IncGamers has learned that Peter Molyneux, head of Lionhead Studios and general gaming guru, has tweeted that the Move, the latest motion controller from Sony, "seems similar to the wii".
Sour grapes? We know he's following Natal...
lmao, BREAKING NEWS: The sky is blue and water is wet
All I gotta say is the the PS MOVE is CLEARLY better than the Wii. Im still not interested yet though, everything that was shown was pre-alpha. And Molyneux DIDN'T say anythg incorrect. It is similar to the Wii. If anythg, the title is misleading.
Here's his exact tweet: "Hear things about sony's arc it seems similar to the wii. Today I am talking to more devs saw some cool concepts yesterday." Doesn't sound like he's "unconvinced" to me
The fact that it IS similar to the Wii is the reason why there will be more support for it. Any major 3rd party Wii game will come to PS3 because they'll know that it's a similar control scheme and they won't have to change much. Sony also made it easy for Wii devs to port games, and devs are now saying that the tools are very easy to use. Example, MadWorld could easily come to PS3 now, Monster Hunter Tri, pretty much ANY 3rd party Wii game, and you know that Nintendo won't pay for exclusivity, because that's not how they roll. Also this means that Nintendo will ramp up on their own games, they've been taking it easy for far too long, they need Natal and Move to give a kick up the backside and get them working for us gamers!
Maybe that will help make it get a lot more support. It will be interesting to see how they implement it into games.
Hows that tweet say he's unconvinced?? How is it being similar to a control that basically made 56 million people buy a souped up gamecube a bad thing (imagine what it would do for PS3 if it made people buy a souped up gamecube)? Also this guy has been on MS pay cheque for a long time now people or at least STRONG incentives lets get that clear.
Sorry Molyneux, you have never done anything to prove that you're someone that should be listened to in this industry. Try creating a game that didn't completely miss the mark for once, at least when that ever happens you can pretend like you have the gift of foresight. Until then, stick to what you know. Little boy play time simulators...
Seeing as how him and his friend / partner milo are the poster boys for natal. Did anyone expect him to praise Move? oh come on!!
PSMove is just as much like the Wii as Natal is like the EyeToy.
and Natal seems strangely similar to the PS eye(toy). . .
and biased towards the 360, I don't think any of the 360 games score are straight forward.
yeah, talk about Captain Obvious, its definitely a wii-ripoff from sony....might as well call it "wii-move" by sony, and I dont doubt for a second the same sony folks who bash Natal relentlessly would be calling out micro for "lack of innovation", if this was a micro product. lol JOY
Gamers unconvinced by Microsoft's Natal? Some say, "..seems similar to PS Eye." Does anyone care what this guy has to say?
I never listen to what he says to be honest.. The Molyneux effect Whenever discussing his next game he always talks about ridiculous boundries that the game will reach. He has all these wonderful and farfetched ideas, unfortunatly Lionhead are not a great studio. How many of his ideas actually make the final product and are anywhere near to what he describes...
LOL @ Jokes on You.. Wii Move!! LOL..+bubbles..that one actually might stick.. I'm joking..that's my imitation of the usual suspects who have spent 2010 in Natal Hate mode.. On subject.. Natal took so many hits this year..it is fair for the Wii 'Move'..oops my bad..to get a couple of rib shots.. But the fact is..Peter didn't lie..because everyone on the planet is thinking the same thing..and PS3 fans can't hide behind the 'Sony reps never talks about the Xbox 360' thing anymore..because they have all year.. PS3 to Nintendo..check..your move Evil
Seriously, why do we care what he thinks about playstation products. As far as I am concerned, fable 1 was way overhyped and disappointed me greatly, then along came fable II claiming to be everything 1 wasn't and I was even more let down with it... the games should have been named flop and flop 2. I am very leary about fable 3. This guy talks big but never delivers. That being the case he should be the very last person to throw mud at what other people are producing...
This Move controller by Sony actually works Unlike Microsoft's regular practice of ripping off there customers, in this case its called Natal which is OLD Technology that FAILED TERRIBLY at there 1st attempt. If any of you recall Back when Xbox360 Came out with there OVERPRICED Camera it included a Game Called TOTEM BALL, The object of this game is to MOVE THE BALL AROUND WITH YOUR HANDS (no controller and just like Natal). It took hours just to Find the right combination of standing at the right distance and adjusting the lights in the room just to get this crap of a idea to work. Here is a video Of Totem Ball /Natal version 1--> http://www.youtube.com/watc... Needless to say Microsoft's Hand Motion technology Barley worked at best,While the Sun burn from having to put 4 Lamps around me just so MS's Motion Technology would work has cleared up. The bottom line here is That Microsoft knows that there talking out there bung hole with Natal and trying to push yet another Failure product with only Profit in mind, There getting upset that Sony once again has done it correctly.
Pls, Molyneux stop embarrassing urself. We all know who you support and don't support so this is not surprising news. Im sick of these retarded articles...
Like he is somehow a "futurist" ... a forward-thinking developer who looks toward the future... *Throws up* On point... From the article: "Although the Eyetoy will also be required, one has to wonder what purpose that fulfils." Ummmm, it is called the PS Eye... and it is what makes the Move so precise. Great reporting!!
lol. If he can deliver Fable 3, he words will hold some water. But after Fable 2, I'm am just looking for a reason to stop looking forward to fable franchise at all. But I do agree, just like how Natal is an PSeye improvement. PS Move is a Wii-wand improvement.
And Natal is similar to Eyetoy! What is your point? Only difference is waggle has been successful and Eyetoy hasn't. If I were going to copy something... @JOY: It's like you didn't read a single post in here! But I know you're pretending just so you can go on your usual Sonyboys rant again! And Evildead following you up also pretending their aren't 100 posts of PS3 owners saying, "yes it is, so what!?" It's only you 360 dudes deluding yourselves that Natal isn't an Eyetoy. One day, if you ignore our posts enough and keep pretending, you will actually believe in your heart we are as bad as you!
@1.18 I WAS RIGHT! IT IS LIKE THE SECRET SIGNAL!
Translation: "I'm frightened to death of PS3 Move completely overshadowing Natal"
'And Evildead following you up also pretending their aren't 100 posts of PS3 owners saying, "yes it is, so what!?" It's only you 360 dudes deluding yourselves that Natal isn't an Eyetoy. One day, if you ignore our posts enough and keep pretending, you will actually believe in your heart we are as bad as you!' Once again...you need to rename yourself FAR FROM 'Da Truth'..what are you even talking about? Once again you are making up something to argue about..but don't even read what the people wrote that you start arguments with.. I don't have to prove how 'bad' or even hypocritical people are on this site..I just state the facts..natal got bashed and now people are eating their words and reversing their stance on motion controls This isn't fiction..this is what YOU wrote with your own keyboard a couple of months ago.. http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-... 'Seriously, this whole Natal affair has me believing all 360 owners are fanboys. There is just not one single 360 owner not hailing this as God! I have yet to see even one PS3 owner who is hyped for motion controls! Sony making it, is not a reason to like it, unlike you guys and MS! We've rejected them like 5 times already' Raise your hands if you NOW see 'one PS3 owner who is hyped for motion controls'... Thanks for easily proving my point Evil
I mean, look what he did for Natal, if you follow me.
Sorry Molyneux but the Move isn't for pedophiles
Yep even majority of PS3 fan accept the Move looks like a epic fail. I mean straight rip-off from wii. Move = Wii Motion Plus.
of course former xbox head would say something like that. Really the Move showed off more capabilites then the Natal, by far, oh and it actually works with exsisting titles.
Molyneux Unconvinced By Sony Move? That's a bullsh1t title for you right there. All the freak says is that it seems similar to the wii. I think that's a fair assessment.
Wait! WAIT! WAAAIIIITTTTTT!!!! And we are listening to a guy who had to cancel a 3rd, that right... A THIRD.... 33%.... THIRTY THREE PERCENT!!!!!.... of all the games his company ever worked on?! Also, wasn't this the guy who said there were things in his games... which turned out to be a lie?! Please, somebody tell me how this guy is a respectable developer?! Oh yes, Mr. Molyneux. We should all take note of what you have to say indeed! LMFAO!
Well, here's the actual full tweet: "Hear things about sony's arc it seems similar to the wii. Today I am talking to more devs saw some cool concepts yesterday." Anyone who denies that it IS similar to the wii is retarded. Just take the tweet for what it's worth and stop looking into everything...
I don't think anyone would deny it...The same way that the 360 dashboard mirrors nintendo's miis. Sony is definitely attempting to attract the wii users
it's funny how we have all of these little articles popping up reading too much into what people are saying. First, Engadget says that one game in the pre-alpha stage is laggy and N4PS3G writes a blog about how Engadget said Move was laggy and worse than the Wii. Now, we have people trying to make a big fuss about Molyneux saying that it is similar to the Wii. Who cares? I wonder if we are going to get a bunch of articles about Natal being laggy or how it is similar to the EyeToy. This is all rubbish.
the prob isnt if it's true or not . It is just that obvious that molyneux as an interested party hardly had credible input in the matter ... just like Sony devs wouldnt be credible when it comes to natal .
It's not just similar to the Wii, its what the Wii should have been in the first place. IncGamers is just looking for hits with a title like that.
Aye. You dont need Sherlock to figure that out. PS Move came from Wiimotes. Natal came from PSeye. But ofc there will be some people who only agree with one of those statements. *cough* fanboys *coughs*
They actually think PS3 owners are as deluded as them! You guys are the only ones kidding yourselves! Move is a Wii copy and Natal is an Eyetoy copy! You guys are the only ones who can't see this. But then I guess it wouldn't be a revolution in gaming if you guys faced that!
Well, it's a lot like the Wii :)
He's not wrong, judging by what I've heard about it. It really does just look like it functions similarly to the Wii. It might be an improved version, but even so, it looks like pretty much the same deal.
He says its similar to the Wii..everyone knows that Peter..your point?
Natal seems similar to the PS eyetoy.
omg the biased al bundy should be sent to the open zone. /s lol... We all know it is coming, thought I would say it.
Molyneux is always spot on. His reputation of failure after failure precedes him
I wouldn't go along the lines of failure, more of just him promising more then what he delivers. Though I can't say much since I have yet to play Fable 2 I have played the first one and both of his Black and White games.
Well, I actually enjoyed Fable2 after thinking i'd despise it. However, Peter, bless him as i LOVE the way he gets excited like a kid in a sweetshop after finding a tenner when talking about the ideas he has for his games-it's passionate, infectious and just how a creative mind should display itself. Problem is, he's a failure by his own standards because when he gets carried away he REALLY gets carried away and his mouth and imagination write cheques that neither he nor the 360 can currently cash. So, yes, he IS a failure. If he says my game will do this, that and the other while having a dog in it that comes out of the screen and grabs the pad to sort out tough bosses, hep your kids with their algebra and dictate a cure for cancer down the phone to the Nobel prize committee on your behalf and then none of it happens he's failed. whether it's just because he got excited and hadn't realised tech hasn't caught up to what he can think up doesn't mater after he's on record making what turn out to be empty promises. Seriously, i really like the fella and imagine he's a decent bloke with amazing ideas but I don't know whether he's the best at either getting them across to a team OR thinking how to make them possible on current technology. While he keeps saying things that don't ever happen he's always be a failure. A glorious failure that I'll always prefer to tight lipped, media trained monkey devs with cookie cutters where their brain should be(and there's plenty of them)but definitely a failure none-the-less. I create a fair bit of stuff myself(different fields but still making my own stuff)and totally understand the fury of the whirlwind we have when the muse takes us and we get flowing about what we're going to do, what we want to do and what we dream of doing. Without that he wouldn't be half the developer he is today and, truly, I think he's going to really nail a game sooner or later that won't be great just in places or weaker than the sum of it's arts as, mostly, I feel his games suffer from TOO many ideas and too much ambition and I reckon he's more disappointed than any of us when that happens. Just think -he says what he does because his ideas excite him and excite him to bring them to us so how do we think he'd feel when they don't come to fruition? So, yeah, i reckon he's OK. Oh_He should never have started tweeting about Move when he's so tight with MS and particularly Milo/Natal. Not that it was rude or anything but when you have an interest in the enemy hardware it's so open to abuse and assumption it's just better to keep mum. That's all-and he was fair enough it IS like the Wii but improved in a few ways. No biggie.
It is like the Eyetoy Albundy...except for one little thing. The eyetoy does not render in 3D Space. Opps. That's actually a big thing
And Natal seems similar to Eyetoy...Nice damage control Molyneux
And the Eyetoy looks similar to a web cam..whats UR point? ROFL
The only thing eyetoy and natal have in common is a camera. Natal has far more tech that you think in it.
Natal and the eyetoy do pretty much the same things. You can find a lot of old videos of eye toy stuff that looks pretty much the same as what Natal does now. The main difference in tech are that Natal will provide z-axis info. But there really isn't much that Natal can do that the eye toy can't. Of course it should do many of these things better, but there really isn't much new. And it's pretty much the same when you compare move and wiimote. Is there anything the move can do that the wiimote can't? Again it's just the z-axis data and better precision. So the move is a better wiimote, Natal is a better eye toy.
You fail to see me point deadreckoning. For as long as anyone can remember people have taken ideas off of eachother and developed them. It's something the industry thrives on. Natal isn't original, and neither is PS Move...so my point is that Molyneux can say PS Move is like Wii all he wants, Avatars are like Mii's, Natal is Eyetoy Mk.II, Trophies are Sony's response to achievements...thats my point. You've got to be blind not to see this.
Imagine that...a Microsoft loyalist not impressed by Sony tech.
You have to admit this thing is going for direct competition with the Wii and is similar in design and even some of the games they showed off. There is no denying that.
I will admit that as soon as you admit Microsoft is taking the exact same approach. Seems both Sony and Microsoft and jumping in for a piece of the Nintendo pie. Can you blame them? Especially, considering the massive Nintendo fanbase.
Natal seems similar to ps2 eyetoy
aka last-gen technology
It seems similar only if you have no clue about the tech inside Natal which you obviously don't. But since you are a blinded PS3 fanboy how come Naughty Dog cofounder and Metal Gear Solid 4 creator both praised Natal?
With the constant "revisions" to the hardware, do you have a clue about the tech inside? Remember, there has already been a report of the processor being removed.
"But since you are a blinded PS3 fanboy how come Naughty Dog cofounder and Metal Gear Solid 4 creator both praised Natal?" Naughty Dog wasn't relevant until he left. Calling him the "creator" of MGS4 is the biggest stretch I've ever heard. I know you are trying to make a point that facts just don't back up, and being the fanboy that you are you have to stretch the truth to fit your delusions, but next time you might want to try a little harder... or rather a lot harder. And Natal is incredibly similar to the Eyetoy, in more ways than the Move is similar to the Wii motion controls. That is a clear fact.
natal is not as original as u think. this is psmove and pseye in 2004. the same guy who demoed it in e3. skip to 9:30 its very similar to ricochet.
isnt the wii last gen- ?
Hmm seems similar to the Wii huh... *Contacts Capcom Japan to see if they could then port Monster Hunter Tri over to the PS3*
Right along side monster hunter frontier.
like a PS eye toy and dont forget the sega activator
peter go back to milo he is waiting for you in bed.
I'm unconvinced by Peter Molyneux. Fable was pretty average and Fable 2 wasn't all that impressive. Maybe he should step his game up before he starts evaluating others.
right now peter and milo are crying in the dark as most PUBLISHERS are already in board with the Move while in Natal they are inviting kojima to have a discussion and how fakely excited were they meantime sony has already developers readying games for ps3/move.
Wow...what is this world coming to?... An article based upon a tweet from a developer./facepalm