GWN writers discuss the ongoing Xbox 360 reliability issue, the infamous X-clamp, and what should be done to fix the problem in their latest group debate feature article.
The commoner is not aware of the issues, they will continue to buy the system. If this is taken to mainstream media (TV) it would get fairly ugly.
ninamyres is a tard and only posts flaimbait
i nor any of my friends have ever had a problem, im not saying one doesnt exist but if you keep the system cool and VENTILATED then there is no reason for this to happen
i dont believe the failure rate is as high as sony fans would have us all believe and how is it they have all the inside info on how bad things are?
if i have a problem then i will just use insurance to get a replacement i would never bother with sending for repairs, but i havnt had a problem, and dont expect i will any time soon
these storys are getting really old! ninamyres stop spaming this site with your flaimbait!
Sony fanboy worldwide network strikes yet again lol
This article is not flamebait- there is a widespread systematic problem with the 360 system. There is no spin on that. If the failure rate is around 30% then there has to be something done about it. AND it shoul not cost the owners of the system, regardless of how long they have had the 360 for.
While I am one of the lucky ones - my 360 had only froze a few times and I have never had any other problems (touch wood). There is however many, many people that have had to return multiple consoles for repair.
This is unnacceptable for any product.
according to marionz we all 360 owners should enter a state of denial about of dead 360s...
what about mine that died 4 months after I bought it and didnt play it much and was kept in a VERY well ventilated area? what is your excuse with mine?
why did MS added the extra heatsink? cuz they woke up one day and simply decided it would look cool? or maybe it was the pressure that the high rate of fail is getting to the public?
mr. "the thousands of dead 360 stories are made up by PS3 fanboys and lets all be on denial"
and dont worry your 360 is gonna died one of these days if it hasn't died yet but you wont admit it...which is more probable
I got my 360 one month after launch and its been working *flawlessly*, no crashes, red rings or anything... until recently. It sits on my dresser vertical next to my PS3 that I "tried to sell" (10 inches apart & don't use both at the same time). Plenty of breathing room & no sunlight/sources of heat for the longest time.
About three weeks ago while playing Gears of War, the video went out, not the sound (I could hear my self walking & shooting) or anything else, just the video. Powered it off, 10 seconds later, power on and everything's OK. This morning PacMan C.E., yes PACMAN, glitched-up big time: some scrambled video, odd colors, video signal cycled in and out (2 seconds off, 4 seconds on). Needless to say, I turned that sucker off.
hahaha i like the way the only guy that dosent think the failure rate is too high says he dosent think so considering we expect games to be small and quiet too but in reality the xbox is none of those things and it still fails.
buy a refurb it will probley last you longer.
OK FINALLY an intelligent discussion about the issue.
Can't we stop now? This is really all you need to read. Everything else has been fanboy-spew BS.
This has some genuine valuable information.
...fans show how big you are and leave this forum to Xbox 360 owners only. We all know the 360 has not been without problems so we don't need any of you chiming in with your flamebait.
wait till Bill Gates comes along...
if the same can be done on a PS3 article.
Not a PS3 fanboy but at present time that is the only next-gen system I own. So I would like to discuss it with anybody unless their gonna just flame all thread long, TheMart, POG, Bloodmask and others.
agreed fair enough.
I use to own a 360 after 3 failures I said no more. I now own a PS3 Ican play this system without fear of failure no more damn noise, you need to face facts the 360 has serious issues and MS has done nothing for the consumer to fix this problem instead they keep taking the money of hard working people and in return the consumer gets a game console for the price of $399.99 and high probabilty that it will fail, these are the facts.
like PoG,The Mart,JasonGx1 and a few others that have gained infamy with the level of 360faboyism they have showed stop saying utterly ridiculous crap like "the ps3 is a paperweight", "it can't match the 360"....yada yada yada only to have stories like these pop up, EXPECT to get flamed like a charcoal briquet. I see more xbots here spewing nonsense here than anyone else yet they are always the first ones to cry foul.
the x-clamp? Sorry I don't know the answer so please just politely answer this and don't jump all over me.
GEEZ NEVER USED GOOGLE BEFORE?
heh just kidding man..
here you go :)
Thanks man. HAHAHAHAHA people disagreed with a question? wtf
HAHA wTF. seriously. Someone really did.
WHO DID IT? Comon fess up.
Now they disagreed with the fact someone disagreed. Theres your proof kids. DON'T-DO-DRUGS!
Fanboys on both sides are going to continue to praise their console of choice and bash the one they hate. 360 fanboys don't want to hear about the hardware problem because it's negative press about there console. Sony fanboys love it because it ticks them off. Sony fans hate hearing about waiting and no games and yada yada yada. 360 fans love rubbing that in.
It's one vicious circle that seems never-ending.
If you ignore a person for long enough, eventually they will get bored and move on to something else. Responding to them just adds fuel to the fire.
I agree...but I guess some people just wanna feel that they are better or something...
I don't think just because you are a PS3fan you should not read and comment on this news article....I would just hope ALL members make an effort to make a "reasonable" comment....whether its negative or positive. M$ deserves criticism and hopefully the latest measure will significantly reduce the amount of failures to normal standards.
In fact this is the first "new" report that I have read in a long time that seems to take a "fair" look at the hardware failure issue. I mean this is clearly overall not a favorable news article for M$ and it shouldn't be since its clear that M$ has hardware issues, but at the same time its not just about a few of annonymous gamers telling their horror stories, they actually have a honest debate about their experience and give their opinions about M$, the console and what they are thinking in a common sense manner.
I think we can all agree that M$'s console failure rate is waaaay to high.
I think we can all agree that M$ needs to fix it.
I think the only difference is that some of us (most 360fans) believe they can turn it around and some people either have in their honest opinion lost confidence that M$ can fix it or of course some are simply just "praying" that they won't....for obvious reasons. I for one am a "fan" of both [*disclaimer: I favor 360] which is why I bought both consoles and I hope to see them both compete very, very hard over the next few years so I can reap all the benefits. -Yes I'm evil, I know. "Its a good time to be a gamer!" -lol
It's the juvenile "my d1ck is bigger than yours" flame sessions that often ensue following submissions like these. Some people are going to see XBOX failure rate and not even read the article, they'll just flip on the fanboy switch and let the stupidity spew. That's the stuff that needs ignored IMO.
People will continue to flame the other console until the next gen. comes out and then it'll start all over again.
Yes, the 360 has had its reliability problems for SOME people (for some reason, my friends and I are not in this category. Must be luck, yeah that's it.) However, it's an awesome system. They are becoming more and more reliable, and the faulty systems are becoming less and less. What will Sony fans bash the 360 on when the problems are fixed? Certainly not its game library, controller, or Live service...all 3 can't be beat at this time.
I believe that the PS2 systems had reliability issues too, but that didn't stop it from being a popular system. It goes to show what an awesome game lineup can do for a system.
but neither does the denial of the problem by some 'hardcore' 360 owners. You guys can make a difference if your all singing from the same song sheet. the 360 is a great console nuff said. Ps is my preference but even i can get tired of this news being regurgitated. The fact that your own 360 may not have broke (anybody) doesn't mean that your fellow 360 owners who have had problems are doing something wrong and this is somehow acceptable. These threads coming up and people complaining, although tedious actually bring the problems to light and ms will have to deal with this. I don't need to know what the failure rate is just that they will fix it asap. I say this as a friend and relative of a few 360 owners. Banter is fun but this not the time for 360 owners to get sucked into petty crap with silly ps3 flamers. Your focus should be on trying to do more collectively. I personally wouldnt want you to have to pay for repairs. Thats a joke. If ms were footing the bill like the procedure in some countries the ms would act quicker.
As a relatively new 360 owner, I new very well about the hardware failures on the 360, but I still decided it was a better buy than a PS3.
I am surprised the 360 hasn't been on the BBCs watchdog programme yet though, but that is probably due to MS customer service sorting out most of the problems efficiently.
it was on watchdog http://www.youtube.com/resu...
how did i loose a bubble for that
10.1 - rep for you.
To make up for the fanboy fooktards
oh... anotherone of these articles? what a surprise.... do Sony fanboys still get a hard-on over xbox 360 failure attach rate? seriously... you guys need E3... 100+ comments on every related article... and all saying the samething.... this is what I call... beating the dead cat... over ... and over... and over...
and over... and over... and over.... and over...
and when you think is over...
and over.. and over...
What ... you don't like reading bs like "MASSIVE FAIL RATES EXPOSED!!!!! REDMOND WASHINGTON EXPECTED TO BLOW UP BECAUSE WE TALKED TO A MANAGER AT A STORE!!! XBOX WILL EAT YOUR BABY!!! THREE RINGS OF ... DEATH!!!"
wow you hate these articles "oh no not another 360 failure rate article" well guess what SONY fans dont like the fact that just like this story seems to be popping up alot, they dont like the "ps3 is under performing " articles. PS3 fans know that its not selling quite as well and 360 fans know that the failure rate is there....wether or not each side wants to acknowledge the problem of each system is up to them i suppose.
I had the three rings of death with one month left under warranty,and then again four months later!If it happens again I will not buy Microsoft hardware again!
I purchased my first two 360's January of '06, sold one n' the other was stolen shortly after n' replaced 'round Feb or March n' I've had it up 'til May (that's over a year). Neither of them gave me any problems, never saw any rings of death of wtf ever you'd like to call 'em. I'll tell ya tho, area was well vented and I suspended the power brick. How often did I play it? Often enough, played through HALO, HALO 2, GoW (twice), Condemned, Call of Duty 2, Fight Night Round 3, Saints Row, Quake 4, NFS Most Wanted. Thats all I can think of off the top of my head. Numerous Divx n' Xvid movies watched..hundreds of albums listened to with it. I USED the hell outta that system. Never...not once even FROZE on me. That's my story, my cousins had his for over a year and has it sitting on tile, no rings of death thus far. Another family member has had his for over a year as well...no red rings or any other prob's. My homeboy at my workplace...no problems. I'm getting another...how can I not? I've got Halo 3 Legendary pre-ordered for months now...GTAIV droppin' this year..I gotta..n' wont hesitate for one second when droppin' them 4 dolla's on the system. It's the best thang smokin' n' the price is right. I aint knockin' Sony. PS2 is the best console created, have it and owned a PS1 (as well as Xbox).
Now if it were just me who's 360 hadn't failed I'd be a fkn' fool to open my mouth, but it's me n' everyone else I know. I dunno...maybe all the good units were shipped to S. Florida?
Think before you speak...neither Nintendo, Sony, nor Microsoft is paying us to bash the other. N' if the system your cheerleading for "wins", there's nothin' in it for you. I play my systems n' games b/c they're (IMO) the best on the market n' have the most to offer me, not 'cause a fkn logo on the front.
Well my 2nd system died! (lasted 1 yr and 3 months) and my 1st one, a launch unit (bought on Nov 22, 2005) died in 80-something days. My friend is on his 2nd one, and that one is starting to freeze up more and more all the time. His friend is on his 2nd one also. And my roommate knows 6 people who's 360s have died. And thats not even counting all the guys on my friends list who's 360s had died (i'd say around 20+ in a year and a half). So if i where you, i would just consider myself lucky, and hope it never happens to you. But it will, i know it will. Im sure of it.
LMAO it never ends LMAO.
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