CC: Nintendo of America President Reggie Fils-Aime has said that every competitor of the platform giant needs to be worried about what's on the way from them.
Wow Ninty feeling really high and mighty since the Move. Wonder what Sony and MS will have to copy next lol.
But saying stuff like this makes them look scared. Nintendo is sitting on mountains of Yens, and Move and Natal are likely not coming close to what Wii Motion has done in terms of success. I'm sure both Natal and Move will be successful, but they aren't going to touch the Wii. Maybe in monthly sales Nintendo needs to be concerned but in such short years the Wii has already been such a huge success for Nintendo that they are pretty much coasting through this generation. I'm happy somebody is trying to shake their foundations. Competition from Sony and MS is great but maybe Nintendo can finally get off snooze control and do something too.
"Our competitors need to be worried... ...because we're about to announce our next console/handheld!" Nintendo have been awfully quiet these last couple years. There's bound to be something huge behind close doors. Or is this another one of those overhyped rumors?
"Our Competitors Need To Be Worried" Barbie and Action man just s**t a brick....
I would be far more worried about maintaining a good sales rate. February saw the Wii fall considerably in y/y growth and saw a HUGE software sales decline. With MS and Sony coming into Nintendo's market it will bring about direct comparisons between all systems equally. And when consumers start looking at all this they will see that PS3 and 360 can do what Wii can do. However Wii cannot play DVDs, Blu-Ray, PS3/360 core exclusives nor does it have an integrated online community. Because both MS and Sony offer more to core and casual experiences, they will of course divert potential sales and convert existing Wii owners. This is a great strategy for both MS and Sony because it levels the entire playing field and hence will slow down the sales rate of the Wii by making consumers consider ALL OPTIONS. Consumers will not care about who came first to motion control. Much like how consumers did not care that WinMo/Palm devices were on the market before the Iphone. They will look at what appeals to them more and how it will benefit them. In a consumer world, copying is not a concern. What is a concern is its ease of use, effectiveness, and overall usefulness. And that is where both MS and Sony will take an advantage. By forcing consumers to compare and contrast all systems.
I really don't think Ninty is scared.
Why do you think Nintendo isn't scared? EDIT: I love how I got a disagree for asking iFLOWLIKEWATER why Nintendo is not scared. : /
I don't think they're scared because they seem to be setting the trend that others follow. I'm thinking their mentality is "Whatever we do, and if we're successful, others will imitate."
@fear why wouldn't consumers see the hd systems as over priced burdens? Most people have blu Ray players that matches their set up. People are buying quailty hd tvs now also so sd digital content looks better. On top of that most people are waiting for their old tv to die. DVDs cuaght on because most people had tvs that could display way more detail than VHS could handle so the upgrade wasn't painful. Yet hd and all the nickle and diming is hard for most to swallow. They can get wii games for $20 less almost also. On top of this nintendo owns most of the hits. So yeah they stole the shell or storing wheel of the off road vichecl known as the wii yet they don't have the engine and most people that really like the wii have any where from 10-40 games with more coming. Their motion controllers will only sell to current hd owners. Every one has made up their minds if they want motion control and if they do they have a wii if they don't then what game is going sawy their own fan base to adopt? And how the helllll do you resel a system to wii owners? On top of this hd consoles don't stand a chance because it doesn't have an over saturation of bloody games unlike the hd consoles. What are the hd guys going to make bucket of blood and gibs3 where you just try to make the screen as gross as possible. On top of this where are the games that give nintendos 20-10 million sellers some competition? Oh that's right hd gamers don't like those games right. You guys are holding your own consoles hostage which is sad.
Nintendo has absolutely nothing to worry about. When PS3 goes $199, then they will just drop price again. Natal and Move will only HELP Nintendo sales because it makes motion controls that more popular and relevant. And most families will still choose Nintendo when they buy. Nintendo releasing Mario, Zelda, and Metroid in one year is enough to keep them ahead of the pack at least this year. :)
I mean look at Greenberg. Software revenue falling, sales for 2009 year over year of the 360 down, PS3 breathing down their necks after beating them in worldwide sales ever since the PS3 launched worldwide, millions still bleeding for warranty issues and gambling the 360's future on motion control and yet he still comes forward and states "Hey! Feb for the month in the US was great! Isn't that swell?" I mean, these guys can't really come out and say if they're concerned or not. Gotta put on the brave PR face at all times. Everyone knew the Dreamcast was in serious trouble, but Sega kept a brave PR face right to the end.
With the games they have coming out they have no reason to worry.
I hope Nintendo's next console is better than the Wii. I regret buying that thing, I honestly believe the Gamecube was more powerful than the Wii.
So will Nintendo finally release a next gen console that is capable of HD gaming? You know a console that can compete with the 360 and the PS3. Oh how I wish Natal and Move fail to oblivion, because if this fvcking motion controller becomes mainstream i might quit gaming!
his guy is scared now that MS and Sony are getting in to the casuals market and their sales are going down now i mean Nintendo got shot down by Sony in the hardcore market back in the days i wont be surprised if Sony or MS shot down Sony in the casuals market too
See Reggie says this and Greenburg says Sonys fanboys are worse than 360 fanboys honestly I say who is doing their job better?
I don't know what else they can do other than what we've all suggested: HD, 3D, No controller etc...
The vitality sensor thing looks interesting. Maybe Nintendo will save it for next-gen?
Didn't he say that the only way they'll look at the next console is when a developer says they can't do something on the Wii? Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I'm sure one developer would have said that they were disappointed that they couldn't create HD games...
I think he was referring to Miyamoto. I don't see Nintendo releasing a new system anytime soon since the Wii is still selling very well.
lol. In terms of quality, i dont think MS and Sony have anything to fear. But in terms of sales and the possibility of being overshadowed by the current leader of motion gaming, Wii, could put a damper on the new controllers. But time will tell.
The problem for Ninty is this - they don't like to make losses on their consoles (who would?). On the other hand, MS and Sony have business models that sell the console at a loss in order to recoup the costs and gain profit through software, addons and subscriptions. Since that path isn't one Ninty take, the cost of a HD console, even now, is probably more than their target user base can stand. So how can they compete? Either they try and compete in the hardware power market, or they don't and strike out in some other different but affordable direction. I can imagine that their HD support would be something very restricted - they could, relatively cheaply, go the 360 route and just pretend at HD by including upscaling hardware. That shouldn't increase prices too much... Otherwise they need to find and implement something which is cheap and where people will accept low power hardware a'la the Wii controls. The other big question is who will buy the thing? Ninty need to find a way to get all those casual game consumers they've now got, to want to to try something more than the existing Wii.... What can they do - they've already done motion gaming. The casual market is by definition, casual - no good trying to get them onto hardcore games because they'll either not be interested or jump to PS3. It's a problem for Ninty really - big success with Wii means they're like a donkey with a yo-yo! They've got a great market but how do they move forward? r.
How do they move forward really you don't know how? There is a reason why they have so many 10-20 million sellers. They keep making fun games. Also by the time they do go hd the 4th version of the ipad will be out and system on a chip set ups will lower the 3d tech as fans shrink the dies or CPU cores. That is what nintendo is waiting on. I mean really ati newsest cards are around 300 2-4 years from now it's going to be dirt cheap. Also their are so many old school ideas that could use motion plus and or the balance board. Hey but if you where not around then I'm sure your drawing a blank. Right now hd gaming is the only one limited thanks to their fanbase. Without highend graphics and fps what does hd offer? No wait what will you guys support with sales over 10Million that is not a fps? The hd market is loosing steam after 2010 what is next?
Could it be a price cut?
at least it will be a part of anything BIG.
Hahahahha what a JOKE Reggie is u need to be worried Reggie when Natal comes out it's gonna surpass we Sales day 1.
wow? really? Do u really expect to surpass 40mil ++ benchmark in one day? I thought atleast the people in Open Zone would have some sense of reality.
Hmm... I've done the math and it appears your an idiot. I've researched in simple chemical formation and discovered they are far more likeable than you'll ever be. May your fanboyism serve you well. Isn't it a real shame as of yet I've yet to see Natal work online... and according TO MICROSOFT press statements it won't work online and it'll take away even more power from the 360. So basically Natal probably won't with XBL... which need I remind you is the main selling feature of the 360.
Fail = you Gr8 1
secondly if you dont think that nintendo is int he best postition out of the bunch to wipe the industry your nuts. really if nintendo drops a new hd console that is innovative and not just a wii hd and is a multimedia blu-ray player every console is in trouble. people flock to new systems right, and if they can match what the ps3 and 360 do online then why own a xbox when all the 3rd party games will come on your new nintendo system. and are you gonna not but games that are running better look better and offer you more, only reason why you wouldnt would be because of some fanboy crap. nintendo isnt just in the lead they are runing the show.
Confirmed:GT5 and Halo 4 coming to the Wii
Just stupid BS PR like Arron Greenburg. The way I see it is the only thing that made the Wii unique is no longer unique and the other two consoles are superior with better games. Shovelware aside, Nintendo's only real good games are 1st party and they are few and far between.
I see where people get the term ignorant from. Some things are right under your nose but you don't want to believe it because you don't like it. This is the same nintendo that beat pc gaming for many years not because of tech because of game play. Nintendo dropped the ball on hide and seek Mario but are getting back to their roots with the wii. What makes nintendo unque is they actualy have games the masses want this gen. It is almost like the n64 was their death and the wii was them reiventing themselves while the gc was a testing ground. This really may be the death knell if the hd guys are not careful. They really don't seem like they have a plan any more.
as long as sony and MS are making money, they don't need to be worried about anything. Nintendo on the other hand should be worried about sullying their name by catering more and more to the casual crowed. Remember it's the hardcore that bought the wii first, and it was the hardcore who introduced it to the casual crowd.
Sullying their name really. Nintendo almost means fun and game play. Ms means pc. Sony means HDTV and movies. I think people are going to choose fun every time. Yet if you want to believe the hardcore fariy tales then go ahead. Lots of gamers like your self will be leaving the industry to to staggnation and fans shakling down their pedistal gracing console of choice. Man you guys are creating a catch 22 and your going to back Sony and ms into a corner. It's coming and your not going to like it. I wonder what the excuse is going to be when these things don't sell and if they do wouldn't that only give nintendo a reason to take that market back with a new console. These guys should have a long talk with sega. Sony got big by not being like nintendo right? Think about that for a moment.
"These guys should have a long talk with sega. Sony got big by not being like nintendo right? Think about that for a moment. " Good post. I still remember those old adds....sega does what nintendont lol How true
For Sony and MS it's win win. No matter what they're still selling quite alot of consoles. And with every Natal/Move sold that's potentially one less Wii user. Nintendo can't do anything to slow the PS3/360 sales, but Sony and MS can certainly slow Wii sales.
Haha, Sony is getting owned by Nintendo PR.
Haha, nobody cares. PR is always skewed, and nobody takes it seriously.
The Wii is for kids. I'm a Nintendo fans since NES, SNES, N64. I love Zelda and Marios but I wouldn't buy the Wii for $50. Wii fans stop bragging bout sales, last gen kid console have nothing to brag about in an HD era.
" Wii fans stop bragging bout sales, last gen kid console have nothing to brag about in an HD era." Your feelings are hurt, come here and let me hug you.
Why be worried lol ? its empty threats they know how much this is going effect the wii's sales the only reason people buy wii's was becuase the motion controller. the fact is nintendo can anything they want sony will just do ten times better.
Nintendo will make those pitiful products look embarrassing when they unveil whatever new technology they have up their sleeve. Its always the same story- Nintendo innovate, the others imitate. The most embarrassing thing is that the Wii is still superior to MOVE and Natal as it is now, not even taking into account wii motion plus. I mean, think about it, its obvious wii Zelda will be Wii motion plus compatible, what could MOVE or Natal possibly offer that is more substantial than that? Nothing.
The Wiimote is connected to the Nunchuk by a wire...That alone makes it worse than Move for me.
If you want to keep buying a new nintendo console every 5 years and a new handheld every year, then be my guest. For those that are mature and game as a hobby, will be more satisfied with a PS3 or 360. I'm a Sony fan, but i'd much rather a 360 over a wii for my gaming fix. Maybe you fit into the soccer mum / child category of gaming. No offence.
You talk about being mature and then start stereotyping people. Interesting.
Nintendo use stereotyping to sell their console. As do Microsoft and Sony. Its a part of life, and not always about putting people down. Though in saying that, my comment was a bit rude. Sorry, PCZ.
Argh, just fyi... the wii, compared to all the other consoles, sucks.
Well with Super Mario Galaxy and the New Zelda game I'm pretty sure some publishers are worried, but Sony and Microsoft have their own flagship games coming out this year.
oooooh I`m shiverin`!
so what's next Hd 3D no controller rechargable batteries actual hardcore games I think by the way he is speaking he will give away free consoles and games the only revolution they can do is ( control the game with your mind ) like a mind reading helmet or something like that
How will sony and Microsoft sell those products to their 'hardcore' consumers? I thought ps3 and 360 users dont care about 'childish waggle' games. If that is so, then they wont sell. 'Nintendo own the casual market' remember, so if that is so then why would all the 'grannies, grampa's, mummies,and children' all of a sudden splash out hundreds of pounds/dollars/yen on ps3/360. Its not going to happen. 'Waggle is for casual friendly morons' remember, so how will the technology heavy 360/ps3 be accessible to those 'waggle idiots' ? You morons have been digging such a deep grave for yourselves over the last few years slating the wii, now you are trying to claim the 'waggle' on your consoles are somehow relevant and will be successful. No! Natal and MOVE will both fail miserably. The journalists are already slating them for lag and inferior to wii performance.
Nintendo have enough money to probably announce two different home consoles side by side for casuals and for core gamers since the Wii and DS have sold so brilliantly. I admit, they can make a very easy and impressive recovery to get the core gamers again very easily, if they choose to.
That's what i keep telling my friends. I would buy a console from Nintendo if it had a proper Pad, or at least the option on every game. I don't dislike Nintendo, I dislike the Wiimote. I still completed Zelda TP, but I enjoyed it alot more on the GC than the Wii.
The Wiimote is fine. It's just the way the majority of developers choose to use it and the paradigm shift that happened to cause shovelware and cheap development of games that get sales, that doen't honestly deserve it. I have no problem with Wii Sports, Wii Fit etc. That's Nintendo, now what I hate is everyone doing EXACTLY the same, but cheaper or the illusion of 'games', just because you jump up and down and wave in order to make something happen on screen, giving less choice as an owner of the console. Titles I LOVE on my Wii are No More Heroes, Geometry Wars Galaxies, Madworld, Blastworks. I'd also like to get hold of a couple of platformers and most of the Nintendo first party games like Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Mario Galaxy, Wario; Shake it and Super New Mario Bros, but they never seem to go down in price. As I've said with motion gaming, it's a great idea. IF done the right way. So far, they've found A WAY, but unfortunately it doesn't involve us; the gamers. The more all the console makers, Nintendo, Sony and MS do that, the more the gaming industry will change and ignore us, it can hopefully only last so long. On the other hand, I play a game to relax, not EVERY game should tire me out for what would be easier to do a button press.
See, this is why we need the option for motion control or a proper pad. Because I really don't like motion controls, and i'm not alone. But then there's you, and alot of others who like both, and it wouldn't be fair to just ignore you all. So i really do think 1 isn't enough, it has to have both imo.
"That's what i keep telling my friends. I would buy a console from Nintendo if it had a proper Pad, or at least the option on every game." Ahh most of the AAA have FOUR options. 1. Wii remote - nunchuk 2. Classic controller (snes style) 3. Gamecube controller. 4. Wii remote on the side (nes style). What is it with you people>>? Do u bag a product out without even knowing anything about the product. INSANE. Tatsunoko vs capcom - classic controller Mario Kart Wii - all 4 options Super Smash bros - all 4 options Mario Bros Wii - remote (nes style) Just to name a very few! The list does go on and on.
AAA doesn't automatically mean i'll like it...I don't buy games based off reviews, or sales. For me to buy a Wii, it HAS to have both options on EVERY game. "AAA" or not.
"AAA doesn't automatically mean i'll like it...I don't buy games based off reviews, or sales. For me to buy a Wii, it HAS to have both options on EVERY game. "AAA" or not." Well many of the games i own give you more than one option (would you consider punch out AAA??...just curious). However games such as the metroid prime series do not have any different options. Most likely because using a pad in that game would be a step back, and since i own both (GC/wii) i can say it would be a huge step back. Maybe if you did try some of the AAA games you might find you would like the motion controls more in the first place. On the flip side im sure when games such as NBA Jam come out you should find it to support many control options. Basically what im saying is that ALOT of the better games on the wii do support more than just "waggle"
Not the hardcore crowd, that's for sure.
Nintendo's been talking a lot recently, ever since Move was announced
theres no reason to talk s... sales wise they won allready.as much as i love my ps3 thear is no ketchup to nintendo
^^ Why would you want to put ketchup on a Nintendo console?
These "impending doom" comments are unscessary. Sure no one can doubt that Nintendo has carried the way forward this generation with their surprisingly consistent sales numbers. But they should not forget that it was because Sony so dominated them for 2 generations that forced them to go in a "unique" direction with the WII. They are on top now, sales wise, but that doesnot mean it will last forever.
Thats all i have to say on whatever else nintendo has up its sleeve. Its a simple meh. They failed on providing a library of good quality games. There are a few gems in a sea of shovelware. Whatever else peripheral, device, or gimmick they plan on coming out with will make no difference that good games on the wii are way too far in between. The only reason i have one anymore is because of the new zelda and mario. Perhaps maybe Nintendo has listened that gamers buy games not casuals and have a decent lineup to counter the amazing games coming out for the ps3 and xbox360 but i doubt it.
the biggest pile of wank in gaming history,...end.
They better worry for the wii vitality sensor. :p
ooohhhh....thats some fightin talk, right there. sounds like they got new hardware to show if you ask me.
Stop being a tool man,it's disgusting =) .. -- As for Reggie,man I love this guy,he knows how to let the Competition flowing! That's something I respect about him,and he even said that he doesn't think that "Move" nor "Natal" are copies,he just says that our competitors have finally noticed that motion controlling is more likely the future of video gaming and has a very large market! I wish Nintendo all the best,and having a competition between those big companies means we're going to have the best of each! Gamers FTW Fanboys FTL