What must Sony do at E3 to finish 2007 with a flurry?
Not watched it yet but last weeks was good so this should be good too. Sony needs to show us lots of new things at E3, new things that arent labelled "Coming Soon". Stuff that we will get not long after E3 cus i havent got much to play on my PS3 until September tbh.
Its time for SOny to show us More.
The most important thing Sony needs to show us is PRICE CUT! Not 100 bucks, not 150 but 200 dollars. 399$ sounds ok for what is Sony offering wright now. If they wait until mid 08 for price cut, i am afraid it is going to be to late. We never know when is Microsoft going to cut price and if they do so around December this year, price to be 199 for premium, than i don't know what can Sony expect with their 599 price!?
For me personally before all the games that are to be shown during E3, i want to see price cut.
Cut the price to less then the Elite. It's a better system. It just lack game which will be changing. A price cut to that of the elite level will help put the PS3 back on track.
It won't happen before the end of the year.
It would help sales but there is no way.
Just show me that my box wont continually overheat and break and Sony you'll have my heart...sigh
I know exactly what your saying, and there has already been full programs dedicated to this on the main channel's in the UK, then people wonder why it's not selling so well over here, this is one main issue that Microsoft needs to deal with and all there trying to do is ignore it and actually at some tims give really ridiculous answers like saying just be glad about are customer service? sorry but it should work anyway...
Um...the PS3 has had virtually no hardware problems.
No my point was that all Sony would have to show me is that their box is not like my radiator 360 and they'll have my heart. I am sick of my 360 breaking.
This is their last chance to give everyone that, "OMG I HAVE TO HAVE THIS SYSTEM" feeling. It all comes down to E3 and for the sake of the 360 (competition feeds quality of the overall makret), and for the sake of Sony, I hope they deliver.
If the PS3 is capable of Killzone2 trailer then it's worth $600 even more. It's plain and simple, people want SOny to prove them that the PS3 is 2 times more powerful than the 360 and if Killzone is not mindblowing people are just going to say that the extra $200 is not worth the small upgrade no matter the special features or better hardware. Once they establish the undeniable PS3 power, we can all go back to it's all about the games. I hope I didn't offend any 360 fans, I do own a premiun and an elite but I'm just hoping for a better next gen experiance. Can someone give me some bubbles plz
there you go
I agree FPS's is a very popular genre and what Sony needs to do is come out and show what is capable from PS3, why killzone has had so much money spent on it and just basically produce a must have game AA, being there holding an event that is 2 and half hours long for just that one game I think we can safely say we'll all be impressed PS3 fans and xbox fans alike, I just know and I think everyone else knows that if it wasn't really impressive there is no way they'd give it it's own event they'd just try and slip it in quitely with there other games...Roll on E3 when we find out what CELL is reallt about...
Well spoken. Bubbles for you.
PS3's getting raped when it comes to how powerful consoles are, Sony needs to show the PS3 isn't 2X's as powerful and focus on honest marketing to restore the honor and respect Sony once had.
Sony needs to be honest and say we have a great console but its not the super duper console we said it was.
They need to tell people why it cost more and they need to tell people its because our console comes with an built in HD player. They need to stop with the" its more powerful fud when people know more powerful consoles own the competition from day one.
" I do own a premiun and an elite but I'm just hoping for a better next gen experiance. Can someone give me some bubbles"
^^^lieing POS who are you kidding. lol
Yeah seriously, if Killzone doesn't look like the trailer, or even close to it...I'm buying a 360.
"They need to tell people why it cost more and they need to tell people its because our console comes with an built in HD player"
They do say that...that's why blu-rays are selling so much but, average gamers want to play games first, and good ones at that. I agree with the guy when he said Sony shot themselves in the foot when they showed the Killzone trailer and said it was all real time. They should have never set the bar that high...seriously the game HAS to look like the trailer they showed. Even Final Fantasy XIII looked good but not as good as the Killzone trailer...the gameplay of FF13 looks like it's able to be done, but the Killzone trailer eh....we'll see at E3.
it is a good point though that Sony wouldn't put it up for 2 and a 1/2 hours of scrutiny, if they didn't have something at least close to the trailer...Sony knows about the hype of the game this time around, because they pretty much put themselves in it...the original Killzone was hyped by mags and websites just hoping there would be a ps2 fps to go up against Halo in quality...Sony, however, did nothing to hype it like they have with killzone 2...it got the same attention all their bigger 1st party ps2 games did (ratchet, TM:Black, GoW, all shared similar tv spot amounts with killzone...not one of them was pushed more than the other)...
But killzone 2 hit the scene with skeptical eyes watching BECAUSE of Sony this time...and Sony knows they have to deliver...I don't think they set themselves up for failure at all though...they just HAVE to show us stuff we haven't seen...if the things like light shining through bullet holes in buildings in realtime, the untoachably advanced hit detection, and use of volumetrics rumors are true...which is all stuff a console hasn't done before...then the media focus of the game will shift away from comparing to a 2.2 year old trailer, and start focusing on what innovations and technology this game takes advantage of...that is the only reason I am excited for E3...I just want to see what they came up with...and if the game ends up being good to, thats great...
The 360 is due a price cut considering the lifecycle of the console it should have happened before now, microsofts press conference is before sony's at E3 and I think they will announce a price cut that will be effective from then which will put alot of pressure sony's conference.
sony have allready said there will be no price cut this year so if they do they will face the wrath of early adopters because they went back on a promise or if they don't an ms do they will be left behind like the xbox was by the PS2
Great Ep. What they said was all true, but there is nowhere a notice of Heavenly Sword.. i think its a killer ap if ya ask me.
Sony is obviously going all in with this game and WILL exceed the trailer. Like Ngai said, Call of Duty looks reaaallly good, almost as good as KZ2 E305 trailer, and Killzone 2 has such a huge budget, it's definitely possible for themto achieve that trailer. The Killzone dev has been quoted saying "We'll shut up some critics." They're obviously confident that they will exceed everyone's expectations and so am I. If you have a HUUGE budget, a development team(SCEA) that has the best and most access to the best tools and technology for PS3, and a device like PS3 that has sooo much potential and quality in it, it's obvious that potential can be unlocked, and will be unlocked. July 11th - Critics, and XBOX fanboys shutup. July 11th - Killzone 2 WOWS the world.
Then the Halo 3 30 mil. + will budget will make it better than KZ 20mil.
Edit: disagree all you want you illiterate fanboy. There is nothing to disagree with.
You can't compare development costs like this, because we do not know enought about what marketingthat budget includes...
the Gears of War 10million dev costs that we heard about did not include Epic's development costs on the Unreal 3 engine...a brunt of Gears of Wars development was being done anyway, through the development of that engine...Epic kept full rights to that code, which means its terribly unlikely that MS put a lot of money towards that part...
and the rumored 30 million for halo 3...we were never told what that included, because one source said that was combined development and publishing budget...MS made a deal with pepsi to have a Halo type of Mountain Dew this fall...You think thats cheap? Companies don't just say..."this is how much we spent on actually making the game"...they clog it up with all the other apsects going into the franchise...
and Killzone 2 is the same right now...it was told by an outside newspaper source that the "development" costs were north of 20 million...so is that just creating the physical game?...or does any of that money have roots with marketing and advertising departments?...it shouldn't, being that all of those are more or less "publishing" issues...but we have never been given official information on these matters...
More games (RPGs mostly), quality games only possible using the PS3's advanced technology, a price reduction, and for the games showcased too below people away.
PLEASE restore my BUBBLES. I've done nothing wrong and just because I support the PS3 my BUBBLES should NOT be taken from spite! Thank-you.
it's lame to ask for bubbles like a begger.
" Whats lame " is for some immature fanboys to take your bubbles out of malice & spite! I guess your one of them.?
They don't sound like they care about any PS3 game.........
All that means is Sony needs to spend much more money to get the same results thus some devs not wanting to dev for PS3 or not taking the time and money to match a better preforming 360 multi platform title etc. I'm thinking KillZone 2 will be a large game(lots of gigs) filled with tons of CGI cutscene movies on a Final Fantasy Advent children" scale thus the exspense.
don`t you get sick of it.
Just one more week huh
Then I am sure our questions will be answered.
Yes it's pricey if your a person who wants to buy a console but doesn't know WTF the console does, the power and features that it offers, but if you're a gamer and fully understand that the PS3 comes with a CELL chip (new technology), Blu-Ray player, backwards compatibility with the PS2 and the original Playstation, PSP compatible, full High Definition with 1080p and many more, then you'll know that the PS3 is one hell of a console behemoth.
It's true and understandable that the PS3 really doesn't have good games as the PS2 but I remember that when I bought my PS2, the only good game that it had for the time of its release was Oni, Onimusha and Tekken Tag. I waited months for better games to come and it came. The same thing is happening to the PS3, just give it time, that's all that it needs.
People just need a reason to dump their PS2s for a PS3. PS2 is cheaper and making really good games, and it plays standard DVDs and everyone is happy (and the controller has rumble which I dont care much about but other people do). Not many use their PS3 to go on the internet, people can listen to music on their but mostly it's used for games, and the PSN isn't full-fledged enough yet and is a little under the radar with everyone. For now everyone is cool with a PS2...:(
I believe in the Ps3, but the one thing they need to do is really distinguish the Ps3 from the Ps2 or any other console for that matter.
They show what the Ps3 can do that the others can't. Only then will the Ps3 seize victory.
except for a couple of winks from N'gai, SNE got raked over the coals by the entire panel..lol I thought Satterfield was going to start fighting a PSP for a second. a/w most of what they said was true; however the guy on the end (can't remember him) seems a little inept when it comes to tech stuff (doesn't know how to sink his BT headset w/ PS3??) so I didn't pay much attention to his comments, but for Satterfield to say that he thought KZ II wouldn't come out for 5 or 6 years after the '05 E3 is quite laughable. I mean look at COD4 ~ that game looks unbelievable and I think Guerilla is just as capable with a staff of those proportions. So yes we will see. Has SNE set themselves up for failure w/ the E3 KZII trailer? No (every company is entitled to target render even if it is CGI, but SNE shouldn't have lied in the first place; that's really the issue here, if it was a ploy: helluva job. If your're trying to be sneaky then sneak ~ not getting caught is the number one rule. Have they set the bar so high it might not be reached? Yes. Will we all be witnesses if Guerilla delivers a gem - dandy @ E3 in a few days? Yes.
As far as SNE and E3 '07 goes it going to be a wierd, wild ride I'm sure; I just hope they can deliver or else it's going to be 360's year for sure in '07, save some major shocker that we can't see. As my friend Ray Arnold from Jurassic Park would say, "Hold on to your butts...."
PS2 owners = silent majority of nex-gen console consumers.
Does not everybody who has a cellphone that has bluetooth and has a headset know how to sync their bluretooth headset with their phone? Its the same way with the PS3!
And you can use any bluetooth 1.2 or 2.0 headset with the PS3.
You are right this guy was just picking bones at the PS3.
you are right maddens. 115 million or whatever the number is at now for the installed base of ps2 owners are anxiously awaiting to decide on a next gen console. when prices drop, it all depends if they stay with the sony brand or go with microsoft.
I jUsT want that Mother F***er god damn KILLZONE...
IT MUST BE so much better than we expected... F*** it must be better..
I want to shoot to everythin in display and they react realistically ...
F*** I want MS to put their God damn money to make better games..
SONY must Beat them in e3 , yes 600 Bucks is enough for Bug free and relible hardware with unlimited features..
I want 100 games like Mass effect, MGS ,Gears,God of war, KZ , HEAVENLY SWORD, Uncharted..
not few.. hell yeah.. game industry must grow up .. billions of dollares must come to us.. WE MUST plAY MOVIES .. not just SEE THEM..
GOOD LUCK SONY .. make all gamers happy .. even ur Haters..
this E3 must be for SONY , next for MS and so on.. I just want their money , not 150 Million dollar for advertising Bravia LCD.. or billions of dollars for F'in windows Vista..
Calm down baby ... it wont happen anytime soon .. :( ... Keep ur blood Pressure low babe.. that will hurt u
now i know why gametrailers is crapp
chubby grown men in there 30's talking about games........nuff said
A little like pre-teen nerds like yourself taking girls.
Sorry couldn't resist.
Shut up losers Sony doesnt need your advice stupid virgins with no life.
at least they know whos their daddy... (j k)
dont insult others kid.. Hope is a good thing .. if u cant have it.. let them do it.. may be after e3 they goin to be a Loser... but anyway we must JUST wait and see..
U must hope to see them crying after KZ show and we hope to be happy after that..
the difference is u r a HATER and we arent. .. I call u kid becuz u act like that.. make some bubbles , even with ur opinion , just change ur words and dont INSULT..
I agree with N'Gai, based upon what we saw of Call Of Duty 4, a multi platform game, Killzone 2 can meet the expectations. Exlcusive have usually greater graphics than multis, like Ninja Gaiden (Black) (Xobx exclusive) or God Of War 2 (PS2 exclusive).
I also agree with him about Sony thinking rather analog instead of digital. I hope during E3, Sony really delievers.
I'm curious as to why there's so much hostility regarding the editors/consultants interviewed on the Bonus Round. The fact of the matter here is that the gaming industry is a very profitable and very wide-reaching sector of the Entertainment business. While this is important for the gaming businesses themselves, (Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft), most importantly it's extremely relevant to investors, which is why you see individuals like Pachter.
You can disagree as much as you'd like with their opinions, but their points, and the motivation for the criticism isn't hostility. It's more of an analytical take on what businesses need to do to stay on top, and enamor consumers and investors alike.
Sony isn't infallible. Microsoft and Nintendo aren't either. As a matter of fact all three have outstanding issues they need to resolve to be the dominant player. Who resolves them first will likely take the lion's share. So constructive criticism from business analysts is really a good thing. They're drawing a road map to success. Every comment they made was constructive, there wasn't a single issue they brought up that couldn't be resolved in the near future.
Listen, I own a PS3 and am not disappointed in the slightest. I personally feel that visually, Killzone will meet high expectations. They're not oblivious to critics view of their CG trailer, so the fact that they're essentially front-lining Killzone at E3 tells me that either they've hit the mark of quality, or they're incredibly bold.
My confidence in Sony is two fold. They have an excellent history, but most importantly, this generation, they've made the greatest attempts so far to resolve their outstanding issues. They've cleaned up their image, addressing firmware issues/features, have been working to build their library, working on a comprehensive online solution (Home/PSN) and have made several public statements that they're aware of the consumers needs and criticisms. They're the only company so far that has made very open and public confessions of their mistakes.
We've all heard it before, acceptance is the first step to recovery. And I think Sony's acceptance of their mistakes will play out well for them in the future.
They should bring back N'Gai on his own next time like say after E3 his knowledge is so way above these other guys
just like last week and this week they are so overwhelmed by his comments i mean the other guys just talk about what we know and its just like the same old comments and stupid things like i dont about bluetooth headset noob alert
next time bring N'Gai and maybe the annalist makes better show
I agree that Ngai is best of that group, but i don't agree that other 3 guys suck. You are either some black racist that hates white people or you are an idiot.
All 4 guys are different, different character, persona, charisma....it give color to and variety to hear what 4 similar yet different guys think. Its fun and cool.
when did i say anything about race
and i also said maybe the annalist the dude on the far left should also comeback and do a show
and when did i say the other guys suck damn
it seems to me your the one with the race issue problem
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Could you please stop posting the same sh!t in every single thread?
Some things that struck me, they make it seem like PS3 doesn't have Grand Theft Auto IV also. How do you stay in the battle against Halo 3 and Gran Theft Auto 4? Maybe Killzone 2 and Grand Theft Auto 4?
They don't seem to think Killzone 2 can take away any of Halo 3's limelight. If Killzone 2 doesn't look great then why does Sony have it's own special event planned for it? With the hype around Killzone 2, if the game looks up to par with Gears of War or even better it's gonna fail because of the trailer? I gotta see that to believe it. Me as a gamer,I already know the trailer wasn't real, but if a game looks like Gears of War, I'm gonna wanna play it. I'm not gonna be pissed and say "no" because I'm pissed off you decieved me with that trailer.
I also think Blu ray needs to be a factor this year, that's the other big issue, if people buy HDTV's this holiday and start becoming interested in upgrading to HD video, the fact that PS3 comes with Blu ray already could make the price difference seem more forgivable.
Those are the most important keys to me, if PS3 is gonna stay in it this year.
Its actually a very good and to the point video. It explains Sony's pros and cons in its marketing. No company is perfect when it putting a product out the door and into consumer hands. The PS3 just needs some more games, and they coming. I'm sure all gamers alike will enjoy all the awesome games coming out (regardless of platform) in some way or form.
lol that tw@ couldnt link his bluetooth headset with the ps3, its sooooo simple...
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