Microsoft said Friday it plans to release a new music and entertainment player and accompanying software under the "Zune" brand this year, in a belated attempt to challenge the dominance of Apple's iPod player.
Move music from the player to the PC. I hate that about my Ipod, I re-formatted my HD, and now my ipod is stuck with my "old" mp3's on it, because it thinks its a different PC. I know there is software, but unless you pay for it, you can only do like two or three songs. Apple's Copy Protection is way too stringent, If you buy a new PC you cant add or remove songs, its basically dead.
...so this may be my MP3 player... then again, I've never really needed one.
so its ok for microsoft to copy itune's online music store, but it not ok for ps3 to copy xbox live's online gaming service? microsoft just want a slice of any market that is doing successful. I mean they saw how much money sony was raking in with the playstation, so the xbox comes trotting along. Then they see how much money apple have made through the ipod, and the zune slugs its way over too. One problem though. Microsoft copies evryone else TOO late
I wish MS the best of luck. I can't stand the iPod. It is probably one of the most overated consumer electonic devices out there. There are half a dozen other MP3 players out there that cost the same but are better devices. I am excited to see how MS's device will sync with the 360.
teenagers think its cool because its shiny and has a cool scroll wheel thingy
Do you just make this stuff up? I have yet to see another mp3 player that can hold the same capacity as an ipod (60 gigs.) Other than that, I have only seen 2 others that can hold even 30 gigs. I don't even know if those others can play video (they very well may.) On top of that, how many other mp3 players offer even a quarter of the accessories the ipod supports? None. Just wondering where you got your info. I'd love to see the Zune kick Apple's ass though. If it's as good as it's making itself out to be, I may even get one, but my ipod can kick ANY other currently manufactured mp3 player's ass right now. Period.
You forget Apple was nowhere near the first to do any of those things. Just as an example- Archos, the first company to do a lot of things in this space has the AV500 that has 100GB, Video, 4" Screen, Direct encoding etc and the PMA430 with PDA built in... Apple don't offer anything particuarly special at the moment other than th accessories, which I agree is very hard to beat, but MS has contacted the manufacturers of these things and is getting them on board. Apple never innovate anymore, it's time somebody take them down a few pegs- not destroy them but Steve Jobs is too big for his boots.
Instead of being a PSP or even DS like device, this new "combined media" player will show video clips, let you listen to and manage MP3's and other music files... and also let you play any Live Arcade game you have purchased on the go, at no extra charge. This seems far more likely to me that the multi-media mess Sony made of the PSP...
yea i am probably gunna just wait for this sucker to come out and buy it. might as well, for what people as saying what it can do, it will be a good handheld, and a sure purchase for me
iPod will be hard to beat, I love my 360 ut I don't think ill be swapping my Nano for the 'Zune' :(
i have a creative zen sleek photo which is 20GB hard drive, it can hold 10,000 songs on its own and it can hold photos, have FM radio. it cost my dad which is a birthday present, £109 was the price as it was half price, its full price would have been £218 which is better than the Ipod. Ipod is full of hype as well. Zune will beat down the Ipod. good luck to MS, they're gonna need it.
sorry for this double post but many other MP3 players before the Ipod could of held 30GB and 60GB. heres the link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
I love my nano, it's small and portable, I agree that Ipod's may be over rated, but their still a very cool device, look at the playstation, it was the first and people continue to stick with it... so people buy loyalty...
I still seeing them siting in store with no attention for it... almost a year already and they only manage to sell only 5mill system.. WOW, such a pathetic # and what's more pathetic than that is that they're hoping for 10mill when ps3 launch. LOL, how sad could this ever be. ahhahaaa To think, the 360 can't even outsell the ps2. What make you think it going to beat the ps3? LOL ahhaha now that is just Saddddddd, ahahhahahahha.,
lol they`r running a one man race and claiming to be the fastest...
race started when the 360 launched! it's not MS's fault that the competition weren't ready...
"The company has strong momentum for the Xbox 360. In its fiscal fourth quarter, which just ended June 30, Microsoft sold a quarterly record high 1.8 million game consoles, raising its total sales to 5 million globally. Microsoft has sold 3.3 million of the popular game machines in the U.S., 1.3 million in Europe and 400,000 in the rest of the world since its Nov. 22 launch last year. During the holiday quarter last year, Microsoft sold 1.5 million Xbox 360s, increasing sales to 1.7 million during the first three months of this year. Microsoft also met its sales forecast for the game machines. Last year, the company forecast it would sell between 4.5 million and 5.5 million consoles by the end of June, 2006, and it succeeded despite some early component shortages that hampered sales."
I just bought an ipod (nano) for my wife. I was going to buy one for myself but I think I will wait for Zune. Why? Possibilities. 400MHz (More than the PSP), and Windows Mobile. Possibly we will be able to play XBox live arcade games on it. I'm sure someone will come up with emulators(NES, SNES, Genesis). Also it will support .Net framework.
Yeah that would be cool i was thinkinin about an ipod but if this does everything the ipod does and plays XBLA games then i think ill wait...can you imagine playin castle crashers wi-fi that would be sweet
Theorizing are noting going to sell the 360, just because it sold well when it launch doesn't mean it going to sell well as the years progress.
oh yeah, because that makes sense. i expect the sales will get even larger as the PS3 flops and everyone drools over GOW and Halo 3. And exclusive gta4 content.
The ps1 and ps2 only sold great numbers when the price went below $200. The xbox 1 due to having expensive hardware had a price disadvantage over it's entire life. The xbox 360 and ps3 offer the same experience gaming wise but the xbox 360 does it and a couple hundred dollars less. Look at the screen they look roughly identical with the xbox 360 looking better since developers are more familiar with the hardware. The xbox 360 will also remain at a price advantage over it's life cycle since it's components can be scaled down and therefore have it price reduced.
You 360 fans think that your 360 will outsell the PS3, but can't even manage to outsell the PS2... "PATHETIC" GeOW? UT2007 crush that slow game. Halo 3? Killzone 3 will also Crush that lame game (in graphic, story, and gameplay).
Your comparing a game which will sell out on the Xbox 360 to a game that its best features are on CGI made videos. Oh and also to a Flopzone 3 game that hasnt even been announced yet. As a matter of fact, I dont even know what has happend to Flopzone 2. Have you seen anything lately, hmmmm,NO, oh what a shame. And the only reason why Xbox 360 isnt outselling PS2 is well umm lets see: PS2 - March 2000 Xbox 360 - November 2005 Thats 5yrs.+ that PS2 has been out and 360 has only been out for like 9 months. wow, quit living in your moms basement, and pull your head outta your @$$ and get to reality. PS3 may sell 2 million at launch, then after, I dont see any selling at all.
Today I got together with a few friends (7) to play video games (PS2, XBox, XBox 360). We started to talk about games coming out for the 360. All my friends though we all own PS2 want a 360 (I already own mine). 3 of them said that they were not going to buy a PS3 due to its price. The others didn't know the Sony was coming out with another system. 2 of them said they were going to buy the wii. Only one of them knew about blu-ray and 2 about HD-DVD. Try this yourself, and you will see that blu-ray and the PS3 are only known and wanted by Sony's hardcore fans. PS2 != PS3. Just because Sony can sell PS2 (due to price and games) it does not mean it can sell the PS3 like the same way.
Bladestar- I had a similar experience the other day, I was amazed, I really expected a lot of people to know of S3 and Bluray due to the excessive Hyperbole Sony likes to use but many didn't want PS3s this time around and only knew about HDDVD- I thought it was an anomaly. I merely mentioned the next Pro Evo game coming to the 360 and may decided they wanted one there and then- which is pretty impressive, anybody who wants to even the score a little should advertise that it seems. And Jesus I wish that Sony fan would learn to type English properly.
Killzone 2 is on the psp and Killzone 3 had been anounce already for months. Hey what do you expect from a limited mind like your to not know. The only reason Halo sell well on the 360, simply because it only have one hit titles. When I was talking about ps2 outselling the 360, I'm talking about month by months and not years. From the moment the 360 launch and up untill now, they still are lossing to the PS2 in sale. If you wish to state some opinion please do so with fact and not some BS from your lil fantasy world.
Jeez why do you have to start flame wars it's not getting anywhere ffs?
Perhaps he should spend more time with hooked on Phonics, as opposed to these forums. Why do you think the PS2 is presently outselling the 360? Could it be......PRICE?? The PS2 retails for what a buck 29, the 360 is 399. Big difference!! Log off the forums, and log on to P H O N I C S! Repeat after me, "I will learn proper english."
This kid must be like 10yrs old. He doesnt even know that Flopzone 2 hasnt even come out yet, and your already saying that Flopzone 3 will be coming. And no, the reason why Halo 3 will sell out, is because all the true gamers, you in which arent one, all want to know what happens in the end of an epic story and battle that has been going on since 2000. Also, Halo 3 is not the only good game coming. Heard of Gears of War, Mass Effect, Forza 2, Fable 2, Shadowrun, Too Human, Bioshock, F.E.A.R., like c'mon. What does PS3 have besides "This Giant Enemy Crab" and a WWII shooter with aliens. And before you start having a spaz attack, Halo yes is a battle against Aliens, but it is a Sci-Fi Shooter, not a WWII impersonator, like Resistance. So I think your the moron here, who doesnt know sh!t about your own Sony Fanboy system and its games coming out. You think Flopzone 3 has been announced. What happend to 2?, must have secretly disappeared into the Abyss, cause it sucks @$$.
xxx557xxx, that is funny, another sony fan boy that is brainwashed. how stupid would that be if there was a killzone 3 but no 2. you cant even compare gow to ut. gow owns that game easy. halo 3 will crush killzone 2 or 3 or what the h3ll is coming out. you are a moron, and little kid that is brainwashed by sony's lies. who the heck cares about killzone, wasnt that game suppose to be the halo killer. but never lived up to its hype, i think that is how it goes. and a year ago they announce killzone 2, but has there been much news about that game, umm no, barely any. halo 3 will crush that game killzone in every way, gow will be right up there with halo 3. so dont bring up a game that barely has ne news on it. just focus on getting a ps3, because there will be shortages, just like the 360, so good luck with getting a ps3.
xxx557xxx is bragging on Killzone 3, stating it will be the greatest thing since sliced rice. Well lets rewind and check the history of these dev houses for previous titles. Killzone 1 - POOR reviews on almost all sites http://www.gamespot.com/ps2... Halo 2 - Glowing reviews on almost all sites http://www.gamespot.com/xbo... Now xxx do you REALLY deep down think that Killzone 3 is going to be better than Halo 3? Do you really think that Guerilla games is going to blow out Bungie on this one? I will let the cards fall where they may. History is the best lesson, and will almost certainly repeat itself!
Why don't you two learn how to read before you BS on a website. You still stuck on Killzone 2, when I told your stupid ass of where it at and you stil l stuck on it. You must of been a lil 4 year old that can't comprehend what I just wrote. "HyperBear" why are you naming bunch of lame games for? Who on earth would want to play that pathetic POS? Oooh wait I forgot, there are bunch of moron whom is siting in front of there lame-box right now that want to play thoes pathetic games. You two are just a sad moron. haha
Hmm, xXx557xXx... If you're going to flame people for being like children, then think about what you say. First of all, it's Killzone 2 that's coming out on the PS3. Killzone 3 hasn't been announced yet, as they said. Do a little research before you start bullsh!tting. Also, for someone who thinks they're 'grown up' then your grammar and spelling certainly don't show it. I mean, what is with this sentence; "Oooh wait I forgot, there are bunch of moron whom is siting in front of there lame-box right now that want to play thoes pathetic games" Before people scream fanboy at me, I just want to say.. I'm not. Simple as. But... The Xbox 360, as I see it, is definitely the way to go for a gamer. The PS3 and Xbox are just about equal in terms of power etc. PS3 has more features (unnecessary for a gamer) and costs more. I'd rather (and have) go for the 360. Also, if you REALLY think that it's Killzone 3 (that's right, THREE) that's been announced, then link me. Because I've seen nothing that proves that. Anyway, this is about the Zune. Not PS3 vs Xbox 360. If you want to argue about this sort of thing then do it in a news item that relates to it.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles... Link for dummies. Like I said before, GET YOUR FACT STR8.
He finally got one right. That's a good start 557, but it is only a start. Unfortunately, this has no place on this particular comment board, so I'm not gonna count it.
"If you wish to state some opinion please do so with fact" You said that didn't you? Well, how about linking to an official announcement, because you've already said that it was announced months ago. What you just linked me to was rumour and speculation.
PlayStation 2 hardware didn't fare as well, dropping from 2.5 million units at this time last year to 1 million units. Microsoft sold a quarterly record high 1.8 million game consoles, raising its total sales to 5 million globally.
Are you a moron or are you just a lil kid? It seem like your brain process very slowly and stupidly. How many link do I need to post for your stupid moron to shut up? lets give it one more try and see what happen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... "Killzone: Liberation & Killzone 3 are still in development. Killzone: Liberation is to be released for the PlayStation Portable, and Killzone 3 is said to be released on the PS3." KJillzone: Liberation aka Killzone 2...
Listen! I asked for a link to OFFICIAL confirmation. Not to wikipedia, which can be edited by anyone. It's not a trustworthy source. There has been NO OFFICIAL (ok, that's the freaking key word here. I want to see offical word from the developer or producer that it's called Killzone 3.) anouncement that his is Killzone 3. You can't assume that because a Killzone game is coming out on another platform then it's definitely going to follow chronologically from that. Take GTA, there is already about 6-8 GTA games released but the next one is GTA4. So, have you got any OFFICIAL confirmation, because if not then what you're saying is worth nothing.
Damn, I though stupid people can't get anymore stupider than this... I think you should shut your moronic befor it get even worse than this. You are one stupid mofo. I give up on your stupid ass... I think i should not give a sh!te what the fawk you say anymore... You're just annoying lil moron. Is your IQ 0.1? I'm just wondering? Because it sound like you're that stupid.
Ha, so you're giving up because you can't find anything official. Exactly what I thought. But seriously though, to stop arguing for a cause that you believe and just come back with abuse. That's pretty low, and childish. All I want is an official comment that it IS Killzone 3 not Killzone 2. It's more moronic to tag an insult to the end of every post than to just argue about what you believe. Or, infact, to just post an insult when you're wrong. Seriously, if you really know it's called Killzone 3 then link me to an official confirmation, then I'll quit. But until then, I'm right.
I mean, I get it now. So apparently Flopzone 2 for PS3 is now changed to Flopzone 3 just because of the stupid ass Flopzone for PSP. WRONG.here buddy go here you dumb moron: http://www.ebgames.com/prod... Now I dont know about you, but If my reading skills are right, and yours arent, I see Killzone 2 for PS3. You see, what your dumb ass mind has left you thinking is that the Flopzone for PSP was 2 and the new one for PS3 is the 3rd one. HAHAHA, See believe me, even I hate PS3, yet I seem to know more about whats going on with PS3 and their games than you hardcore Sony Fan-fukers. Oh, and I cant wait till you play games like Genji 2, and play "Giant Enemy Crabs" and playing with your rubber ducky in Eye of Judgment and think your cool. And notice, how xxx557xxx is the only mentally handicaped Sony fanboy that is sticking up for Sony, and everyone else is going with Xbox 360 and Wii for that matter. I wonder why that is?. Look at the fact buddy, You and Sony go together. Both of you are stupid and both of you lie about stuff. Congrats man, your officially an ASSHOLE.
and if you try typing in Killzone 3 in the search box at ebgames.com, itll just take you to Killzone 2 for PS3. Just so you dont have another spaz attack and talk about BS that you dont even know your talking about. Your IQ is: -99999999999.999999999999999
sorry MS youre in the wrong territory. First you get your a$$ whoop in console (by SONY PS) now you want your a$$ kicked again??? It must be bored with all your money.
good to see you agree Sony copied MS's online service. How good is still very questionable.
i never said they didnt copy xbox live because its blatently obvious sony HAS copied xbox live its a great online service and considering how long its been out, it should be easy to copy. Plus its free But it looks like microsoft copies too, wow SHOCK
shadow PS3's online is free according to Sony but developers have the right to charge for multiplayer. And from the incredible costs it takes to run a worldwide server you can bet your boots they will charge and you will pay. their free service is MS's free silver. Also I didn't know if you said they didn't copy it I was just stating that for people who do refuse to believe it.
some developers will make us pay for games i know. But i still stand by the fact that pc's provide a great online gaming experience and its free. So who says sony cant make a great online experience thats free? Especially since they can use xbox live as a template Oh, i know who would, TheMart THELANDOFSAND The Real Deal Jay the xbox bummer Cyclonus Sir Nathaniel Hyperbear haha
it`s a flop machine too late for it
Does the brand name "Zune" bother anybody else? I think it is a stupid and innane name. What is it supposed to mean? I think I hated the name "Wii" less than "Zune" when I first heard it. This name will not grow on me easily... Seriously. WTF is a Zune???
Knowing that they can't win anything in the world lol.
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