Looks like Natal's aiming for an October release, according to Jonathan Ross who attended the celebrity reveal of Project Natal this evening.
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im pretty sure natal will have soooo many AAA games lol...i bet you cant wait to jump up and down waving your arms like an idiot while hitting balls with your head...sounds like something you would do anyway
lol have fun playing crappy 5 min "oh wow next game!" games... ps2 had natal... its called an eyetoy... and one last thing... natal wont change anything... it will barely sell 500k this year... its way too expensive at this crisis time...
Let's compare AAA's (over 90 score) XBOX 360 Gears in 2008, Forza 3 in 2009 and ME2 in 2010. That's 3 in 3 years. PS3 LBP, MGS4 in 2008 Uncharted 2, killzone 2, MLB 09 the show, GOW Collection in 2009. That's 6 in 2 years. 360 has no games.
huh I thought Demon's Souls won many Goty awards... At leats for gamespot it was game of the year. I that's not triple aaa then I don't know what it is. L4d2 won nothing. And HALO ODST went down the drain! lol What else the X360 has to offer anyway?
lol, bots are pathetic
who would want to play that!? I have no desire to look like a fool, nor do i have the room in my house. Thanks, but no thnaks. I'll stick to playing heavy rain on my pad...
Sounds more like wiimote version 2.0 to me pal. You say you have no room? your in trouble then when it comes to Heavy buttons. Waggle Waggle.
"Sounds more like wiimote version 2.0 to me pal. " How does heavy rain have ANYTHING to do with wiimotes? At all? I do not even KNOW what your refering to, but if its to the arc, then isn't natal just Eyetoy Version 1.5?
But to tell you the truth, if it comes up short in the hardcore gaming genres then it won't ever grace my entertainment center. I have a Wii for the kids and don't want to repeat the waggle for no reason. Same goes for the Sony Arc.
I agree, waggle works great when it's used as an extra axis, or the equivalent of having one more button on the controller - like Killzone 2's sniper-adjust. There have been far too many games that could have simply used a controller normally, but they had to shoehorn in waggle as a gimmick (De Blob is one of my favourite Wii games, but it would have been so much better just using a controller).
“Natal on Xbox [is] impressive,” the presenter said. "Not quite there yet"
Good job SilentNegotiator! You just reviewed the entire article. Do you feel proud now? What's your take on Natal? Is it gonna suck? Too bad it wasn't made for the PS3 or it would be seen as the best thing since sliced bread. Natal will work. Maybe not for the hardcore games at first but it'll happen eventually. I'll be happy using it for the menu's until i see some decent games and not all this demno stuff that the fanboys are going wild over.
I can't wait till Natal comes out!!! Not expecting it to be perfect, cuz it's obviously gonna have some lag. But still going to be brilliant nonetheless! I can already picture how much fun we're gonna have when I break it out during my house parties!!!
I also have a Wii for the kids. I think I played bowling on it twice the first week we had it, and haven't touched it since. I keep thinking maybe I should pick up Metroid Prime Trilogy and see if there's any redeeming value to the thing at all, but then I think "I could spend that $50 on something I know I'll like on the 360." I anticipate that if Natal is under $50, then I'll probably pick it up for the kids. I don't anticipate that I'll use it at all unless I can turn it on and off via voice and use my finger to navigate the Marketplace and dashboard menus. Other than that, I prefer a controller. But when you're 42 and still gaming, you're old school. :-)
K-lan-why do you think using Natal to navigate menus to be better/easier/more efficient/quicker or any improvement over pushing a couple of buttons that ARE quick and accurate already? I'm not having a dig at all and it might be a big improvement but I just fail to see either how it will be OR why it needs to do it at all. At best I think people might use it while it's a gimmick but go back to buttons when they realise that that's just the best option for doing things like that. I just think there's things buttons will always be best for. Certainly Natal is still a big mystery and a bit laggy(though less than it was which is promising)andcould well have a lot of great uses we haven't even dreamed about yet and I'm not writing it off or knocking it before I've tried it in any way but by the same tken we can't get too excited before we see something a little more taxing than that dodgeball game running less than optimally. Knowing MS they're keeping their powder dry and I hope that proves to be the case. I also have to say I'm intrigued to see how both Natal and the Wands finally answer the question of how you get round bigger gameworlds. Sony NEED a nunchuck style second controller and and Natal will need something completely fresh to do the same job or risk not being able to do many types of game. A lot of answers are needed and more questions keep emerging all the while, imo. Roll on GDC/E3 and conference season and a little clarity to add some meat to the bones of our nascent opinions on the matter.
@witchking, please, PLEASE rethink about getting metroid prime trilogy, it is worth every penny. they are some of the best games ever created, and thats just fact. you definitely have nothing to worry about if you go and buy it, and its 3 games for the price of one, you cant beat that.
This casual stuff doesn't interest me at all. If they can apply this technology to real games in a way that actually makes the game better, sign me up. If not, I'll still have no reason to buy a 360 (though Fable 2 and 3 are starting to tempt me).
1. The lag is still there 2. At about 31secs there is a "BAM! There it is" glitch 3. Notice how far away from the TV everyone has to be for these demos... my living room is not that large just FYI. 4. The only way people seem to be able to hit a ball in this game is due to them throwing out 15 of them at a time so that some of them are bound to hit you. To me as a gamer that feels cheep and requires next to no skill. 5. They still are not showing anything new since E309... at least Sony has given us this. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
So what you are saying is you're FOS and just a bitter PS3 fan? http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...
No I'm a gamer, been one for 30years. Get a second bub then come at me son. As a gamer I enjoy casual, mainstream, and hardcore games. However, nothing I've seen of Natal impresses me... and as a gamer, lag = death.
Even the Wii has buttons - because doing everything with motion is just silly. ..Why wouldn't I just go play an actual game of basketball instead of waving my arms around in front of a screen like a goon?
Sony already have natal it's called PS Eye, been out for a number of years as well. As for the video, shows all the reasons why people will get fed up with it. You see the guy is stuffed after 2 mins of playing, and then a chick is saying see it's ok but if you have to shift all your stuff around to the edge of the room just so you can play a game with natal it's going to be a pain. Just think of what it'd be like playing CoD via natal you'll be stuffed after a few mins, and some people would be playing it for hours straight on a controller.
The more I see this, the more I find it hilarious. I appreciate everyone has different tastes and views etc, but I just cannot see why anyone would do this, really.
I know this comment won't be popular but to be honest, seeing this guy jump around and flail is arms around is the saddest gaming moment I've seen since Wii Music (Myiamoto pretending to play the flute and Ravi pretending to play the drums). I think this will be great for kids and casuals but unless they show some complimentary gameplay to hardcore games with a regular controller, count me out.
The last thing i will want to do with natal is use it for jumping about like that game - what i do want it for is the other stuff such as interface control, mic, facial recognition and the extra depth that things like that could add to games. We shall see.
Coming up next, we ask what Ali G thinks about War & Peace. Article title should also mention the quote "Not quite there yet I think but they have until October and if they get it right". Also, I like the comment in the video: "lag time will be reduced by release to near-instantaneous reaction". A lot can happen in 7 months, but I'm worried if they haven't even got a Bat and Ball simulator working right yet, how will it handle more complicated games? Nintendo had Metroid 2 working well with the Wiimote, several months before release of the Wii.
you understand that woosy is a comic book geek, you know what they are like ! plus it was only a tweet it wasnt a PR public interview or anything I think his view carries alot fo credance
Ah then the fact a Tweet was report as news is the problem.
Most likely the natal cam was the same one from E3. Also there is nothing wrong with that games but just getting natal to respond faster.
The whole concept of losing the controller fails. Jump Out, Play B3yond
trust me Jump Out, Play B3hind
"Jump Out, Play B3hind" ^^ by that right there means you must be a Wii fangirl.. you ppl are HILARIOUSly rediculous. btw doing better then,doesnt mean its going to be good still lol,fool. JUMP OUT AND PLAY B3YOND THE WAGGLE and LAGTAL!
then natal will own it. ;)
Mc, are you stupid or just retarded? You effectively have just labled yourself as either a wii or PC fanboy in how you phrased your sentence: "Jump Out, Play B3hind " You are effectively saying jump out of the xbox, and if you use the PS3 your playing behind. Which means you don't like either. Therefore you must either love the wii, PC or don't actually own a console and just like spewing random things out of your mouth... EDIT: "If its anything like the wii, natal will own" How exactly? In sales? When people think MC they think Wii, why buy a 360 AND Natal JUST to get motion control, when you can buy the very, very cheap wii which already has a massive back catalogue of games. Even a few years after natal launch, I fail to see how it will push many consoles. And also if your phrasing the Wii owns, GTFO. I have a Wii and my PS3, I haven't touched my wii in over 6 months. Yes I do have it, I can even take a picture if you don't believe me. The wii is full of crap shovelware apart from a few rare exceptions Hell even some things in Wii FIT are bad for you (for example running on the spot). Just GTFO MC now, while you can. Please.
Have we seen any videos of it doing anything other than Burnout, the Paint game, and this Ricochet game? Just trying to think
i think that MS are playing their cards very close, it wouldnt make much sense to reveal everything so soon and give your competetion chance to one-up you, revealing everything right away would leave sony time to come up with something even better. Same reason sony hasnt revealed anything, if they had shown a game, microsoft would have had the time to try and show them up i just hope that both are working on something mind blowing nintendo however just carry on as usual, not taking any interest in the competition, and raking in the cash
Hopefully Ninty are also upping their game(and I feel that if Sony and MS want to stand on their toes with the MC gaming stuff they should try to regain a little of the older pre-Wii gamers they've lost to the other two)and will have something up their sleeves so they don't risk wasting the great position they got into. They've let position slip before through not watching what the others do-so they should know to be careful at least.
But I was just weondering if we've seen any other gameplay styles, is all
Since when did Jonathan Ross' opinion matter to the gaming world? Or the movie world for that matter ;P The lag is still there, the fanboys are still claiming it'll get/has gotten better and the fact still remains that even if they do iron out the glitches, theres no real gaming application for this other than gimmicky crap and wii clones. The tech demos were all rubbish and the 'families playing' ads were all bullshots also milo is just plain creepy. Theres no proof that either motion control devices from microsoft OR sony have any kind of new gaming potential but at least sony have 1:1 control, which won't stop microsoft promoting this thing with 'celebs' on youtube/tv/intamawebs/billboar ds/burned-into-your-retina-with -a-laser until we want to puke. Show us something working!
"Oh well, If Jonathan Woss thinks it's impressive, it must be!" for your information Jonathan Ross has one of the largest collections of retro and modern consoles/games in britain than anyone I know, he is as much of a gamer as any of you here, is opinion is very valid trust me. Edit: BTW if his opinion does not matter then yours don't either.
Being a collector does not make you a connoisseur. You're talking about a guy who thought the film Batman and Robin was awesome (his review made the poster). And yes, I'm well aware that my opinions are meaningless on a website designed for community comments about games.
3rd times a charm for news.
Haters can hate,hell i hate it to but man this will probably give MS a victory in this gen race with Sony...
Yeah cause i mean the casual crowd will buy this even though they own a wii which is cheaper and has better games. I think this will just flop as much as the eye toy.
I know a lot will disagree with this but you be sure this will SELL AS HELL.I mean they are even now advertising it like crazy and when the release date comes close adverts will be every 5 minutes. Alot of casuals wont care if it lags,even though it is not deal breaker but all big publishers have announced working on alot of titles.3rd party will support it much more then wii,and to be honest this is much more then eye toy,it never had any support and this cr** has all the support in the world.It will have casual appeal,MS money for advertising and enormous 3rd party support,it cant fail even if it sucks.
it probably will as you say. But, I don't really care as long as 360 don't forget hardcore fans like wii did. I mean, Wii is winning and we don't even care 'coz it's more targeted to different audience. Do you guys ever think that what will happen if natal really takes off and becomes another version of wii ? Like I said, as long as they pump out decent number of games that I'd like, I am happy for them and me :) But as of right now, I have no idea what games coming out with Natal.
MS has said that they will treat the Natal launch as if it was for a new console. I believe they will sell it bundled from the get-go at a very affordable price. That way they can attract a wider audience of gamers who might not have been interested at first but will think "Hell, since I got it in the bundle I might as well try it out".
In the past, accessories haven't sold well. I believe MS will package this with every 360 sold starting in the fall/holidays. That will be the price cut this year. The question is: how do they get this into the hands of every existing 360 owner? It's gotta be priced right, and it's gotta have something compelling. Does this mean 360 wins? No. Does it help keep the 360 relevant beyond 2010? Probably. It means MSFT recognizes that they can only sell so many 360s to the hardcore crowd interested in Halo, Gears, Forza, etc. They are hoping to tap into the Wii market. The question is, if someone picked up a Wii because it was the thing to do, and they haven't played a game on there since buying it, are they going to do the same with a 360 just because Natal is attached? MSFT is betting on "yes."
Crapbox sells, yet it's still built like crap. Difference is Wii controller & Sony's Motion Controllers work. LAGTAL doesn't, and don't work well with all genre's. Why do you think both Ninty & Sony opted to use different tech, both Ninty, Sony did R & D in tech very similar to LAGTAL, both were rejected cos of LAG. But you gullable M$ monkey's wouldn't know decent tech, if it bit you on the arse. Jump Out, Play B3yond
It's just not only this person that thinks Natal is "impressive." Many top developers have stated their excitement on what Natal is going to bring to the gaming table. Real next gen here folks. No more last tech motion sticks.
HAHAHHAHAHAH!!! suuuuuuure buddy suuuuuure x)
Really we are so beyond next gen with Natal that we decided to make you flail your arms around with the SYSTEM MENU. AAA GOTY BEST GAME EVAR!!! It is the ultimate hardcore experience. You want Halo Reach with Natal? Why not something so mindblowing like a GUI. We already have the killer app of the NXE and we are kicking it up to extreme gear with Natal Support with Confirmed Achievements and Xbox Live. Now you and your friends (who you never met) will be able to flail their arms and legs Across the globe in NXE with realtime stat tracking and leaderboards.
Tell that to true 3rd party dev Travellers Tales or my eyes that an already see that the Arc thing will be better for games. How come all the 360 fans that moaned and derided PS3 for lack of vibration feedback,are now fine with MS having no feedback controller. I've said it before and I'll say it again.Name me 1 really good game idea that would be better on Natal than on Arc/Wii?
Can you simultaneously and FULLY use a controller with Arc? Last time I checked you can with NATAL. Funny...the Arc is supposed to be out BEFORE Natal, but I haven't even seen one game for it yet other then their own demoware. Maybe the Sony supporters should spend less time worry about Natal and more about the lack of info coming from Sony (other than rumors). E3 is a ways away...maybe best to stuff the rhetoric until then.
I could care less about arc and natal. They are both gimmicks meant to lure in the casual gamer. Unless either Sony or Microsoft can prove to me that their 'innovations' can really improve upon my experience to a great extent, I see no use into buying the products. I see both of them going through what I like to call "the Wii syndrome". Everyone plays it, "OMG THIS IS THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD!" 1-2 months later, it's on top of their tv's collecting dust and getting no use. You realize that it becomes a nuisance to navigate the UI with hand gestures, or waving your 'wand', whatever. I'll probably get a million disagrees, but that's the truth whether you are a fanboy or not. These fads come and go as quickly as they came.
Oh its dated alright...
"Being a collector does not make you a connoisseur." He's not just a collector, he is mad on games, him and his wife and kids play games all the time, he is just as well qualified as anyone here to have a valid opinion, knowing what i know about him and how much he likes games his opinion is very valid to me, if he did not like Ntal i would have been genuinly worried, but so long as you are happy to say he knows nothing about games and it makes you feel better then more power to you, but you are wrong, I would trust Jonathan Ross's opinion over Patcher any day.
I'm not disagreeing that he isn't a gamer, or that he knows a lot. It's just he's far too easy in his opinions either because he's easy to please or (cynics would put it) to please the hand that feeds him. MS and other companies will continue to let him play demos like Natal, as long as he says nice things. He has done it in the past.
What amazes me is EVERy Natal article/info/whatever that is posted on N4g....here come all the naysayers. IMO...thats MY opinion. Natal has a better chance of suceeding then failing. If it was just a wand like the Wii and Sonys thing I would say it has a stronger chance of failing. For all the ppl who say.."Oh I dont want to be jumpin around flailing my arms"...I have 2 comments 1. Most of us who are older wont be playing games that require us to jump around etc. I can see more kids and energetic teens playing these types of games. Next time you see a kid playing the Wii....they jump around etc as if they are using Natal tech already LOL! 2. What interest me and SHOULD interest YOU as a gamer is the use of NATAL .....WITH THE CONTROLLER!!! That is what im hoping that DEVS are gonna do. What differentiates the Natal from the Wii and Sony Gem is that NATAL can be used WITH the controller....that is soo interesting to me. Right now I have the fragFx controller that has the Wii like dongle for ur left hand and the mouse in your right. The fragfx has sixxaxxis support and u can just shake the dongle thing to reload or whatever. So I think of some of the things NATAL can bring to the table are HUGE ..IF ...thats a BIG IF....the DEVS think outside the box and push forward with the tech that NATAL uses.
I am simply pointing out that Ross knows a lot about games, yet somehow people who come on here think they are the almighty experts when clearly they are not.
Oh look. ANOTHER vid of that sh!tty dodgeball game. Do they have anything else they can demo?
probably nothing they would want to demo to early as siyrobbo said in a few posts above. show your hand early and you cede any advantage you may have over your competion. MS aint stupid and i dont think they pay much attention to n4g comments. They will be showing off games for it at e3, why show anything before then? sony isnt but then sony isnt creating much awarness for their wand niether. where are the wand tv spots and celeb quotes ? thats good marketing on MS part.Jonathon ross is popular in the uk .alot of parents and grown folk watch his show. wether or not it lives up to its potential is another question that ONLY time ( and the devs working on games fot it) can answer.
um of course they cant because this game still doesn't work properly look AT THE LAG PEOPLE!
Haha Project Anal is gonna bomb,why the hell would any gamer wanna play game with out a controller?!You will end up look like this while playing it...
Don't be ignorant. Its not going to be meant for "gamers." Its meant for the casual players who has a wii but currently no desire to buy an xbox.
"phantom dissagrees". Nobody here has seen any natal games to confirm how good/bad it is,so they think its better just dissagree for the sake of it.you are right though jonathon ross is a huge gamer.i guess some people have a hard time believing famous folk can be gamers too and if they are they must be talking about the wii...some people on here are so simple minded. as for natal.i hope it turns out to bee good. i like new toys so im hoping this thing will give us as gamers a reason to purchase it.In the meantime ill sit on the fence .i wont write off natal or thewand since i ant tried niether.common sense.
Im on the fence also..because I have NO CHOICE...I havent used NATAL. And neither has anyone on N4G. Natal has alot of potential. And as a gamer I hope it suceeds. And the DEVs use the tech in MANY MANY ways that CANT be done with the Wii or Sony Wand. Until then let the haters hate LOL!!