The company says its survival horror sequel is less survival and more action; compares the game's intensity to Modern Warfare and Uncharted.
Im still buying it day 1 just because the first was so good, but this is slightly disappointing. However, I do trust them in that they understand why everyone loved the first one: the atmosphere and tension. It didnt feel cheep in Dead Space, which is why its the best horror game this generation. If the action elements can go hand in hand with with the same tension and atmosphere the first had, then I welcome it. Of course, they will have get rid of backtracking and and have more (and better) boss battles. Edit: @ below Well, you're right. If they do make it an all out action game like Uncharted 2, then it will have zero tension and probably no atmosphere. Im saying, that EA knows that atmosphere and tension are important. So they wont go all in one direction (I hope).
how can you build tension in all out action... uncahrted 2 was awesome, but did it have tension? hmmmm not that i remember... the first did a little bit, with the monsters running after you i suppose... but we already have uncharted, infact we have lots of great action games... we are however severly missing horror games, im soooo dissapointed in EA they are just selling out the series so they can sell more, but with the action adventure scene being so saturated i think this could backfire big time! i was so looking forward to this game!!! grrrrrrrrrrrr EA please please change your mind! we want horror and susspense!!!!!!!!!! ok well i do atleast anyway lol.
comparing the almighty uncharted to a glitchfest like modern warfare 2. modern warfare shouldn't even be in the same sentence as mass effect 2, let alone uncharted
The moment a sequel parts with it's established identity in a vain attempt to one up some other title on it's own grounds, that game just lost everything that made it worthy of a part 2 in the first place. Goodbye Dead Space, we hardly knew you...
Why, why, why, why, why. Oh and one other thing. WHY!
I loved the first Dead Space for it's mix of horror and action...now they want to add more action to make it more like MW2?!? Ugh, this is so disappointing and very very frustrating. What happened to the game industry? Just because a million sheep (i am partly to blame since i got it also) went out and bought MW2 every game needs to aim to be like it? Gimme a flippin break!! I just don't understand this move by EA, they had a great thing going and now they shat all over it. I won't buy it, maybe if they see the sales decrease from the first they will realize they alienated all the fans of the first.
While Morgan is being melodramatic, i still agree with him. Dead Space was awesome and filled the horror void left with RE5 being all actiony. sigh. I LIKED being scared by Dead Space... now they tear it away from me? Weak sauce.
I guess there's going to be multiplayer now then too... *vomits in mouth*
Dead Space accomplished what Resident Evil 5 failed to do...and now they are throwing it away.
What's with all the "oh noes!!" comments? Didn't EA and many other developers try to give us new gaming experiences and most of them got burned heavily and unfairly, while they saw rehashed sequels of stale ol' games and MW2 types getting record breaking sales? WE are the ones who discouraged developers to push new stuff and pretty much cry out "meh, just give me 8v8, that's the sweet spot and good enough" garbage comments. Where EVERY SINGLE game that's a shooter is instantly compared to CoD4 and if it's not exactly like CoD4 but in a different skin, then it's "broken & teh fail"! Well, there you have it. EA is not getting burned by nerdy geeks anymore. They're giving us what we've shown we want. EVERY THING JUST LIKE COD4 - Happy now? lol
Bioshock 1: Epic story, survival/horror Bioshock 2: PEW PEW PEW!! (And multiplayer) Dead Space: Survival/horror Dead Space 2: PEW PEW PEW!! Stop it, developers! Stop it!!!
Congrats EA, DS2 just went from being a day one purchase to a demo first/potential bargain bin grab for me. DS filled the void vacated by Resident Evil when it went all action-adventure on us with RE5.
I was about to say the same thing. Truth of the matter is gamers nowadays want non stop action and are pussies which i have a huge problem with. Dead Space is still a gem to us older gamers but it didn't register with younger gamers that couldn't stomach a good horror survival game. Thats why it didn't make that much money. No one can really blame EA. They are in it for the money more than anything else. Its a sad loss but i have learned to let things go. Young gamers rule the gaming scene nowadays with their love for big macho over powered steroid filled badass trash talking super soldier.
so what does that mean they are going to go the route RE4/5 went where it felt more like an action game if so that sucks not many good horror games left if you ask me
cmbre: Really? I'm only 18 but i thought the first Dead Space was a fantastic game and everything a survival horror should be. I am devastated they are crucifying it as i was really looking forward to DS2. EA were being good, releasing new IPs like DS and ME (Both of which i bought and loved)...Now they are just ruining what the did and turning to crap. DS2 has gone from a 100% day one purchase to a "maybe buy at some point or other."
"Dead Space accomplished what Resident Evil 5 failed to do" What???? I loved Resident Evil 5, had a blast playing it for months. Cant say the same for dead space though. I didn't hate dead space i just found it very boring slow and un-satisfying on topic. If they say that they improved over the first game and made the pace and action likened to modern warfare/uncharted then that makes me very excited for this next game
Wayne, I liked RE5 also. But what RE5 didn't do was provide a true sense of horror. Plainly put it didn't scare people. If you look back on the RE series there were some genuinely spine-tingling jump out of your chair moments. We didn't get that in RE5. Dead Space however was chocked full of such moments. While Dead Space may not have made you in particular jump the fact is the vast majority of gamers that played it will attest to the built in couch spring Dead Space provided.
I suppose since you put it like that, i don't really remember being afraid of Resident Evil 5. I do remember epic boss battles moments of triumph in online play that still won't disappear from the infinity of my mind. I believe saying Resident Evil "failed" to be scary is a little bit of an overstatement, because i had so much fun playing it, in my head it will always be " a Great game". Also i didn't enjoy dead space really so this argument for me is a no brainier even though RE5 isn't scary (which i admit its not) RE5 to me, is the better game
So, after successfully aping a lot of what was great about RE4 they're going to copy Capcom again and take DS2 down the sh1tter after RE5? DS1 worked really well in terms of controls and gameplay and I pray they don't get stuck in the cleft stick RE5 dd by going fully action/horror but sticking with survival horror controls and I'm concerned that this is a move to favour MP over the SP campagn. I love the first game but have to admit this worries me no end we've got ton of acion games and normal shooters and the very best thing about it first time out was the creeps and atmosphere and rationing your weaponry and ammo and noww they want 6to scrap that and go bvalls out? I just hope it works but if they force SP game into co-op with a dim as can be NPC I'll explode in fury! RE5 was killed to accommodate co-op and i looks like DS2 might die to accommodate multiplayer as the first games controls certanly aren't suited to ny MP I can imagine. We shall see.
If you saw the piece of released art for DS2 then you know Issac's new suit looks like it was built for speed rather than the slower pace that made Dead Space such a remarkable title of chilling desperation.
Please, stop. Everything you guys keep telling us just makes me cringe even more. First it's "more action, less horror", now it's "like Modern Warfare 2 action". Think we need to have a moment of silence for Dead Space. It had such potential to rejuvenate the survival horror genre.
.............................. ............................... ............................... ............................ R.I.P Dead Space, you will be missed... sniff sniff.
when the industry and gamers back a game like Modern Warfare 2? Everyone wants to make a game like that. The truth is I liked the Multiplayer a lot but the single player was really bad. The single player in that game was the worst single player I had played all year long. Please devs hear me, DONT make your single player like Modern Warfare 2! For the love of God dont do it!
Dead Space looks to pull a RE5. Horror games are losing it these days. Someone needs to step up to the plate big. I want EA to do that with Dead Space 2, but this is not good news.
I too was pinning my hopes for DS to revive the horror genre. Crap.
I was really hoping Dead Space would blossom as a full-blown franchise, and shoulder all the weight of a failing survival horror genre. It's one of my favorite genres, but it's on life support with Silent Hill being just generally awful nowadays, Fatal Frame being on Wii (and only in Japan), and Resident Evil being a TPS with gimped controls. Dead Space was amazing. Probably the best I've played since Silent Hill 2 and 3. I'm not so optimistic about Dead Space 2 right now.
I just lost a bit of excitement for this game... stay positive! Stay positive!
If you need someone to talk to, ill be setting up, a Dead Space Helpline. 0800 EASUCKSBALLS. Kinda catchy aint it! lol
Weaksauce. If I wanted Modern Warfare 2/Uncharted 2 action, I'll play those games. i guess if I want survival horror, I'll play the first Dead Space.
weak sauce with a side order of lame.
Let me guess.... they are putting more Action in it so it'll be more appealing to the masses? I thought the first Dead Space had more than enough Gun-Play/Action, the last thing I want to see is more Action and less Survival Horror. The incredible amount of tension in the first is what I loved about Dead Space and it seems like most (if not all) of that will be gone if they turn DS2 into more of a Third Person Shooter... my level of anticipation for DS2 has dropped tremendously, but I'll probably still end up getting it day one to see how the story plays out.
For me, this is actually good news. I liked Dead Space, but due to bad nerves I could never finish it. Loved the gameplay though. If they would just tone down the scary parts a little bit I'm sure I would enjoy it more.
man there are other games you can play, and anyway regardless of the horror your still chopping of creatures limbs! didnt that unsettle your nerves? @ below... ok maybe 2 then! lol they are saying themselves, they are gonna cut out the horror and make it more action... do i really need a trailer to confirm it?
ur like u know there something then it jumps out then u pause and cry.
Yea i get that too but then I realize "oh wait, I have a HUGE F'n gun with me" and I go in Rambo style. You want scary? go play Silent Hill 1 or 2. "Hey something is around the corner my radio is going crazy! it's ok though I have my pipe and my hand gun with 15 shots in it I should be ok!"
We should see a trailer first before judging.
I will, but a retrograde step is a retrogade step no matter how you look at it. Sad that MW2 is now something for other games to 'aspire to'.
Oh bugger. This WAS a "first week" buy for me, but now it's slipped to "may give it a miss". Obviously I'll wait for reviews and other such opinion before deciding outright (I mean, the first one was SO GOOD that I don't see how they can kill it completely) but I can't say I'm a happy chappy right now. And some people here wondered why others were bothered by the inflated success of MW2... Now you know.
It's our own fault for making Modern warfare 2 the best selling game this generation. Now everything will be like it, even our survival horror games. This is just sad. I bet Gran Turismo 5 will have a airport level with russian hitmen.
Oh god no!
It could be good, it's a shame they're dumbing down the horror, but it could still be an amazing game, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now, but the reviews will tell all.
I guess the best analogy I can come up with would be going from the original Aliens movie to Aliens 2. Aliens featured mostly suspense while Aliens 2 was more driven with tension. It will be interesting to see how and if they can pull it off.
Dude this is weak. EA you're NOT LISTENING TO THE FANSSSSSSS. COME ON CUT IT OUT MAKE IT SCARY UGHHHHHH.If I see the trailer of gameplay and its constant action, i'm not gunna get it. I can already see this getting 7/10's
wow your logic is flawed.. Games like RE5 which started scary and turned actiony got 10's across the board, how the hell could you know right now that Dead space 2, without much to go on at all, is going to get 7/10?
You stay scary dammit! You stay scary right now!
extremely limited ammo, I cannot stand running out and there being no way to get more. I know..that is part of the genre and you need to place your shots wisely but, to be honest Dead Space was really fun except for that..(and the meteor shooting game, blah)
... you liked Z Basketball. *puke*
WTH is "z" basketball and why would I like it? Is it supposed to be some insult like: "you probably like your sports cars with and automatic."
Nope, no insults. Actually, the fact that you don't know what Z-Basketball is, is in your favor. Be glad you skipped it. It was not good. I drive stick by the way. Edit: I guess I'm too vague. You stated that you didn't like the meteor segment ( which came in 1st place for suckage for me ) and I was surprised that you didn't call out the poorly executed Z- Basketball mini game as well. That's all.
yea i don't get it either...
I honestly didn't understand what you meant. on N4g you can never tell :P I actually never made it through the game, it was fun but the limited ammo really started to aggravate me, and the thought of replaying a whole level again and changing my strategy just pisses me off.
No worries. It's all good.
Fine by me. I like Isaac, i like the enemies, the story; I'm pretty sure even with MW2 Dead Space 2 will retain its horror factor. I mean, you are fighting such horrific things to begin with.. oh and I loved the first one but I had to force myself through it, because it was so scary. The only thing that kept me going was the sheer badassery of Isaac the every day engineer, stomping babies and fighting for Nicole. Didn't much enjoy the horrror as some diehard survival horror fans might of. idk how to explain my situation. I like the Dead space setting, but don't like the horror aspect of it. I am all for this new actiony take on it, and on the plus side the game is gonna look amazing (just like at Deadspace 1) and have some probably awesome multiplayer.
??? without the horror isnt it your usual space station and a guy in armor ... Wich mean basically that you got plenty other games with both without the horror ... so what's the point of playing it without the horror ? Isnt basically Halo there for that ?
Look people this game can still be scary if it has plenty of action. Think about it. You are armed to the teeth with awesome weapons to fight with, there are plenty of necromorphs coming against you in a very dark atmosphere with creepy sounds everywhere. I would be scared if I saw a horde of necromorphs in a spooky atmosphere coming against me, even if I was armed to the teeth.
So you are heavily army and hordes of mutant monster foes arrives ? Sounds more like Gears of war than anything actually scary . You have to be a master and great movie director to pull a scary movie with too many foes , hence why so many zombie flick of late sucks , especially when they copy the trend of adding them running speed , intelligence , or even superstrength . EA's comments make you think along the lines of Michael bay remaking the exorcist . And there is no way that would be great , beside for sfx fanatics .
less terror ,less sell, i take Metro 2033,e and keeping play Dead Space 1
Battlefield Medal of Honor and now Dead Space are all trying to emulate Modern Warfare in some way. Sounds a bit desperate on EA's part if u ask me.
Can't speak for MOH but are you saying that Battlefield is like MW2 because of, What? They're both FPS's. On topic: I could see that it was all part of the atmosphere but I did always kinda wish Clarke's movement wasn't as clunky as he is in DS1. ( Still not a big fan of the new space ninja suit) :(
I'm sorry but they are ruining this franchise already. It's going in a completely different and terrible direction, just like RE5. Too much action, not enough terror and suspense. Everyone is making a huge mistake by trying to reach MW2 status. Stop following others and make your own path. Dead Space was such a huge hit because not only was it an amazing game, but it was what everyone wanted out of RE5.
I'm shaking my head as I type. Someone above said it perfectly, EA just stop telling us what your doing. We're all losing interest. EA aped GoW and pulled off 7's. Now a copy and paste RE5 and MW2? You guys had it right the first time. *head still shaking* :(
Rest in Peace Deadspace, shame that at least Resident Evil had it right for a few games whereas it seems EA is quick to load every barrel with a bullet and still feel lucky.
Not too sure thats a good thing.
I don't think it is.
I hope they redesigned the gameplay a bit. First game was cool, but the whole enter room, kill monsters, flip switch, enter room, kill monsters, flip switch thing, got a bit tedious after a while. It felt like was doing the same thing over and over again.
And there goes Dead Space 2. Poor bastard never had a chance.
As bad as you make it sound I agree. Balls to the walls action means a horror level of -9000. Turn your brain off cause it sounds like you won't even need to ammo manage anymore.
well that sucks