Max Beland, Creative Director of Splinter Cell Conviction, told GamerZines that his new game will "redefine what stealth is" in an exclusive interview with GamerZines.
I hope they pull it off... but as usual the expected overzealous comments begin.
I have faith, though. Chaos Theory is awesome! One of the best games I've ever played.
It still won't be as epic as any MGS game.
I honestly wouldn't even consider MGS4 much of a stealth game, and instead more of an action game. The majority of it's good moments consisted of major action sequences and large fights. There was only like... 2 instances where I actually sneaked around.
And who's fault is that, Arnon? There is a patch for sneaking through most of the game, just as there is a patch for getting caught sneaking through most of the game. I'm fairly sure it is up to the player how stealthy they want to be.
Redefining stealth? Though this is clearly no longer a "stealth" game. Yeah, you hide in shadows, but so did manhunt. It looks like that same "get in the shadows and you're safe" concept, and I don't like that. Give me back my old slow paced SC games o_o... EDIT: Also, you can't get more stealth than the Thief series.. that game was boss. Yes I said that.. lol.
mgs4 isnt a stealth game, i just recently bought it and have been playig it. the game is just downright broken, i crawl around stealth mode then i go to a diffrent patch of dirt every 2 feet then my camo goes to 55% where instantly anyone looking in my direction will be alerted so then i kill them and run allllll the way back to the start of the map and hide in a corner.. after waiting fo 20 seconds THE GUARDS RUN ALL THE WAY OVER TO WHERE I AM AND FIND ME!so then my only option is to kill all 5 of them which is easily done even on the hardest mode then since everyones dead im just running around cause theres no more soldiers on the map. this is why the game is broken,this is why whenever im detected i reload the game save.
It's not the fact that there's an emblem for sneaking around, it's the fact that... there's no incentive to except for that emblem at the end of the game. Yeah, it works, but again, there were only like two places I actually felt compelled to try and sneak. Other than that, if I was caught, I'd just mow down everyone.
Oh so the game is still stealth? From the videos i have seen looked more like a third person shooter to me
"Splinter Cell Conviction is out on Xbox 360 in April." Also coming out on PC, some are omitting that little detail...
But that is your gaming personality, bro. I got the sneaking patch the first time through the game. Only later did I even realize there was a patch for Rambo play. Having the option to be Snake or Rambo is a good thing.
I'm sorry you aren't good at that game o_o. I've beaten that game on The Boss Extreme and the emblem which consists of beating the game on the highest difficulty with no deaths, no alerts, no kills, no recovery items, no stealth suit, no bandanna items, in under 5 hours. That game IS a stealth game. You CAN choose to play it as an action/tps. Such an amazing game... god I wish those installs didn't suck though.
but alas...I'm always let down by Ubisoft.
Stealth doesn't always entail quiet spaces. Conviction will do a great job with the crowd dynamics, I'm sure. Ever hear of the saying, "hiding in plain sight"? That's what Conviction is attempting to do. I'm not expecting more of the same, ala Chaos Theory, and I don't think anybody else should either. Conviction is a different beast entirely. I can't wait to see how they execute this mechanic. Easily one of my most anticipated games of 2010. By the way, I didn't mean to rile up the MGS fans with my previous comment. I love MGS just as much. I just happen to like Chaos Theory as well. Oh well...
To be honest, the stealth in MGS is really different. Because, in MGS games, if you get caught by enemies, you really get punished because you lose health very easily. That doesn't mean MGS does not want you to attack enemies at all. So stealth is pretty much forced upon you and the objective of the game is to make the player use his brain. Hence the tactical stealth action. In SC Conviction, stealth is implemented quite differently. The game feels as though you're supposed to implement stealth to take down enemies (not like MGS where you're supposed to use stealth to get past them). I guess that's the main difference here. Conviction focuses more on enemy takedowns while MGS focuses more on getting through the area unnoticed.
@phosphor112 well you just proved my point. you said u beat it with 0 alerts so obviously when ever you alerted the guards you just reloaded the save game instead of just playing it. you did it for the emblem but i did it cause the games broken. go back and play mgs4 and try beating it stealth mode without loading a save game or shooting people and youll see its impossible.
Lol, so you suck in mgs4 and u say the game is broken!? Why won't u go play PAC-man
Atm it's this and Peace Walker thats at war in the sleath genre. I hope they both suceed. I'm very excited about both
@1.6 and 1.7 lmao take the game off of don't hurt me mode, and try and mow the enemies down lets see how long you last, get through the game on normal or higher using only cqc, your stun knife and traq rounds then you can talk about the games stealth. @Pimp yeah if you ran out in the open and shoot at enemies with an unsilenced weapon the alerts will be very frequent, gee who would have thought. It's unfortunate the 2 of you confused the game with your typical mindless run into a area and kill anything that moves fast paced shooter, where the only count that matters is the body count. Mgs4 does encourage you to look at a situation a bit ahead of time and either pick routes or select priority targets to avoid detection. But you can decide to be an mindless brute and charge in with guns blazing, instead of using your brain and having some patience, both play styles are available.
Didn't they say that years ago before MGS4 sent Splinter Cell back to the drawing board?
redefined?or REDESIGNED after their first failed attempt? after they got a good look at kojima's game,they had better have a good game coming.
The old school MGS 1-3 always beat SC in graphics & MGS1 had the best story all time, but SC destryoed MGS in gameplay, & MGS2 & 3 got so crazy storywise with no control updates... Pandora Tommorow & Chaos Theory blew past MGS in terms of story & gameplay... I expect the new SC:C to do the same, be better in gameplay most definately & probably a better story than MGS4 as well. MGS1 is in my top 5 games of all time, but the gameplay never evolved & the story got seriously strange & convoluted. I was not impressed with the gameplay in MGS4 at all.
^^^Are you smoking something???
yea...stealthy for 5 hours....whoop dee doo
Are you talking about MGS4 because that's how long the game lasted once you removed all the cutscenes...
It redefined genre once, why not again. And on PS3 eventually, puuulease...
Of course it will redefine stealth! The new definition of stealth is action-packed-guns-blazing-and -just-run-into-shadows-after-yo u-are-done.
I'll believe it when I see it. MGS is the bar for me.
How can you compare Splinter Cell with MGS? It's like comparing Jrpgs with Wrpg's, they are different, MGS is totally different from Splinter Cell apart from the genre. Splinter Cell can just as good as MGS, but in it's own way.
I have absolute faith that Splinter cell will pull that off, 360 exclusives hold the record for many things. Best graphics, biggest sales, best review scores and ofcourse most fun to play.
When was the last time someone said a 360 game had the best graphics? It seems like years ago. The higher review scores make sense. But only because some people seem to like the 360 a little more. And best game. . . I don't think I have to say anything about that. Looks like your 360 has you brain washed, bro.
i guess sony racking up awards 2 years in a row with LBP and uncharted2 must mean they are getting lower reviews by the gaming community and not just 360 fans? i guess the busted metacritic that 360 fans used to use,and having ps3 games at the top there must mean 360 is better in reviews? i guess 360 fans falling back on "it's all about gameplay" when the graphics throne was taken by ps3 and 360 is getting murdered by killzone2,uncharted2,etc,means 360 has the better graphics?but again,no awards to back your statements. guess those OFFICIAL financial statements from EA,sega,capcom,konami,etc for the past 2 years saying the sony platform made them more money is false?those OFFICIAL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS? huh....more fun to play....opinion.....won't even bother..... sure fox.
Whats the point of good graphics if the game sucks?
Unless Ubisoft lets us down again this generation, like they did twice already (PoP, AC etc..)
.7 - It's not the fact that there's an emblem for sneaking around, it's the fact that... there's no incentive to except for that emblem at the end of the game. Yeah, it works, but again, there were only like two places I actually felt compelled to try and sneak. Other than that, if I was caught, I'd just mow down everyone. =------- what are you smoking? obviously you havent played mgs4. So many ways to sneak in this game , its not even funny. Kojima kept the stealth based game, and let players who love to run and gun give it a go. Obviously you fall under run and gun, i wonder how long that strategy paid off. lol
Another AAA title 2010 GOTY Contender NOT N O T NOT Available on ps3hasnoqualitygames2.5 FACT AND CONFIRMED.
I just hope they can backup their words because this game should have came out already in 2008 but I guess after seeing MGS4 they went back to the drawing board so 2 years later im hoping they can pull it off and give us something breath taking as MGS4 did for us MGS FANS in 2008. Especially with all the time they had to make this game also I wanna see if the graphics are better then UC2 or GOW3 since they did try an say the ps3 wasnt capable of running some of the lighting in SCC. Ubisoft dont disappoint me like u did with double agent.
Wow, poor elite ps3 guys wont be able to play this innovative game. Its ok, ill share full experience once i buy this :)
Beat it, kid.
Splinter Cell will "redefine what stealth is" just like how Final Fantasy 13 will "redefine what RPGs are". lolz.
Well it's the same studio that brought us Chaos Theory, and that was tops in my books. I have faith, and from what I've seen so far, it looks excellent. Time will tell if it's all that...
Let see. Splinter Cell in April, Alan Wake in May, and Crackdown 2 in Jun. I am looking hard to find a PS3 exclusive game for any of those months.
maybe you should look hard to find a life
So many quality games on the 360. Don't know why you would get any other console
quality over quanitity this year from microsoft.
mgs4 is probably one of the most stealthy games to date if u ask me.to get a real challenge out of mgs4 put the difficulty on the level,and try to beat the game without killing one enemy(besides bosses) and try not to set off one alarm.this is very hard to do but if u can pull it off then that means ur a master of one of the best stealth/action games ever made anyways,splinter cell conviction does lok promisng tho,looks like it will be the best splinter cell in the series,i mite have to ge a 360 just to check this one out
Snake already did that. Next please. I hear disagrees coming on its way (:
well lets hope you dont F**K the pc version up with your sh**ty drm or i will downloading.
Won't last forever
I am a metal gear fanboy. I played all the games and loved every minute of them. That being said i also enjoy games in general. SC series is one i have enjoyed as well. The only thing you could really compare them on is that they fall into the same stealth genre. In MG you could take the stealthy approach but you could also run and gun the game suits whatever play style you wish. In the SC series you take out the enemy from the shadows. SC may reinvent itself but reinvent stealth? Thats a huge claim to make for a series that has invented nothing. The game looks amazing and fun but i wish people would be a little more humble on the claims they make. Doesnt anyone remember what happened when Fable came out? or the original killzone?
has molyneux not shown people a lesson in how not to market games? :)
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