Currently running a distant third in sales to the Microsoft Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii, is it possible Sony is batting out of their league in this generation of console wars? Time to shift emphasis away from games?
Granted that the author has already grimly decided the fate of the PS3 (that it should be limited to a Blu-Ray player/multimedia center), he also fails to recognize Sony's biggest and most significant potential market:
The many, many consumers who are holding back on purchasing a PS3 until the inevitable release of blockbuster titles.
What's that famous quote from that movie?...Oh yeah:
"If you release it, they will come."
People are holding out for the AAA "killer app" titles.
I'm guessing a lot of folks are also waiting for a price cut AND the end to this "Format War".
Hopefully HD-DVD just quits so we can all move forward with our nerdy lives.
If/when Blu Ray becomes the standard Hi Def movie format, many many more people will pick up a PS3 in that "2 for 1" mentality.
When the good games come - people will buy it! When any of us makes a huge purchase like the PS3, we want the justification that we made a good choice and having great games will definately do it. Also, a lot of my friends want a PS3 but simply won't pay or can't afford that amount of money for a system that doens't have enough AAA titles. For me, just having it as a Blue Ray player during the game drought is enough for me to hold out a little while longer. With the high price point though, it'll be really hard for Sony to appeal to the masses...not because of it's lack of software our the complex technology but, because it's really expensive;) The hard thing is...if Sony drops the price, so will M$.
shouldn't be posted so much on n4g. The author uses "I" this or "I" that all through the article.
"Granted that the author has already grimly decided the fate of the PS3 "
--gotta agree with you there torch
It's empty speculation, and opinions like this are really no more valid than the opinion's of people commenting on this post.... just because something is written up in article form doesn't make it true.
The 360 can have all of PS3s exclusives and the PS3 will STILL win! No offense to 360 fans.
"is it possible Sony is batting out of their league in this generation of console wars? Time to shift emphasis away from games?"
man he`ll feel stupid for saying that soon.
out of their league.
people said the same thing when Sony came out against Nintendo.
some people never learn.
"is it possible Sony is batting out of their league in this generation of console wars? Time to shift emphasis away from games?"
Since, when did sony place an emphasis on games?
360 wouldn`t have this good line up you guys all talk about.
DMC4.GTA4.AC6 just to name a few.
face the facts, Sony gave you their crumbs and you guys ate it up.
Sony gets great NEW (hear that word NEW) Ips. they will do the same this gen have fun w/ the games i don`t play anymore.
Yeah, TruthHurts, I was thinking the same thing lately. With PS2, we didn't play only the sequels from PS1, we got Jak instead of Crash, GTA instead of Driver, DMC, etc...time to move on with PS3.
With exception of FF, MGS, RE, those are always-evolving IPs.
Anyway, in the article, what does: "until the pledge of the next golden age arrives, according to Stringer March 2008." mean?
While I'll admit the PS3 is not getting the sales one expected this is hardly the case to call it quits now. The PS3 will sell and will continue to be supported. It's just a dream to think that the Playstation name will die for this one console. I think in the end of this gen or maybe in 3 years it'll have a nice unit instal base but it'll be looked at like the PSP. While it sold and does alright for the company it will be always looked upon as a failure. Yet in the end I really don't believe the PS3 is the end of the line there will be a PS4 (if they call it that... silly number system)
can we have this conversation say... next year this time when games have been released?
I agree Violater. This is way to early to call the ships in
since there are quite a few promising AAA titles on the horizon. But at what point do people that are on the fence about which console to buy get tired of waiting? March '08 is quite a while to expect people to wait when launch was November '06. It just seems like the average casual gamer would give in and go with either the Wii or the 360 by that point.
you guys are calling bluray victor this early why shouldnt we call PS3 in the gaming realm a failure this early. Make up your minds is it too early or not. HDDVD is performing about the same as PS3 in relative terms which isnt very well. If it aint over for PS3 then it aint over for HDDVD. I dont care either way I am just laughing at the dual logic used by people in here.
Illbientone...you can't compare the PS3 and HDDVD because the PS# 120million+ people who own the PS2 while there is absolutely no brand loyalty to HDDVD.
The PS3 also has more support than HDDVD.
The PS3 has a great lineup of titles coming in a couple of months that many are anticipating while HDDVD doesn't.
It's truly and apples vs. oranges comparison.
I hope that was sarcasm, because let me say if it wasn't for Sony placing an emphasis on games, you would have your Xbox.
the PS3 not having emphasis on games but Blu ray instead. PS1 and PS2 had a great emphasis on games and that is why we have our Xbox. So check your self before you wreck yourself.
this guy is funny.
...that PS3 has sold more than 3 million without "heap" of good games. let the games come then there will be more buyers. drop the price, it would be like opening the flood-gates.
ya but the other 2 can drop the price even more and look even cheaper then the PS3
Odion, the people that want a ps3 are waiting for a price drop specifically for the ps3. Not a 360 or wii.
Wow PS3 fans defy the laws of common sense to come to their own conclusions. Whats new?
the gamecube was cheaper and still Lost
Who told you that? Of course games matter, if that wasn't the case then Sony wouldn't be a leader in the gaming industry for two decades now would they.
Heck if Playstation didn't had games like Tekken, MGS, FF, GOW, etc, etc. Then I wouldn't have a PS1 and after that a PS2 but, another console where they do have these games.
BUT.....that isn't the case now is it. These games have given the Playstation brand it's current image. And It would be hard to see these game on another console. Therefore I have faith that the PS3 will be a good console since I know that my favorite games are coming for it (and the fact that I can play my old Playstation games on it), and many new games that we are going to hear about this E3.
All I'm waiting for is the price-cut and the release of these games.........And I bet I'm not the only one;)
All I need is just one game, and I'm there, Playstation has time and time again made sure, that once you buy there system there will be plenty, of great games for you to play, I have never, had a problem finding something to my liking on this platform. And I have faith that they will continue to keep up that tradition.
After Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Cracks open the door, then Heavenly Sword, Lair,Uncharted, MGS4, Eight Days, and all the games we keep talking about, over and over again will continue to make sure we stay busy, and keep on buying. This dude is a crackpot.
Where do you guys dig up this kind of bullS***? =D
"Connecting technology professionals" yeh right, mentioning nexgenwars.com pretty much killed that.
I think that ps3 is playing a most important part in hd-dvd/blu ray war than in the console war,but it's only my opinion and sony have already show a great games list
A) Make hard core gamers happy with good story, on line play, dazzling graphics and game play.
B) Market that game as the PS3's Right Hand "YOUR GONA LOVE THIS GAME!!" Just like M$ did with Gears of War.
I like Playstation but not enough to buy it with out a game that defines the experience. I'm to experienced with buying game consoles and I'm no hard core Sony fan.
I think Sony should take Uncharted and pump like 4 - 5 million into marketing and go [email protected]
"The many, many consumers who are holding back on purchasing a PS3 until the inevitable release of blockbuster titles"
Do you mean games or Blockbuster Blu-ray rentals.
The article is rather weak, I mean 360 has lots of games but its been out for much more a year and while PS3 is far from 1 year. And 360's real games showed a year after (Like GOW, R6:Vegas, GRAW2, Crackdown...). Ps3 has the same release schedule.
They totally forgot about the true PS3 games coming in a year after release and lets forget about the whole MGS and FF.
PS3 is still selling without Uncharted, Lair, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet & Clank TOD, Killzone 2, MGS4 and FFXIII. So when those heavy hitters enter the rings, things moght look totally different for Sony. And hopefully PS3 will be back on track. This fall is the BIGGEST showdown of games ever: PS3 exclusives mentioned above VS 360 exclusives Halo3 & Mass Effect VS BIG multi titles like GTA4, Assassins Creed VS PC's Crysis. And there are a lot of semi exclusives like Bioshock, Splinter Cell 5:C & Haze. This fall, its WAR.
If you think about the fact that almost all of the 3.6 million or so who own a PS3 are early adopters and with that many you know when the killer titles come out there will be many more people buying who have been holding out. I believe there are more people holding out for more games than people who currently own one so this fall they could easily sell 4-6 million PS3's with all the good games coming. Most people who have PS2 want a PS3 but are waiting for more games or a price drop and that is over 100 million people so it is a no brainer that the PS3 will be a success.
"I mean 360 has lots of games but its been out for much more a year and while PS3 is far from 1 year" does it matter what the xbox 360 have or didn't have? Do you think that's how the market works? People buy products base on their existance features and options...
Do you always look at the market for new products and say, "I will get that.. because it has the potential of becoming mainstream?" do you know how many new products come out and 1-2 years later are be pull of out the market because that's not mainstream mentality?
I'm not saying that this will happen to the PS3 so.. relax... all I am saying is does not matter what the xbox 360 didnt have back when the PS3 was not around... people will not ask... "excuse me... I am looking for a console that does not have that many good games today, but that it can potentially have good games 1-2 years from now..." they ask, "Which console have the best game and how much it cost?"
Sony needs to deliver now... not 1 year from now... people are just not going to wait another year to get a console. Why should they if there are other alternatives? Sony needs to show some great stuff this year's E3 and they need to come quick. Obviously we are assuming that Microsoft and nintendo will need to sit on their hand and not show anything that can make it even harder for Sony.
Also, "Time to shift emphasis away from games" that would be a disaster... there are cheaper blu-ray players in the market than the PS3.. and they will continue to go down faster than the PS3... if someone wants to play just movies... they may want to get a stand alone device... which probably have a faster most updated version of blu-ray than the PS3 has.
That's simply not right, there are a ton of PS fans still playing their PS2 waiting for games and a price drop.
Mom's and dad's who never played a game might go to the store and ask about prices but not gamers, gamers know what they want, they know the prices and the game lists and trust me there are a ton of gamers just waiting for games and a price drop.
I bought mine on the promise of future releases and I am confident that will get most of what was promised to me (I am a realist I know Sony has dropped some BS that won't come true.) Anyway just my 2 cents.
Don't try to compare the consoles and their games to other products, it's nonsense, the consoles are not like pc's or pc games that will have always a more powerful feature after 2-3 months or a game that requires it...the consoles have their own path of growing that you can compare only with other consoles, it's impossible to have the best games by day one or in 6 months, and if you try say it again you are wrong man. Why the 360 didn't have the GeoW(and not GOW, it's God of War), forza, pgr, halo 3 fable and etc from day one or in the first 6-7 months? Of who is the fault? Of no one, is normal, the developers take their time to make a good game, and will not look to an impatient guy like you that say's(recently) only crap things about a console that he doesn't like. The good games are soon out, and it will be sooner than the 360 did, and people who own or want to own a ps3 knows that.
@Valik21, ofcourse... sure... I speak "nonsense"... The game industry market works the way you say... this is why namco, sega and capcom and other developers anounced they are going to focus on the the wii...
right? Yes... developers are expected to continue making games for a console that people are not buying as much as it make business sense for them to make games for.
And it makes perfect sense for people to buy a console for which games are not available and some developers are removing their focus from.
Yes, I speak nonsense... why don't you explain why the PS3 sells are dropping like there is no tomorrow worldwide? Why are they in the far 3rd place? If people don't care about what the PS3 has to offer today and care only about what the PS3 will over 1-2 years from now... why is the PS3 not selling as much as the wii?
Sorry to burst you bubble... but Price and Games has a lot to do with someone's decision to purchase a [GAME] console hense why it's called a GAME CONSOLE. not WAIT or DREAM CONSOLE.
Where do you think all those xbox 360 owners came from? do you actually think they came out of no where? Most XBox 360 owners own a PS2 and were even fans.... we got tired of waiting... and some of us... desided to get the consoles with the best games instead of waiting until the PS3 catch up....
And when Sony does catch up (If it ever does)... then we will buy the console and benefit from the great games it WILL HAVE. And better yet... I'll probably pay a lot less than you did.. if there is a price drop...
Yes the industry works that way... if for waiting less than a year to have very good games is imposibile and horrible for a console than tell me why the first xbox and gamecube wasn't dead after the first months but continued to sell for years(even if very poor) and most importantly why the many owners of the ps2 was capable of waiting even more than an year to have the first AAA games like FF X and DMC, tell me why? if you say that you are a owner of a ps2 you waited too for a while to play the good games, and if not you did like many people do know....waited for the good games that you wanted to came out in order to buy a ps2. But now is an abomination for you to do the same things, what do you want else?
Speaking about wii, it's true that they want to focus now on it,(and not on 360 or ps3) because it grow fast, it's particular but i think also because it will fade after max 2 years, you know better than me that the Wii aren't in the same league with the ps360...it will have different games with different appeal, but the main games is impossible to not release them on the ps3 or 360, i don't think to see very soon games like soul calibur(the main series), tekken, dmc, res and etc etc for the Wii, the wii will have games made specifically for it or some spin off of these series, not the biggest projects with wii as the main platform. And after all, even if what you said could be true(but it can't be i am sure) the things are bad even for 360, especially because these are japanese companies that are closer to a ps than an xbox (and in japan you know how the 360 is doing). And the last thing, yes the ps3 is last, due to the actual price(the main reason the wii is selling, it doesn't have aaa games) and the few games, but came and say game over to it after 3-4 years not after 7 months that it's out, don't kill it when it only begin to show itself. And i don't care of the bubbles, i will always say the things that i think are right, i don't hate the 360 or wii, i hate more and more the 360 fanboys who always speak crap about ps3.
is that the authors are extremely short sited. Flawed in many ways. Leave all this speculation to analysts who actually get paid for this kind of things.
I just don't get it, how can you look at the PS3 AAA titles coming this holiday season and come to that conclusion. PS2 didn't sell 100 million in it's first year, it took 7 years. The 360 is going sell well to the FPS market but the games that sell consoles are coming to the PS3. It's not about the amount of games, it's about the quality of the games.
The fact is that the PS3 has as many games as the 360 had at launch except the PS3 were next gen ports and the 360 were PS2 ports. So give me a break that the PS3 doesn't have any games, I went through the same thing last year with my 360.
When people buy a gaming console at $400-$600 they make sure to look at the available games but most importantly the future games. The PS3 basically sells it's self with all the features, and I can guarantee that when people are looking for a blu ray player, alot of sales people push the PS3. I used it as a blu ray player on my hdtv so it's a big big bonus for those of us with an Hdtv.
but hes sayin in comparison
360 holiday season games > ps3 holiday season games
WTF! Games make the System, right now there aren't any special sacrificing my rent check games out at this moment in time! Give it time an you'll see a big diffrence come Fall!
Games don't matter for the PS3, Movies do. I think it's clear Sonys position about Blu-Ray being more important than the games. You guys can scream, cry, moan, b!tch, whine, sign petitions or take my bubbles but it wont change the truth, Blu-Ray and then games is whats on Sonys mind and it's killing the PS3.
this gen of consoles needed a higher capacity storage and blu-ray was just the natural choice. i heard a rumor that one nex-console still uses the antiquaited DVD9 format, but I really don't believe it, no company is that stupid.
"According to nexgenwars.com"
Really shows how clueless this guy really is.
At first I was holding out to buy a PS3 until a "AAA" game was released to purchase one, but I just couldn't resist after the 1.80 firmware announcement, and now I couldn't be happier. The machine can do so many other things other than play games that I'm very content with my purchase. I only own Motorstorm, and soon NGS..oh and I'm thinking of also picking up Fight Night. I rented it, and enjoyed it a lot with friends.
If you hate the PS3, it's because you really want one, but can't afford it....HAHAHAHA. Either that or you hate the FACT that it's better then your 360....hahahaha
@toughNAME....I see you're still sniffing my ass-hole...hahhahahaha
"If you hate the PS3, it's because you really want one, but can't afford it....HAHAHAHA. Either that or you hate the FACT that it's better then your 360....hahahaha "
not even gunna say anything...you embaressed yourself enough
in that case, if Sony will succeed on E3. =)
games will still not matter? =))
anyone should know, that only games matter in system success, well 70% - games, and 30% - is quality of system. :)
only games can show power of system, noone will able to prove you how powerful one or another system is, but only games. :)
and if people can wait till their most anticipated game is released and also save 100$ on price cut, WHY NOT? :)
p.s. anyone to help return my bubbles back? thnx. =)
this is a cold slap on the balls
It's quite clear that PS3 has already won Japan so count that 1 out!!!
With the way that sales have tumbled for 360 in Europe it's also quite clear that Sony Will Beat 360 in Europe as well.
So how in the hell do you count that PS3 out??????????????
Because of North America?????????????? LoL
1st off WE ALL KNEW that if Sony was to include Blu-Ray into every console that the console will be expensive. But we also knew that if Sony were to include Blu-Ray that it will prety much seal the deal as it relates to the Format war.
Well that has proved to be true because u can just about put the Icing on the cake as Blu-Ray has a 5 - 1 Lead and last week proved when major retailer Block Buster Video announced they will push Blu-Ray in 1450 store in North America.
So you can give all credits to the PS3 for that =)
Now lets talk about the system...
You were mad that the system had a sucky sucky online system
Then PS3 announced home......
You were mad about the system not having rumble
Then Sony & Immersion made up and a new Controller is in the works
And now your complaining about games????????
Well Im sorry Mr. Bladestar but the console war last for 6 years buddy, and just because Microsoft has a 4.5 Million lead over Sony in North America doesnt mean that sony is out. And no matter what you say the reality is this.........
Metal Gear Solid 4
Final Fantasy 13
Ratchet & Clank
Jak & Daxter
Uncharted Drakes Fortune
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Gran Turismo 5
God Of War 3
Little Big Planet
Plus the Many New Exclusives that will be announced
The Release of playstation home
The Release of the newly announced controller
The Announcement of a price reduction
Even more and better firmware updates
THE SYSTEM WILL BOOOOOOM in sales.
But lets talk about 360 for a moment, whats so exciting about that ????
Halo 3 ??????????? (Been there done that, and the beta was crap
Bioshock (ok this game is competing with Halo 3, and it probably will come to the PS3
Blue Dragon (Are you serious?? This game will suck balls in North America
Lost Oddyssey (It has potential,,,,,,thats all)
Mass Effect (Give me a break lol)
Damn, im already running out of titles lol
Because Grand Theft Auto 4 is also coming to PS3 Devil May Cry 4 is also coming to PS3, and did you ever think about how GTA4 will boost the crap out of PS3 console sales??????? Yes buddy over 40 million copies of the Grand Theft Auto Series was sold on a playstation console. So you can bet millions of fans havent bought a next generation console yet, you just gotta know there going to pick up there PS3 and a copy of the game.
Lets have this conversation a year from today and see how interesting it will be, when the PS3 will be #2 in World Wide Market Share lol
If your going to flash a list like that make sure you pecker is at leats as big as the other guys and not such a baby d!ck.
Thew release of DoW made me to buy X Box 360 cuz it was the game with the quality noone had seen before. According to VGchartsz.com at least 2.5 million people was agree with me (the quantity of sold 360s increased from 5.100.000 to 7.600.000 form Nov 2006 till the Jan 2007) http://www.vgchartz.com/hwc... It is the fact. The rest is just deduction.
If Sony (or any other developer) is able to create a title that will impress gamers the same is going to happen with PS3
Apparently, any Moron with an opinion and a Computer, Can apply for a job for an online news position and post crappy articles without knowing what the hell they are talking about. I mean does this guy even have common sense?
Say you didn't like the PS3 at all, If you made a statement like this idiot did, you would either be joking, or trying to encite a flame war. As a matter of fact your argument would be PS3 needs more games. So do you think Sony as a company would even consider a moronic solution such as this.
I don't even know why we comment on fluff articles such as this one. But Whatever This Guy is stupid, and I can't wait for this Holiday Season. It will be good for all GAMERZ. NUFF SAID
You PS3/Sony only fans are a bit emotional. This is video games people not every gamer sees eye to eye. Not allot of people are on the PS3 right now for some pretty valid reasons. Just stick with waiting until you can actualy say it is truly worth it for every one like the 360.
I don't like these articles. Honestly the game console is doing well, but not as well as its competitors. It looks to hit 5-6+ Million this year with sales. Maybe more if a good price drop is coming. PS3 has games and more games are coming. It just needs sales, most developers are making X360 and PS2 titles instead of PS3 and X360 titles and some are waiting until 2008 when the big games launch. Nearly all the AAA PS3 exclusive games are hitting the shevles in 2008. It seems like the PS3 won't be fully launched until 2008 with the launch of home and likely further updates to the PSN to make it complete. I myself want to get a console before then so I will be getting one later this year. Since in later 2008 the slim models will be out and I like the bulky one better. I like the idea of some good betas for these AAA games before then though.
Why even comment on this article? I like this news site, I really do. Mostly for its frequent updates but also for all the rumors on upcoming games and so on but these articles seem to be put here only to piss people off.
If gaming didn't matter for Sony to turn a profit with the PS3 then they wouldn't be sinking millions into game development. Sony isn't stupid enough to sink millions into something that won't show a return.
wow so is the 360 going to bomb cause xbox crash&burned good to see this site is on the same bullshit
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