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MAG Dealing With Balance Issues With The S.V.E.R Faction

AnalogHype: "There is a quick way to kill the fun in any multiplayer game, making the teams unbalanced. When another team has an unfair advantage at all times, there's definitely a problem. During the MAG beta, there was talk within the community that the underground PMC faction S.V.E.R had an advantage over the other factions. The chatter continued after the release of MAG, especially after S.V.E.R won the first ever "Domination" match. My character in MAG is a S.V.E.R member, so of course I took the criticism as bitterness from the opposing losing team. As I prepared for my MAG review, I decided to create a new PSN ID so that I can play with another faction without losing my S.V.E.R character. It was then when I realized the chatter had legs to it."

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Keith Olbermann2426d ago

They have fewer players on the servers but they are always ahead on points. I rarely win a match against SVER. I know..I may just suck but I would like to think I dont suck that bad.

-Alpha2426d ago

It's clear that there is a big issue at hand though. People can freely switch factions meaning the PMC tally for SVER just goes up higher.

The solution I would think would be a way to factor in the #of players and games played in relation to other PMCs.

I guess Zipper assumed there would be some balance but if one PMC is overpowered then it's going to suck big time.

Surely they will fix it. Zipper isn't IW.

Mr_Bun2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

Bottom line is this:

When there is communication, we win. When there is poor or no communication, we lose. There have been a few times when we were losing because the squad leader wasn't doing a thing...no communicating, no switching fragos, etc. so we voted him out. I suggest everyone do the same. The key to this game is COMMUNICATION.

ThanatosDMC2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

I disagree with this article. SVER is not unbalanced. The SVER weapons do a lot of damage but are inaccurate as f***. Yes, even with all those attachments. It'll spray and pray at full auto. Unlike Valor guns which can decimate enemies with headshots in full auto. I love Valor guns!

(you can switch guns with a corpse by looking at his body and pressing circle. If you're good with aiming properly, accuracy and little to no recoil is > than damage for headshots)

Anyway, SVER is actually losing the war due to the influx of new players who dont know anything. SVER used to have a lot of teamwork which is what makes us win but now new SVERs are running around the place doing their own thing and not sticking with the squad leader. Heck, the squad leader runs off by himself instead of going to the objective.

SVER sniper rifles suck too compared to Raven/Valor.

Anyway, for the updates to come i hope they release an Overlord/Normandy beach like map. Imagine 256 players fighting there to take the beach head. Or a map in which all attacking players are being paradropped.

peeps2426d ago

"People can freely switch factions meaning the PMC tally for SVER just goes up higher."

no you can't. you need to reach level 60 in order to start again as a new pmc, unless u mean creating a new psn?

nycredude2426d ago

The issue is NOT SVER it is with the players on the other PMCs. I am on valor and when I play with people who are uncooperative we get raped. When I play with teams who coordinate and knows how to play we have beaten sver. They are beatable but too many noobs on Valor and Raven.

Hopefully once sver players reach level 60 they change pmc to get the trophies and it balances out a bit. I agree they have some advantages in their map designs and armor but mostly they are just way more organized. the problem I see is people who suck and instead of getting better they jump ship and go to sver.

BattleAxe2426d ago

people who join SVER are a bunch of band wagon jumpers who don't care about a challenging game experience.

-Alpha2426d ago

Sorry, didn't know that.

I thought you could delete a character and start fresh again though..

kneon2426d ago

They are pretty accurate in my experience. The sniper with the basic scope is as good as the Raven with the upgraded scope. I was using the LMG as a medium range sniper and it's way too easy. I should be spraying all over the place but it doesn't seem like it.

CyberCam2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

and I didn't buy the game because of;
a) the balance issues... we would always have less players in most of our matches (valor).
b) the sver acquisition map was the hardest map to attack in the entire game, out of about 75 times playing it, we won maybe 20 times, if that, the sections in front of the sver bunkers were more wide open & had better lighting to see enemies than the other 2 factions.
c) I love teamwork but having to depend on more than the eight players in my squad sucked because in most cases we would do our job but the other squads didn't and would lose the game for us.
d) not everyone had a mic or would listen to their c/o's which = FAIL

Personally I'd rather the bfbc2 game because theirs less people to depend on and having the smaller squads/teams is a lot better IMO.

guitarded772426d ago

I think you hit the nail on the head... I'm Raven and it just depends on who's on my team and how many of them are communicating. There are also a lot of slow learners out there, just beginning to understand the dynamics of the game play... and also learning this in not CoD. As people play more, we will see the teams get better. I played as SVER in the Beta and Raven now... I don't know of any advantage in the weapons from my experience, players getting killed too quick may try heavier armor. My main problem is with people on my own team just running around healing people to pad their score and not fighting or defending, or people sniping on a completely different side of the objective, not helping the overall battle... this is what the real problem is IMO.

MattCielo2426d ago

The guy writing the article is completely wrong. The SVER guns are actually the worst guns out of all three, with Raven having the best. Funny thing is that Raven loses the most while SVER wins the most. WHY? The age group and personality of people playing the factions. It is obvious that people would pick Raven straight out of playing MW2 because they want the Godlike guns and to go on and be a lone wolf, while the SVER group includes very hardcore players who want to work as a team, most with mics and a lot of SVER people are those that came straight from Socom. Also, most of the Raven players are around 12-14 while SVER players are usually at the age of 20+. Both of these things together are why Raven plays like sh!t and SVER dominates. It ain't the guns and it definitely ain't the maps, it is the players. THE PLAYERS MAKE THE GAME.

jjohan352426d ago

During the beta, I played with all 3 factions. I can definitely say that the SVER maps are unbalanced, in all three game modes. I don't think their weapons or characters are unbalanced, just their maps.

nycredude2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

Guitarded77

That is what I have been saying about these reviews being premature. I can't tell you how many times you go to play suppression and there are so many people who are talking out loud saying like I just started and I have no clue what is going on. I walk them through as best i can cause I went through the same shiat. This game has a tremendous learning curve but once you get it it's a rich experience! The reviewers and people who hate it never really gave it a chance they gave up cause they sucked at it. Trust me I wasn't impressed with the Beta and I hated the game for the first 5 or 6 hours.

Once the dust clears and more people get better at the game it will hopefully balance out and the community will be strong. Then you can accurately review it as people will be playing the game the way it was meant to be played.

The SVER maps are a bit hard.

For all the people who complain about losing too much. While i agree that losing sucks, but I have had great games (experiences) in Mag and end up losing. it isn't and doesn't always have to be about winning. It what happens during battle that matters. That is why there are minor wins and minor losses. You can give up two positions and fight to the end and hold the remaining one and feel like you accomplished something. I have met countless psn friends and have been invited to join clans. This is really an experience every fps fan should enjoy!

Forget the reviews get the game. Where else can you hold a position while your engineers repair a door, while your medics heal fallen soldiers, while trying to avoid poison gas, while your platoon leaders called for backup while another one calls for an airstrike, and all this while you are being pounded by enemy airstrikes, all the while vehicle turrets on both sides circle around, with paratroopers landing in the war zone, and the entire building shaking and rattling, all with no lag and running smoothly!?

NOWHERE! Jump in and join the fight.

PSN: NYCREDUDE (VALOR)

sikbeta2426d ago

Zipper can't do anything if players don't get what's the point of the game, play as a Team, new gamers need to fit in the game first and we'll see the 3 PMCs really balanced

MAG FTW!!!

FamilyGuy2426d ago

I somewhat remember an article about a fouth group being introduced later on in this games life, free DLC I assume.

ThanatosDMC2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

SVER sniper rifles are accurate like any sniper rifles. All guns are accurate if you do the semi auto fire (tap tap) but going full auto goes all over the place for a SVER gun. (I'm not sure if im replying correctly)

Does anyone know if the 4 tier sniper rifle of SVER is worth unlocking? So far i have great success at killing enemies using the default sniper rifles via headshot. Body shots require 3-5 hits though.

The fourth faction will be super special ops i bet. The best of the best? They'll probably invite the Veterans like that FPS MMO game... i forgot the name. It starts with a "P".

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blackboyunltd2426d ago

I was wondering why I was so beast in MAG

ElementX2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

So he created another PSN ID? There he goes bloating the official PSN user numbers. I wonder how many PS3 owners actually use PSN?

On topic: I heard there may be some balancing problems in MAG. I like to root for the underdog and if I get this game, I'll pick one of the other factions.

ogwilson2426d ago

LOL! With people like HHG admitting he has at least 7 PSN names, yea I don't think anyone should be taking PSN #s seriously.

f7897902426d ago

US, UK, and Japan accounts to download anything special.

xabmol2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

Most people I know have 3 accounts (US, UK, JP) just to grab the occasional freebie or demo.

I also have a XBL account. Don't own a box, but I played some H3 on a friends a while back. I wonder how many people have a secon Live account? Is there a difference in content between the major territories on XBL?

Don't really see why it's a big deal. Well... I can see why it would be for some people.

Man In Black2426d ago

You a$$holes are really desperate, aren't you?

40cal2426d ago

Yep, I have those 3 and a Hong Kong account.

I think that a lot of us on these sites have mulit-accounts, but out of the 7 people I know closely with PS3s I am the only one. They like to check the other stores out when they come to my house thought? I tell how to get it done and not one of them has yet. Lazy bastards.

Oner2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

@ ElementX

But yet you say nothing about ~

how PC gamers have to sign up to Xbox LIVE! to play "Games For Windows Live" Online as well

OR

how many LIVE! users have multiple logins for free trial accounts

OR

how many new accounts there could be because of the previous bannings

Am I the only one who finds that a bit odd?....

MiloGarret2426d ago

Now I get it, you're Nasim!

Or at least you write like him/her/it.

That explains a lot actually.

Oner2426d ago

Nope. Sorry. I am 1 person. Myself...always have been, always will be ~ and I can verify my credentials. Your just mad that I put you in your place in an article the other day so now all you have to resort to is baseless accusations with no shred of proof....as usual.

ElementX2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

I didn't bring up Live accounts because to play online you need Gold. How many people would pay $50 each for more than one account per year? Who wants a free trial account that's only good for a month? Are you going to tell all your buddies your new screen name every month when you sign up for another free trial? That's ridiculous.

Oner2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

First you only addressed 1 of the 3 items and all you said was that it was a pain to do...but that does not mean people DON'T or HAVEN'T done it! And to say "to play online you need Gold" doesn't matter because your original complaint was about official PSN user numbers. When Silver accounts, Gold AND Games for Windows LIVE! ALL account for the sum of what MS uses for their total LIVE! accounts. Something you seem to not want to admit or address. Again, oddly enough...which is my point.

MiloGarret2426d ago

Be calm Nasim. Settle down. Everything will be ok.

Please Nasim, remind me of how you put me in my place, I refuse to go through my comment history on my own. You're argumentative skills are so vast that I feel I'd be a better man if I found out.

Oner2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

Easy ~ No problem since you seem to have a selective memory for some odd reason

In this post you make clear ASSumptions as to my age with ABSOLUTELY no evidence ~ http://www.n4g.com/Redirect...

only for me to later put you in your place here ~ http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

With this quote ~ "I find it amazing that when people don't have a valid point they ALWAYS resort to attacking the poster and not the post itself! And at that point you lose all sight of the point and any bearing of validity. So ASSume all you want about my age without ANY bit of evidence or information to come to such a conclusion. But what that confirms to me is that you are clearly immature (no matter your true age) to actually believe the BS statements you so dearly profess."

So to end I will summarize by saying that when you add what you said there to what you said here (about me being "Nasim"), you will notice something....do you see it? Because I sure do! And that is a "trend". One of which I will make VERY clear for all to see and hopefully for you to be able to comprehend ~ You ASSume too much with no proof or validity in what you "believe".

Seriously STFU. You don't know me or who I am in the scene or what I have contributed. You make no valid points. AT ALL. Just baseless argumentative opinions based off of ASSumptions ~ thus you attack the me and not what I say. Because you have nothing left or anything else.

MiloGarret2425d ago (Edited 2425d ago )

I made an educated guess about your age saying you were 15 tops, right, now I remember.

Well, given the way you write and behave in general I honestly can't see how you could be older than that, and I'm guessing I was quite accurate given your reaction. (Hint: too strong)

Frankly, if you're older than that.. then your behaviour is actually a bit sad.

I'll admit you're probably not Nasim, probably. Nasim was actually a fair bit more civilized than you are.

EDIT: Btw, that's... really not putting anyone in his/her place... It just sounds like a child who hasn't yet fully developed the capacity to reason.

Oner2425d ago (Edited 2425d ago )

Again more insults based on nothing. Thank You for further proving my point. And just in case you didn't notice quite a few people agreed with me in that thread via post and PM so I think I did put quite a few people (including yourself) in their place...but you won't admit or agree to that now would you.

Whatever. My point has once more been made abundantly clear about those who make ASSumptions and don't have the intellect to see past that. Oh and BTW here is a pic of the Townhouse I had built/bought a few months ago to settle your misunderstanding about my age ~ http://img683.imageshack.us...

Lesson #1 ~ You really shouldn't make baseless ASSumptions about things you have absolutely no clue or idea about. It just makes you look immature, uneducated and you tend to be wrong, thus making yourself look quite a but stupid.

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ogwilson2426d ago

But yea there's nothing worse than an unbalanced game.

Chubear2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

Play the game then you can talk.

The gaem isn't "unbalanced" it's the most mirror image balance of any FPS I've played this gen. The aritcle is talking about one Domination map type for SVERS. The map give the perception of inbalance to some cause it's a tougher terrain and you HAVE to do team work pretty much all the time to get through the map.

Maybe Zipper adjusts certain hills or pipeline layouts here and there but all in all, SVER map isn't unbalanced, it's just tougher to overcome with less teamwork and communication. It's not like SVER dominates when they're on the attack or anything.

ogwilson2426d ago

Why do you assume I don't own the game? Do you know me, sir?

nycredude2426d ago

ohhh online gansta!

Let me guess you have the game and you are valor or raven and you can't seem to win right? So the game is unbalanced? It's all about skills and teamwork.

Either you get better or you die. Only the strong survives in this game. Just like Demon's Souls. Sony is bringing the golden age of gaming.

Simon_Brezhnev2426d ago

yall should know ogwilson is always going to say something negative towards anything PS3 related.

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ian722426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

I play with RAVEN and we do lose a lot to SVER. Very rare we win. Maybe its because SVER are better and we're rubbish. Maybe they do have more powerfull guns, or maps to their advantage. Makes it all the better when we do win. I still love the game though.

raztad2426d ago

SVER guys are really though, they look very experienced, probably from the BETA?. When attacking they do in mass, when defending they do in mass. Their leaders are very skilful.

I'm RAVEN and I love to fight SVER. I dont mind to lose because winning is so rewarding. I feel RAVEN is getting in better shape, the weekend was quite frustrating battling SVER in Domination. However last night we did much better.

This is not time for whining like babies. This is time for retaliation.

Chubear2426d ago

Yeah that domination SVER map is much tougher than the counter parts of RAVEN or VALOR but it can be over come. However, they're sabotage maps aren't a problem like the domination maps.

ThanatosDMC2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

Hmmm... i never thought of it that way. You're probably right about most of the beta players going to SVER and knew what to expect.

SVER is starting to lose because of the lack of teamwork. Seriously, idiotic when 3 squadmates plus other teammates stick by the door with a C4. I'm telling them to get back since it'll explode and kill them. But they wont listen. They all died.

BlackTar1872426d ago

of ravens ACQ maps are a pain to attack.

iceman28852426d ago

It's possible that our (Raven) ACQ maps are harder to attack as there is some evidence by how much higher our score is in ACQ than the other game modes.

On the same idea, I feel liket attacking SVER in domination is near impossible (maybe all our good players are boosting our rankings in ACQ and avoiding domination or maybe all the good SVER players are playing domination).

Any way you cut it, it appears that the factions are starting to gain identities, which is cool.

However, I've only played Raven so it could be I'm just bitter or it could be that there is unbalance, there is really no good way to tell.

raztad2426d ago (Edited 2426d ago )

I think it's too early to be complaining about unbalancing. SVER has been great in Domination. Sabotage and Acquisition is pretty even among the three PMCs.

Domination requires huge teamwork, good leaders and OICs. This is where RAVEN is failing so far, but I feel there is some improvement. During the past weekend RAVEN suffered MAJOR DEFEAT after MAJOR DEFEAT. Now the defeats are minor, with close results. People is getting more organized.

I' m getting a mic soon enough. I hope others do the same. This gonna be quite a War.

BlackTar1872426d ago

personally enjoy a uphill battle on this game it gets boring when you own the other team so easily the game really shines when the Sh** hits the fan and your repair that to the right etc etc.

I have no problem with the balance i think people who were beginners are the ones who need to suck it up SVEr has Beta players they are more skilled and you can all see over the last couple of days people are starting to even the playing field so i think it was just exp. but with the internet now days everyone can make claims.

But i prefer a challenge it keeps me interested (I love winning but not at the expensive of fun) when i hit 60 im going Valor some people say they are the hardest to play as which i don't really believe but i would love to fight for the victories and keep myself doing something then always win

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