Bungie Talks Visual Upgrades In Halo: Reach; Still Not Close To KillZone 2

Bungie Talks Visual Upgrades In Halo: Reach; Still Not Close To KillZone 2 Bungie released a new developer documentary from the X10 event and it primarily focuses on how Halo: Reach will now look like a game that partly belongs in this generation of gaming.

Let's face it, Halo 3 looked like crap to be considered "next-gen"…it barely looked like it graduated from the visuals of the original Xbox. This is despite fanboys protesting otherwise.

Anyway, Bungie has finally brought the visuals of the Halo series up to par with maybe, the first Mass Effect. So at least die-hard fans of the sci-fi shooter can brag to their PS3 rivals that they have a Halo that at least looks two years behind the competition. Reach is still no KillZone 2, though. Word of advice to Bungie: only brag about the graphics of a game when it looks better than the competition.

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Bungie2747d ago (Edited 2747d ago )

funny stuff

KillZone 2 don't even have 4 player co op,map editor,vesicles in MP,video capture and big environment

i think we all know grafix doesn't make a better game

thanks for the good laugh, i really needed it :)

GreenRingOfLife2747d ago (Edited 2747d ago )

Killzone has good graphics but i thought the gameplay was bad! No FPS comes close to Halo in terms of gameplay. And that is what games are all about and is why Halo Reach is already GOTY confirmed!

o and bungie that girl in your avatar is so cute!!! ^_^

-Alpha2747d ago (Edited 2747d ago )

It had it's own unique feel and had cover, which was fine.

If anything the responsiveness made for some clumsy CQC.

I do agree that Halo has the best gameplay variety this gen for MP. The modes, the split screen, etc. all offer so many features over any other game this gen. Bungie has supported its game terrifically.

@Bungie below

I can find many matches online. Not as much as Halo obviously, but the community is there.

Bungie2747d ago (Edited 2747d ago )


that's what i'm talking about
look what did the grafix did to KZ2, nearly a year and you can barely find a match online

on the other hand Halo 3 was the most played game of 2007,2008 and 2009

you just can't counter that

EDIT: @GreenRingOfLife

haven't you heard, i'm you , N4PS3 and Alpha-Male22 :)

LtSkittles2747d ago (Edited 2747d ago )


Why are you replying to yourself?

you both have the habit of not posting on your own, but to replies, this is an exception of course, you both troll very lighty in the gamer zone, and the exception is that Bungie also posts in the open zone, and you do not GROL, and you're both named after positive things towards the 360, and I am sure I could go on.

GreenRingOfLife2747d ago

Bungie if you got a dollar every time some hater said that you are me I think you'd be a millionaire

blitz06232747d ago

"i think we all know grafix doesn't make a better game"

Yes but if Killzone 2 had worse graphics but better gameplay than Halo you would be saying this:

"I think graphics attracts more people and makes a better game."

gaffyh2747d ago

Visually, not much can even compare to KZ2 and Uncharted 2, but at least it's a major improvement over Halo 3 which imo was not enough of an improvement over Halo 2.

Cold 20002747d ago (Edited 2747d ago )

Reach looks better than KZ2.Period.

I know it's going to hurt some people to admit it because they have ended up believing their own propaganda.

Today is the day the whole myth of the PS3 being graphically untouchable has just fallen hence the fanboy uproar.

And it's even more of a feat when you see that Reach has COLOURS and is a SANDBOX game.

Technically WAY superior.

End. (and it's still in alpha stage...)

Aquanox2747d ago (Edited 2747d ago )

Haha... And the Damage Control gets started.

Give me a break... Halo Reach as a whole is as good or even better than Killzone 2 if you consider the scale, color palette and other factors. Last but not least, what we've seen is Alpha.

As for the gameplay and personality of the game, Killone 2 is nonexistant compared to Halo.

van-essa2747d ago

Killzone? What's that? Never heard of it.

Parapraxis2747d ago

@ Cold 2000,
You need glasses, period.

Aquanox2747d ago

PS. And what kind of retarded person would compare Halo with Mass Effect ? This article is all rubbish.

Bnet3432747d ago

Killzone 2 was a forgettable game, I don't care if it had good graphics. The colors were bad too. Reach has more features.

Two-Face2747d ago

Killzone 2 is not all that you people claim.

The game has no variety in enemies, no co-op, sluggish gameplay... yeah.

Akagi2747d ago (Edited 2747d ago )

I imagine Bungie just waits for articles like these so he can comment first and get all the attention he craves so dearly for.

Regardless, due to DVD limitations and such, I don't see it coming close to KZ2.

LONEWOLF2312747d ago

Ahh well if it does or it doesnt, i for one dont really care!
Besides Once Crysis 2 releases, KZ2,UC2 and Reach will pale in comparison!

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LONEWOLF2312747d ago (Edited 2747d ago )

Yeah and ive heard the same thing coming from the Stationnauts and it never happens as well.

kaveti66162747d ago

Obviously Halo Reach looks great but probably not as great as Killzone 2. However, I am tired of reading that Halo 3 looked like crap.

Halo 3 does not look like crap by any stretch of the imagination. Having played hundreds of hours of both Halo 2 and Halo 3, I want you guys to trust me when I say that Halo 3 was visually a big step away from Halo 2. The only thing that made it similar to Halo 2 was the fact that the gameplay concepts had remained similar. Red v. Blue, plasma and frag grenades, etc. The style had not changed at all.

But visually, the Halo 3 was a next-gen game. It looks great for me and I have played some awesome-looking games on PC.

Reach will look great as well. Not as gritty as Killzone 2, and it probably won't have lighting effects that come close to KZ2, either. But it will still be a fun game, I think.

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Parapraxis2747d ago

LONEWOLF231 - has apparently completely blocked out 2009. LOL

SnuggleBandit2747d ago (Edited 2747d ago )


ya, none of em have ever played kz2...they just make crap up about it based on what reviewers and such have said bad about the game


2008-LittleBigPlanet won the vast majority of GOTY awards

2009-Uncharted 2 won virtually all GOTY awards

2010-Will be a close year because both platforms have a lot of good games but i wouldn't be surprised if another ps3 exclusive takes the cake

xTruthx2747d ago

Bungie for you to have said that you had to wait a year 2 play kz2 clearly shows how bad your at lying lol. Do you even know how many servers where up when this game launched ? with 32 players in almost every server ? You are aether a bad liar or just really bad at math

morganfell2747d ago (Edited 2747d ago )

Yeah the last time that claim was used by Sony supporters to express their feelings over a title in release the game was called Uncharted 2.

Cinemablend happens to be correct. The graphics in Killzone 2 are still a bar for other developers. Uncharted 2 looks fantastic but there isn't a better lighting engine than Killzone 2. Don't talk about Cryengine3. We work with it and the PC fidelity doesn't transfer to the console. Quite frankly when it comes to the PC, the Arrowhead engine buries Cryengine3 while rendering maps of a mind boggling size.

I love HALO but it's strength has not been and the vid doc demonstrates it will not be graphics when stacked against other titles. Will it look great? Oh yes. Better than the competition? No. But that shouldn't stop you from enjoying the game immensely.


@Kneon below - Exactly. That weighty realistic feel is fantastic. Killzone 2 did not do something and I am glad they did not. They have made 3 games to date in that world and they have not broken the canon with their multiplayer.

kneon2747d ago

Killzone has about 15 enemy types with different weapons, uniforms and behaviours, plus a couple different heavies, the ATAC, and Radec. Seems like plenty to me. Just because they are all human enemies doesn't mean they are all the same.

I would have liked co-op as well, hopefully next time.

And what you call sluggish I call realistic. I really like it, it's more of a challenge, which I is what I look for, but I know many found it too hard. It's the same complaint I hear from people about MAG, they say it's too hard and go back to COD.

Aquanox2747d ago

Well, it's probably too early to tell but it seems that the Xbox 360 will have at very least 2 heavy weight GOTY contenders with Mass Effect 2 and Halo Reach. Alan Wake and Fable 3 might get in the fight as well so, being Heavy Rain, MAG and probably GT5 (judging by the demo) out of the competition, unless Sony really impresses with God of War, the fight will be among multiplatforms and xbox 360 exclusives.

Traveler2747d ago

This is the most flagrant fanboy tripe that I have ever read. Not only was it pure nonsense, but the author didn't make an effort to disguise his bias.

marinelife92747d ago

My guess is that most of the people who are bashing Killzone 2's gameplay either don't own a PS3 or suck at Killzone 2.

It's online component is top notch. It didn't receive all those perfect scores and AAA metacritic status for nothing.

SoX FireBlade2747d ago

The features in Halo 3 are enough to make it a next gen game

and the graphics weren't that bad at all. just because Gears of War and Uncharted 1 had better graphics doesn't mean that Halo 3 had bad graphics

Halo has large landscapes and the colors were really good

Shadow Flare2747d ago

I just watched the vidoc, and I gotta say:

A) No, its just not in the same ballpark as killzone 2 in terms of graphics. You only have to watch some hd videos of killzone 2 to see that


B) there's still alot of development time for it left and

C) this really does look like it will be the best halo game out

I've got a bit of a soft spot for halo. I spent many, many hours on halo 2 online and they're really good games. I don't think halo reach will ever top killzone 2 visually, but halo games always put their gameplay above their graphics. So good on em

green2747d ago (Edited 2747d ago )

Halo Reach looks better than Killzone 2. And it is even more impressive when you consider the FACT that Reach has colours, its a sandbox game, has 40 enemies + vehicles on screen at once, 4 -player co-op and Forge mode.Things that don't apply to K3.

So even from a technical and features stand point, Reach wins hands down.

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Traveler2747d ago

I was hugely impressed by the Halo Reach footage. To say that it is not close to Killzone 2 is laughably absurd. This "article" sounds like it was written by one of the fanboys that frequent this site.

mrv3212747d ago

Killzone 2 has big enviroments.

I love how your list of thing many of who'm wheren't supported by the first 2 halo games. Infact the first Halo game didn't have online so would it be fair to call Halo 1 and 2 rubbish. NO. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT.

So what it has FORGE, so does Far Cry 2, did not make that game better and to be honest Halo 3 is PERFECTLY fun without it. The video capture is useful I personally prefer no vehicles but that's my taste.

And btw you forgot to mention the fact that Killzone 2 has features halo doesn't like a Class system, DEDICATED servers, NO LAG, 32 player online, BOTS, better graphics, server search. See what I'm getting at? Your logic is stupid. Halo and Killzone are different thing, Killzone 2 is fun and beautiful Halo is fun and simple. I don't mean simple as for newbs because go online and you'll get owned it's easy to pick up and play.

Halo VS Warhawk would be far more accurate and I must say Warhawk wins for me because the vehicles FEEL LESS tacked on.

Sez 2747d ago (Edited 2747d ago )

i guess if halo reach was a corridor shooter then it would match or surpass killzone 2. but since it open world, 40 AI and 20 vehicles, co-op,ect. graphic>gameplay. i guess bungie should have just worried about graphics. since thats all everyone cares about anyway.

um R2 and kz2 can't overshadow H3. what are you talking about. and thats a fact