PS Uni writes: "We can also reveal here at PlayStation University that there's also sections of code in the Xbox 360 version of the game (within the ini file) that reference the PS3."
Mass Effect is coming
ps3 got no games
another M$'exclusive' bites the dust. and another one gone and another one gone, another one bites the dust. SC:C we're gonna get you too, another one bites the dust.
360 got no games. :)
360 got no games of their own.
Buy a 360... to play multiplat games XD
I'm cumming... ughh...awwwwh.. FUUUUU
I guess everyone who wants to play the game can be happy now. TGSI
I own ME for my 360, I`ve been holding of on buying ME2 for my 360 because I`d rather play it on PS3 (since I like my PS3 more) Anyway, looks like it coming to PS3 which is great for PS3 only people. I just hope they put both games on 1 disc. Hopefully they fix some of the problems in the 1st before they put it out (if they re-release ME1).
I mentioned this in one of the other threads, by default the Unreal Engine has PS3 code included by default. Finding a reference to the PS3 in the settings could just easily be leftover, redundant code that they didn't do anything with. However, I personally think it's only a matter of time until ME comes to the PS3, given Bioware is more than capable of making games for the PS3 and given EA's love of all things multiconsole. Bioware made ME before EA when their resources were a little more limited. I remember talking to a Bioware guy regarding the EA buyout and he was pretty excited about the added resources that EA brought to the table. It very possible the only reason we didn't see ME already on the PS3 was a resources issue. The other possibility is that it could be an agreement issue with Microsoft, but I see no reason why both Bioware and EA wouldn't jump at the chance to open up Mass Effect to a new market.
"Some have said that this may be left over code from the multiplatform Unreal Engine 3, but the above is definitely game code and not engine code (though you might like to believe it, Paragon and Talent Points are not part of UE3)."
it probably will come to ps3, its EA after all. if MS was smart they would have bought bioware back when they planned mass effect to be a trilogy, i bet they are kicking themselves now.
i say confirmed :)
I didn't actually look at the web page. I assumed it looked the same as the PS3 code I saw from the first Mass Effect. My bad! Those type of variables certainly aren't default code. Those variables are named on purpose. That's a pretty big clue. It's funny because I'm currently in my Unreal Development class right now and should be creating new mutators, not talking about PS3 code. :) Back to work for me!
This is going to be hilarious. Since ME2 is allegedly the BEST GAME EVER CREATED. Ever. Wonder how they are going to knock the PS3 version... No online?
But when I saw this line: "m_srSpendTalentPointsMe ssagePS3=348755 m_srParagonRenegadeMessagePS3 =153007" I gotta say, I'm a believer as well.
You have your "O"-face on?
Lack of foresight. Don't be surprised if Splinter Cell comes to PS3 a few months later too. 3rd party exclusivity is extremely rare, and Splinter Cell has appeared on PlayStation formats before, so I don't see why they would completely cut off part of their fanbase.
The Mass Effect Trilogy on PS3 is inevitable. Third party Xbox software rarely stays exclusive.
I hope people understand that there is default UI code from the UnrealEngine. This could mean they just didn't remove it or that they worked on a PS3 version already as well. Wouldn't get my hopes up, though. Oh, and article writer, big arse DUH! that the 360 code has the PS3 references and PC references since the PC has all 3 as well.
Is that microsoft would let exclusivity slip in a contract with Bioware. Still think M$ should have bought bioware. They're one of the few developers that's pretty much guaranteed to make money.
I doubt BioWare and EA would make a game for PS3 over an year later when they know when devs do this games sell more poorly than PS3 exclusives. If this jibberish holds any water it's probably engine related and not specific games. I know ME2 is a Blockbuster AAA PS3 fans need to be involved in but this is just the first game for the 360. Are you guys going to do this with every AAA 360 console exclusive game this year? (IT'S COMING TO PS3) But again the PS3 crowd tends to do this when the PS3 lacks games for the year.
this is the same thing they found on bioshock and look at what happened ps3 bioshock and they said it will never happen :>
I have a question for you guys to think over and comment on: Why is it that all third party exclusives are always timed when it comes to the Xbox? It's down right lying to the consumers if you ask me.
because MS doesnt have strong first party support......so they have to lie about things being exclusive
One problem I have this gen. I find Devs lies disrespectful. Ms must be doling out the cash to shut up devs which makes them side with money over fans. A game being a timed exclusive is not a big deal, it's lying about it. Rockstar, Bethesda, 2K, and SE should be kept an eye on and not to be blindly trusted.
Here's one to ponder.. Why does it matter? 360 owners get to play the game. It seems to me it's for the fanboys more than anything.. I find it funny how it's now considered an exclusive when everyone goes out of there way making sure to point that it's multi platform. I just think third parties are taking the piss out of single platform development. Just like FF14 now looking like it's coming to the 360 as probably will games like Versus and Agent..
Microsoft aren't helping 360 owners by doing this... They are just delaying ps3 games with money that could have been put towards making games, keeping ensemble open, bringing new firmware features etc... Sony are doing things the right way, they are making games with their money.
Actually, Bioware never lied. They just never told the truth either. Whenever they were asked about a PS3 version they would either respond with "No comment," "We're not talking about that right now," or "We are only talking about the Xbox 360 and PC at this time." When I watched their response to the same question on Gametrailers TV I was instantly convinced that this would happen.
it is lying, and it sucks, they even lied about the GTA DLC that they paid all that cash for, its a cheap and nasty way of claiming they have exclusive games. whats next MS? i can see splinter cell being timed too, and if mass effect is coming to ps3 why wont EA just man up and tell people, its not like MS has any right to the IP.
Well, it's false advertising and misleading. A gamer who has a platform/s that doesn't have a much wanted game may feel like he/she may have to buy another platform to play a game. Then that game finally comes to their favored platform. It's not right. MS' 360 has lost how many so called exclusives this same gen? Now ME looks like it may show up on the PS3. Gamers that may prefer the PS3 may have bought a 360 or buy the game for it, maybe buy it for the PC or upgrade their PC to play the game. Now Bioware has "no comment" about a PS3 port. If it comes out later it means they lied. I know some think anything falling under the umbrella of business is fair game but that is nonsense. Lying is not acceptable and not every business is run without ethics. Unfortunately gamers, especially console gamers allow themselves to get run over. State if a game is timed exclusive or not is all most gamers would like.
@lavalamp That is blatantly not true. Theyve said on the bioware forums multiple times that mass effect will only ever be available on 360 and pc.
SMH @ Microsoft I'm a huge 360 supporter but how can I argue when these exclusives keep getting lost lol
It seems like no third party title is safe this gen...
Why would a PS3 owner want ME2 without 1? Going from the IGN review ME2 references to the first one A LOT and was their only negative. Maybe these people should start looking at the ME1 code.
Presumably they'd release both on one Blu-ray.
I doubt both would fit, since I believe they stream textures from the disk (which is why there was popin in the first one) and even with the speed of the 360s drive there was still popin. So all the textures would need to be uncompressed, because of how slow bluray is, which could take up a lot of extra space. Also their engine was designed for the 360/PC so if they want to prevent a mandatory install they may need to store even more data on the disk.
Omega, Blu-ray will hold both games twice over. Don't worry.
"Also their engine was designed for the 360/PC so if they want to prevent a mandatory install they may need to store even more data on the disk." Isn't UE3 a multiplat engine?
i swore the unreal engine was multiplat....i guess ps3 never had titles using that right?
streaming textures ? what's the point ? did you forget that every PS3 has a hard drive .?? Just do an install and there is no problem. You make it sound like it's a technical problem when the pc version already doesn't have this problem at all thanks to ... the hard drive in every computer ...
Omega...a dual layered Blu-Ray is more than 40GB which is enough space to hold both games like someone said, even twice over. Besides, all PS3's have a mandatory HDD, so even if they design it to dump load on the HDD, then too it won't matter to most. "Also their engine was designed for the 360/PC"... pfft it's Unreal Engine. The game can be ported to a iPhone as well if the hardware was there lol that engine is that versatile. Looks like someone is upset that the game is coming to the PS3.
I doubt both would fit, since I believe they stream textures from the disk (which is why there was popin in the first one) and even with the speed of the 360s drive there was still popin. So all the textures would need to be uncompressed, because of how slow bluray is, which could take up a lot of extra space. You doubt they'd fit? A blu-ray can hold 50GB unless ME+ME2 was 6 disks then I'm fairly sure it'll fit with room to spare. The code wasn't optimized, I'm fairly sure that the pop-in wouldn't be such a large problem. Blu-ray spin speed is slow but it's MB transfer speed is infact higher than the 360's minimum. Plus they have the OPTION to install it to hard drive.
So your solution to Blu-ray read speed issues is to make textures take up even more disc space?... If Blu-ray read speeds were really an issue, Bioware could simply add a 3-5GB install as other developers have done in the past. I think that would be more than worth it for PS3 owners if it meant getting a chance to play these great RPGs.
Mass Effect - 7.5GB Mass Effect 2 - 15GB That's 22.5GB, so stick it on a 50GB disc, have the uncompressed textures and an install, slap it in a box, call it a day. There's no technical reason why it wouldn't work on PS3, it's only UE3. Hell, I know for a fact ME2 wouldn't be an issue due to the load screens and the fact it's a lot more linear (no planet exploration).
altho i do see ur point, especially when i hear about the whole u can use ur me 2 save etc. but take me for example, i bought the original mass effect but just couldn't get into it, but then i hear that me2 is a massive improvement which fixed any problems i had with the game. chances are i'll play and enjoy me2 without having played the first... altho i will prob still get this either for pc or my 360 rather than wait for confirmation of a ps3 version. It wouldn't actually surprise me if we did see one though but not for a while
Well, I think Bioware are on record as saying you DIDN'T need to have played the first one to play and enjoy the second. I've not seen the IGN review(stopped reading them last year just because I no longer think they have writers that do any great work, sadly)but the one's that I have didn't seem to mention you needing any first game experience to play the second installment however much it might be a nice thing to have done for all the details and such like. Back fully OT, though, wasn't the PS3 ME2 thing put to bed a while ago? I'm sure one of the head guys at B/W sorted it out pre release after the last round of contradictory statements and rumours that there were, and still aren't any plans for a PS3 version of any Mass Effect games for Sony's console, didn't he? It was a "sort this out once and for all" type message as I remember it so I'm never very sure what to think about the constant rumblings about the platform status of these games. Anyway, I'm no expert on any kiond of game code so haven't an inkling what all the PS3 tags turning up in the PC code are all about, whether they make a PS3 version likely, possible or certain. For all I know it could mean nothing or mean they aborted a PS3 version but not all the code from it got squished away properly-there's a shedload of code so mistakes and oversights must be possible if the code is inactive, no? I mean, we get loads of buggy games anyway, don't we? Oh, whatever? Does this mean anything? The one reason I've never really been one to assume that it would come to PS3 was because we heard all the same about L4D. We had "Valve are with EA now and they're always making multis", "EA make more cash from PS3 than 360", "they made sure HL2 got to PS3 in tOB even without Valve' help-even if they id do a crap job of it!"-and what happened there? No Zombie killing for PS3 gamers(though given the poor state of L4D on 360 compared to PC who knows just how crappy a Valve PVC to PS3 port would be as they only see any console as a way to make a quick, shoddy unsupported buck in my experience), even now. So, what makes ME,ME2 and Bioware so different to Valve and L4D? I'd love to imagine more gamers would get to play such a great series and, even though I realise it was bought n help rather than themselves that made it, the DA:O PS3 version was pretty good quality considering it was their first ever attempt at it. However, IK at all-it's gone rumbling on for so long that I'm tempted to thnk there has to be a publishing roadblock with MS partially(at least) holdng some part of the IP here-or we'd surely have seen ME1 before now, no? Still not biting on this coming to PS3 no mtter how sure and gleeful some PS3 followers are about it or how laughable some 360 zealots are in their blase "never gonna happen" 'tudes-it just doesn't seem like stopping and I'm starting to think Bioware are being damn clever n occasionally allowing a litle more fuel out to fan the flames on this one. It keeps them and their games on gamers minds and lips and that's great for Bioware as it puts them in a great position with the money men at EA if and when porting might become a real issue. I'd like it to go to PS3 so some of my PS3 only gamer pals can get to play it but I'm not sure, not at all, about whether it ever might.
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@deep: I like the sound of that... especially if cost $60 bucks. It worth every cent of my money if such thing happen :)
Wow you guys love your bluray mastiffchild has a point what about L4D that still has yet to make the jump are there were loads of ps3 rumors too, not sure if there was ps3 code in them but its still EA. If Biowares relationship with MS is like Valves then you guys maybe outta luck
because Valve own the L4d rights and they dont seem to be fans of the ps3 at all...unlike bioware who likes working with the ps3 and has said it many times that it would be no legal issue bringing Mass Effect over to ps3
Valve is allowed to decide what platform they put their games on seeing as they are a completely independent studio. EA doesn't even publish their games; they are merely the distributor of their physical copies, so their cut is not as large as it would be if they actually published the titles. Bioware on the other hand is actually owned by EA, and they have already released a title for the PS3.
You don't need to play 1 to understand 2, Bioware have done a great job making the story make sense without having to play the first game.
Omega won't even believe it even if EA and Sony came out and announce it together. The level of denial is astonishing.
OpenGL-Yes, I realise there are big differences between the relationships between Vavle and EA and EA and B/W. Thing I'm pointing out is that people assumed that just because Valve were in bed with EA to whatever extent that games like L4D would also make it over to PS3(why else would EA be interested in the deal, people argued)while I took the fact EA HAD to port tOB themselves as a very real sign Valve really had no intention of ever workng with Sony's console. Perhaps, if their experiment with that port of the Source engine had gon a little better EA MIGHT have done the same, who knows? That said I honestly feel Valve are SO PC centric that it smetimes makes their console efforts look very pale in comparison to what they offr on PC-L4D is unrecognisable for me on 360 and I doubt it would exist even on an MS platform unless the dev tools happened to be, as they are, remarkably similar, which allows Valve some relatively lazy, easy porting. Anyway, given the quality of their PC games an the lack of it on their 360 ports(on a platform they say they like) just how bad would they make PS3 ports if forced to? But that's another argument entirely! I'm still wound up that the, imo, severely lacking 360L4D cos me twice s much as the excellent PC version did and feel they really only make the ports for quick extra cash. Bioware certainly HAVE made , or got someone in to make, DA:O for PS3(and did a decent job too)but wasn't that game actually started BEFORE Mass Effect was? My main point about not knowing anything about whether it's coming to PS3 is thast it's so far into the trilogy with nothng concrete to suggest it IS coming and I'm very sure, too, that all the talk is both helpful and flattering to B/W which makes me wonder about ALL of it , tbh. I'm not saying I think it's coming and I'm not saying it won't, or that ME3 won't but I do think it's weird that , if it IS coming, they haven't managed to say anythng about it yet-unless, of course, they feel this is the bet way forwards for sales of the series and that an announcement prior to 360 release would have dramatically effected sales of ME2 recently. If they're gong to vcome out with a ME collection BR for PS3 THAT may make a little sense but, again, I see nothing concrete at all, either way. It's like I was always pretty certain Bioshock was going to arrive on PS3 at some point bcause of their ttitude in the press:they reacted to the first round of rumours reported about it going multi with dmands for retractions but when told "OK, we'll retract it if you can ASSURE our reader it'll never happen" they never mentioned it again til it was announced for PS3! Once we knew they'd not replied to the media outlets concerned a second time it was very clear what was going on there but I've never seen anything similar about Bioware or Mass Effect despite, if anything, more rumours! Basically, though, I was pointing out that we've had rumours like this before in pretty similar circumstances(and whatever Valve's relationship with EA you cannot deny the opportunity they refuesed when they turned their back on the PS3 so it's not ALL about logic in this industry which is why we'll always see the odd, occasioanl anomalous thrid party exclusive even n a world where they're nearly extinct)it hasn't always resulted in the expected multiplatform results. This said, I'd really love it to make it over to the PS3 as it's one series I think could really do well on the PS3 and being UE3 has every chance of looking pretty much identical to how it has on the 360. I'd even prefer, given the choice, plying it with a DS3 lke I do all my multiplats usually! Anyhow, I just don't know why people are SO certain because of these bits of code that could, as I guessed earlir, be the result of B/W just looking into possibilities, B/W just stirring the pot for their own political needs, evidence of a PS3 version OR evidence of an aborted one. Can anyone be THAT sure about this given the fact they've had an AGE to make it plain where the games were going?
You don't need to play the first to understand the second sure the novelty of importing ones save file is there but the choices you made in ME1 barely made any impact on Mass Effect 2 (although I do believe some of it would make a heavier impact on ME3). The council you barely saw them, Anderson and Udina you're just dictating who acts superior to who, Wrex only as a cameo role the first Love Interest only appears once, The rachni you only hear from them once should you have saved them.
lol omega 4 the game would be greatly improved, and it would fit both without compression on one BD50.
I would buy Mass Effect 2 on PS3 day one if it comes. Bioware has always been quality.
Day 1. Thx. Bye.
Uh-Oh. Now that we find out FF 14 isn't exclusive and any day we should find out the same about Versus.. I think the third party exclusives are going bye bye.. Next up.. Splinter Cell and Agent
Haha. I won't be surprised if that happen.
agree...3rd party exclusives are dead.
Third party exclusives are fading compared to last generation. Microsoft *needs* to up their 1st party support or they will not compete next generation.
unfortunately you may be right, no third party exclusive is safe.
3rd party exclusivity Dead= M$ Dead.
"Microsoft *needs* to up their 1st party support or they will not compete next generation. " That is the truth!
gotta say, i think it's a lot to do with the const of producting games now adays. They seem to take a lot more time and effort to make so it's unsurprising that companies would wanna get them out to as many platforms as possible, and well with me on EA... lol
FF14 was never exclusive they announced the PC version right off.
Say FF14 was ever a PS3 exclusive? Sony said when the game LAUNCHED it would be on the PS3 and PC. The very day, Square-Enix said, "Don't count out a 360 version but it probably won't launch along side the PC and PS3 because of some issues" So if it IS now launching beside them, then that's great but it was never a, how you XBOTs like to say, "Consooooolle Exclusive". Yeah, UH OH WE BETTER BE WORRIED THAT A MULTIPLATFORM GAME IS NO LONGER EXCLUSIVE! lol