Final Fantasy XIII isn't the first Final Fantasy game for the Xbox platform. Final Fantasy XI was. However, this is the first core Final Fantasy game to go multi-platform at launch. So, why did Square Enix decide to develop an Xbox 360 version?
i was gonna do that D=<
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the games industry is a business after all, its all about $$$$$$$$, even for sony
Well, yes, they have to say it in a way that doesnt anger their fans lol. The Playstation 3 version will absolutely trash the 360 version.
doesn't this money talk remind you of this? XD
well yeh, i know we're all here playing games for entertainment, but for developers and publishers it's their business and living.
Removed the townz...damn you SE!
Microsoft probably paid all development costs for both systems. They even bought the advertising rights and dont forget the bundle. Even best buy had the the 360 version all over their ads and in small text also on ps3. The ironic part is sony owns 9% of square-enix so sony made money on both versions.
It's all about the Benjamins. The thing here though is that the money was in the potential of selling more games on the 360, not MS goons meeting Square Enix people in an undisclosed location in Tokyo to give them a suitcase of money, like some fan people here on N4G imagine. Square did this in the 90s also be porting Final Fantasy on the PC they just want to sell more games and who wouldnt? The rest, bundles, add campaign ect, is just Microsoft marketing slapping Sony marketing across the face, Sony needs to up their marketing game this gen, Microsoft are playing for keeps, well, in NA at least, and they got the money to do it.
Some of you people post messages of dollar signs like it's a surprise. What the hell do you think Microsoft, Sony & Nintendo are in the gaming business for? If you so called gamers have jobs or go to school, what are you doing it for? $$$$$$$$$$$???? You selfish bastards! You should all do volunteer work for the rest of your lives. Hey, maybe you can make us a few games for free. How about it?
Makes all the sense of this world that FFXIII on the xbox was a business decision, what is wrong though is the linearity ends when disk 3 is inserted, no towns to be seen and the Japanese voiceover was totally removed from the BD version. SE made FFXIII no more than a decent game. 82 and dropping is the score.
Didn't you know, Sony is only in business to give to the consumer. They don't want to make money, if it weren't for Microsoft they would just give away their system and games. The eternal light that is in the vault in Sony's headquarters preaches to give and give and give, and only take was absolutely necessary to survive as a company. I think all the executives work for free. The souls of Ghandi, Mother Theresa, John the Baptist, sit on the board of directors and I think Jesus founded the company. Microsoft on the other hand was founded by Satan, they steel and rape and pillage. They own all of the gaming media, they pay off congress and world leaders so they can secretly screw over all gamers. The 360 is actually a doomsday device that they want to get into everyones house and then ignite them and the world ends and all of our souls will go to hell. Sony is like the fifth element. They are positioning themselves in every home so that the eternal light can stop the darkness. Well, I am sure thats what any new member of N4G thinks after all of the hate articles and posts by the gaming community here.
You Guys Are WRONG, it wasn't for "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$" FF13 for x360 = [ $##.000.000 ]
...it was for a lot of money. And their reputation.
SE did it out of the goodness of their heart with no intention of profiting. It was for the good will of their fans! That is why FF XIII is free on any platform and you can simply go into the store and grab one at any time and walk out! Employees don't need wages, they do it because they love their job and would never dream of asking for wages. People don't need money to live and therefore everything should just be made for FREE!!!
Remember, this is your beloved MS: http://www.n4g.com/industry... Microsoft has a history that dates back way beyond the XBox1, might want to check it out before you go about flag waving again. OT: They did it all for the Nuki!!!
@Hakimy: Bubbles for your post. That was awesome. Now just imagine Bill Gates with that laugh. lol. You should check out the ones I post. lol. Next. I find it hilarious that Wada tries to pass it off as "Microsoft asked us to do it, so we did." Yeah, they "asked" for it, with a large check. Finally, to all you sarcastic people like Idle, and feelintheflow, what you fail to remember is WHO these people get their money from. You don't make money by pissing people off, you make money by giving people what they want and making them happy. That's what Sony does. Yes, they are in it for money, but they LISTEN to their consumers. It may take them some time to implement things, but you can be sure that when enough people want something on the PS3, it'll be there eventually. No 360 users were screaming for FFXIII before that E3 it was announced in. All PS3 users were expecting the same thing with FFXIII that we had been used too with FFX, and the PS1 FF's, and that was an awe inspiring, epic game with tremendous production value, an intricate and engrossing story, and that Final Fantasy feel we all came to know and love. And what did we get? Final Fantasy FPSSJRPG. In this case it stands for First Person Shooter Style Japanese Role Playing Game. And why did we get that? Because Microsoft opened their checkbooks and SE altered an already great game to cater to the lowest common denominator. Did anyone ask for a gimped game? Did anyone want that in any way? No. So they acted for purely greedy and selfish reasons. Yeah, Microsoft made SE a lot of money, but the cost was pissing off a lot of people who will now think twice about purchasing another SE game. And that sucks because it's not FF that will suffer, it's other, lesser known games that could be great that will suffer. EDIT: Some vids for Hakimy. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Obviously it was for money because they knew PS3 owners wouldn't bother buying it. It's not ideal when you create a masterpiece and nobody appreciates it, so SE gave it to an audience who would.
So it's your contention then that 360 fans appreciate or would appreciate FFXIII even though every other JRPG on that console flopped commercially except MAYBE Lost Odyssey? That PS3 fans, who were likely PS1 and PS2 owners previous and used to FF the way it has been on that family of consoles, wouldn't appreciate a game they likely bought their PS3 just for? Is that what you're trying to say?
Umm... yeah, more so than any other company I can think of. Sony lost up to $300 with every PS3 sold at the beginning of this generation. They were willing to make that sacrifice in order to offer the world a better storage format for HD movies and more space for developers to make HD games. More space = more freedom.
Sony is not some benevolent company out to do good to all the gamers who have love in their hearts. Sony's LONG TERM PLAN, as they explained over and over again at the start of this generation, is to put out sustainable tech in order to..what? MAKE MONEY. They didnt put out the PS3 in order bless the world with a better storage format. LOTS of sht went down with the development of the PS3. Sony threw A LOT of money at it. Even Jack Tretton says there were serious problems developing the console: http://gizmodo.com/5025980/... "In this case, the hardware guys developed the console fairly independently then dumped it onto the software guy's lap, effectively saying "do something with it." In essence, as Tretton says, the PS3 was not developed in collaboration between the two teams. As a result of this, the software team has been cleaning up the mess made by the hardware team for years." Sony is in it for the money just like everyone else. It just tends to have excellent long term strategies compared to "some" companies...which will go unmentioned.
Is that really what gamers want? If so, we only need 1 game system with terrible quality and nickle and dime at every corner.
Sony didn't make PS3 out of any sort of conviction for our entertainment's sake dude. They made PS3 in order for you to buy it and put up with the idea of what THEY wanted video game home entertainment to look like in YOUR home.
$$$$ > Fangirl whining. Squeaky wheels always get the grease once they've lined the pockets in cold hard cash.
Remember when the industry used to be about pushing boundaries and creating the absolute best game possible? And knowing that sales would sort of gravitate towards these kinds of games that pushed the envelope? Yea those were good times. I seem to remember a certain company called Squaresoft that rejected the Nintendo 64 for their new game called "Final Fantasy VII" because they were not willing to compromise on their vision they had for the game. And the Nintendo 64 simply did not offer the space requirements they needed to fulfill their vision for their game. I miss that company. Everything went downhill as soon as Sakaguchi left.
If FF13 is not up to the standards set by the past chapters, it's because of poor development on the part of SE, NOT because of any limitations on the 360's hardware (lowest common denominator as you call it). How is it that SO MANY other developers are able to create stellar, highly rated games - both exclusive and multi-platform - for the 360? It has NOTHING to do with any perceived limitations on the 360's hardware - if a game fails to live up to a standard, it's the fault of the developer and the developer alone. SE simply wasn't up to the task this time around. The 360 is more than capable of running great games - SE just couldn't deliver in ways that developers such as Bioware could. Maybe they should look at some of the great 360 games that exist today, and see what those developers did right.
"Obviously it was for money because they knew PS3 owners wouldn't bother buying it. It's not ideal when you create a masterpiece and nobody appreciates it, so SE gave it to an audience who would." LOL thanks for the laugh dude! almost 2 mil sold in Japan alone! I know it's exclusive over there but you're up for a rude awakening because less 360 gamers are buying FFXIII than their usual shooters! so, who's really not appreciating here? trust me, when March NPD comes out, FFXIII on 360 won't even sold as much as what Borderlands did in its 1st month! maybe borderland's too high, make that Prototype!
Took 'em 4 paragraphs to just say "money?"
I believe it was more how the PS3 was struggling back in 2007 and 2008 and SE were worried they will not get their budgeted sales on the PS3 so they covered there bases.
all your base are belong to us
That would make sense if square didnt make last remnanat, star ocean, and infinite undiscovery 360 exclusives. Especially since the 360 was dead in the water in japan where the ps3 could have sold tons of copies of star ocean.
'and we agreed to soil ourselves witht eh 360 platform for the cold hard cash. We now feel like dirty little whores.'
it was financial to be sure. the ps3 wasnt a sure bet. BUT if namco are stupid enough to make tekken 7 multiplat, or ff15 multiplat from square, my god id hate to imagine how poor the games will look if they DONT return to their exclusivity roots.
i wouldnt worry about ff15 being multiplat, i'd worry about FFVs staying exclusive
tekken 6 was in 576p resolution on PS3 but 720p on PS3.........you do know that dont you? namco should make tekken 7 exclusive to the 360 so its not being held back by the PS3 lol. and yes, that last sentence was obviously sarcastic. the first one wasnt though, tekken is not even 720p on PS3.
Namco had a big thing going with microsoft in japan. tales of vesp, air combat, Idolmaster(lol)and a couple others were all 360 exclusives. Well in the end sales were down like 80% and they had to switch to multiplat.
"tekken 6 was in [576p]* resolution on [PS3]* but [720p]** on [PS3]*.........you do know that dont you?" " tekken is not even [720p]** on [PS3]* " -»[ ? ]«-
typo, its 720p on 360 not PS3. my apologies.
Both versions of Tekken 6 is 576p. It's only when the motion blur is turned off, the 360 version goes to 1365x768 without anti-aliasing, while the PS3 version without motion blur stays at 576p but with 2xMSAA. In a sense, both versions aren't that great technically.
lol answer me this question - does Tekken 6 run at a resolution of at LEAST 720p on the 360 AT ALL? yes you say? of course it does. does the PS3 version? no. never. 576p only. so in conclusion - 360 version runs in >720p, PS3 version runs in <720p. not disputable.
Wada: Of course we really hated Sony and when MS offered us a huge sum of money for our games it was a deal made in heaven. We get to backstab Sony in the back, but unfortunately we alienated a lot of our fanbase.
"Backstab them in the back" Is there any other way?!?
I guess i overdid the joke.
that wasn't very funny at all. sorry.
Ok ok it sucks i admit it, I guess im really out of it today. Its really hot today and i guess my sense of humor has gotten dry.
You know you're awesome at stabbing when you can back stab someone from the front.
I think i just owned myself for telling a stupid joke.
N4G paid them. Nothing keeps 'gamers' coming back like comparison after comparison.
haha, that wouldn't surprise me either.
Fishy wins this round
$ Until they redeem themselves with something of FF7 quality SE is dead to me.
The quality is dead ever since they merged. There are a few games that were excellent dragonquest 8(last great core jrpg from square enix instead of the trash they call ffx-2,ff12 and ff13),Twewy(Great use of the stylus by nomura) kingdom hearts 2(not as good as 1 but enjoyable) But ye the only games that im looking forward to are dragonquest 9 and ff13vs. Which i hope stays exclusive cause else they could call it Final Fantasy13vs:the lost content.
MajestieBeast...so you have already finished 13? I mean you would have to have played through it already to make that assumption, right? Because otherwise you would be talking out of your a$$ by saying a game is trash without actually having played and finished it. So I'm just going to assume that you finished a 60 hour game in about 30 hours.
"...they could call it Final Fantasy13vs:the lost content." LMAO!! It's funny cuz it's true. Hahahaha. Bubbles for the laugh. :)
well don't be shock when they announce FFvsXIII to be on 360 on GDC or e3.. well another gimped down ff series if that happens
I am beginning to think it's not MS's fault FF was gimped it's square after they said towns take to long to make and they would only remake FFVII if it took less than a year. They are just lazy now.
"it was a beautiful monday morning and suddenly the mail came in with a fat envelope full of money, and then i said to myself - hey, i'm in a mood to make a xbox360 port..." :)
lol, funny stuff. too bad sony played the role of the patient mistress hoping to be the wife one day. i wish sony used their money wisely, instead of wasting their cash on first party exclusives they should of wasted it on getting the third party exclusives and the dlc. f.ck lbp, uncharterted, killzone, demons and mgs. i wanted 360 to be dead last and my ps3 to be number one. i hate you sony, you ruined playstation for life. and now this arc nonsense. i really hate u a lot.
obviously snuck dev's into squares headquaters and built the 360 version from the ground up
Square-Enix did it for the money and Microsoft just throws it around like it's nothing, it's disgusting. Thank god Sony has no interest in money and developed the PS3 just for us gamers.
u'll get a lot of disagree's/loss of bubbles for other fanboy posts, but this particular post is very true. this is business ppl. i know to a lot of u gaming is entertainment (and so it should be), but to the guys developing and publishing video games it's just a business like the ones u may work for/own (although judging by most posts on this site i really doubt a lot of you are old enough to have jobs other than maybe a paper round)
I guss it was ment to end like this "/s"
if that was the case, all of them would end up like Enron, or have as many law suits filed towards them like MS truth is, yeah sure every company wants money, and they are all dirty but to say they are all equal is bs, look at Activision, is everything they do "ok" because they are a business and its NATURAL for them to want money? NO making money is fine, and doing some bad stuff fine, but constantly low blowing and cheap shooting? not excusable I agree though about this, this deal was clearly a sign of what not to do they made 360 for the money, but look what came out of it a half assed un-cared for package i bet you SE could have done a better job w the 360 version if there was more time to it
"i bet you SE could have done a better job w the 360 version if there was more time to it " yeh i imagine they would have, but i'm sure 360 gamers would rather have the game than not... the ps3 version is easily the best but the 360 version is by no means bad and is still a great game.
Of course Sony are about money, all businesses are, to think otherwise is just silly. Why do you think the original PS3 had so many more features than the slim. They were losing too much money on those features and had to cut back. Everyone is calling out MS for buying up games but Sony did the exact same thing in the PS1 days.
Peeps murderdolls gets disagrees regardless of what she says.
i really dont know the logic what MS does have to do with SE desission. There are 40 Million 360 owners by the end of 2010 so its logical that the FF franchise went multi. YOu retarded kids sound really strange whenever you say that MS has to pay for something. Iam a PS3 only Owner but i have to admit, that the XBOX is a VERY STRONG machine this gen. You droids also said that MS paid Rockstar Games to get GTA4 on their console, lol. (But GT4 sold more on the 360) There IS NOW REASON for ANY DEV to take money from MS.. the devs move alone to the 360 plattform cause MSFTS machine makes money.
Iam a crapbox only Owner but i have to admit, that the PS3 is THE STRONGEST machine this gen.