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White Knight Chronicles - ZTGD Review

ZeroTolerance writes: The PlayStation 3 hasn't exactly been the breeding ground for classic JRPG titles like its predecessor. Most titles have been hand-me-downs from Microsoft's console or games that just don't break the mold other than a few exceptions such as Demon's Souls and Valkyria Chronicles. White Knight Chronicles is about as promising as a first-party RPG can be with developer Level 5 (Dragon Quest, Dark Cloud series) at the helm and the recent trend of fantastic first-party exclusive for Sony's console. While it does introduce a fantastic community where gamers can discuss tactics and plan quests, it still lacks a certain panache that would place among the elite in the genre. Still if you are a PS3-only owner in need of some classic JRPG action, this is one of the better exclusives for the console. (PS3, White Knight Chronicles) 7/10

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Blaster_Master  +   1686d ago
Cons
- Combat is far too easy
- Most attacks are useless
- Story can be dull
- Online hindrances

Okay, so combat is too easy but most attacks are useless? You know what I think Zero? I think you should let someone who actually likes rpg's review them instead. I know its just your opinion, but really, its opinions like these that dont give games like WKC the credit it deserves. I get it, saving the princess seems boring to you. Sorry there aren't any invincible space marines and aliens for you to kill in outer space. Just so you know, this game has as much emotion as FFX, and for you to say that you think the story is boring just proves to me that your opinion is crap. Good day to you sir.
Homicide  +   1686d ago
It's true that the game is easy and most attacks are useless. You can beat the entire game by using slash or lunging slash.
Bungie  +   1686d ago
they should let a RPG fan review RPG games
it's clear that this guy is not a fan
Montrealien  +   1686d ago
the gaming critic world and the people that argue with them, in a nutshell....

Person a- I like blue.

Person b- Well, I like red.

discuss.
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sakura2009  +   1686d ago
bungie and maste blaster is right. he hates rpg.

Cross Edge 6.0
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm 7.0
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World 6.0
Homicide  +   1686d ago
^Those games were awful though.
sakura2009  +   1686d ago
yes. but he hates rpg thats what we are talking about are we not
TheTwelve  +   1686d ago
Cross Edge didn't even deserve a 6 IMO, and that's the only game there that is truly horrible because it was clearly about making money using famous names above making a storyline.

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ifhd  +   1686d ago
finally what took you so long ZT?
Blaster_Master  +   1686d ago
@ Homicide. You could only do that if you were the white knight the whole game, but thats physically impossible. But whatever, Ive totally given up on at least one gaming site with enough cred to give this game the score it deserves, but it seems to me that people really only like the play the same games over and over. Pretty much what im saying is that most people only play games that have guns, and have no variety whatsoever. Oh well, their loss my gain.
Homicide  +   1686d ago
No, I'm never used the White Knight other than the time you were forced to use him. This game is much easier than FFXII which is sad because I can beat half of FFXII without touching a button.
BeaArthur  +   1686d ago
Blaster_Master..."But whatever, Ive totally given up on at least one gaming site with enough cred to give this game the score it deserves". Oh and what score does it deserve? I see just about every site giving this game an average score. So what you are saying is that every site out there is wrong and you are the only one with an objective and educated opinion? If you like the game, you like the game, but don't sit there and act like you are the only credible opinion out there.
TheTwelve  +   1686d ago
It is in the JRPG that we clearly see the clash of what English-speaking and Japanese-speaking people value in games. Simple as that. Only Japanese gamers and English-speaking gamers who grew up with JRPGs (like me) are going to value this game and call it for what it is.

This game isn't Mass Effect 2, will never be Mass Effect 2, shouldn't be compared to Mass Effect 2, and doesn't want to be Mass Effect 2.

And I and many other JRPG fans would like to keep it that way.

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N4Garbage  +   1686d ago
JRPGs aren't meant for reviews.

If your a fan of the genre...then buy or rent the game.

NO review can measure a persons passion for JRPGs.

S04 scored average across the board but did it stop the endless enjoyment I had collecting all Battle Trophies and beating Empress?

244+hours into Star Ocean4.....you would think it was an AAA game right?

Infinite Undiscovery is a goddamn good game that receives hate because of its exclusivity.

If your a JRPG gamer you know reviews matter none because it is the player and his/her methods that make a JRPG great not a damn score.
BeaArthur  +   1686d ago
Well that's just the thing, there are plenty of people (myself included) who consider themselves to be JRPG fans but not hardcore JRPG fans. It has been a long time since I have played a JRPG that I would call great. I was interested in WKC but since I am not a hardcore fan I am not willing to just play any JRPG because it is a JRPG. Therefore I look to reviews to give me a better idea of whether the game is worth playing or not. You say "NO review can measure a persons passion for JRPGs" but you are not supposed to review it passionately, the review is supposed to be objective and logical.
TheTwelve  +   1686d ago
No...a review is not supposed to be objective. First of all, no review is objective...that's impossible. We are not robots and come into any judgement with baggage.

Second of all, true RPG fans don't need to hear the opinion of a game from someone who pretends to be "objective".

See, people are taking "games" too seriously these days. Games are about fun. WKC is FUN. It's not a news report or critical biography that we have to judge, to define it's integrity.

This game will indeed sell for any fans of JRPGs and those fans who have let others tell them this game is good for bad, sorry for you. Be careful letting other people snatch away your joy.

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BeaArthur  +   1686d ago
TheTwelve...it is supposed to be an objective evaluation of the contents of the game. I am not going to sit here and say that personal feelings don't get included in the review but they should be limited. I actually enjoyed playing Two Worlds and that game is horribly designed. Now if I was to review it based on how much I liked it or how much fun it was I would have given it an 8+. But no, when I reviewed it I removed my personal feelings and gave it a legitimate review, as it should have been. I'm not saying there is no place for personal feelings about the game but to base the review totally or even mostly off of personal feelings is irresponsible. It is detrimental to the reader and the reviewer/reviewers site. Readers look to reviewers to help them determine which games to purchase. To not have some type of criteria (other than it was fun) would ruin the website or publications credibility.
TheTwelve  +   1686d ago
Sure, reviews are meant to help people buy a game but a true reviewer would take the time to know the audience. People who are curious about JRPGs are fans of the genre and therefore should be spoken to. A true disservice is grading WKC on a generic scale that doesn't take these things into account.

It's very easy to add up the good points of something, subtract what you don't like, and come up with a score----all the while completely forgetting the spirit of a game.

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ikral  +   1686d ago
7 is not a bad score, and game loks nice. For RPG fans is a must play.
TapiocaMilkTea  +   1686d ago
Yeah, I was gonna say, zerotolerance is actually quite tolerable to WKC compared to other game sites.
maniacmayhem  +   1686d ago
Damn, Level 5 should have just came out with Rogue Galaxy 2. That game's ending was begging for a sequel.

I have this at home right now, but after these reviews I'll hold off and finish Mass Effect 2 and Bayonetta.
Sevir04  +   1686d ago
i actually like this game. i was very nervous about playing after all the reviews came out
But taking some time with Game like i have with many others it's actually pretty nice, and i like it.
PooEgg  +   1686d ago
I also like this game, although a few things bothered me at first, the more I play it the more I find myself having a hard time putting it aside. It grows on you.
Dark360  +   1686d ago
Oh Well...
Droids

White Knight Chronicles...Flop Confirmed
Next....

...Sorry DROIDS Better Luck Next Time...LOL
Blaster_Master  +   1686d ago
Its easily a 9 out of 10. The only reason why I wouldnt give this game a 10 is because there is some tweaking that need to be done with the controls. Other then that like I said before, this is the kinda game that i never even dreamed of as a child. Play Dragon Warrior 1 and then playing this would absolutely have melted my eyes as a kid.
BeaArthur  +   1686d ago
Are you really talking about WKC's graphics in comparison to an original Nintendo game? That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard on this website. All the stupid fanboy comments and all the comments made by people with horrible grammar that have no idea what they are talking about and you have surpassed them all.
Knghtz  +   1686d ago
Uhh, that comparison is a bit irrelevant isn't it? Just sayin'...
Wildarmsjecht  +   1686d ago
Hmm
Personally, I'm having a great time with the game and think its a fantastic start to the JRPGs that are heading my way this year. Is it perfect? nope. But it definitely isn't a 5 in my eyes (IGN, im looking at you). Id give it a high 80s, low 90s because most of the cons that Zero post, I agree with. There are times when GeoNet kicks one of my quest mates out for no reason, and the process of adding a friend is not fluid at all (Note - You have to type in the psn name, and they have to do the same for you. If anyone can figure out a quicker less annoying way, by all means tell me)
The battles are fairly easy as well, but I don't know if thats because I grinded early on, or just the way it is. Still, I don't use any other attack other than "Hack" with my Katana so there is definitely some truth to what Zero says.

In any case, it's a matter of opinion. I think it deserves a bit higher, but at least the review is informative of what you get out of it. Im getting great enjoyment and if anyone decides to pick it up, whether it be by rent or impulse buy, i have faith they'll think its pretty good too.
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Aleusia  +   1686d ago
Yes, go through
PSN XMB, go to your "players met" icon..select it, will show a while list of people you have encountered in any online game you've played...add request...done.
Wildarmsjecht  +   1686d ago
I know of that method to add people to your PSN, but I meant within the game, adding friends to your GeoNet. I have friends on my PSN that are playing with me at this moment, but in order for us to visit each others towns and stuff, we have to "re-add" through the game in the method I stated above.
sakura2009  +   1686d ago
just get final fantasy xiii instead. its less than a month away
Homicide  +   1686d ago
Agreed. At least SE knows how to tell a compelling story.
LeonSKennedy4Life  +   1686d ago
Dude.
No...seriously, try it out. It's fantastic! I don't even like JRPG's that much. It's great though!
TheTwelve  +   1686d ago
Homicide, SE hasn't told a compelling story since FF8.

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Montrealien  +   1686d ago
If FF8 is your idea of the last compeling story in FF series, I have to chuckle.

also, I am noticing that the people who really love WKC remind me of an old Eddie Murphy joke.

If you have not eaten in a few weeks, trust me, a that dry cracker will be the best damn meal ever!

hehe, I kid.
TheTwelve  +   1686d ago
...and like a comedian your words really didn't have much meaning at all. Thanks.

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Montrealien  +   1686d ago
Well, if my words did not have much meaning, why did you reply? I would not shrug your comments off in such an infantile manner.

Now go circle jerk in a Sony news piece to keep your bubbles up.

chop! chop!
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LeonSKennedy4Life  +   1686d ago
Um...
Best JRPG in years.

I don't know what these guys are smoking. This game is fantastic!
TheTwelve  +   1686d ago
I'm loving the game...
It was in the middle of the last generation that English-speaking reviewers gave up on JRPGs.

So no surprise about the WKC review scores. If you are a fan of the JRPG, get this game.

The difficulty in this game is exactly as you want it to be. If you're looking for very tough fights in this game, just do quests above your level. Or try to solo them. Simple as that.

Originality isn't everything. It's a very Western concept. There is also value in an old story done well. Believe it or not, there are people who don't want something new---they wan't something comfortable.

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TheTwelve  +   1686d ago
If you don't like JRPGs, sure this game would be a 5. That's because you wouldn't value what JRPGs are about.

But considering all that this game brings, including the Geonet, the graphics, the scope, music and scenery....

For a JRPGer this game is a 9-rated dream come true.

Reviews aren't everything. Don't let people who are rushed to play a game and review it steal your hobby from you.

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MetalProxy  +   1686d ago
Mr. 12
Agreed! Your a smart man. I had mixed feelings about WKC, but after I played the game I couldnt stop. Theres so much to do and its so much fun.
Reviewers need to stop telling me how they feel about a game and stop compairing them to others. Just tell me what the game is about. Let ME deside. I dont give a **** what game the reviewer likes cuz his tastes will never ever be the same as mine.
Redempteur  +   1686d ago
i really don't care about WKc reviews now .. that is because .. MY COPY finally arrived !!fedex sure took their time but now i can finally enjoy this game ...

These review didn't change my opinion ..because i don't care about them .. it's the cool thing to nitpick on Jrpgs ... It's always the same , no innovation , no customisation .. yet most of them try something new everytime ..

FF13 tried to do something original by focusing on the story .
WKC has a very nice quest system up to 4 players with customisable towns
Demon souls has one of the most solid gameplay rpgs of the last 5 years ..

But you will always find people trying to act negatively ... do you enjoy RPGS or not ? well i love them ..

DQ5 ( ps2 ) was translated recently and i'm loving it ...sure it's old school but so what ...good rpgs STAY good rpgs ..some people here sadden me because they don't enjoy their games ..

Anyway ..i'm off to play ...
Noob  +   1686d ago
I can see where some people are coming from
Lost Odyssey didn't score so well but I thought it was one of the best JRPGs I played in awhile. I also own games like Infinite Undiscovery, Blue Dragon, and Last Remnant, and I couldn't agree more with the scores they received.
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Silly gameAr  +   1686d ago
Man, I don't mean to sound preachy or anything, but 360 and PS3 gamers need to come together on this whole "JRPG is dying out crap".

Even if you are a diehard 360 fan, you owned a PS2 and played and enjoyed at least one JRPG right? Due to the low scores and bad press JRPGs are getting in NA, I believe it won't be long before future JRPGs in NA are going to be slim pickings do to the bashing.

I mean if a game is just bad and deserves a bad score, then it is what it is. But, honestly, what JRPG this gen has gotten above an 8 in NA? I really can't remember.

This is just my opinion, but I think if things continue the way they have been, Japan will be afraid to localize any JRPG.

I honestly hope the 360 exclusive Monster Hunter game comes to the US and does well. Hell, even though SE has kind of let us down this generation, I hope FF13 is a big seller on the 360, because that is probably the console Japan has got their eye on because Microsoft is an american company, and they are testing the waters on the 360 because they know it is the best selling console in the US.

But, anyway my stupid rant is over, but this is just something that has been on my mind for a while and I wanted to get it off my chest. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how FF13 does in the US because I have a feeling that if it does bad, we won't be seeing many RPGs from Japan anymore. Even less than we have seen this generation.
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hatchimatchi  +   1686d ago
I agree completely. I'm worried that these reviews for WKC are going to seriously hurt the games sales. It annoys me too because on IGN's gamescoop podcast and PS3 podcast they don't even elaborate on what they didn't like about the game, someone brought it up and they just go, "ehhhh."

I don't care what site you read, a 5.1 isn't mediocre. It's garbage. WKC is definitely not a garbage game. The game is extremely polished and loads of fun. I can understand completely if people don't enjoy the gameplay style but that doesn't mean it's a bad game.

I own VC and I don't enjoy the battle system but I would still rate the game a 9 because the execution in it is great. Same with a lot of SRPG's. I'm terrible at them but I realize that they are great games and should be treated as such. WKC is one of these games, the battle system may seem a bit slow but that's because it's turn based. It's not hack 'n slash, it's turn based in real time. Do the reviewers not realize this? I love it and I find the system very fun and refreshing.

If you're on the fence about this game, definitely rent it or borrow it from a friend. Don't go by what the reviews say. I never cry foul on reviews cause I usually don't care but in this case WKC has seriously been getting treated unfairly and it's annoying because unfair reviews will take away sales and then, like the guy above me said, will eventually lead to less and less JRPG's released outside of Japan.
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Odion  +   1686d ago
My problem with JRPG's is that they took their formula from Ultima 3 then never evolved past it.
Redempteur  +   1686d ago
my problem with your comment is that you should check your facts with a history book
shammgod  +   1686d ago
WKC is flat out fun. Geonet is a sweet addition that should become standard in all rpgs. I think the community so far is awesome. I just need to raise my binding rank to get some sweet armor.
Halo3 MLG Pro  +   1686d ago
Just another misfire for sony this year.
hatchimatchi  +   1686d ago
was that really necessary?
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LeonSKennedy4Life  +   1686d ago
: )
Misfire...
Mistake...
Failure...

That's great.

I'm playing it as we speak, however...and it's an incredible game.
RedPawn  +   1686d ago
Like Magna Carta 2, nice try

The score is spot on actually.

Key things
Level 5 first Next Gen game.
Game is dated because it's been out for a while.

Take it for what you will but the game is fun, but the story and characters aren't messing w/Mass Effect 2's depth. Who gives a crap buy or not, this is not the worst JRPG this Gen by far.

FFxiii around the corner.
demoneyeslaharl  +   1686d ago
I rate it a solid 8
I haven't dabbed on the online aspects yet, and I can see why a lot of the review sites seem to rate it low, but I find the game really fun and interesting so far.
m-s-8-2  +   1686d ago
About what I'd give it if anyone cared about my opinion. It's a good game, but nothing amazing.

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