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Sony is "breathing down" Microsoft's neck, PS3 to pass Xbox 360

Sony's senior VP of marketing and PSN boss Peter Dille says they're closing in fast on Microsoft and the Xbox 360; won't need 10 years.

While not predicting anything, says Dille, "we'll pass them" and adds Microsoft missed their opportunity to "sprint as far ahead" as possible.

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TheDeadMetalhead2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

Considering the PS3 has been outselling the 360 since it launched (remember, the 360 launched a year before the PS3), I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.

Bungie2284d ago

yeah it's actually good news

now that sony is closing in , M$ will have to step their games up
and that's good news for all gamers

competition = better games and services = happy gamers

remember when people was talking trash about ps3 when it's launched
now they have improved free online and a lot of good games

good luck to both $ony and M$

lociefer2284d ago

dude , u need to see a psychiatrist, i think you got Schizophrenia

Jamie Foxx2284d ago

and i actually agree with what you said,i prefer ps3 but i respect 360 for making sony up their game so it should work visa-versa

THE MAX SPEED 212284d ago

even if sony outsells the xbox it will take are really really long time to make up for the millions xbox has in the lead. And its not like 360s will stop selling all of a sudden. so no matter how big numbers sony makes ms also makes some.

Jamegohanssj52284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

I wish Sony would breath down my neck. Sounds kind of kinky >>.

Anyhow isn't PS3 like 4 million behind? At one point it was 8 million year. At the end of the year they'll be neck and neck. Pretty Selling Machine.

TGSI

TheDudeAbides2284d ago

I mean seriously Xbox is going down

Nihilism2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

...and PC still remains the most profitable platform while the peasants squabble over the scraps, funny that.

12.7 billion in 2008 for PC game sales...not bad.

You may continue bickering now.

P.S

When you kids argue, just remember - The Nintendo Wii is increasing it's lead every day :)

@Baum/Jimmy Page

You clearly do, because like the other sheep you flock to an article about sales. Does it feel liberating being a marketing tool for a company that does not care about you?

Bungie2284d ago

seriously the only way for M$ to keep up with $ony is Natal IMO

if the market the hell out of it and the casual gamers like it, the sales could be very strong just like what happened with the Wii

Guido2284d ago

All it takes is another price cut and the PS3 will completely demolish the 360. What can the 360 do? Nothing. Even a price drop there just shows their desperation since they drop the price at any sight of the PS3 gaining. You can only drop the price of the 360 so far before they are actually paying us to take them off their hands.

Halo3 MLG Pro2284d ago

Where do you get the idea the the ps3 has been outselling the 360 since launch? That statement is an epic fail. If I remember the 360 beat the ps3 last holidays by around 1.5 million.

nix2284d ago

Peter Dille: Yeah, we do. I'm confident we'll be around in 10 years and I can say that because we've done it twice. PS3 will be around in 10 years and probably much longer than that. I have my own opinion, but I'll ask you the question. Do you think the 360 will be around in 10 years?

IGN: My personal opinion is no.

---

the irony is that this "piece" of news is getting hotter than the original one.

sack_boi2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

"I mean, we've got 31 million worldwide right now -- they've got 39 million" -- Peter Dille.

That's great, the X360 is only 8 million ahead of the PS3 after all and if you factor in RROD and all the X360 owners that have at least 2, 3, 4 X360s (in case one breaks), I'm sure Sony has already caught up in fact.

Gratz Sony.

Triella2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

Yearly global sales (aligned launch) these are the numbers from VGC (so likely a bit 360 biaised)

First year on the market
360 : 1,180,000
PS3 : 1,230,000

Second year on the market
360 : 6,710,000
PS3 : 7,640,000

Third year on the market
360 : 7,820,000
PS3 : 9,710,000

Fourth year on the market
360 : 11,030,000
PS3 : 12,270,000 (probably slightly more after adjustement)

Fifth year on the market
360 : 10,230,000
PS3 : available on 31.12.2010

sack_boi2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

Just for laughs, please tell us where your numbers are from.

EDIT : @Triella
Lol you got rid of them. What happened?

EDIT : @Triella
Oh, they're back again. lol
So where are they from?

Nihilism2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

Why don't you do a list of year on year profit figures and I'll tell you who 'won', hint: it isn't Sony. I've seen the figures.

@Imalwaysright

You need to change your user name, because you're wrong.

Blizzard has a monopoly on the MMO market and they are 1000 times more successful than every other MMO. The MMO market is not tha majority of the PC market either.

"those profits are not from game sales and 3rd party developers know that"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

PC has no first party games, because no one owns the platform, all games are third party, lol, massive self ownage.

ME2 is a multiplat, not a port.

While you continue to be ignorant i'll let you in on a little secret:

PC has more exclusive games each year than every console and handheld combined.

Imalwaysright2284d ago

Any Idiot knows that the PC is the most profitable platform because of MMORPGs. Hell i know people that burnt their whole paycheck in one minute on MMORPGs so, no, those profits are not from game sales and 3rd party developers know that. IW knew that, EA knows that (ex:Spore), Bioware knows that (ME2 is port from the 360) and Remedy knows that.

RedHurriKane2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

The world is a lot bigger than just North America. You should try to go outside every now and then. The interwebz has made you ignorant.

Guido2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

"Where do you get the idea the the ps3 has been outselling the 360 since launch? That statement is an epic fail. If I remember the 360 beat the ps3 last holidays by around 1.5 million."

The 360 had sold nearly 11 million units by the time the PS3 was launched in North America. The PS3 was then launched months later in Europe. Today the PS3 is at 31 million sold and the 360 is at 39 million sold. Now, figuring this I see easily how the PS3 has outsold the 360 year to year since the lead the 360 had has now dropped to 8 million and not the 11 million they started with.

Also, Sony accomplished this with a console that debuted 200 dollars more than the 360 when it was launched. The PS3 has always been the most expensive console on the shelves and yet sells more year on year end worldwide. You can spin it all you want but the facts speak for themselves.

RedHurriKane2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

Guido wrote:
"The 360 had sold nearly 11 million units by the time the PS3 was launched in North America. The PS3 was then launched months later in Europe. Today the PS3 is at 31 million sold and the 360 is at 39 million sold. Now, figuring this I see easily how the PS3 has outsold the 360 year to year since the lead the 360 had has now dropped to 8 million and not the 11 million they started with.

Also, Sony accomplished this with a console that debuted 200 dollars more than the 360 when it was launched. The PS3 has always been the most expensive console on the shelves and yet sells more year on year end worldwide. You can spin it all you want but the facts speak for themselves."

QFT

PS: Pwned!

Let me go ahead and say the next comment:

"So so........it doesn't matter, who's winning?! That's right, the 360 is!"

*looks at the Wii*

sikbeta2284d ago

Ah... All of you were talking [email protected] about PC or something?

Hilarious, nobody was saying PC is not making money or anything bad about that, but for some reason always appear a Post showing How Almighty The PC is

Poor Bungie, man this kid is really f#cked up, he's a really crazy pal

On-Topic

Peter Dille is Right, I mean the PS3 launched a year ½ later than the x360 and was the most expensive Console of the Three, its outselling x360 since it was launched and for obvious reasons now at $300 more people is going to buy a PS3, If we can see the Amount of people that were waiting for an Affordable Price, from now on we'll see the remaining PS2 userbase make the Big jump and go for the PS3

kewlkat0072284d ago

This is news to me, I thought it was around 4 million posted on N4G.

WTF....

Montrealien2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

Bungie is a troll yes, he knows how to push your buttons and play you guys like a fiddle, yes. But that comment was as sensible as they come. And disagreeing with it kills gaming fairies and punches puppies in the stomach.

and Triella, why dont your numbers not match with the ones the head of marketing at sony claims?

DaTruth2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

Competition is good for the industry. I don't know if I'm just more informed than last gen, but the sheer amount of quality games for both platforms is insurmountably huge and leaves me in awe. If you can actually afford the time to play them all, you have no job and can't afford the money; If you can afford the money, you have a job and can't afford the time.

Most of us have a job and families/school and too bad there isn't more time in a day! I might have to give up sleeping!

@Dchalfont: You're so obviously Everfighter it is ridiculous! Still playing the 360 fanboy disguised as a PC fanboy and trolling the PS3 news!

@Kewlkat: Microsoft announced there are 39 million XBOX 360's "around the world"; Who even knows what that means!

ChrisW2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

While ten years might seem nice, technology advances too fast these days. Those who like to play today's PC games [like me] at the fullest graphical possibility know that upgrading is a must every 2 or 3 years.

Besides, the PS2 was only released 7 years before the PS3. And I wouldn't mind if it was less than that.

Mike134nl2284d ago

The more Sony and Microsoft fight the more gamers profit. Neither Sony or Microsoft are going anywhere at this stage.

mint royale2284d ago

Sony say the 360 is 8 million ahead? That can't be right the exec is probably talking MS sold figures compared to estimates of ps3 sellthrough. The gap I would have thought is between 5 and 6 million.

commodore642284d ago

LOL ^^^

so, Sony's senior VP of marketing and PSN boss Peter Dille says the gap is 8 million, yet somehow the guys on n4g know better than he does?

How does that work exactly?

DOes this mean we get to cherrypick the senior SONY executive quotes to fit with our agenda?

oh goody!

kewlkat0072284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

I trust N4G's numbers more so then anyone else....though

LOL

Raz2284d ago

O_O

That's the smartest thing I've ever heard anyone say about anything.

Bubbles+ for that. Brand loyalty is just a noble name for a personality cult.

Aquanox2284d ago

"I mean, we've got 31 million [units sold] worldwide right now - they've got 39 million [units sold]. I don't even need to go out 10 years," he quipped.

8 million difference confirmed, directly from Sony's mouth.

And to think it was a 6 million GAP at PS3 launch, what is this guy babbling about? lol

Solidus187-SCMilk2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

But I thought it would have happened alot sooner.

Even when ps3 passes 360 id still consider this gen. to be a disappointment for sony, and surprisingly good for microsoft.

Its not disappointing to me as I have both ps3/360 and they both have plenty of great games.

But sony has gone from two time champ, to currently being 3rd. Even when they are in 2nd nintendo is still way ahead and they have lost massive amounts of market share while nintendo and microsoft have increased theirs.

Its good for sony taht their doing better now but I HIGHLY DOUBT that back in 2006 anyone here or at sony would have been hoping that the ps3 can take 2nd place by 2011.

Noone expected microsoft to put up such a battle for the ps3, and noone expected the wii to sell faster then the PS2 did. And mostly, noone expected sony to still be in 3rd.

Things are looking better for sony and the ps3, but I dont think their goal was ever to struggle to get to 2nd.

But it doesnt matter to me as I REALLY like what I am seeing from Sony and Microsoft this gen. And I think that the intense competition between sony/microsoft and the unexpected success of the Wii has caused both sony and microsoft step up their game amd deleiver the goods/take more chances.

Monchichi0252284d ago

I don't think we'll know who wins till after this holiday season. MS is creating great Buzz with the Natal project and nobody knows how the mass market will react to it. I mean, MS is pretty much putting all there fortunes behind it this holiday season with a new "Launch" with as much marketing budget as the original launch.

And even though I think I'm going to prefer Sony's wand myself, there is no buzz behind the thing so it's looking like a total flop for them. But let's wait till then before we make any solid conclusions.

But all in all, gotta agree with comment above that competition is GREAT!!!

The Maxx2284d ago

Bumped for source purposes...=)

Guido2284d ago

For North America alone there was a 6 million unit sold head start for MS. Worldwide it was nearly 11 million. Too bad you can't read or you might have seen the posts above yours. MS's lead has shrunk from 11 million to 8 million and is shrinking faster each year. Please, feel free to post thought inducing posts of factual material and stop with the silly lies and FUD talking points you stole from the Microsoft PR book.

we won2284d ago

So Sony says PS3 is 8 million behind?

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mint royale2283d ago (Edited 2283d ago )

@guido

When the PS3 launched in NA the 360 had sold 5.5 million. By the time it was launched in Europe the 360 had sold 7 million. And no the gap now is not 8 million its more like 5-6 million as this Sony exec has clearly got confused with sellthrough and shipment data. Your the one who is an idiot.

IdleLeeSiuLung2283d ago (Edited 2283d ago )

Fast forward now, the official numbers now are 31 million for PS3 and 39 million for Xbox 360.

That means the gap widened 2 millions in the last 3-4 years to 8 millions.

What will change in the next 4-5 years that will give them the lead again? After all we got price drop, redesign, AAA graphically superior exclusives and plenty of marketing and Sony is still just selling about what MS is selling. I don't see anything changing, unless Natal or the Wand is a hit. What can they possibly do, but get a temporary boost from maybe God of War 3, GT5 and FFXIII. There are almost no other games that are system sellers.

Unfortunately for Sony, the wands don't appeal to hardcore gamers and the casuals see no reason to jump on PS3 when they can have the Wii. Natal also faces an uphill battle, but it is at least a differentiating factor.

Will it even matter when we move over the the next generation of consoles?

TotalPS3Fanboy2283d ago (Edited 2283d ago )

I am sorry dchalfont, but no one really cares about the PC.
Why? Because this article is about Sony breathing down on Microsoft's neck. It has nothing to do with the PC.

Right now, you kinda sound like this...

dchalfont: "but the PC! the PC!!! everybody, please pay attention to the PC!"

And that's really off topic.

RememberThe3572283d ago

Stop the f*cking presses! That was freakin hilarious!

@Halo MGL: You got your numbers bassackwards there buddy.

Anon19742283d ago

According to Sony's official data there were 27 million PS3's sold at the end of the last quarter (end of Sept).

If the PS3 is only at 31 million now, that means it only sold 4 million from October through the holidays. It's not very likely that they sold that few. VGchartz has them selling over 6 million between Oct and Dec, and VGchartz has historically lowballed PS3 sales. This would put the PS3 currently over 33 million as of the end of December.

I guess we'll find out exactly what the number is when the Q3 numbers come out tomorrow, but I'm guessing 31 million is low.

Maddens Raiders2283d ago

are you (or related to) LightningPS3?

On Topic
=========

This is not really news but an update on the quickening. Good job Sony.

BWS19822283d ago (Edited 2283d ago )

normally I don't get bothered by your comments when they're in pertinent stories about PC games since I have a nice rig I built myself and love PC gaming, but when you come in here (not the first time) and beg for relevancy and acclaim when clearly you have no investment or interest in the topic, you sound like you're groveling or something. You're giving PC gamers a bad name. And then you go and pull out the Wii card and defeat your own argument about consoles being pointless. The PC is a very unique platform, as you'd know, so it's not really apples and oranges, so go along and take your orange and be happy with it, the rest of us will enjoy a nice selection of fruit. :)

baum2283d ago

I only meant that I don't care about what you say. :)

Oh, and agreed with the poster above me.

KingME2283d ago

Sony Exec says PS3 is at 31 Mil and the 360 is at 39 Mil, and some one actually said he has to be wrong because VGChartz had them at 27 at the end of September. Is that just simply an ignorant statement or what? Additionally, PS3 fans traditionally state that VGChartz numbers are wrong anyway.

Personally I don't think it really matters who passes who in ten years. Bottom line, whichever one ends up second to the wii is simply the best LOSER. As WIIIS1 says below, with all the with all the advanced features of the PS3 it's amazing that it hasn't gained much ground at all on the 360 since launch.

EVILDEAD3602283d ago

The best part about this is if a Microsoft exec had made a similiar statement..3 quarters of the entire comments section would a been going absolutely bezerk about how Microsoft keeps Sony's name in their mouths and how Sony Excecs NEVER talk about Microsoft..

What even funnier is the Sony Exec stating that there is an 8 million system sales gap between the two and average fans who work nowhere NEAR Sony headquarters are disputing the guys own figures..Classic

Look it's no secret that the PS3 Slim jumpstarted the PS3's momentum in a big way. But, facts are fact, people are still buying Xbox 360s and it's not going to stop in 2010. In fact...ESPECIALLY in 2010 with Micrsoft making a great case for a historic year for it's console.

In the end, if Micrsoft pulls past 50 Million install base then no developer is going to ignore the big numbers put up in the software sales department.

Plus, in a few years it won't even matter..the new systems will all be released and it will be an entirely different ball game.

Should be a fun year to watch both of them duke it out..but there is nothing wrong with an exec showing confidence in its system (unless it's a Microsoft exec that is)

Evil

n4gno2283d ago

Max speed, more than 2 millions more in 2009 (in 4 months, before that xbox was leading), only a few millions to catch = a question of 1 year, 2 maximum.

by the way, 3,5 millions more, if the numbers are reals, it means nothing, they don't do money with consoles sells and you have to count dead machines, "double" xbox (for cracked firmwares + live) repair, marketing, etc cost, etc : the most important are games sold, bluray sold (!), accesories, psn/xbl games sold, etc (for games, it's similar, great scores with big fat halo, modern warfare, but 3X more ps3 exclusives, ms paying exclusives, and some multi selling better on one or other, but bluray's $, direct or not, make the difference)

NewZealander2283d ago

sony have done well to close the gap, MS had a shocking year in 2009, its going to be interesting to see what happens now with all the big exclusives in 2010, and the launch of natal.

if sony keeps the heat on then its going to mean both console manufacturers will play hard and continue to offer the customers great new things for some time to come.

cayal2283d ago

people are getting confused with Sony's sold and Microsoft's shipped number.

But hey, fanboys will read what they want to read.

NinjaAssassin2283d ago (Edited 2283d ago )

I suppose that is why the 360 still has a larger lead now compared to when the PS3 launched? The lead is 8 million now and the 360 only had a 6 million lead when the PS3 came out.

My prediction is that the PS3 will not catch the 360 this generation.

Anon19742283d ago (Edited 2283d ago )

By the time the PS3 was launched worldwide, the 360 has sold 11 million consoles compared to less than 2 million in the PS3's limited release in the US and Japan. Once the PS3 was available worldwide it's been all PS3.

Now, the 360 sits at 38.6 million as of the end of December according to Microsoft's data released a couple of weeks ago. The PS3's holiday numbers haven't been unveiled yet and won't be until tomorrow, but as of the end of September the PS3 sat at 27 million consoles and it's expected that they moved 6 million or up this holiday season worldwide.

That puts the PS3/360 gap closer to 5 and a half million, not 8.

At any rate, Sony planned to have moved 13 million PS3's by the end of the fiscal year. If they succeed, and 360 sales continue as they have, by the end of March the PS3 should be at 35.7 million versus the 360's 40 million, closing the gap further so there's only a difference of just over 4 million.

Of course, that's if Sony hit their ship estimates and 360 sales stay the course (1.7 million less the 12% year over year declines the 360 experienced this holiday season for this quarter we're in now).

Many analysts predicted 2009 would be the year the PS3 overtook the 360. It looks like the recession just delayed that by a year if everything continues as it is now. And I remember, back when these predictions were made, 360 fans claimed "Who cares! By that time the 720 will be out!" Doesn't look like that's very likely at this point with Microsoft planning to push Natal as a new console launch.

lukewind2283d ago

LOL at all the idiots who believe this!!!!!!!!

Pistolero2283d ago

Even by Sony's own admission the PS3 is 8 million behind the 360....and we know that the 360 had sold 6 million by the time the PS3 came on the scene...so this means the PS3 is farther behind now than it was then...the PS3 will not catch up this year or next...there is no way in the world that Sony will sell 8 million more PS3s this year than the 360...and I don't think it will catch up at all.

Cueil2283d ago

they don't have the resources to go head to head with Microsoft at this point... certainly in North America the game has been over for some time

arny2283d ago

Okay PS3 might pass XBOX but it was not outselling since its launch it actually had a failed launch it only started outselling XBOX after the launch of the PS3 slim version

scoobysnacks2283d ago (Edited 2283d ago )

To clear up the Xbox 360 sales numbers. Microsoft’s 2007 CES keynote speech states they sold 10.4 million Xbox360’s as of December 31st, 2006. Check the link below.

http://www.microsoft.com/pr...

The PS3 launched in Japan and America, 11 Nov. and 17 Nov. 2006 respectively, and Microsoft sold 2.7m units in this 7 week time frame. Basic math, 10.4 - 2.7 = 7.7m. The Xbox360 was not at 6m as some of the Xbox fraternity here are saying, and likewise it was not at 11m as some of the Sony PS fraternity are saying.

Now to this topic, for those that are jumping on the comment made by Sony’s VP Peter Dille about 31m vs 39m, and then saying the difference is 8m because Peter Dille just said so, patience, perhaps you should have waited until today, you know, Sony’s report for the quarter. Its the reason I didn’t post a comment until now, to see what Sony had to say. The figures are out, and yet some idiots are still saying the same thing even with this new information available.

Darkride66 (above) was correct with the approximation of the gap now being just 5.5m. Sony have stated that 27m PS3 had been sold upto Sept 2009 (go google it, or go look up old news stories on this site), and Sony have just stated again in the link below that 6.5m PS3’s have been sold between Oct-Dec 2009.

http://www.n4g.com/industry...

So that makes the PS3 at 33.5m, regardless of what Peter Dille said yesterday. The comment he made yesterday was generalised so as not to spoil Sony’s announcement today. Common sense really, a pity some on this site seem to be short of this valuable trait. Some MS fans would like to believe the gap between the two HD consoles has increased in the 360’s favour, but its actually shrunk by 2.2m units. The gap is now just 5.5m as of Dec 31st 2009. Microsoft's official figures given in January of 2007, that put them at 7.7m at the time of the PS3 launch, and Sony’s latest quarter report today clearly show this.

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Bungie2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

good to see sony is doing well

M$ really screwed themselves up with the RROD

baum2284d ago

lol^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^lol

WIIIS12284d ago

Actually that does really put things into perspective doesn't it? Against a console with RROD, no blu-ray and online that isn't free, it speaks volumes that PS3 has yet to overtake 360 after so many years.

ChrisW2284d ago (Edited 2284d ago )

It seems like many/more people are disagreeing with you. I wonder why...

D4RkNIKON2284d ago

Haha bungie is so bipolar.. You are such a troll and you say the worst things about anything PS3 related and every now and then you try and turn the tables. Why would you do that? Bubbles? Well every time you try, you end up getting hammered with disagrees and end up losing more bubbles. lol

ThanatosDMC2284d ago

Bungie is a good laugh so early in the morning. HAHHAH! Bubbles for him!

Aquanox2284d ago

It seems that Sony boys disagree with people not with opinions. Bungie isn't saying anything unpopular in N4PS3G.

gumgum992284d ago

I think Bunngie bumps his head every morning before posting, so A different side of him comes out everytime. >_^

IdleLeeSiuLung2283d ago

That is my point all along.

For all the things that Sony does right, it does seem that they are only selling as good as the 360.

Consider the PS3 has:

- price drop, redesign, massive AAA exclusives and huge marketing this year
- blu-ray, six axis motion, wifi built in, ard drive standard
- free online
- 150 million user base to live off

Consider the 360 has:

- RROD, E74, Disc Read Errors (DRE)
- pay for online
- over priced accessories
- (according to PS3 fanboys) sub-par and generic exclusives

IT DOES SEEM ODD THAT THAT THE PS3 isn't taking over the world with their $300 price tag!!!

BWS19822283d ago (Edited 2283d ago )

seriously, nobody is legitimately that ignorant to Bungie's MO, you are either insane or sarcastic. Take your pick. Everyone but apparently you knows why he's here and what's been doing here since he arrived. How are you missing it? Or are you just trying to be sarcastic?

We disagree with him for who he _really_ is, not because he makes a switch-hitting post now and then to be comical. You need to wake up to your naivety regarding fanboyism on this site (like Bungie's and yours) and maybe buy a second console, that'd help most of your issues.