Bioshock 2 is set to release on February 9th in North America on the Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. If you're planning to purchase the PS3 version of the game, you'll be required to install a mandatory 5GB of game data to play the title.
5 GB is not that big of a deal ps3 owners shouldn't really care personally i'll get the 360 version coz all my friends on XBL
and lets say you have about 20 games and maybe 6 or 7 have an install of around 5gb, thats almost all or at least half of your space, Kinda sucks. I know, hard drives are cheap as hell right now, but still could be kind of annoying to have to go back and delete files from older games. I know I play older games all the time, I just played the first uncharted again about two weeks ago. But, hey, why do I care, I have a 160gb ps3 so whatever.
if you had the $$$ to purchase the PS3 when it was considered expensive (with the 20gb,40gb,60gb or 80gb drives)... an additional $40-$100 shouldn't be too much for a 160gb-500gb hdd upgrade! Now is a good time to take the plunge! Edit: @SilentNegotiator why not double your space for the same price (it's the exact same drive I have in all 3 of my ps3's). WD is a better hdd than Seagate, I just sent back 5 Seagate drives for my customers (they tend to have more bad batches than WD)! http://www.tigerdirect.com/...
5GB is pretty steep. I've been meaning to upgrade my 80GB HDD. http://www.newegg.com/Produ... 250GB 2.5" SATA for $90. Good deal. Especially compared to.....well, you know.
Wow, if 360 fans were as bad as PS3 fans we would be making a huge deal about how yet another game on the PS3 requires a mandatory installation and how installations take minutes to complete compared to the few seconds switching a disc takes.
This is good, Installing equals better performance, Would of preferred for an optional install but Mandatory suits fine with me and 320gb PS3. @SilentNeogatiator You can get a cheaper 5400rpm HDD on Amazon. Not sure if it would make a difference if you bought a 7200rpm, Anyone know if helps reduce loading times? $56.67 for a 320gb http://www.amazon.com/Weste... @Gamer2010 I'm guessing you're talking about Final Fantasy XIII because for your information Final Fantasy XIII doesn't have optional or mandatory installs and it has zero loading screens and Installs are there to help reduce loading times, add Better Performance, to ensure high game quality, and etc. Swapping discs doesn't do that especially when the content is compressed as FFXIII is for Xbox360.
Why get a 250GB for $80 when you can get a 320GB 7200 RPM for $74? http://www.newegg.com/Produ...
@bungie i'm pretty sure you won't play on either platform if ur spending your whole time in N4G
its amusing that the people complaining about the installs are the one who doesnt own a PS3 to begin with... installs = short loading times and no system overheat installs are good.
Bungie, you're trying too hard to get your bubbles back. Don't be a faker please, we all know the kind of hypocrite that you are. You been doing this for some time now and many people have seen you editing your BS. I'm a PS3 only owner and even I find this annoying specially in this day and age.
On the topic of upgrading: My internal drive is 80gbs and because of having a 1tb external (@$100) I haven't felt the need to upgrade my internal drive. Making space for game installs should only be a problem for 40Gb owners as 20/60Gb owners had the cash for the early adoption price so a few bucks for an internal hdd upgrade shouldn't be too hard on them. Recent post on this subject. http://n4g.com/RedirectToOb...
Bungie is gonna be one of them legendary trolls people don't forget. I hope he sticks around for awhile.
"personally i'll get the 360 version coz all my friends on XBL" Bungie your a moron you don't own a PS3. Plus why should it matter about your friends? there is no multi-player..
Correction: There is multiplayer! :D
Lol wow. Good thing I'm not getting this Bring on Heavy Rain. TGSI
If your name was "360 fanboy 2007" you would be! There just aren't many 360 fanboys left anymore. They are now called dual console owners!
Same as the first and a sign of the developers being unable to port it over with shorter load times. Not that big of a deal, but a sign of the lack of progress from Bioshock's development team.
So I guess Quantic Dream are just bad developers too huh since Heavy Rain requires a 5GB install too? I thought so
1. I didn't say bad developers, I said lack of progress, specifically from their first port of Bioshock to the PS3. 2. Yes, it doesn't speak well for me that Quantic Dream has the same issue. Especially considering it's a console exclusive and they had the resources with which to make it unnecessary. Neither are bad games, but the inability to develop a game without large install requirements is a sign of developer inability in my book considering what other games have been able to do, both multiplatform and exclusive titles. Especially this late in the game. Edit: Honestly Blaze929, you really should look at someone's post history before you act like you understand how they think. You might find we're not all just blind fanboys of one platform or another.
Who cares? I've never complained about PC installations, why would I care about having to install on a console that also does everything?
I then decided to buy a bigger 160 gb hdd, and then decided to upgrade it again to 500gb 7200rpm 16mb cache. Apparently this is a cool running 7200rpm drive. I can only hope as when I installed it I did a full format that took over 28 hours on the ps3 just to make sure all the sectors doing good. The reason the change in my option was because I didn't like the extra wear and tear on my blu-ray drive. Speed wasn't as big an issue but this 60gb is getting old and I keep a digital thermometer above it. the thing just radiates so much heat that if I leave my room door closed it'll heat the room. Extending the life of my 60gb is what matters to me and I feel these installs aren't permanent so what the hay ,I'll install them anyway. So long as you own a backup drive of equal or grater storage backup external drive.
@ inveni0 lol Bioshock 2 PS3 Has 5GB HDD Installation who cares ? me for one, least with the PC you can get a CD crack or patch to have the whole game on the HDD on the PC no need for the disk. Ive got a 500gb HDD so not to a big deal, but annoying for 20/40/60 HDD owners. If Uncharted 1&2, Batman, Killzone, Motorstorm games and a few other dont need big installs why does Bioshock 2, is it the Devs ? come on 3 years now.
dont put a 7200rpm drive in the ps3. it creates a lot of heat, the software is based on a 5400 drive, and sony does not recomendo.
PC version is 11 gigs off steam... Thats the one I'm playing cause I'm pretty broke lately. Split it 4 way and payed 35$ Also got the first one free...
"PlayStation 3 owners have the luxury of upgrading their hard drives. But with more data storage built into a Blu-ray disc, you shouldn’t need to monitor your hard disk space, right? Wrong! The list of games that require game data to be installed are piling up."
PLUS all the updates = LOL guys, I hope you have dealt out the cash for some BIG hadrives !
I replace my 80 gig with this:
http://www.newegg.com/Produ... Western Digital Scorpio Black WD3200BEKT 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache 2.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Notebook Hard Drive
I honestly haven't had one bit of trouble with it. It runs fine for me... *shrug*
Anyways, a 5 gig install is a bit steep if you are short on space, but for PS3 owners, it's really cheap to get more of it.
It is because of the slow blu-ray drive. I wish they would of done this with Killzone 2 it got a little annoying when playing the game and there would be slight pauses when it had to load more data.
@SilentNegotiator 90 bucks for 250gb? lol i payed 100 for 500gb wd scorpio blue WD5000BEVT, and it has much better r/w times (try almost 3x as fast) than the stock drives even though its only 5400 rpm! it was @ best buy. it compares well to most 7200rpm drives, because it has only 2 platters which increases data density on the disks, most 500gb drives are 3 or more platters. edit: here it is @ newegg and cheaper too! http://www.newegg.com/Produ... @lord vader haha thats funny considering my 500 gb hard drive cost less than a 120gb xbox drive...... and its about 4 times the size, and it will be even less than the 250 whenever ms gets around to releasing it over here.
Why should I have to spend more money just because so many games on the PS3 require mandatory installations? I bought an 80GB model and I don't care how cheap hard drives are. It is an extra expense and extra trouble to transfer all your stuff over and install the new hard drive. If it weren't for all the mandatory installs my 80GB hard drive would be plenty enough for my saves, demos and media. People acting like mandatory installs are a good thing and saying that they improve the game are not considering the fact that most of these PS3 games that require installs do not perform better than the 360 versions anyway. In fact, many games that have mandatory installs on the PS3 version still load slower than the 360 versions.
"I rather put the disk in. Go get a cold beer and sit and play my game, then get up and swap disks when I have to go to a different part of the game" By the time you swap disk I reckon, I should be good for a REFILL.
damn with all the mandatory installations and updates the ps3 is plagued with it really fills up your hard drive fast. 5gb is a lot. sorry, but i would rather switch a disc every now and then over dealing with this crap.
Makes you wonder now that you think about it, now doesn't it. 0.o
Well, Saberedge, maybe you should just go buy a 360. Think of all that money you'll save by not upgrading the hard drive! you can put that money towards accessories!!!! yay! /s
You install it once and you're done. I fail to see the problem.
You suffer fewer compatibility issues if you buy the 5400rmp drives. here's a 500gb one for £60. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wes... This compares to the Xbox 360 120gb for £50. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Xbo... That's over for times the storage space for only an extra £10.
Just like disk swapping, big deal?
easier than disk swapping...pretty much a non issue to most ps3 owners wouldn't you say?
Yeah a non issue, just like disk swapping. 5min for an install, 1 min (at most) to swap a disk, again, a non issue.
I rather put the disk in. Go get a cold beer and sit and play my game, then get up and swap disks when I have to go to a different part of the game. U know u right!! I wish bioshock came in 3 disk!!!! :/
Every game should take advantage of a install. Why disk swap when you should install both disks before playing it. I don't play any Xbox 360 game without installing it to the hard drive first. The performance of games are better then. There is a reason why you install pc games rather than playing them from the disk. (Installing the game mutes that pesky disk drive also.)
How many 360 games have more than one disc? How many PS3 games have mandatory installs? http://www.perezstart.com/s...
I'm simply trying to emphasise the point that both disk swapping and mandatory installations are a minor inconvenience. I honestly don't know how you can 'prefer' one over the other, when they both effectively do the same thing (limit you from playing the game for a certain amount of time), unless you're a hypocrite of course :)
About a third of all PS3 games have mandatory installations. There are over 800 games on the 360 and there are probably less than a dozen games that are multi-disc. This means less than 1% of the 360's games are multi-disc.
Well, it's at the start of the game so it can prepare you for the later game when 1080p/lossless audio cut scenes. Then, when you come back to the game it's ready where you left off and never have to worry about using another disc. It's just ready to play the full game. You might not like HD content. But FF is known for having great cut scenes. best to watch those on 1080p and the game in 720p.
Lol Kaim I think the fanboys on this site have eaten enough humble pie for 1 day. Its such a lovely community here at N4G. I have read countless articles the past few days, where the PS3 fans have been very very worried about the 360 gamers health having to switch discs in FF13. Your all such a bunch of lovely guys caring for them in that way. And look the 360 gamers couldn't give a toss about your mandatory install. What wankers am really disappointed in them.
Many X360 games are on one disc because devs are working with the limitation in mind and that's why we have gimped games like FFXIII and other games like Star Ocean that when come to PS3 have full voice over, additional quest, characters and story pieces. We, PS3 owner don't whine because of swaping discs, that's just stupid... We whine because of gimped games that could have had so much more content and as an example I just mentioned Star Ocean IV. But Star Ocean came a year later so this is not a problem for the X360 version but for a game like FFXIII it would affect sales so Square have to gimped the PS3 version too to make both version equal and have good sales on both consoles. How many more times this has to be repeated for you people to understand? I think I'm just going to save this in my computer so when this issue comes up again I just have to paste it.
You typed that same garbage last time before I completely owned you with basic logic I won't repeat myself twice. Since you have an extremely shot memory span here's the link. http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-... Seriously do you ever get tried or typing the same moronic BS.
"How many 360 games have more than one disc? How many PS3 games have mandatory installs?" - soda popinsky I agree! I don't use my PS3 too much, but if I did my 40GB would have filled up to the brim with required installations by now. My 20GB on the 360 would still suffice.... on the other hand if I upgraded it (which I did with an Elite), the price of the hard drive itself is ridiculous.
And then you also have to account for all the updates every game requires you to install. When my friend popped in LBP on his new PS3 Slim we had to sit through 28 of them, some being up to 2gb in size. Batman AA also had some seriously heavy updates.
Now you know how 2007 felt! Eat it up!
@ Soda - I see you don't care to understand there is ALSO an operative word in the title of that link ~ OPTIONAL of which there were quite a few. PLUS there were a bit of "unknowns" listed, so that link is not as bad as you try and make it seem.
Don't lie you just sound dumb. Ima write that off as sarcasm and give you the benefit of the doubt. Either way the installs imply lazy development when it's a multiplatform game. The game can literally be no larger than 9GB, which means they're installing more than half of the game on the HDD. If you're gonna be that lazy, why not go all the way and just make the game a PSN downloadable?
It Only Does Mandatory Installs
360- it only does rrod and burns houses down.
FFXIII doesnt have. whats your point? go kill yourself or something, atleast we can upgrade whenever we want, installs are the best I wanna protect my blu ray lens, go play your crappy 360 where dvd scratches your disc get lost.
Enjoy getting off your fat ass to swap disks... http://vgtribune.com/wp-con... See, I can be immature also.
so much anger i can understand that getting flop version of Bayonetta at the beginning of the year then MAG FAIL bad and Heavy Rain proven to be a bad movie and you just found out that White Knight Chronicles is another EPIC FAIL and you have to save $$$ to buy a bigger HDD to watch Heavy Rain and play Bioshock 2 i'm sorry but that's just SAD
you know what's sad? the fact that you have to troll on a gaming site 24/7 just to attack a goddamn piece of plastic. what, mommy didn't love your enough or something? you have to attack a gaming console? i guess sony came to your house and whooped your sorry ass until it got red. yeah, that would explain why you're so butthurt. you have no games. you have no ps3. you have no 360. you are not a gamer. GROW UP.
I notice this has become somewhat of a ritual with 360 fanatics. use a character from a renowned PS3 exclusive and then proceed to bash the game, console it's on into oblivion. Rinse and repeat. In fact one could say this is very STALKER like behavior. Get some help you need it. Face it, you work for a mediocre software company who..... WILL NEVER BE APPLE WILL NEVER BE SONY and WILL NEVER BE GOOGLE. get over it.
hey bungie, you're also a coward. you block people from messaging you when they out you in your place. you act like such a big boy online but you're a complete wuss when someone calls you out.
CRY me a river i deal with people like you all the time i even have over 30 death threats (PMs) all i do is ROFLMAO + insult + block
i know the comments make you cry so that's why you're so quick to block. you are a coward. you act macho online but offline you're a lonely kid who probably didn't get enough loving. i fail to see what pleasure you get from doing this. keep slamming disagrees with those accounts-you're only proving just how much of a sad individual you are. do you play games? answer me. EDIT: in other words, you don't own sh*t.
Bungie, since you like talking about hard drive space and what not, take a look at this ownage: http://www.xbox.com/en-us/h... Any other bots care to get owned?
There are many 9 scores for mag its hardly a flop. WKC is a jrpg, not many people will like it. Bayonetta is fixed it runs as well as the 360 now. Darksiders is superior on ps3. and regarding heavy rain : * It's not real game. It's full of QTEs. * It's a long glorified choose your own adventure. * Uncanny valley. * Voice acting sucks. * It's created by David Cage. Ew. * The script sucks (never mind that I haven't played the game). * The storyline will be awful just like Indigo Prophecy (even though I haven't played the game). * It has 4.2 GB installation. * The cover is fugly. * I don't like female characters with short hair. * I am homophobic and don't want to see male butt. * It's on PS3 and I don't have one. ya ya we know bot
sorry ,but you're no worthy of an answer i'm a first class gamer , i shall not downgrade myself and waste my valuable time on you
Poor Bungie, he's been owned so many times in this thread alone that he can't even come up with something good, much like the Microsoft first/second party studios. It's okay, Bungie. We know you only have a single multiplatform for this quarter. No one is surprised to see you daily commenting because of the lack of games you play.
"you know what's sad? the fact that you have to troll on a gaming site 24/7 just to attack a goddamn piece of plastic." You mean like 90% of the PS3 fanboys on this site do? An article about the 360 version of FFXIII having 3 discs has mostly PS3 fanboys trolling, telling us how horrible it is to have to switch a damn disc. This article has a few 360 fanboys, but at least it isn't completely overrun with them like every 360 article is overrun by PS3 fanboys. You guys don't have a leg to stand on. Collectively the PS3 fans have done 10x as much trolling on this site, so sorry if I find it hard to get sympathetic about a few 360 fanboys in an article about mandatory installations on the PS3.