Bioshock 2 is excessively over-protected with -- depending on where you purchase -- up to three different DRM schemes included. When will developers finally follow in the footsteps of Good Old Games and drop this DRM nonsense once and for all?
If you wanted you can still steal this game ? ( PC MARKET IS KILLING ITSELF )
Customer: What a pain! It feels like I'm LEASING the game. Corporate: Our content is safe! Pirates: LOL, DRM.
PC GAMERS are killing the market...hence the DRM. If there weren't pirates, there'd be no need for DRM.
If you think for one second they would ditch DRM if all piracy disappeared then you are deluding yourself. This has always been about CONTROL. Ultimately that is why all DRM will fail the PC isn't something you can "control" something companies just cannot get through their thick skulls.
PC market is saving game industries. Imagine, if nobody makes game for PC and all these PC brilliant people move to console. I don't even wanna talk about 360, even PS3 would be hacked and it'd be rampart. By the way, DRM is to control honest buyers. It's pointless for pirates.
Its not the piracy that is killing the PC gaming, its the piracy protection. I would never buy a game with DRM or anything similar as its like many have already said only to screw up with consumers.
@Viper I agree 100%. Lets say, an honest guy buys game. He is no computer nerd. He just wants to play game. But, he can't run it properly because of all these so called piracy protection limitation. Guess what will he do? He goes out and buys console or learn about how computer works (not to mention stay with tech support for an hour just for them to pick up the phone). Well, not everyone has time or capacity to learn everything. And, for so many gamers, they just want to play games. Games = FUN. Game =/ Headache.
LOL yeah you guys are right, I hate the DRM on Doom....
I can understand PC developers wanting to protect their properties, but severely restricting freedoms on said games is not the answer. Look to Bethesda with Oblivion and Fallout 3 for their stance on draconian DRM. They only ask for a disc check. They don't cram in SecuRom or any of that crap. EA was really hoping for Spore to sell well on the PC yet it was rated one of the lowest scores of all time of PC games simply because of EA's retarded draconian DRM. SilentNegotiator said it best above in three distinct lines; Customer: What a pain! It feels like I'm LEASING the game. Corporate: Our content is safe! Pirates: LOL, DRM. Real customers who want to buy the game will say screw it, hurting sales. The people who pirate the games will do so anyways, after hackers have gotten around the DRM, again, hurting sales. Either way, the corporate side suffers. Why not just make a disc check the norm? There are millions of consumers who want to legitimately purchase a game, but when they're restricted to only a few installs and only then, they must be online all the time, only to play a game, then who can blame them for not contributing to game sales?
The best options on PC are currently Steam and GOG. And even Steam games are occasionally hindered by third-party DRM schemes (like this one). Any other DRM basically means no PC games for me.
Funny thing is, they layer on this DRM on the PC version, but the console version has been released to pirates since a couple days ago and is one of the top game downloads.
...that ALWAYS happens with major 360 releases....yet the 360 version always goes on to be the top seller ANYWAY.
yep i wonder why there is no drm on the 360 version, since it gets pirated way in advance of the pc.
Fortunately xbox versions also sell well, thus it's not a big concern at the moment. However if it were to ever become like Dreamcast level spread, it would be a disaster. That's why we had a million in ban waves last year.
the dreamcast got hacked so badly because the hackers figured out how to run pirate games without modifying the hardware so pirate games would run on any machine. if anybody ever figured out how to do that with current consoles piracy would explode for those machines.
"3.4 - the dreamcast got hacked so badly because the hackers figured out how to run pirate games without modifying the hardware so pirate games would run on any machine. if anybody ever figured out how to do that with current consoles piracy would explode for those machines." the wii says hi. Anyway, pc gaming isn't exactly dying... console gaming has just grown quite a bit.
Quit complaining. I remember back in the day when games came on floppies. You could only install the game one on PC because of copy protection. Data from your PC was put onto the disk during installation and if it didn't match the original PC hardware, tough luck. DRM has been around since the the days of x386 PCs at least but most of you are probably too young to know that.
when are they going to realise that this crap doesn't deter pirates, not when these systems can by bypassed in days if not hours, all it does it deter legitimate buyers from buying your games.
So pathetic. Do they just have no concept of how torrents work? One person figures out how to crack it, uploads the cracked files, and all DRM is completely void. Someone is going to crack it no matter what and distribute it through torrents. Almost no piracy is from copying a friend's disc anymore so the ONLY thing that DRM accomplishes is to piss off and punish legit customers. I've just stopped buying disc based games entirely because of the BS. Even got the torrent for many games I OWN because they still require the stupid disc in tray.
If they got rid of SecuROM I would buy this game right now , but I will wait for a crack to get released and then buy the game.
And the amount of DRM should hurt us how exactly??? Ahh okay nevermind. 15 time usage only sucks major***!
I get all my games legit off Steam (all 107 of them) but by thinking DRM will stop piracy is stupid, these people come up with solutions to DRM before the game in released. Putting DRM on games makes more people want to pirate because the pirate versions will not have DRM. People that purchase the games with DRM are the only people that are suffering including me!!!
DRM does not stop pirates, it only frustrates consumers. It is funny how many savvy consumers who buy legit copies still use cracks to make their "protected" games play better.
The game is out on torrent sites and cracked a day before its retail release lol.
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