"There was a bit of confusion about our Sinclair Solutions Tester Pack file size, and I wanted to clear things up for you."
Pack size: 130KB - You got more of my $ 2K `enjoy it!
they might get a little support like adding a few new maps or something... still kinda cheesy dlc if you want to go past lvl40 or have access to da new weps you hafta pay. Makes their whole we did it ta keep the playing field level argument kinda lame eh. glad i rented this instead of buying it tho cause the onlines pretty weak with p2p and tons of lag with way too few players ta b really fun imo
I don't know which is worse, having to pay for something on the disc already, or waiting a month to play a content I should'a played on day 1. either way 2K, that's a very low move of you. Whoever is ready to fork out his $$ to pay for this rip off, you're part of the problem.
I don't know which is worse either.... On second thought, it's paying for something that I have already paid for. This is what gaming has come to companies ripping of consumers by preventing them from using content until they pay for it twice.
The stupid thing about this is that 2k could have just gone ahead and released the DLC assets to all players for free via an update, and then charged players for an unlock if they actually wanted access to the content just like Rockstar did with the South Central expansion of Midnight Club: LA. I think a lot of folks wouldn't be as upset if the content and assets weren't already on the disc. I'm not saying one is more right or less wrong than the other, but it's the idea of having content in your possession and being denied access to it that upsets a lot of folks.
I'm 100% against the idea of company's charging me extra money for content I already bought. What's next? "To see the end of the game, that'll cost you $2.49!" I love Take Two's games. I've always had an issue with how this company ran itself. Going way back to them going nearly bankrupt, replacing their new board with a board swearing they'd clean the company up and the first thing they did was give huge bonuses to themselves and the consulting company that hired them all. Now the future is nickel and diming your customers? Go **** yourself, Take Two management.
Digusting indeed! Anyone who pays for that is the part of this problem.
Sign of the times unfortunately.
I bet half of you that are complaining still own Modern Warfare 2, well news to you, they are doing the same thing! DERP!
Im waiting for someone to kick up a legal stink over this due to its frequency. I can see them at some stage having to put labels on cases such as "Some included content requires an unlocking fee" as labeling it as Downloadable Content is outright False advertising. The content is not downloadable, but is locked. In other news, F*** you and the horse you rode in on 2K. Game industry is turning to sh!t. Kinda makes me sad.
I guess not, now you hate Valve, EA, Activision, 2K, Microsoft. Who else?. I think you should all grow the **** up and stop acting like children.
lol. It's funny how that works. I think you have a pretty good reason to despise Capcom for making u pay 5$ for whats already on the disc. Same goes for 2k (i dunt know if their DLC is P2P) I dont mind paying for DLC as long as it adds new content. I dont like paying extra for what I already have.. it's like paying to unlock all the easter eggs in the game.. Doesnt make sense. With that said, I dont hate any of them. I just hate their business schemes from time to time.
It's a shame I can't take anymore of your bubbles.
Funny thing is, your acting like a butthurt 360 fanboy kid yourself. You might not be able to comprehend it, but there's a very good reason we're upset at those companies. (EA has redeemed themselves though)
that just sucks.
What a dumb excuse...These guys got nabbed with there fingers in the cookie jar...plain and simple...I thought DLC was extra content, NOT content already installed on the disc...lol...What clowns...I bought this game and I'm not impressed. First game was incredible...I think the graphics have also been downgraded...greed at its worst...
I traded it in, don't do DLC for this reason.
these are bad practices by companies. unlocking a trial after x days is different from unlocking content thats already on the disc. Thats ridiculous, i hope i never purchase a game with those conditions.
IMO if its on the disc it shouldn't have to be unlocked it should be playable, or at least free to unlock. It's not right having game content on the disc you buy but can not play. ITS JUST WRONG.
I dunno if its wrong on a legal level but as a consumer it certainly feels wrong. This kind of crap needs to stop. Give the person everything on the disc they paid for. Just the fact it's so shady where dev's don't talk about it and it's almost an admission of guilt here when 2K does.. It's obvious they know it's a shady practice.
I think Im gonna sue 2K, a first year law student should be able to slam dunk this one. I payed for the game disc, Im entitled to it's contents. PERIOD, end of story. Wanna keep it off the disc and offer it as DLC, that's completely your perogative and good luck with that.
"This is a great game we have here, before we put it on store shelves, lets take something out, and then later sell it for more money as an add-on! Great freaking idea!"
it's not even that. More like "This is a great game we have here! Let's put a couple of lines of code in to lock out some content, so they have to pay us to use it!"
yeah, that's kinda what I meant to say.
Another reason not to buy some multiplatform games..
Another reason why to buy Multiplatforms on PC. DLC for free and legally.
I don't know if there is some contradiction in his words but if anyone can clarify, it would be greatly appreciated. He said: " The way our engine and game structure works is that people need to have the same content for people to play together..." Okay, my interpretation is that everyone has to have the same content to play. (i.e., playing the same map). Simple enough. "For this content, creating the DLC package the way we did allowed for us to not split the player base. So whether you purchase the new content or not, you can still play with your friends." Okay...so you everyone don't have to have the same content? I'm sorry if it seems stupid and I'm not trying to clutter the comment section with useless crap. Just a bit of a clarification because as I read it, it's a bit of a contradiction. Thanks
Isn't it illegal to make someone pay twice for something. Technically you paid for everything that was on that disk, including the dlc that was tucked away.
Didn't you know MW2 did the same thing. http://forums.n4g.com/tm.as...
No they didn't. Those modes are still not officially in the game, and are also most certainly NOT complete, if you've played them. They're missing images etc. No doubt something left over which may be added in a patch, however I strongly doubt they'll release them in any kind of DLC. The only packs confirmed are 2 Map Packs, and with the recent IW vs Acti happenings I can't see any more DLC appearing.
bullcrap excuse don't work, just ask ubisoft.
Costs about $40. Sweetest deal ever if you ask me! -End statement
All the costumes and level packs in LBP are mandatory updates that you download when entering the game. Then to access the stuff you have to go buy a key to unlock it. They have to do this. Same with Bioshock. You either already have it on the disc, or, do a mandatory update with the items in the update. You have to because your game won't understand one of the new Bioshock DLCs if its not in your registry, e.g (someone has the new sailor skin in a deathmatch, and you don't have the skin on your disc/update, then your game won't recognise the skin). But I know it still doens't sound right, but devs all do it, through either a update or just being on the disc from the start.
"All the costumes and level packs in LBP are mandatory updates that you download when entering the game. Then to access the stuff you have to go buy a key to unlock it." dude what're you talking about?? you clearly haven't play LBP for you to say that and you are clearly clueless about these DLC things!
I think he is kinda right with LBP. Take the MGS pack, and the Pirates of the Carribean (I nearly cried at the awesome) pack. You had to download the patch first, so that the packs would work. I dont know if we were downloading the content, or simply new rules added to the engine. However the difference is, NONE of the DLC for little Big Planet was on the disc when I brought it over a year ago. Even if when we do get all the info needed for the packs when we download the free patch, its simply to allow us to play other peoples creations for free. I thinks thats a far cry from what 2k are doing here, which as someone said above is more like "We have a good game, lets add a few lines of code so they have to pay us extra to play parts of it".
I don't see how LBP is even in the same league. This is just a shot in the dark, but maybe all the LBP DLC is needed to play other people's community levels. For example, if I didn't have the POTC pack on my HD and tried to play a community level with water in, it might not work as well. If it's on your HD, even if you haven't unlcoked it to build your own stuff, you can still play other people's creations. Like I said, pure guess work on my part. But as others have stated, all the LBP content has come later on and was NOT included on the disc as an unlockable.
disk= floppy disk, hdd disc= cd's,dvd's blurays Capiche?
you'll be able to find some program or code to crack it sooner or later anyway. And I feel no qualm for cracking to get contents that are already on the disc I paid for. If I have already paid for it, then I should phucking own it.
You don't post much anymore, but I agree with you to the fullest extent possible.
Interesting. On one hand that is convenient, on the other hand it might make people feel burnt, even if it was finished maybe it should have remained a downloadable so it didn't seem like a trick?
I'm guessing it was just file/index info for muliplayer, made doing DLC a bit easier.
and this is why Piracy Lives.... We are paying for something we already paid for..
another example how xbox ruined gaming.
You do know this DLC in disc is also on the PS3 version right? No, religious fanboys like you are the ones ruining gaming.
the whole dlc probably would only fit on the blu ray, so if xbox people have to pay for the dlc they had to make the ps3 people pay for it too....but you cant see that cuz u blinded by microsoft
Can we all come together as gamers and file a class action suit against these a$$holes I'm tired of these [email protected] keys on these [email protected] discs!
Its a trend which came with consoles this generation. Console gamers need to stop supporting this as a community. Pc gamers need to play their part too. If we stop paying for Dlcs, that may make a difference on the other hand if we keep it up its going to become common for every other game.
DONT PAY FOR THE DLC. SIMPLE AS THAT.
If Bioshock 2 wasn't so darn good I would be a little more upset. But the game is stellar through and through.
Its bad enough we have to pay 60 bucks for a game now there pulling this crap.
wtf is this i dont even facepalm we as gamers shall not condone this wait till i get out of law school and become the greatest attorney that ever lived i will see if i can sue for the greater part of gaming kind of courese if i become the greatest lawyer that eve lived ill probably have enough money to not care
Anyone who pays for this dlc should be disowned by the gaming community.
Just don't support dlc like this, also buy the game used. If we keep buying used games developers will start put in a code for a free download instead of hargin for the first. BBC2 did it.
I sure hope someone can sue over this. I don't mind DLC as long as it is clearly added content. I do not like DLC which has been removed to be sold as DLC as AC2 seemed to be or locked on the disk until you pay to unlock it.
lmao lame excuse. plenty of other companies manage it fine. i mean if u played cod4 for example with ur friends and some1 in the party didn't have the dlc, it just wouldn't matchmake u into a game playing a dlc map...
I would never pay for this DLC. Bioshock 2 was boring anyways.
Just think about what would have happened if Microsoft would went with HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. Could you imagine what Type of sh*t they could "hide" on the disc. Hell It makes me wonder about some of the "dlc" I have purchased for the Ps3 over the years. With all the Blu-Ray space I just know that I have been ripped off because the stuff was already on the disc when I bought it.. It wouldn't be too hard for them to say the that the file is a certain size to throw you off!!!
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