The HD DVD Group announced in April that it had sold over 100,000 players in the U.S. in its first year of availability. The numbers only represented standalone players, and did not include sales of HD DVD PC drives or the Xbox 360 HD DVD player.
the free copy of casino royale.
Don't forget that all of the Launch consoles came with a copy...
My idea :-)
Then I got fired :-(
Where's Bill Gates at? I thought he'd have some input?
Th eonly reason we backed HD-DVD was to play "Devil's Advocate" in the Hi Def format arena.
We knew that Blu Ray would win if SONY managed to offload a few million PS3s into peoples' living rooms.
But, for the sake of competition in the market, we stepped up and backed a competing format.
If nothing else, it lowered the prices of Blu Ray media and players, and it created enough of a distraction from the SONY-backed BluRay format, that it may have created a significant stumbling block for the roll-out of the new PS3.
We can always create a Blu Ray add-on for the XBOX360 if the consumer demand is there.
If we get enough of you guys imitating the original BILL GATES tool that was on here, maybe that'll steal enough of his thunder, and he'll go away.
I'm having a hard time keeping track of which Bill is the real Bill...
Then again, I guess none of them are.
With Xbox 360 selling well over 5 million units, to say you have sold a 155,000 HD-DVD burners is like seriously embarrassing.
I mean if this was a game they would have to call it a huge flop. But for a HD-DVD add on- something everyone could use, this is beyond just a flop. This is like you can't be serious right now.
Why even announce those numbers. That's like saying hey the ipod did a little over 80 million sold, Oh yeah how much did the Zune do, Uh.. I think it might do one million. - Do you really need someone to point out, that is a huge flop... NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU LIKE THE BROWN... LoL
It's also embarrassing to call them burners when they're not burners. Get off the bandwagon, and finish your oatmeal!
But you have to look at the Playstation 3, which is both so it has a shoein for sure.
The thing that is the studios won't really make that distinction in the long run.
They will look at the greatest number of potential sales, which would be whichever standard has more potential buyers. It'll be "Stand-alone + 360 w/add-on" vs "Stand-alone + PS3".
Nothing's remotely over until Universal steps across (or even straddles) the line. Even then, we can't know what'll happen if there's a deluge of $149-$199 HD-DVD players. I wouldn't count HD-DVD out just yet, though I personally think it's only a matter of time.
PS3 has sold 1.5 million in US alone. With more hollywood studio support for Blu-ray it's easy to right off HD DVD. Once Universal switch that will be the final nail in the HD DVD coffin.
The attach rate is too low for the units to make up the numbers here. Remember right now HD movie company's are working off the razor blade theory. Sell the razor cheap and they'll pay more for the blades. As of now, thats not happening at all. Its Blu-ray thats pulling its weight!
What 155,000 people stupid enough to buy the most pathetic h-dvdead player out there so sad its a dead fortmat and its a waste of money.
probably about 90% of them were xbugs and the avs forums anti-Sony clan though im sure.
What's wrong with u? Why do u (or any other PS3/Xbox 360 fan) hate the other brand. Just play your console/watch the movie format of your choice, and STFU!
who would buy it? oh yeah microsoft xbots gfs..lol..seriously there is no good movie on it..blue ray have exclusivity to almost every movie studio...155,000 xbots screwed ..lol..
Blu-Ray Exclusive studio titles:
HD-DVD Exclusive Studio Titles:
JUST Universal Titles:
People here consistently underestimate the sheer size of Universal.
in my opinion it really makes no sense to be buying these hddvd add ons anymore. They go for about 60 bucks in some areas anyway which is a trye testament to how they sell. HD-DVD is dead. Sony has the upper hand in high def players and they lead sony in stand alone players by approx 50,000 even with their lowere price and the fact that they were out before blu ray. Sony should hit with a 400 dollar player by xmas and then funai could give us 300 and then maybe the xbots who are fightin to keep microsfts hd-dvd alive will regret their 200 dollar waste
A real problem for Sony is they sell competing products. Lower the price on Blu-ray players and PS3 sales will drop. Lower the price on PS3 and Blu-ray player sales (which are slim already) will suffer. Lower the price on both and you have other manufactures (Samsung) angry at you because now they are taking a loss.
I still say this holiday season will decide this war. If Toshiba gets a $200 drive out there and MS drops the price on this add on to $99, it’s bye-bye Blu-ray unless Sony does something drastic.
No dude, It hurts me to say this but Blu-Ray is gonna be here for a while and its probably gonna win. Even if MS drops its price to 99$ and HD-DVD players get kicked to 200$, it means BLu-Ray (stand alone) will go down in price as well, maybe not to 200$ but it will go down, including people still are going to buy a PS3. HD-DVD, which sucks to hear, looks to be getting kicked to the curb. With only ONE studio backing it up exclusively, prob. wont be in the next 2 years or so, and those lack luster sales as well as the whole Blockbuster thing. I hate to say it but it looks like a sure deal for Blu-Ray.
buy PS3 install Ubuntu and use the hd dvd player....duh!
How many PS3" did Sony sell in the US April? Any one know?
I think under 5 million...Dunno really just a guess
Approx. 117,000 units
The avg is around 22,000 units a week.
Now that avg is down to about 21,300 for last 3 weeks of June.
I'm never buying a HD DVD or Blu-Ray player because digital distribution is the real deal and I don't want to feel like an idiot for buying media formats that will be obsolete in a couple of years.
If you own an HD TV, I think you're missing out. The movies look beautiful...it's a completely different experience. I don't own any discs (except Planet Earth, I had to own that one), I just rent them from Netflix. That way your investment is small if either (or both) doesn't make it.
Digital distribution is still a long way away, and you can get some great looking / sounding movies in the meantime. If you own a PS3, you might as well at least rent them. If you have a 360, it's only $200 (or less...there are plenty of deals on it now)
I have an HD TV but I'm tight on money and I do see that image quality for HD DVD and Blu-Ray is top notch whenever I got to an electronics store and see their demo sets but I'm completely satisfied with SD movies and media for now.
And physical money will be obsolete also. Atleast that's what they were saying back in the eighties when describing digital banking...
At $200 last fall, when HD DVD & Blu-ray players were well over $500, this was a great deal and I bought one. However, with standalone HD DVD players now at $300, this is priced too high and they should drop the price to $149 or even $99. But, as someone who owns both a HD DVD player and a PS3, I do prefer HD DVD.
I personally am not vested one way or the other with a next gen format. That said it would be an interesting number to actually have...how many Blu-Ray players currently in the market are actually being used to play movies? I am sure it's over 50%, even at a casual level...but say its as low as 60% due to the PS3 factor, it certainly skews the numbers now doesn't it? Makes you realize just how far off we are from a real winner even at this date and time.
hope you back up all that digital content.because then you will really be an idiot for losing ALL that content when your hard drive crashes.
but really though.155,000 customers bought the add-on.it must be a collectors item in the future.like laser disc.
but it doesn't matter.
toshiba players 155,000
360 add-on 155,000
sony players 100,000
ps3 system 1,500,000
somehow when looking at the numbers,it seems lopsided in one direction.either one hasn't sold ENOUGH.or one has OUTSOLD the other.sony came out later with their stand alone,and sold about as many AT A HIGHER PRICE.but is also DOMINATING the add-on because it's built in the ps3.
310,000 compared to 1,600,000.backed by almost ALL major movie studios.
wonder what the trade-in will be on the add-on for those that bought it?maybe you should wait and sell it on ebay in about 10 years.
EDIT:cdzie1,they can spin the numbers all they want on how many movies per customer.but bluray movies are outselling hd-dvd movies.more studios support bluray,more top movies are on bluray exclusively and companies like blockbuster have "busted" hd-dvd's dreams by supporting bluray with 1450 stores compared to 250 for hd-dvd.
I’ve heard that only 30% of PS3 owners have it hooked up to an HDTV. And if you include PS3, Blu-ray has a 1 to 1 attach rate and HD DVD has a 4 to 1 (movies sold per player).
Think about it, there is a huge difference between “I’m buying a Playstation” and “I’m buying a dedicated player for High Def movies.”
ill just wait for thr 360 blu ray add on
yeah, i see one of those coming out next year.....
we now know 110% there are 155,000 stupid ppl in U.S lol
You forgot about you and I.
Anyway, I think all the great announcements a few days ago on the Blu-Ray side really hit a buttom (similar to my avatar)on some of the bitter xbots. A lot of them probably went out and wasted another 200 bucks on the cheezy add-on to try and prove that HD-DVD is not really DEAD...HAHAHAHA
Hello to all my wanna be's out there...Your skin is thin...HAHAHAHAHAHA
Later LOSERS!!! there is ONLY one Bill Gates.
AND YOU ALL KNOW IT!!!!!!!!
THE PS3 MIGHT be longer lasting... BUT THE CONSUMER PUBLIC HAS A.D.D.!!!
NOBODY WANTS A 10 YEAR OLD CONSOLE!!! HAHAHAH LOL !!!! SONY LOSERS!!!!!!!
Technology becomes obsolete just a few years out, so once the PS3 hits the 5 year mark, it should be "FLEXING ITS MUSCLES" but nobody will care, because PC technology will be kicking it's little black A$$ by then. It's a fact.
Consoles provide an affordable fixed gaming platform that generally sees a life of 5-6 years before its successor is released to take advantage of lower costs, and new technology... Nice try SONY, but technology is growing faster than ever, and all of these consoles will be left in the dust, so-
Buy the console with the best games, for the best price, because in a few years, if SONY doesn't have a PS4 ready, the XBOX360's sequel will be stomping it all over the yard.
Holy sh*t theres more Sony fanatics in here than 360 owners. lol
which is a first because everyone knows this site is dominated by 360 fanboys... (true statement. disagree all you want)
I'm going to throw out a comment that will definitely add fire to the flames (though I do so w/o meaning to): Over a three week period at m store, the HD add-on single-handedly outsold the PS3. (The PS3 has picked up of late, however).
Just an observation. (Also of note, fanboys: We've replaced more 360s than we've sold over the last two weeks. Just being fair in my (unintentional) flamebait).
its not over yet......
and in the end, if blu-ray wins the format war, PS3 still loses the console war.
once 360 gets the price drop which is inevitable this year down to $199, the sweet spot for the mass market. its over. 360 wins. there will be a HUGE jump in sales, one that PS will never be able to catch up to. Maybe PS3 can get to a $199 price in hmmm.... 3-4 years, just in time for the next round a next-gen consoles.
I thought about buying one, not for HDDVD but for the DVD upscaling. But then I thought, do I really want to run the drive plus my Xbox (noisey bastard) just to watch a movie and risk burning out my 360 as well as using twice as much power. So I decided against it. Luckily update 1.8 came out and PS3 upscales now, so there's no need for it (for me).
My brother-in-law is the manager of a WOW store in OZ. They've had the HD add ons since March I think, and they haven't sold one yet which was really surprising to me. I though someone would buy one, but then WOW is the only store I've even seen a HDDVD disc in and the range is really small. It sits on the floor in one stack next to the BluRay stand.
Getting my 40 inch Bravia 1080p today. WOOHOO. Cant wait for games like NGS and Lair in full HD.
the "Samsung-LNT4065F-1080p-L CD-HDTV" is much a better deal the the Sony Brava's.
This TV is highly rated and probably a $1000 cheaper, and should match your PS3 like wht on wht rice..lol,and and is as shiny too. I'm going all black, tha tincludes the ELITE, PS3 and this TV. Too bad my Wii will be the ugly duckling of the group, I even have a blk psp, and DS lite.
Right now, I'm waiting for the prices to fall a little more before making my purchase. This is the Bigger brother.
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About this Article, the numbers still show, somwhat of a promise for HD-DVD, if the support started flip-flopin and more dual players start to come out, as well as a Major price cut, and Walmart. Well that's the only way I could see HD-DVD , to start turning the tide.
I think the Blockbuster move, was not as big as people made it out to be. These formats are so new, that right now, they do not matter as much, as people would make it out to think, when you take a look at DVD.
Nice to see another South Park avatar on this site.
I know Samsung supposedly make great TV's, comparable to Sonys but I dont know. I'm sure they're good but I guess brand recognition still counts for alot. I've never had a Sony product that wasn't top quality. My 68cm Trinatron lasted about 13 years before it finally died. I guess its a cas of "I dont knows much, but I knows what I likes."
Besides I saw the very same TV hooked up to a PS3 playing an Ant Bully BR and I was a bit gobsmacked. Its hard to get impressed these days as we're all so blase but I think it was the best picture I have ever see. I cant imagine how good Lair is going to look on this TV. Also since I'm selling my Toshiba 1080i I am only paying half of what the Sony is worth and I'm getting it under cost price as well. One tiny bit of bad news, I just found out I have to wait a week or two for new stock. :(
Thats me, if I lived in Southpark and was on Deathsrow.
I've been looking at the same Model Samsungs for a while now. The bravas, I've been hearing, have this "cloud" effect about them during dark screens. Name brand can only take you a long way Bathy. Do some research before spending so much money.
Samsung has come a long way...
I wish Sony WOULD get busy releasing more games just to preoccupy
these bored Sony twibuses..........hence slowing down the infestation
of them on this site!
if you were forced to play RFOM for the 6534th time, would you?
How in the world people can say HD-DVD is dead?!! Ok,ok,... You're telling me that Blu-Ray is the winner just because you own a PS3?!! Blu-Ray is a winner because Blockbuster will support it more?!! Wow!!! Ignorance at it's finest!!
Here are the real questions...
How many Americans own a HDTV?!
How many Americans own a stand alone HD-DVD player?!!
How many Americans own a stand alone Blu-Ray player?!
These key factors right here matter the most. Just because you have a PS3 dosen't mean Blu-Ray will win a war when it really haven't begun yet. Blu-Ray & HD-DVD are still at small numbers in North America now. You have alot of people out there that don't care for Hi-Def movies at this time. And if Walmart comes out with a $200-$300 HD-DVD player, the HD-DVD tide will shift more. It's real sad that for another reason the PS3 system is mostly for movies than for games. 1 million plus Blu-ray players out of 80 million Americans and you call a winner now. You people killing me now!!
More people are calling the format war due to the trends. To a prospective buyer at this point it would be hard to make a case on price of a standalone player when BR has higher software sales, has more studio support, and now more retail support.
Why the hell did you have to go and make some sense? You're ruining the trend here. Jeebus.
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