O.G. writes "When our systems stop working, we have our local video game repair guy to get them back up and running. Recently, he gave us some tips to keep our system from breaking down again."
here is a tip for x360 fans x360. Don't turn it on.
"Keep your Xbox 360 playtime around 5 hours at most" I think this is the most important part of the whole article. I'd be surprised if it could even last 3 hours going by past experiences.
Not that I'd get near 5 hours in a single gaming session personally, but what an indictment on the cheap build quality of the system if you can't play it the way you want without it breaking down... I've had 2 break down on me, but hopefully my third holds up (knocks on wood). But I can see why they broke down because I used to have them in a rumpus room that would get extremely hot in summer, always over 30 degrees in there and it didn't cool down at night. If there was one room you should never use something that was prone to overheating in, it was that room. That said, my PS3 never had a problem in there. Since I've moved both consoles into my bedroom (with a much nicer TV and sound system ;)), which is air conditioned and they're in open space on top of a desk and not in a cabinet. I think the best tips are these to keep any system running: 1) Regularly dust the system and around it- I dust the desk and around the consoles twice a week with a wet cloth. 2) Have them in an open space, with at as little clutter around them as possible, and if the back is to a wall (where the fan is) give it at least a foot of space so the hot air the fans pump out flows away, you don't want it cycling back in. I've moved my desk back from the wall a bit too so the air can flow away from the fans. You don't want clutter around them acting like insulation, and that includes another console. Avoid TV cabinets if you can, they turn into little hotboxes. 3) Never put anything on top of the systems
add this fan to your console
I take good care of my ps3, I happen to play more than 12hours straight soemtimes, and its ok so far. But tips are always helpful :)
I've left my 360 on for days on many occasions. My launch xbox was crap, red lights once and disc read errors, I swapped it for an elite and its fantastic, no problems for over a year, and once the games are installed its even quieter than my ps3.
Hmm? Know way that the laser could have been sold out due to an increase in the manufacturing of blu-ray players huh? I use my PS3 for EVERYTHING. Everything you can do with it I DO with the exception of remote play. My PS3 is almost 3 years old now and still going strong. The only suggestion that should be made for PS3s is proper ventilation and clear the vents of dust.
Ive played over 24 hours straight on my PS3 with my friends lol
...the vertical tip is incorrect from what I hear. If I'm not mistaken, having it vertical blocks off some of the vents, which restricts airflow; and it increases the chance of it getting knocked-over, which could damage the system.
Installing games to the 360's HDD is great for helping it run cool and quiet. Since I've had the 120gb elite I have been installing every game I play and it's been fantastic, faster load times and the console hardly makes a sound.
thats what ive been doing since i got it and i dont have to deal with the jet turbine of a dvd drive that the 360 has... although i only have 20gbs left, now when are those 250s gonna be out in the US? wish i could just slap a 2.5 sata in without worrying like i did with my ps3 :(
i took my elite back after having it for 1 week when they announce the mw2 bundle so plz use the install option for ya 360 and ya ps3 it will last longer and plus u can buy some of the games from their respective dashdoard and the sony store
make it scratch the disk?
I heard it did. So I keep mine flat just to be safe. But I guess it won't rally matter if I'm running games off the HDD.
Yeah it does. Scratched my GTA right after I put it inside. Way to piss of the owner, huh?
while its on with the disc spinning.
Nope. Had mine vertical for 3 years. It's only if you move it around while the disc is loading. And why anyone would do that is beyond me.
no not really if u take care of it lol
I was told that you should keep your system horizontal because the vents (on the PS3 at least) are on the side. If you keep it vertical, warm air stays trapped inside. Heat from the bottom also has a long travel upward in order to get out, so it concentrates heat along the middle and at the top of the system and since one of the vents is blocked, it just lingers inside. This may be different in the case of the Xbox, but if the vents are on the sides, then keep it horizontal. The best tip they give is just not to play your system for too long. If possible keep your play time to 4 hours or less, and that's not just good for your system, but good for your health and for your social/family life.
Just stop spreading wrong information. Look at your PS3 again. The side vents you're talking about are on the side where the drive and lights are. That is not the side you put the PS3 on. You put it on the other side, which if you look at it now, has no vents or any opening whatsoever. You've been told wrong.
WRONG... The bottom (when vertical) has no vents just the slot to change the HDD. The main vent system where the fans are is on the rear, and there are vents without fans on the top- on a pre-slim model. Overheating is not really an issue with the PS3 anyway, its cooling system is quite good if your system is well placed- problems with PS3's are usually manufacturing defects and the BD drive conking out. But its rarely an issue, failure rates for the PS3 are well advertised to be within the acceptable industry standard.
concerning my 360...by the guy who repaired it. He said it was best to leave it flat when playing it.
Thermal imaging shows horizontal is better. They were designed to sit horizontally. http://playstation.joystiq.... Also, vertical increases the likelihood of the console falling over. Edit: NM, NJ Shadow found the link a while ago.
This article is incredibly inaccurate. They've done thermal tests which prove that using a console vertically created MORE heat, as opposed to using it horizontally. UGH. BTW, I've had my PS3 for over 3 years and I haven't had a problem yet (it's the original 60GB model upgraded to 250GB). How about people just use common sense when using their consoles and TAKE CARE OF IT.
Tip 5 hardly prevents it. half the tips are basically saying don't use your console and the others are wrong... Yet they miss the biggest tip, keep it clear of dust. If the vents of the fans get clogged then that going to cause some heat problems.
Care to back that comment up about vertical being bad? Everything out there says that vertical is better because he rises and there are additional vents on the side that points up.
Yes, I would like to back that up. Here's the link: http://playstation.joystiq....
I remember the Polygamia article also. The problem with the vertical placement of the old PS3's was that the heat was rising from the bottom to critical parts of the system. There's all kinds of advice that people give, and it's all different based on what type of tech they're using to figure this out. I'd follow your instruction manual first, and then maybe find good, cited evidence about this - not just a list with some anecdata like this one. However, let's not all assume that console breakage is a result of neglect - some consoles will break regardless of the TLC you give them, even when they have a steady track record. It's technology - Murphy's Law always applies.
The image on most articles just show the horizontal image and that it must be cooler because the image is taken from the front. But if you look at the double picture, you see the numbers for the vertical is actually lower and that the vertical was taken from the back not the front: http://www.maxconsole.net/c... In any case, it's far from scientifically proving anything and actually goes against physics being that the hot air travels up hence the vent that is open on the top side when it's vertical.
LMAO!!! truth hurts
quote: Stop using your system for anything other than games Robert: While this applies to both systems, blu rays on the PS3 is the major offender with this tip. Fact is with blu ray being such a new technology when the PS3 first came out; the lasers were not the quality that you see today where blu ray is more common. Last year, the repairs I had to the most for the PS3 was replacing blu ray lasers. It got so bad that the supplier for the laser was sold out for weeks because so many people were ordering them to replace PS3 lasers. With blu ray players being so cheap now, spring for one of those instead of wearing out your PS3. clearly he is lying..ps3's dont break according to sony. LMAO.if ps3 owners did this then then no one would be turning it on at all.
I often play my 360 for 8 or more hours at a time and I have never had a problem.
Playing with the controller does not mean you're playing with the console on.
I lol Hard :)
Not only developers are limited to 5GB. They also have to keep the whole play time to 5 hours. pretty sad.....
Haven't really seen any proof that keeping your xbox 360 in one position over the other does anything but seeing as the biggest vent on the 360 is under it when it's vertical makes more sense to keep it horizontal. Also makes more sense to keep it horizontal to keep the dvd flat inside the drive.
You can't avoid the inevitable - your Xbox 360 will RRoD sooner or later. FACT.
trade it in had the 160gb last feb,just upgraded to the 250gb slim this feb,it cost me another 120 which is what three games.as the slim is 30 percent cheaper to run,over a year i will be clawing back the extra from day one.thats how to mantain your console,no worries.
my ps3 has never died on me and i have the 60 gig launch console and i played on it for hours and than watched movies on it and nothing ever happens... by the way 1 tip they forgot to mention for the 360...just dont turn it on..
My Xbox RRoD'd a couple days ago. Luckily when I turned it off and back on it worked again. Now I'm nervous about using it. I just hope it lasts until Splinter Cell comes out.
That sucks, just imaging turning on the console, inserting the new game that you are dying to play, and all of sudden, it RRODs... ouch. I wish the very best of luck to you.
That sucks, dude. You shouldn't feel worried to play games. You should be excited =(
I wouldn't do anything in that list. It looks completely wrong.
I can leave my ps3 running for weeks at a time (i travelled around south east asia last summer for 3 weeks and I forgot the ps3 was on pause...whoops) and my wii on for a month at a time(grandma died, drove across 3 states in the middle of the night to see the family, forgot it was on pause). Also, my 15 year old sega saturn runs flawlessly.....FLAWLESSLY. Why then, does an xbox 360 die from normal use. I refuse to buy something that will break from using it in it's intended fashion. Before I get called a fanboy i'd like to point out that I own an original xbox......which, i'd like to add, runs fine. The 360 when it comes to hardware is a complete joke.
Do you have a disagree? lol. I dont own a 360 anymore but I completely agree with you. WHy the hell am I paying a sh** ton of money for these systems just for them to break in a year. I got my ps3 mainly for bluray. I use it daily and very rarely turn it off. I shouldnt have to worry that its going to overheat or break. Its all just a gimmic. They make these systems faulty the first time around and then expect you to just fork over two to four hundred dollars for another one just for that to break again.
I have a disagree because some people refuse to accept the fact that a system can have good games and an excellent online system (the 360) but also have the MOST faulty hardware in the history of gaming. I don't think the 360 is a horrible system, there are plenty of games i'd like to play that aren't available on other systems, but it goes back to the point of my above post. I'm not going to buy something that I know will break. People use the argument of the extended warranty but still, the thought of packing up my system and sending it back to the manufacterer is insane to me. Also, I realize that the ps3 has the YLOD and the wii also has problems too, but they are so few and far between. The 360 is guaranteed to break, I honestly believe that. I literally have not met one person who hasn't had their system break on them, whether it be the disc tray not operating correctly, RROD or the e74 error.
i think with the phat ps3's their better to play them laying them flat because of their weight and you still get air flow regardless through the ps3 because it circulates through the side.
NO. I think I will use the system as explained in the handbook and when it breaks (again) Microsoft will fix it. If they refuse they will have a court case on their hands. They stated the usage limits in the handbook, essentially saying they have tested the system under those guidelines - if for any reason they are incorrect it is 100% Microsoft's fault - that is the way it works, we do not have to take any extra precautions because of Microsoft or Sony's idiocy.
IMO it would be pretty stupid to buy a seperate Blu Ray player if you have a PS3 to avoid "wearing out" the system. If you are going to be paranoid & worry of your stuff breaking down from normal use, then why even bother having it if? My advice is to back up your data, but don't be paranoid about using the devices many different features & capabilies. Don't worry about horizontal versus vertical positioning as long as it is in a well ventilated room that is not too hot. Keep the dust out, and don't run either system for several hours without taking a cool down break.
Is crap. I would not do this if I were you. When I had a 360 I had it vertical and it literally chipped and scratched my Skate 2 disc. Sold 360 and got slim and I immediately set it up vertically just to have it scratch my MW:2 disc. Never again will I do this. Also heres a tip from me............ALWAYS buy insurance or whatever they call it from GameStop when buying a game. Its like 3 bucks for the year and thats what saved my butt when both those games got messed up.
man, skate 2 getting scratched is a shame. If my copy got messed up i'd dig a hole in the backyard and have a ceremony for it. I've probably put over 400 hours into that game. Can't wait for Skate3.
so, don't use Natal like the kid in this video, http://www.youtube.com/watc... He just woke up and walked by the TV and the xbox was already on and waiting for him. Does that mean MS wants you to keep the xbox on at all times, so that Natal can recognize you walking by, and try to pick a fight? I'm not trying to be a [email protected], I really want to know if they expect you to keep it on at all times.
I often like to cook bacon on the top of my 60gig PS3 (because I love waking up to the smell of bacon). Also the piano black surface is non stick and the convex shape allows the grease to run off. Is this bad for it? I don't see it addressed in any of these.................*ahem*.. ..........tips.
Hey that is fine. As long as you don't watch your blu-rays on it. That might burn your bacon.
My launch 60 gigger(upgraded to 640Gb)has been horizontal from day one. Not had one single problem, and it's coming upto 3 years old(March). My PS3 gets used to play games, Movies & Music. It's my all in one media hub. Jump Out, Play B3yond
Now your just being silly ;)
the best advice, limit your playing time, its good for your vision and it'll give your console a longer lifetime
Hmmm, #2 worries me. At least the title of it. I only own one Blu ray and have only watched it twice but almost every night I watch something on google video, youtube or a movie streamed from my PC with Tversity. How harmful is that??
Don't buy a 360 or keep it in a cold place that keeps out the dust (Maybe a freezer, one that is build to hold the system. PS3 maybe a fan to hook to the front of the system and a fan to suck out the air from the back (PS3 has a fan but it pushes the heat out an why have a fan push air back in?), but that is if you got the older models. PS3 Slim seems to do just find how it is. So far my friends PS3 Slim is spotless and he doesn't keep anything really clean in his house, two 360's have die in his house and one copy of Fable 2 die.
Wow, you clearly have no knowledge of hardware =P The reason why the newer models are less likely to overheat is because of smaller chipset. Smaller die means less power consumption and less heat. The reason why the older 360 SKUs are prone to hardware failure is because the motherboard is poorly design with crap soldering.
Really? Wow, -_- find that to be full of BS, the 7,200RPM hard drive were part of the problem (Reason why they aren't in the PS3) an if you think of it, the PS3 isn't fully a PC and it wasn't build to handle 7,200RPM. So yeah.
The PS3 not a "full" PC, really? What make a PS3 different from a PC? Like every console, a PS3 has a CPU (Cell processor clocked at 3.2ghz), a GPU (RSX clocked 550 mhz), RAM (256mb ddr3 700mhz and 256mb XDR 3.2ghz), and a HDD(5,400RPM 2.5 notebook HDD capacity vary between SPUs). The PS3 slim runs cooler because of its smaller 45nm chipset for both the RSX and Cell. The slim consumes 40 percent less power than the launch units and produces less heat. This reduction in heat allowed Sony to reduce the size with a smaller more confined shell. And to make your statement even more invalid, EVERY PS3 SKU ever made came with a standard 5400rpm 2.5" inch notebook HDD. NOWHERE on the internet does it state that any PS3 came with a 7200 rpm HDD. There will be little no gain in upgrading since most of the data is running on the disc. Please write and sign your "just got your [email protected]@ pwn" letter to me ASAP. Sources: http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... http://playstation.about.co... http://gear.ign.com/article...
And this is another failing on Sony and Microsoft side, luckily for Wii owners it produces so little heat from its chips it only need 1 out take fan. On PCs you have Intake fans and out take fans any RPM and size On PS3 and 360 they only have low RPM out take fans, you need intake What would happen to PS3 or 360 if the fans fail? = Instant failure
So far in a PS3 slim, as long as it is running a 5,400RPM hard drive, it doesn't heat up at all really. The older models only seem to overheat do to the fact it is running a 7,200RPM hard drive. As for the 360, it seems to run well without a fan, but if it gets any of its hardware problems, then it kind of wishes it had one. Besides the Wii wasn't build to be a power house HD system that does alot.
It more than just HDD facepalm Its all the chips Cell and RSX product more heat than any HDD will ever do same with xenos and xenon Only reason the Wii heats up is because of Wifi adaptor
I got a 80GB PS3 an it doesn't come close to heating up like the old 80GB model did, an notthings change from it but the lack of being able to play PS2 titles.
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