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IGN: PS3 Perspective: ME2 is Better than Uncharted

It spiraled out of control faster than anyone thought it would. About two weeks ago, Erik Brudvig posted IGN's review of Mass Effect 2, and in 14 article comments, the fight was on.

"How in the hell does mass effect 2 get a higher score than uncharted 2, I read the game is not perfectly polished, sound cuts out, characters get stuck in the environment and full game crashes occur," wrote IGN user 360andps3ownerJerk. "And you 360 biased idiots give it a better score than U.C2" "PS3 = PWND," Asian Avatar wrote later.

Rather than let Xbox 360 owners have a moment to read and reflect about how awesome their console exclusive was, some PS3-skewed fans high on Uncharted 2: Among Thieves decided to take the conversation to the most annoying depths of Internet hell

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LordMarius2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

You cant spell ignorance without IGN

flamebait awaits....

"I'm telling you that Mass Effect 2 is better than Uncharted 2.
I need you to accept this."

WTF, I like IGN reviews but they are pushing it with this bs

himdeel2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

Ridiculous article poised for hits. What's next are they going to tell me that Gears 2 is better than Wipeout HD?!

I'm a hypocrite because I approved this article because I'm curious to see how hot it's going to get. Also I'll need something interesting to read at work tomorrow during lunch :) I'm sorry.

Edited: For better comparison of two different genres of game

green2364d ago

Anyway in my 22 years of gaming, Mass Effect 1/2 series is the best game i have ever played.

-Mezzo-2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

This article is plain stupid, ME2 is marvelous i'd be stupid not to acknowledge that, but coming out and saying that one is better than the other is stupid and on top of that he's calling other commenter Fanboy's for saying the exact same thing as him.

And i think this is not him speaking this is the hype for the title inside him that made him wright this article, this is normal when you buy a new game and love it you forget the past saying that it was rubbish.

To me Uncharted 2 still owns everything. (But Thats Just Me Isn't It)

redsquad2364d ago

So basically they're saying their opinion is the only one that counts and if someone else says "UNCHARTED 2 is better - You need to accept this", they're 'wrong'?

Reviewers seem to be becomming less and less relevant these days.

Jamegohanssj52364d ago

They best be trolling.

TGSI

Maddens Raiders2364d ago SpamShow
SaberEdge2364d ago

Well, Mass Effect 2 is my favorite game of all time, so I would have to agree.

Saaking2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

WTF? Completely different games lmao. And personally, they're both equal. ME2 is probably one of the best WRPGs I've ever played and UC2 is the best TPS game I've ever played. NO need for a comparison. Still, I had a LOT more fun with UC2 than ME2.

Perjoss2364d ago

why not compare? they are both video games that are designed to entertain, both have third person shooting and a cover system.

LordMarius2364d ago

I guess we can compare

Metacritic
UC2 - 96
ME2 - 96

........Gamers win, IGN looses credibility

SaberEdge2364d ago

Remember guys, this is an opinion based editorial. You should also realize that it was written by Greg Miller who is known for being a big Playstation supporter.

Nihilism2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

Unique sci-fi TPS/RPG with one of the greatest stories ever told...or a linear tomb raider rip off more jagged lines that a serrated knife. M-E-2 I choose you!

Chris3992364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

Seriously, what the F is going on at IGN?

Their advertising partners must be demanding a higher click count. Only explanation I can think of.

Sad that an already partisan medium (games journalism) has what are supposed to be it's pillars crumbling every day - Gamespot, IGN (Eurogamer next?)

They're both spectacular games for their respective genres. Why all the d!ck measuring?

P.S. IGN be damned, WKC is fun as Hell if you like JRPGs.

Edit: To all the imbeciles caught up in this "comparison", what exactly are the similarities?

- 3rd person. Check.
- Different artistic design and color palette. Fail.
- Sci-Fi vs. Indiana Jones. Fail.
- FPS mechanics vs. classic 3rd person adventure controls. Fail.
- Dialog Trees vs. Scripted dialog. Fail.
***And the biggie***
- RPG vs. action/ adventure. And fail.

Let's compare Madden and Mario Cart next! They're both sorta sportyish.

If anyone can't see that this is designed for hits, please PM me with your SIN number and chequing account info. I have a fantastic opportunity to make you a Nigerian millionare! Act fast!

Mr Logic2364d ago

Let me start by saying that I think this is complete BS. You probably know that I am a PS3 fan, there is no denying that. I'm sure you 360 fans are enjoying ME2 and I am happy for you. The problem with this "article" is that it is not fair. I hate RPGs. That includes ME, Fallout, Demon's Souls, FF, etc. As such IMO Uncharted 2 is a better game solely because I enjoy it more.

This whole thing about one game being better than another is wrong, because different people have different opinions, always have always will.

Aclay2364d ago

I could understand with what Gregg Miller is saying....RPG's like Mass Effect is a much more "engrossing" kind of experience because the way you build your character and the connection to the character and story itself is probably greater because of that.

But I still don't think it's right to compare both games like this though because they both offer different experiences and both serve different purposes gaming wise... I mean, RPG's are meant to have more depth, content, and character development than a game like Uncharted.... whether or not one game is better than the other is totally debatable and I'm not about to get into it, lol.

Remmulak2364d ago

From Greg Miller from IGN: "The thing that a lot of people missed, however, is that Mass Effect 2 is indeed a better game than Uncharted 2, and I don't know how readers can be so blinded by their fanboyism to deny it."

He is essentially saying that he is the all knowing of video games.

Ok, so people disagreed with them on IGN's score of ME2 and let them know it. So he insults all people by saying that the people who disagree are wrong because ME2 is better... so he thought he would set them straight...calling them Fanboys.

Wow...just wow. How far has IGN fallen.

ZombieNinjaPanda2364d ago

Having an opinion of which game is fine. To each his own. He can think ME2 is better, some random person can think UC2 is better.

But when you come out and say that your opinion is basically right, and others are invalid, then you're just spouting nonsense.

FlipMode2364d ago

This is exactly why I don't even go to IGN anymore.

Megaton2364d ago

Good job IGN. Attack fanboys who state preference as fact by claiming your preference is a superior fact. The hell happened to the "journalists" in this industry? I shouldn't feel turned off to gaming by reading things at gaming sites.

Rush2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

There completely different genres so its stupid to compare them. Although alot of people on this site are just as bad half of them posting above in saying how wrong it is /facepalm.

I still think this article is a complete waste of time and full of nothing but ignorance. He goes on about how bad it is to compare Mass Effect 2 to Uncharted 2 and how people that are doing it are stupid. Then he goes ahead and does it for the whole article retarded much?

Major_Tom2364d ago

Nah, it easily could've been but there's a lot of sections of the game where Bioware should've done a better job but they didn't.

jmare2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

Really?!!! That's the best you can come up with? Really? How does Mass Effect have one of the best stories ever? Sentient machines trying to destroy all organic life? I liked it better when Ratchet & Clank did it. An open world RPG? Yeah there haven't been any of those before.

And what jagged edges were in Uncharted 2? Maybe if you don't play on a sh!tty TV you wouldn't see such things.

EDIT: Silly 360 gamers and their bullshit. So what exactly is the problem with that picture? Did you go to find one of the oldest images available to try to prove your point?

Darkstorn2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

Both are the top of their respective genres. It's completely irrational to say one's better than the other. If you like RPGs, Mass Effect 2 is better. If you prefer action/adventure games, Uncharted 2 is the game to beat.

Bathyj2364d ago

Apples are better than Oranges.

I need you to accept that.

Nihilism2364d ago SpamShow
damnightmare2364d ago

IGN are pretty pathetic if they had to write an "editorial" like that.

Flamebait for clicks, and they knew it would happen.

@dchalfont, go troll in the Open Zone please. Your just ignorant.

-Alpha2364d ago

You hit the nail on the head.

Two completely entire games from two different genres that cater to two different crowds. I don't mind if he thinks ME2 is better, he is entitled to it, but it's simply flamebait overload.

And here I thought most rational people wanted to put out the fire, not add fuel to it.

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LordMarius2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

Dchalfont, ah still playing that closet 360 fanboy disguised as a PC fanboy
Open Zone that way -------------->

Edit: yeah you also dont own a PS3 but I still see you commenting on PS3 articles....bashing it always

Danteh2364d ago

man, hell is going to be unleashed in this article... get cover.

Luckily I'll be soon enjoying Mass Effect 2 on my PS3 ;)

DMason2364d ago

I like Mass Effect 2 because of the engrossing story line and robust character development. I think about playing it when Im at work.

I like Uncharted 2 because it gets my blood pumping and it is an extremely polished, wild ride. I think about playing it when Im at work. (when it came out at least)

I think the problem here is that he's disturbed by the fact that he cant give a game a higher score without dealing with some crazed fanboy. It seems as though some are very protective over their games. And yeah it might be better to him, but hes the one reviewing it and thats all that matters.

The only way they're comparable is that they're in the same medium. Not everyone's going to like Mass Effect 2, and not everyone's going to like Uncharted 2. Everyone has a right to their own opinion.

Major_Tom2364d ago

Nice purposeful low res pic of Uncharted 2.

You still have much trolling to master.

TheBand1t2364d ago

lol, That wasn't even a screen of Uncharted 2 you jackass. That was Uncharted 1. Massive failure.

Darkstorn2364d ago

Exactly. While I personally think ME2's story and character development is superior to Uncharted's, the fun factor and level of polish in Uncharted is absolutely untenored (oh, and it has better graphics...)

Also, fellow PS3 owners, it's highly possible that we will get Mass Effect 2 on our console as well, so hating on ME2 is not in our best interest as a community - we'll just have TWO genre-defining games on our console.

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Digitaldude2364d ago

LOL anything on IGN is lame.

Godmars2902364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

You had me at IGNorance...

Who was it that was calling for an end to the media fueled console war? Really guessing that it was nobody from IGN.

Bathyj2364d ago

You know dchalfont, you can say you like ME2 better than UC2 or you think the graphics are better, thats all opinion and your entitled to it.

But when you flatout state the game called best graphics of the year or on a console by 95% of games journalist and more importantly, gamers, "looks like crap", then you're really just showing how untrustworthy your opinion is.

I dont know if your a fanboy or not, but you opinion is definately worthless.

movements2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

Bubbles for that quote my friend!

Immortal Kaim2364d ago

Anyone else get the feeling that this is a complete p*ss take, and that they have accomplished what they set out to do? :)

You guys are easily stirred...

baum2364d ago

I was willing to accept that 51/100 for WKC and 7/10 for MAG just because it came from them (not that I care what anyone thinks, but I was willing to respect their opinion); after all, they are IGN, the most respected gaming site on the web. They had a few sh1tty editorials last year, but I thought "oh well, it must be a slow season". But now that ME2 and U2 are out, gamers are busy, and instead of conforming to both consoles having their respective killer apps or whatever you want to call them, IGN has to step in and make a public display of IGNorance.

Another reason to stop caring about "professional" opinions.

popup2364d ago

Dear brick wall,

This article really carries no more weight that any comment on this site. It is just an opinion by someone that plays games at work.

If he wants to compare Blade Runner and Indiana Jones point for point and look stupid doing it then there is plenty of space on the Internet.

For those who care enough about entertaining themselves with videogames rather than stupid childish wars then I would recommend playing (and enjoying) both games.

It simply sucks to have to own all this hardware to play all these titles.

SaberEdge2364d ago

"But when you come out and say that your opinion is basically right, and others are invalid, then you're just spouting nonsense."

But don't you see? That is exactly what he is responding to. All the PS3 fanboys that flooded into IGN to tell them how wrong their reviewer was for giving Mass Effect 2 a higher score and claiming that Uncharted 2 was better and acting like it was a fact. PS3 fanboys are known for this behavior.

rambi802364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

its sad to see IGN whore themselves out like this

EDIT - I'm surprised whore made it pass the N4G filter - wonders what else can make it through

Rainstorm812364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

bubbles @ 1.38

Both games are great ME2 is one of the best games ive played on 360 the same for U2:AT on PS3. It's a tough call.

But IGN just had an article downplaying "Console Wars" then throw a live grenade of thier own.

Edit: Come on saber edge it goes both ways. With fanboys from the other side not giving any respect to any game on the PS3, you dont have to look far just scroll up and look at dchalfont's comments on U2:AT.

People on both sides downplay good games on the opposite console. (If your not really a gamer) Me I personally just like good games reguardless of the console.

Rockox2364d ago

"Haunted House" for the Atari 2600 is better than both games combined, for realz.

blind-reaper2364d ago

Man IGN is too good for this flame tactics... someone needs to get fired (not because he is wrong or right, but because IGN can't fall into this estrategies).

Greywulf2364d ago

yea.. BTW Jinxtar, this is Greg Miller.

OpenGL2364d ago

I don't understand the need to compare these two games as they are not all that similar. Both games are great and both deserved to be played by every gamer.

callahan092364d ago

You know what? **** IGN. They have no credibility left. It's quite clear that these so-called professionals can't keep from fueling the flame-wars. How can anybody take them seriously anymore?

Maddens Raiders2364d ago

Congratulations IGN, you have managed to undermine the credibility of all & I mean all future reviews and comments/editorials from your site with this contrived hits for gifts stunt.

I will never click on your site or affiliate sites again, ever. I don't care if it's a 10/10 30 minute video review of GT5 that gives the first thousand visitors free tickets to race a Skyline around the Ring with free beer & naked models afterwards (well, that would maybe be the only way). Good bye.

Aquanox2364d ago

Lol...

This is full of fun. How can you guys feel so offended about this, Mass Effect 2 is better than the best PS3 game to date. I know it can be a bit annoying but if you played this beauty you'd know that.

No wonder why PS boys are lurking into game codes to find a single clue for a possible PS3 version of the best game in years.

UnSelf2364d ago

idc how good ME2 may seem to be, no i havent played it but i purchased and finished ME1 and must say i was satisfied. The sequel can only enhance so much without taking away sum things.

Now u show me one thing in UC2 that was sacrficed or wasnt enhanced in the transition frm its predecessor.

Uncharted 2 is beyond good, this is the closest a game has been to perfection.

Bigpappy2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

ME2 is on a much larger scale than UC2. IT has many stories, much more variety in every facet of the game (choice of words, weapons, powers, ...). ME2 also has more chicks to sleep with, more emotion, more customization. Mass Effect is just more, and all of it is great. Games like UC2 should sell for $50 new. WRPG's like ME, Morrowind, Oblivion and fallout3 deserve $60 price tag. Game like Bayonneta, Darksiders and God Of War, should retail for $40 new. I usually wait for those types of games to drop in price because I trade them in a few days after I buy them. They are all fun and some look better than others, but a $60 game should give you that feeling ME2 gives.

Amended: If he had said UC2 was better, there would have been no talk of apples and oranges. I am sure Mr. Miller would not have written the article if PS3 fanboys didn't go to the 360 review and start talking sh!t about how much better UC2 is. PS3 fanboys got this weird loyalty code. It is so obvious that ME is on a much larger scale that a liner action game like UC2. Even if UC got 10/10 from IGN for action and graphics, ME would still be a better game to most reviewers and gamers because of the sum of its parts. BTW, if you played ME2 with a mouse and keyboard it will not be as emersive as if you used the controller. The feed back help you feel the different kick back from weapons, explosions and heavy robots. Feedback is more important than making the game easier to play by pointing and clicking.

UnSelf2364d ago

so according to IGN GTAIV is better than ME2?

WTF IGN STFU GTFO POS

jmare2364d ago

It's like comparing pizza and burgers. Both get the job done when you are hungry. But some people prefer pizza over burgers and vice versa. Some people like both and it all depends on the mood they're in. Neither is inherently better than the other, it all depends on individual tastes.

sikbeta2364d ago

Way to hate dchalfont lol

How many times I need to tell you That The Console Manufactures Didn't Killed Your Pet

Unbelievable, guy you actually hate UC2 only cuz is a Console Game, how you can say the game is a "linear tomb raider rip off" when you probably never play it, well, knowing How Much you Hate Everything that's not a PC

Play the Game FIRST, if want to talk [email protected] about it, at the end you are like the majority of fanboys in this site, weird if you don't have any of the 3 Consoles for the sake of your Almighty PC

On-Topic

Way to Go IGN, next time make an article saying that MW2 is better than HL2

PATHETIC

Geriatric Hero2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

Holy crap! This has to be a new low for IGN, and thats saying something! This rant is complete and utter flamebait with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. True hardcore fanboy stuff. And people still think these guys are professionals?

This is basically just some idiot stating his opinion as fact and arguing that other people "need to accept this". Heaven forbid if anyone else has his own contrasting opinion! You're not allowed to think for yourself. EPIC FACEPALM

I've played through UC2 and loved it. I'll be picking up ME2 soon and when I finish it, I will make MY OWN MIND about which one is better. And you know what? It will be just my opinion and other people are free to disagree.

Aquanox2364d ago

Be PREPARED for the Fanboy sites flooding N4G in desperation for this herecy.

NewZealander2364d ago

i own uncharted 2, and mass effect 2, and ive got to say mass effect 2 is hands down a better game.

uncharted 2 is awesome dont get me wrong, but its awesome because it takes what has made other games great and mixes it till its nearly perfect, its one of the best action games ive played in years, not much replay value is its real weak point.

mass effect 2 is like a block buster movie that you get lost it, the universe is almost fully fleshed out, its not just a game, its as close to being there as you can get, and i cant wait to finish my game so i can play it all over again.

DaTruth2364d ago

That was just the stupidest thing I ever heard. I am God of video games, what I say, goes! Your opinion is irrelevant!

He just said that in the review to spark controversy! They must have low site views recently!

CWMR2364d ago

-I own both games and they are each some of the best games in history. Uncharted 2 is the best action/adventure game I have played and Mass Effect 2 is the best RPG I have ever played. But Mass Effect 2 is still almost on another level for me simply because of the depth of the experience and the amazing storytelling combined with action gameplay that is honestly as good as anything else out there. Uncharted 2 is the best at what it does, but Mass Effect 2 is so much more.-

goflyakite2364d ago

It's official, any game that's not an RPG or without RPG elements will never be as good as an RPG. -IGN

And IGN totally knew this was coming, and probably wanted it to happen. You don't just rate one (semi)exclusive .1 or 1% higher then another exclusive on an opposing console for no reason.

mikeslemonade2364d ago

Nope the general consensus says Uncharted 2 is better. Calloborating 75 reviews from different sites Uncharted 2 has a 96.19 where as Mass Effect 2 has a 96.07 after 54 reviews. Normally scores go down the more times it reviews so probably once Mass Effect 2 gets 75 reviews the score will be a 96.0.

And Uncharted 2 still has better graphics which is a fact. Gameplay is a matter of opinion.

II-Reaper-II2364d ago

HEY!!JUST IN!!WHEN IGN SAYS A GAME IS BETTER THAN ANOTHER THEY ARE WITHOUT A DOUBT CORRECT BECAUSE THEY SAY SO.LOL..360 FANS AND PS3 FANS SHOULD UNITE ON THIS ONE AND NOT SUPPORT IGN.THERE R SO MANY GOOD SITES OUT THERE.DO NOT SUPPORT THIS SITE WITH THIS '' OPINION'' BASED ARTICLE AND TRYING TO STATE IT AS FACT.COME ON GUYS U KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.

duplissi2364d ago

you know threads like this are actually very informative- they let you know who has an iq of 4 and who actually has an oppinion worth hearing.

dchalfont you my friend are a moron, its one thing to have an oppinion about what game is better but to try to say (rather hatefully i might add) that the game that won countless awards for best graphics looks like crap is just willful ignorance.. just like what bath said your oppinion isnt worth a damn.

i own both games, and did i love every damn second of both. they are two different games where the only similarity is that they are 3rd person and you shoot stuff. both are of INSANELY HIGH CALIBER that its like comparing lamborginis to ferraris, or porche, or pizza to cheeseburgers i mean come on their all awesome but it comes down to personal preference.

ReservoirDog3162364d ago

I was wondering when someone would say this. Took IGN. God...

How about this unbelievable suggestion: They're both good. Not even good, great.

Why fight when you can just play both.

Plus, MGS3 is still better than either.

harrisk9542364d ago

I HATE when websites review a game and then write more articles lamely defending themselves and justifying why they reviewed a game in a certain way. You never see this in any other industry. Movie reviewers don't write follow-up articles on why they reviewed a movie in a certain way. You don't see Ebert giving a thumbs up one day or Entertainment Weekly giving a "C" to movie and then defend themmelves the next just because people disagree with them.

It is ridiculous. Write your damn reviews and be man (or woman) enough to accept whatever criticism is thrown at you! This is why games journalism is such a joke!

Christopher2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

I actually prefer ME1 over ME2. ME2 is a solid 9/10 game for me, but ME1 was a solid 9.5/10 game. The same score I'd give Uncharted 2.

As far as which is better? They're incomparable, so don't even attempt it.

I also don't see what this has to do with this sad and pointless 'exclusive' wars considering ME isn't an exclusive title to one platform. Did I support the idiotic fanboys when I bought ME1 and ME2 on the PC?

rroded2364d ago

kinda ta be expected non?

Rainstorm812364d ago

Its like comparing Bentleys to Rolls Royce or Maybach, y choose when you can have both. BTW RPGs will always have more depth than action adventure games. Its a dumb comparison. next lets compare Super Mario 64 to Final Fantasy 7