CVG: Designer blames himself for 'insane' over-complication of Fable I and II.
No, you're a great developer Pete, just stop overhyping your games. -_-
What was overcomplicated about either of those games? They were good fun! And talentless? Please. Fable 1&2 were two of my all time favorites from this gen and the last, and Populous is a friggn classic! I remember playing that game to death on my Amiga. And did anyone else play and love Syndicate? Bullfrog studios was in a class all it's own back in the day. I don't even blame him for overhyping his games. The guy's enthusiastic about his creations. I wish I was in an career where I felt that excited about my work. I think the problem was that gamers and the media somehow translated his enthusiasm into hype. Hell, I wish more developers were as passionate about their games as Peter is.
Keep your head up Pete, and do all you can to bring your visions to life.
Well, looks like I didn't even have to attempt to troll today.
I think he's just excessively creative and doesn't think about being practical with his ideas. Who knows, at the time he might have believed the hype himself.
Great....evident by the Fable series. Just stop over hyping your games and we'll all be okay! =)
Speechless. He's a master. A jedi.
Old Greg...bubbles for you dude, I hate the f'ing kid.
lol oh man this guy is hilarious.
He always praises his game before they are released, and then goes on a crazy rant after they are released. Its like he says...my last game sucked, but you have to get the next one...then when the next one comes out, he repeats the previous sentiments.
I personally think this guy has lost his touch TBH. I don't think he's made anything amazing since Black & White. He used to make games that didn't need hyping up as they spoke for themselves i.e Black & White and Populous.
I predict that he will commit suicide in 2012.
Fable is an awesome series Peter! You are a fantastic developer, who just gets a little too hyped about your games.
... okay... I too loved Fable 1 and 2.
In Fable 2, equipping was broken... the whole inventory experience was tedious and proly one of the worst menu systems I've ever ran across in recent years.
Fable2's inventory was about as awesome as ME1's elevators... I loved both games alot... but I woulda cut those aspects down/out.
My main gripe about the Fable games is that the endings typically suck. I play and love and live and kill and enjoy ...and then at the end there's just a "MEH ending"... grrrrrrr... thank god Fable 1 got the Lost Chapters cuz that ending made up for the original Jack of Blades crappola, imHo.
... so... Molyneaux... just make the endings worthwhile and you're golden.
You can't call your self "talentless" after coming up with games like Theme Hospital and Dungeon Keeper. It's already too late for that.
If go back and read some of the first articles for Fable, you,ll see not one game ever created to this date even comes close to the original plans for Fable. I think it'll still be years before we ever do.
We know.... glad to see the man is coming to his senses. However the people behind him and his games are geniuses. As far as Im concerned the only credit Pete gets is the recognition that he ruins his games, not the people who work for him. The man needs to have his lips stitched together, and then just maybe... Fable 3 will be able to deliver what Fable 2 promised... though i not getting my hopes up.
I just think he needs to shut up about his "visions" before his games come out. He hypes people up and lets them down constantly. People would enjoy the games more for what they are if he just stayed quiet.
he tends to say to much or over promise and under deliver and still not getting fable 3 if you need natal, oh yeah and last but not least make the ending unbelievably epic biggest let down this gen so far
HighDefinition...agreed, he acts as though he is the greatest thing to ever happen to video games. He needs to tone it down and keep his "visions" to himself. Let your work speak for you.
Bloody hell, I think he's got it.
Stewie: ♪ I think she's got it ♪ ♪ By Jove she's got it! ♪
There now doesnt it feel good to tell the truth for once Peter.
PETER IS A DON FOR FABLE!
He forgot to say that he is a liar because he never delivers on his promises.
What a meltdown.
yeah what he said
Shut up, Pete.
when he's right he's right..
At least he's honest.
Seriously his own psycho-analysis is getting neurotic and everybit as annoying than when he talks about his games . Just shut up Peter , or rather tone it down . Especially when at least for some of us , you are quite wrong . i dont need you to simplify your game , i already find them far too oversimplified
He should just make an MMO, I think that's where his complexity should be shown.
the same will be said about Fable 3.
i think he make some good games...not soo good as he make us believe bfore the release...
I honestly preferred his stuff when he was in Bullfrog.
WoW...this is the first thing this dude has said in years that is NOT overhype and underdeliverable and I do believe him...
...then so should David Cage. Like Fable II, Heavy Rain will be looked back on as a beautiful game, that ultimately went out of it's way to ignore tried-and-true gaming conventions...just to be "innovative"...and ended up being a tedious mess, with a poor control scheme.
^ tedious mess...control scheme... I am not buying HR, because of VALUE, not the points you so wrongly bring up...
Fable 2 is the most sold exclusive WRPG on the market Pete. Just enhance the experiences...a true Co Op experience Hero and Hero not Hero and default Hero.
You do know WRPG is an actual specific genre, not just an any RPG made outside of Japan.
...said Milo to me the other day" ;-D
^^^ LOL. yeah milo is the oddest thing in console history.it reminds me of haley joel osmond in the 6th sense.i imagine turnin on my xbox some day and creepy milo whispers 'i see dead people' arrrggghhhhh (little poo in my pants)
Ah, don't say that Pete - you were great in the 80's and 90's!!
im gonna have to agree with him i played btoh fables and i dont find anything groundbreaking or unique about them maybe fable 3 will actually be good
Molyneux - "im a talentless bas**rd.' That places him in the same category as Greenturd and the Jonas brothers.
When I played Fable 2 and finished it I opted to lose the dog and save the slaves. Once everything was over and the game continued I felt out of place without the animal. Even though I didn't care for him much, he became part of the game. And losing him and continuing the game felt like I was missing out. In essence I believe he subconsciously got me to accept the animal and I think he is a great designer for that. The whole marriage thing was silly and I never did that and the way I see some people play Fable 2 and tell us their wild stories of their adventures, shows that even though it might be niche set of players, there are players out there that really get a lot out of his work. All in all I think he is really good.
the same will be said for Fable 3.
Back when he was in Bullfrog, he was awesome. Black and White 1/2 were great games as was Fable. Fable 2 not so much. Actually, what game has been made past Fable that was good from Lionhead Studios? Another great studio tainted by M$. I can't wait to see the 16 year old Xbox kiddies slobbering all over Milo's banana / berries
He's concept for games are great, but he really should stay quiet sometime.
you got talent pete ... yeah for sure .. YOu just don't know how to NOT OVERHYPE your créations Where was the one touch action gaming that were supposed to be in fable 2 ?
Seriously, I'm so sick of seeing this have something to say every other day.
Theme park, black and white, populous, dungeon keeper, fable this guy is behind some of my all time favourite games This guy should be the official spokesperson for microsoft, for keynotes like E3 etc. he has a great speaking manner, and is very passionate about his medium.
I learned to keep my expectations low, and I enjoyed the game even more. All Pete has to do is stop overpromising bewildered fanboys and let the game stand on its own merits.
Don't try to BEAT anyone else, just do the best the can with what you have. True gamers will recognize the quality on its own without overpromise or hype. The Fable games are good, very good and entertaining IMO. What more can you ask for? Fable on the 360 gets a thumbs up from me. There is quality in the game, the art direction works, and you can tell what the devs are trying to do, even if it isn't perfect... it is still very entertaining.
Good luck on Fable 3, I will probably buy it day 1.
If you never read any previews or interviews with him the games are decent. Read early previews for "Project Ego" aka Fable and tell me it's not a disappointment.
Yes, I agree 100%. Populous was his best game though. He just seems to be sucking more as time goes on, I mean Fable was bad but Milo? How about making a game for adults? And I'm not talking about the peds who will buy Milo.
People just hate Molyneux for hyping his own games...that's all
Micrsoft are the devil they have ripped out the soul of Lionhead studios and Rare and turned then into some disney style lame kiddy game creators.
right from the horses mouth. ps pete i believe you
demon souls on ps3 for the win
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