CC: 2K Games have revealed that the Mafia II experience will last for fifteen hours, also adding that the Xbox 360 version of the game will ship on just one disc.
So is that mean the 360 version will be heavily compressed?
How long's this one been in development? Three years at least. I was expecting 20, but the quality of the game is brilliant from what I've seen. Looking forward :)
I hope that means we get plenty of side missions.
@FangBlade Hopefully. Otherwise they'd have to dumb down the game itself to make it fit.
"360 Version Ships On One Disc" Kinda funny that they are prefacing games this way anymore...
15 hours for a sandbox-style game is pitiful. Devs/publishers always exaggerate game time, too.
I don't get it... that's the norm on X360 so it's expected. Oblivion and GTA also shipped on one disc didn't they?
Yes, the 360 version will likely be compressed and lower res than the PS3, but with the right people doing the compression you can make the game look almost identical, and at the same time it will tend to play better with regard to tearing and framerate. This has already happened with a few 360 games in the past, so don't know why it would be a surprise. I'm not a fan of the compression used in FFXIII, that is a sign of poorly managed compression assets, but there is something to be said of someone who's able to make a game with half the pixels look barely different from the higher res, non-compressed graphics/audio. I am very disappointed with the listed hours of gameplay. Typically the listed amount is about 20% over the norm, that means to expect closer to 12 hours. Though, this is inline with the length of the first game, which took between 10 and 15 hours to finish. I guess I just expect too much from these type of games. Don't know why I do. @Shaman below: You said, "I will install it on the hard drive,so i dont care about compression." Response Edited: Got ya. Just some miscommunication then. Game on.
why blu ray? CG and movies PERIOD @ Morganfell How you doing poser fake gamer?
Mafia 2 is not sandbox style as GTA,you follow the story whole time and you dont have the ability to do anything other then playing missions. Mafia fit on single DVD,and was HUGE,I have no doubt this,with little more use of compression will be great experience.I will install it on the hard drive,so i dont care about compression.
15 hours? i remember mafia 1 was one of the best games ive ever played and i remember playing it for alot more than just 15 hours. pc version ftw
Naw i thought that when i install it i will not get those texture place holders,i miss wrote it :) When i play GTA IV from the disk,i get longer loading and more texture and frame rate problem(when i drive fast through city textures are missing).Thats what i meant,even if they could do that(to un compress,same like PC) when installed but that would not be fair to arcade owners.
Why you guys acting like this is FF13? Mafia 2 is lead development on the Xbox 360 not PS3. So there was no "compromising". It's on once disc like it's supposed to be because thats all they needed. Dunno why @cgoodno is talking about lower res for...let's now forget this is just another multi-platform game and what system are most of those games better on? Exactly. He says, "that's all we needed." Plain and simple. Not, "we had to throw some things out etc because we didn't have enough room for our initial game."
i was expecting somethng around 30... what the hell?
More than a handful of games on the 360 have been lower rez than their PS3 counterpart... and still won the video comparisons for a multiude of reasons. As things continue forward and developers are finding ways to do magic with both systems, 360 games that are sticking to a single disc tend to have lower resolutions but utilize 360-capable methodologies that match up and even surpass the PS3 in many areas.
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Mafia II is a very linear, story driven game; it isn't open world. It's not GTAIV and even that game fit on 1 DVD.
that means there aren't a lot of content on this one no towns FTL
Maybe because this game dont depend of huge CG cut scenes and is more ingame content gameplay than those famous rpgs? so Tell me loyalists how huge cg cut scenes evolution the gameplay experience on games this days?
you seriously suck. but, everyone already knows that. How does it feel to be all alone? You must be to, be so miserable 24/7.
that last trailer was excellent. the action was what i'd hoped GTA4 would have had. day one for me. and i can't help but wonder: has this game been made to fit on a standard dvd? and if so......would it have been even bigger if not for the dvd limitations and not wanting multiple discs for the 360 verison?
@beavis You better forget about those questions. They will remain unanswered and this is not a friendly place to pose them.
Maybe some publisher finally had the balls to say it isn't necessary for the 360 and PS3 versions to have the same content. That will be the first question out of my mouth when we see those guys this week. We have a pretty full schedule with a lot of conferences and discussion panels but I certainly want to make the rounds.
Why would any publisher (that isn't Sony or Nintendo related) want to piss off Microsoft? This game (like almost every other game) is going to sell better on Microsoft's platform anyway, so pissing them off would be pretty dumb buisiness wise.
I seem to have upset some people that lack 'capacity'. What's the difference between a publisher making versions of a game different - like they do with the Wii, like they did last gen with PS2/Xbox and providing exclusive DLC to one console. Anyone? Bueller? No difference really. Except PS3 owners and their next gen console wouldn't be getting shafted. Like I said earlier, the PS3 and the PC are the fast, lean people in the movie that get eaten by the dinosaur because they are shackled to the fat kid that can't keep up.
I think people disagreed with you because your comment lacked "capacity" or, maybe because obvious trolling is obvious.
You know what your and your fellow Sony fanboy problem?You constantly keep putting ps3 in PC ballpark,but ps3 is far cry from PC,its real competition is 360,console with highest software attach rate and one of the most dev friendly consoles ever released.Why would devs want to intentionally make it inferior because of ps3?Mafia 2 was made like this from beginning(fans know what im talking about),same city,same missions,same EVERYTHING.Mafia original was maybe 18 hrs,not more,so this cant be consider a 360 fault,its how they made it.As far as i care,devs could put 2 disks in all games and there would be no downgrade for any console,and as a matter of fact its hard to put 20-30 GB of uncompressed data on blu ray,and i mean about game assets because NO 3rd party dev have funds for those kind of assets,only few Sony 1st party. Stop whining and acting like devs should be honored to work for ps3 and their "premium" owners and put 50% more time and money to fill blu ray.Play god damn games and enjoy it. You know what,give me as much as disagrees you want.But that wont change the fact that neither UC1,UC2,GOW III,KZ2 etc lasted for more then 15 hrs.You guys are so pathetic,why didnt GOW III last more then GOW II even with 10 times more space? [email protected] You dont understand anything.Why would it be bad to put some games on 2 disks?Its not like you "premium" gamers will have to get up from couch for 10 sec and replace disk,but i would and i will.Second thing,assets COST,you cant simply make 50 hr game with 5 hours of cut scenes in cgi and then expect to end up the same as making game 20 hrs,normal cut scenes and not cgi etc... The most important thing about "holding back" is that,one of the most famous hold backs,GTA IV,had HUGE map,looong story and gameplay so nothing was hold back.Maybe you would argue about texture quality or gfx but ps3 version wasnt even stable 30 neither was HD,neither do textures have anything to do with disk space. Consoles hold PC technology back,i dont really care that much.Games look amazing but they sure would look even more if PC was lead and then downgraded to eternity for consoles,but hey piracy is a bi*** isnt she? :)
Oh there is someone whining in this thread and I am responding to them. Need some cheese with that? I sense another console hating PC gamer that wants to blame consoles for all of their problems. Oh woe is me. And devs do not have to intentionally make the 360 version inferior. All they have to do is push each console as far as it will go, take advantage of what each has to offer and the the 360 just comes out on the bottom. I don't say they should make an inferior version for the 360 but rather they should cease hobbling the PS3 to match the limits and restrictions of the 360. The internet is a tough place and the truth hurts some people. And you are another one of those people that think you can just say "Throw it on two discs"...and suddenly the disc fairly shows up in her tutu waving her sparkling wand. Sorry, neither the developmental nor financial side works like that for games. Every extra disc cost money and it requires a great deal of engineering as well as changes to the game design itself. But why am I taking to someone that fails to grasp the most basic issues in this matter.
shaman, i did NOT pose those questions as a jab at the 360.....i'm simply stating what i'm reading from different devs over the past several months. examples? id with "rage"; SE with FF13; capcom with the new lost planet; team bondi with LA Noire. stop being so defensive and enjoy the discussion.......now - on to the more interesting thoughts. van-essa - i don't see why devs shouldn't be trying to make the very best game possible with the tools available to them. games like gears and ME2 show that the 360 is capable of some great content. however, it's becoming more apparent by the week that the dvd format is becoming a constraint that is forcing devs to make tough choices.' i also don't see why MS would be "pissed" at any dev for aspiring to make the best game possible on the ps3. one of my biggest disappointments this gen (besides RE5 and overall lack of single-player dlc) is how 3rd party devs are wasting their time and resources to make average,identical multi-plat games for the 360 and ps3. when you look at what has been shown to be possible on the ps3 from sony 1st party and other independant devs (kojima, insomniac games) when they strive to use the ps3 to it's highest capabilites - i don't think what i posed in the post above is unreasonable to consider. and shaman......get a grip. total hours played for a game vary from gamer to gamer. i beat "heavenly sword" and the first gears in about 8 hours each - and i consider both to be outstanding games. i also took 15-20 hours on UC, UC2, KZ2, MGS4, and the ratchet games - which were all excellent too! (i'm hoping for ME2 to come to ps3 so i can play). it isn't necessarily about the length of the game - it's about the experience.
now with every x360 game released is gonna be question is it on one disc?
Yep, "does the PS3 version have an install?" vs "Does the 360 version come on one disc?"
it's funny how they put a disclaimer on these things nao about how many discs the 360 version will come with. lol
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I hope it wasn't dumbed down across all platforms due to X360 dvd limit , the first one was a blast on the PC . Seriously though , X360 seems to be holding back some games especially open world.
What are they doing putting a time limit on it?
How much content was cut then?
Sounds more n more like the 360 is holding bk true potential of games with there stubburn use of dvds and no mandtory hdd in all consoles.i was realy looking forward to this game but was expecting 50+hours plus for open game world.
You expected 50 hours?Sandbox game?Did you ever play Mafia?It was NEVER meant to be 50 hrs,original was 18 so 15 is their decision.They would never make 50 hr game,its not Final Fantasy... LOL neither UC2,UC1 or GOW III last more then 15 hours...you hypocritical stubborn idiots..
Hey Shaman instead of getting mad, like a girl in her days, why dont you double check the genre of the games you listed? true, exactly: linear action/adventure, hack and slash. Why dont compare better with inFAMOUS? it for sure got more than 15 hours gameplay.
What a pant load.. Is this going to be the idiotic thing we have to deal with every time a new multiplat comes out? Somebody pulling "the 360 is holding it back" comment every time? When what, %90 of games have performed better on the 360 this gen with multiplats. Don't you worry about the 360 I'm sure it will be just fine with this game. Uh, yes I do have Infamous and it's a 20 hour game tops. "LOL neither UC2,UC1 or GOW III last more then 15 hours...you hypocritical stubborn idiots.. " Worst to grace gaming.. I tell you
Is that it? I was hoping for at least 25 hours like GTA San Andreas
There could be more than 15 hrs. much more. I was told that Darksiders would be about 25 hrs. well, I played it on the hardest level, apocolyptic and didn't use no cheats or walkthroughs or hints even and I finished the game w/40 hrs. in it. It took a while to find all the abysall armor. I loved it. So, i'm guessing that this can reach 25 hrs. if totally searched/played.
its sandbox game do people not understand multi disc on sandbox game would not work everything is streaming of the disc you would just be switching disc every time you went to diffrent location then back again there will oviousley be cuts 360 is just starting limt devs and hope they start to just add the stuff ps3 and pc rather than cutting.
Can't say I've been following this particular game. But 15 hours? Ya kidding? That means you could be done with it in a weekend. Not exactly good value for money or am I completely missing something?
God3 is 9-10 hours... Most games average 10-14 hours so mafia 2 is actually above the average in length for a game this generation...outside of a RPG game.
Well, that explains it. I play pretty much only RPGs, MMOs, RTS/Strategy games and simulators. Those games can easily take 15 hours just to get started on. Heck, most free MMO trials can get you that much entertainment... for free. And people complain about MMOs being too expensive because of the monthly sub? Oh well, I was considering expanding my horizon (MMO pickings are slim these days), but I can't justify buying a game if I might be done with it in half a week or less. Heck, even a week doesn't really fly in my book. I'd have to be a bloody pirate then (which isn't cool regardless of how you justify it) because I don't have the money to support such spending habits on throwaway games month after month.
Been looking foward to this game for a long time the gameplay videos look amazing. Cant wait for it
i look forward to mafia 2
thanks Xbox 360 and your outdated DVD drive. this is getting ridiculous now. gamers are now paying MORE MONEY for LESS content than they got last generation, and it's 100% due to the Xbox 360. i'm sure Mafia 2 will be a good game, but i'm not paying $60 for it. i'm sorry. sure, you can stretch out the play time of a sandbox game, but Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, what i think to be, still, the best representation of what a "crime style" sandbox game can be, had a rather long story, and TONS of game length due to just fooling around. if the sandbox genre wants to remain relevant, it needs to add more interactivity with the environment/NPCs. inFAMOUS was a good start, in that it, at the least, let you interact with citizens by healing/bio-leeching them. Assassin's Creed had some nice world interactions as well. the crime sandbox genre is getting stale. being a superhero like in inFAMOUS and Crackdown, or being a parkour master like in Assassin's Creed, i think, are far more engaging than just driving around shooting things and being involved in underworld shenanigans. but maybe that's just me. i've been playing sandbox games for AGES now, and i think the "GTA style" sandbox genre has run it's course. it's great and all that Mafia 2 is shipping on one disc for the 360, but at what cost? either content, visuals, or audio will be compromised in order to make that fit. in this day and age of having to compete with other games visually, i have a feeling that content was the big cut for this game, if anything, to keep the game visually impressive. it's funny, because on the PS3, you can have your cake and eat it too (visuals AND content). there's no real size limitation that forces developers to cut corners. i like my 360, but this is becoming a trend, and it's something that Playstation fans like myself have been predicting since the BEGINNING of this generation, only to get called all sorts of colorful expletives from the fanboys. yeah, we were RIGHT, enjoy your gimped games for the rest of the generation (the PS3 fanbase is suffering too, of course, since developers are so obsessed with "console parity," even though they weren't LAST generation, when the Xbox got special treatment to optimize it's versions of multi-plats, since the PS2 wasn't as powerful).
"even though they weren't LAST generation, when the Xbox got special treatment to optimize it's versions of multi-plats, since the PS2 wasn't as powerful)." Thats so untrue its comical. Most multiplats last generation only looked slightly better on the Xbox1 even though the Xbox1 blew away the PS2 in hardware capability especially Ram and GPU...Because the PS2 did not have a seprate GPU at all and could not support AA at all. It was only a handful of games that showed the power of the Xbox1. funny part is the Xbox1 was never fully tapped. The closest was Splinter Cell Caous and Chronicles of Riddick. Two games that the PS2 could not match graphically or technically. But other then those games and maybe Ninja Gaiden and Half Life 2, games looked the same pretty much
just forget it I cant stand N4G and the miserable people that congregate here to hate on games they have yet to play.
You are going off the deep end. Go play Infamous a Blu-ray sandbox game that is also 15-20hours tops and then think about your comment.
With all due respect sire, you really are talking out of your ass.
I'm assuming that means 15 hours total for just the MAIN game right? I hope that's not including all the bonus missions, etc....
For an article whose title has to say a game ships on one disk...something is very wrong if that has to make headlines.... I find it LOL funny
15 hours? A lil bit short, as far I remember the first one was much longer
People need to play the first Mafia which I don't think to many people here have. Its open world game but not like GTA. It follows the story and sticks with it using an open world setting but without side mission stuff. It features full length mission too, not a bunch quick side missions like what you always play in GTA. Though they did improve it in GTA4 like with the bank heist mission making them longer. I know 2K said they plan to use the open setting better but its still going to follow how the first Mafia game was. The first Mafia was not any longer either, I've played through on the PC more then a few times and it can take anywhere from 10-15hrs. Some of the missions are pretty tough.
LOL ships on one disc.
"Ships on one Disc" they make it sound like a big accomplishment good for you BOTS
I don't remember Mafia I being a sandbox title. I do remember the various cities you could go into within each mission and ways to escape the law if you were caught speeding and things like that, but I don't remember being able to just go off and do my own thing and find other side missions to do.. but then again it's been YEARS since I played the first one on PC (when my PC was actually relevant lol)
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