Digital Foundry writes:
"It's been less than 24 hours since I attended the PlayStation Move reveal event at GDC, and I'm gathered in a small conference room of game-makers and press for Sony's presentation to developers.
I'm looking for answers. Yesterday's event established release date, ballpark pricing and bundling options. I got to play a bunch of games too, but many of them were so early in development that accurately gauging the potential of the controller was a tough call. "
Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.
Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.
I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻♂️
They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.
The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games
I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.
I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".
It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...
@SPEAK
The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??
I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.
"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"
Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.
Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.
I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.
Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.
Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?
I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR
@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.
Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.
It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.
''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''
No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.
''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''
Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.
I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.
"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"
You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.
And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.
You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.
“You can pretend that you had a move”
I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!
Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…
Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).
I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff
@Minute Man
There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.
@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.
"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."
That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.
VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.
@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."
PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.
The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote
I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.
Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.
Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)
Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.
Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.
Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.
Replies(2)99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..
Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.
There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.
Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.
After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.
What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?
I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.
In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed
Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already
And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time
Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.
Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.
It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems
You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years
Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.
@neutral
Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.
I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.
I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.
""When you're going off screen and coming back, the sensors are good enough. The accelerometers and gyroscopes can give you positional data for a time. The problem is that they drift over time. Over short periods of time, they're great. That's why a lot of Wii games use gestures. But for long periods of time we use the camera to correct the data."
What this does mean, however, is that all Move games require calibration, a system that isn't required on the more pick-up-and-play Wii. According to the Sony team, you simply stand (or sit) in front of the camera, press a button once and that's it. But last night, calibration proved to be far more intrusive.
As I stood in line to get a go on Motion Fighter, the girl playing was having a torrid time getting her gestures recognised. Calibration was blamed and the system was reset. Playing Move Party, a ceiling spotlight appeared to be causing some recognition issues during one gameplay session, again necessitating a recalibration."
Doesn't sound overly convincing.
Oops, posted "1.6" down here by mistake.
Here is a picture for your trouble...
better get yours reserved, I know I'm going to get one, I was pretty impressed with there demo overall.
And at least it has functionality with actual games, and that could be playstation's biggest selling point.
Move is shaping up to be very promising.
I really think Sony should have avoided showing most of the games in their current state. A lot of them very in very early stages of developement and had considerable amount of lag. If the whole point and advantage of Move compared to Wii MP and Natal is its minimal lag, then why Sony had only ONE game where lag was less than Wii or Natal?