.

Aaron Greenberg: The worst fanboy of them all.

[W-k]

LMAO yeah like Xbox fanboy are any better both fanboys are just as bad but i find it really stupid how some one can say that one fanboy is worse then the outher and i really think most xbox fans bring it upon them self they are allways provoking the Ps3 fans and they dont like it when sony fans fight back, as mostly a Sony gamer i have taken alot of BS from xbox fans from Day 1!! and still do!! if im in a store buying a ps3 game i get alot of pressure to buy a xbox game or to pre-order a game for a system i don't have last time i pre- ordered a game the guy at EB was trying to make me pre- order ME2 (and i soo would if it was on ps3 i LOVE Biowares games,Dragon Age FTW) i told him countless times i don't have a 360, it really pissed me off but i tryed to be nice about it but the things us sony only gamers go through can be maddening, i never wanted to be in this retarded console war but its so hard not to when you get treated like this Soo Yeah im glad sony fanboys piss you off and get under your skin not that im saying its ok but ONLY a complete IDIOT would say one is worse then the outher i pray for the day we can all have an intelligent conversation about game and consoles with out our bias towards a certain system, but that day is long gone or vary far away from now.

[no_more_trolling]

he is right
but the same goes for MS fanboys too

you guys are disgusting. you might not know but you guys actually ruin gaming for a lot of people out there, not me tho, ive been gaming since atari days and im just 25, and this is the worst it has been.

some of you just need something fulfilling in your empty lives thats all

if you disagree, then the truth hurts, sorry.

[N1X CAFE]

its just a bit banter but you love it , but don't forget its just free advertising lol

[PirateThom]

It's weird how the Xbox division has so many slimey characters. Greenberg and Mattrick especially, Greenberg is annoying, Mattrick genuinely creeps me out.

Especially when Steve Ballmer strikes me as a guy who genuinely enjoys what he does and, if it's the expense of a product, it's always in an amusing way and NEVER at the expense of fans of the product.

Just an observation, Microsoft Entertainment Division is borderline intolerable.

[dredgewalker]

I wouldn't be surprised if he was Bungie. I don't mind the fanboys because at least they try to make a point on why they think they love their systems but a troll is simply something that i really hate.

[bigjclassic]

How do you think that they have been around so long now? They depend on their "loyalist" to stay alive, no matter how many people will say that 360 is doing great etc.

[HIGGINZOB]

Personally I don't think Greenberg has done anything wrong. Though I do think it is ridiculously stupid to retweet a pro Microsoft flamebait article, especially if you work for Microsoft...silly Greenberg.

[rawd]

hahaha fvcking fat loser

[Stallard84]

I think its funny that he is just trying to cover his ass now saying that he did it ON purpose to SEE how everyone would flip out. I'm not buying it, you made a comment you shouldn't of made and now everyone see's that you are not really representing your employer very well. Every person is entitled to their own opinions but when your in a position slandering the competitors is not something someone with ANY character should do. . . bad business . . .

[Apocalyptica]

Fail on so many levels >.<

[GeoramA]

Such "professionals" over there in Redmond.

[GT FLYINGDOG]

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol $ony fan's do not got it! xbox 2 and $ony 3. wii (1) "by the time $ony got 2" a new xbox is out.. ans $ony will be old "sucio" flopbox. lolololol

[Bazzieking]

Hypocritical?

[fatstarr]

excellent trolling lol it sure has got communities riled up.

[glennc]

what else can he do? he is right. it is a huge problem that needs identifying.

n4g is FAILING big time. any article on any subject is mauled by PS3 fanboys. any other fanboy gets 15, 20, 50 disagrees yet every PS3 fanboy gets the same in agrees. what other proof is needed??? i know this is basically being read by angry PS3 fanboys but i don't really give a sh!t, it is ruining the website.

all fanboys are blind idiots but PS3 ones are just out of control

you can't act like animals and then have a whinge when called out on it. grow up

reading sites like n4g just confirms that 80% of the world are idiots