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Destructoid: Is Heavy Rain doing videogames a disservice?

Destructoid writes: "Heavy Rain arrived this week, stuffed in a fancy box with all manner of promotional material. I can't talk about the game itself right now until the embargo, but what I can talk about is the pre-release hype, and the way in which is seems to undermine the accomplishments of videogames as a creative medium.

You've doubtless heard game director David Cage talking about his "interactive drama," likening it to movies and almost distancing it from videogames, trying to make out that it's something more than a mere game. I would like to direct you to the aforementioned promo material I received, and two statements that really stuck out for me."

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villevalorox2371d ago

I'm sorry but i disagree with this. How is making a video game that gives the feel and immersion that a HWP would a discredit to video games? If anything it extends the gaming genre.

Dutch Boogie2371d ago (Edited 2371d ago )

Also i don't get why people cannot accept the fact that it is an interactive game. Heavy Rain is a genre in itself and it's main goal is to tell a story with players on the end-side making choices to unravel the outcome.

Hmm...i wonder why i haven't heard anyone question Alan Wake for the same reasons. Don't you control the characters with a controller? Aren't they both Adventure/thriller games? don't they have stories?

So why the hate for Heavy Rain. God knows we need more innovative games instead of the usual space cowboy marine/alien hunter lol.

Just my two cents, but i'd rather play something fresh that requires me to think instead mindlessly killing a green turd.

Bungie2371d ago SpamShow
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Bodyboarder_VGamer2371d ago (Edited 2371d ago )

I just read the article and then I see bungie's comment and I'm like WTF? What is he talking about? It is obvious that he didn't even read the first sentence of this article. Because what the author is criticizing is not the game itself but the description of it provided by Sony and Quantic Dream. =\

The author say that Heavy Rain should stand for what it is, a game and not compare it to movies like if they were so much superior to video games. But what the destructoid author does not understand is that Heavy Rain's a kind of game that survive through its narrative more than its gameplay and when it comes to narratives video games can't even hold a candle to hollywood. Now that's the purpose of:

* "Film Quality Narrative -- Heavy Rain brings a high-quality story filled with tension, emotion, intrigue, and dramatic sequences."

* "Hollywood Production Values -- From the length of the script, to the musical core, to the number of hours of motion capture, Heavy Rain is a vast and ambitious project that delivered a true film noir feel as well as production values that rival a cinematic experience."

And that's why Sony and Quantic Dream used this description. Heavy Rain is literally an interactive movie. This is not like Metal Gear were you do a mission then long cut-scene then another mission and cut-scene... Heavy Rain has the plot and cut-scenes integrated to the gameplay. Just look at the video when the kid is lost in the mall... You're not watching a cut-scene with the guy looking for the kid around the mall, you're looking for the kid yourself with complete interaction with the environment. That's the kind of story telling and narrative that goes beyond Metal Gear or whatever other game you want to say that it is close to Hollywood movies. I mean, in "Heavy Rain" even when the guy's brushing his teeth you're the one brushing his teeth with the freaking sixaxis! You're in complete control of the character in every moment and when you aren't then that's when the QTE's comes into the scene.

If Heavy Rain's not something that could be compared to hollywood then I don't know what it is. What other description could have Sony/Quantic Dream used? Something between the lines of "Incredible narrative like you have never seen in video games!" or something like "Film Quality Narrative, Hollywood Production Values".

I believe that Jim dude didn't thought his article well enough...

Ravage272371d ago (Edited 2371d ago )

As unbelievable as it sounds, there are some people who actually likes playing the same thing over and over again. They lack the ability to appreciate a good story and fail to understand that some people treat games as an experience.

That's why they will never have anything positive to say about HR.To them, anything that doesn't involve guns or hack&slash can't be called a game. It's ok to spend 60bucks on mw2 even though you did the exact same thing in cod4 years ago minus some perks&streaks. It's ok to spend 60bucks on a 4hr campaign with an 'innovative' firefight mode and the SAME old multiplayer. But it's NOT ok to spend it on an experience that offers something different.

Heavy Rain is as much a game as MGS4. That's because you can INTERACT with the environment and AFFECT the outcome of the story. Does movies allow you to do that? Does Avatar allow you to control Colonel Miles and wipe out the Na'vi?

Just because HR has non-traditional gameplay doesn't make it anything less 'gamey'. You can argue that HR requires little skill to play but i can name many all-time favourite games that only involves spamming the same move/combination/strategy to get through the game yet it certainly didn't stop them from being great games. And honestly, how many games truly require skills to complete today?

peeps2371d ago

lol it's funny how fanboys keep brining up the gte's... i guess they missed out on indigo prophecy which was an amazing game, but that was multiplat so most likely didn't have fanboys complaining about 'it only having qte's...' when of course it's not just qte's anyway lol

Bungie2371d ago SpamShow
Guido2371d ago

No less of a disservice that you make when you write stupid articles that make no sense. Sorry, but Destructoid is the bane of all that is video games and it saddens me to see they have managed to survive this long. Perhaps with a shot of real journalism could they then be considered a viable source of information but until then, they are simply going to forever remain trash.

peeps2371d ago

"but not all gamers like to sit back for a story driven game with QTEs and multi endings
and some gamers like to just play games for fun"

and not all gamers like to play games full of action and little story, and some gamers enjoy more than 1 genre of game...

theres nothing wrong with a bit of variety in gaming lol

ZootHornRollo2371d ago

for a site to say the truth. this game is going to ruin every thing games have made.

callahan092371d ago

His entire argument is one big run-on fallacy.

"[Quantic Dream]'s in the videogame business, and it should be comparing itself to the best of its medium, not the best of other mediums."

Wrong. They're in the entertainment business. It doesn't have to be so black and white. Heavy Rain is an interactive cinematic experience. Call it a game, call it a movie, both descriptions are accurate. There's plenty of room in the entertainment industry for experimentation.

peterdawa2371d ago

Dutch Boogie totally agree with you. Why are people trying to oppress ingenuity and innovation. Ive been playing games for over 25 years and ive been dying for such a game.Games that go an extra step to offer us new intelligent gameplay should be encouraged.Gameplay extends beyond shooting.

Jamie Foxx2371d ago

i for one am sick of how yearly update shooters get high scores from sites like destructoid which bring nothing new to their respected genres.

even mass effect 2 which is supposed to be an 'rpg' has lost so many rpg elements its more of a third person shooter im enjoying it but im wondering how this is labelled as an 'rpg'....and thats all we get these days its tiresome.

sony are the only company trying to broaden our experiences from heavy rain to modnation racers..just trying to evolve a genre which has already had the foundations laid.

so for companies like destructoid if you wernt so dependant on the halos,modern warfares then maybe you would see where QD are coming from and what they are trying to achieve.

peeps2371d ago

i guess ur a new fanboy here. haven't seen you before but seem to be all over the HR topics for some reason lol

"for a site to say the truth. this game is going to ruin every thing games have made. "

u mean like farenheit did... oh wait

the number of fanboys popping up recently is getting ridiculous. i can only assume ppl's bubbles are finally running out and in actual fact a large number of fanboys are probably just the same person who has nothing better to do than spam N4G rather than discuss gaming like a large number of people would like to

thereapersson2371d ago (Edited 2371d ago )

Completely agreed. Since when does it have to be so cut and dry?

Sounds like the only person who is doing the medium a disservice is this guy, with his self-imposed limitations and restrictions on what he thinks videogames should conform to.

He's the reason why games like Modern Warfare 2 are so widely accepted this generation, despite doing absolutely nothing REMOTELY fresh or revolutionary in ANY WAY. But because they conform to his pretentious standards, it's A-OK.

@ Peeps

For someone who hates this game and its genre so much, Zoot sure does find himself attracted to everything Heavy Rain related. I wonder why?

Ravage272371d ago (Edited 2371d ago )

no one is asking you to like it, what's wrong with variety? Everyone has their preferences and there's nothing wrong with preferring games that are all about having fun or in this case, games that offers unique experiences.

Just keep in mind that some people are getting tired of playing the same thing and are eager to try something new

frankymv2371d ago

Why do they post this garbage article?

Baka-akaB2371d ago

I agree with Dutchboogie here ... it would have been distracting with motion controls .
And it wouldnt change the attacks anyway . It could have been worse even with the usual "gimmick" comments about motion controls

sikbeta2371d ago

Destructoid: Is Heavy Rain doing videogames a disservice CUZ IZ NOT A SHOOTER?

lol

Here we GO again, something Different is taken as something BAD, one of the Lamest things EVER

This Game will be Amazing, nobody can't deny that just cuz the characters are not 100% Fully Controlable and they not have a weapon glued in the arms

jmare2371d ago

The author has a point, to a point. While I can agree that games need to stop bullshit comparisons like the whole Citizen Kane thing, the medium has still not progressed to the point where references to games only will be understood by the mainstream. This is in part due to the relatively short history of videogames, but it is also due to the fact that up until recently story in games was simply the the explanation of why you were doing any given thing and it never really went much deeper than, "They're bad, kill them." Movies are used as a frame of reference because they are something that the mainstream understands.

Baka-akaB2371d ago (Edited 2371d ago )

And did you read most dtoid's article or some of the likeminded outlets ? They always outright dimiss games with lenghty cutscenes and heavy storytelling as "movie wannabe" .
At least it made me laugh and my day in a few occasions . Like again Xenosaga ... wich the press was eager to dismiss as a game without only cuscenes and no gameplay whatsoever . Yet i've often seen people shed tears about the game's difficulty , if you just follow the plot without xp and the various quests . Or getting surprised even so by the game's relative harsh nature , while usually claiming to be bad ass at qte infested action games .

It's not so much players and videogame writers setting up movies as the ultimate medium . They just bring it up because that's the only common reference some might understand .

And look at your post your actually guilty of what you accuse others of , when looking deeply at it :

"due to the fact that up until recently story in games was simply the the explanation of why you were doing any given thing and it never really went much deeper than, "They're bad, kill them."

I never understood such statements . I hardly understand why gamers , people working in the field , and the so called gaming press are so eager to view the medium as so inferior to books or even movies in storytelling .

I've been playing games for probably the last two decades, and as far as i am concerned , i've quite often seen plots in games easily as good or better than movies , and instead around the level of books .

That many people ignored those games and chose instead brainless action and then suddenly discover gta 4/mass effect in the HD era , is only their own fault and choice ...
The only thing that really changed was obviously the technology allowing for better direction and "photography" ... But one cannot seriously comes and tell me that GTA is better written than Beneath a steel sky , , or that Mass effect was really better written than anything in Bioware's past , among many other things .

Seriously why such an imprint on many fellow gamers mind ? Movies are the place where comics , manga , books and games adaptation goes to die ...
Where their plot is shredded into tiny pieces till the skin is left , and barely enough to adapt into a tiny 2-3h hour format , and with the limits of a budget (with usually roughly enough to feature half movie time with sfx) , and creativity .

I do not envy movies , and i'm sure that Quantic dreams and other cinematic and story driven devs dont either .
They most likely know that Heavy wouldnt fit properly and with all it's original qualities in a movie trilogy .
They just mention movies for marketing purpose , and to appeal to the gamers obsession with movies .

SilentNegotiator2371d ago (Edited 2371d ago )

It's a Jim Sterling article. Ignore and move on.

TheDudeAbides2371d ago

by questioning Heavy Rain's awesomeness

ChickeyCantor2371d ago

"Also i don't get why people cannot accept the fact that it is an interactive game. "

Same reason why "HARTKOREEEEEEE" gamers cannot accept that "casual"games are "games" too.

honestly im not interested in this "game". Story might be deep, but gameplay wise it just sucks for me.

Andronix2371d ago (Edited 2371d ago )

Quantic Dreams have made this game 'Heavy Rain' and are trying to deliver a new video game experience. Destructoid instead of praising QD for taking a new artistic direction complain about it - presumably they are upset that it is not another forumlaic FPS or platformer.

As gamers we have to wait until Heavy Rain launches to see whether it fulfils its promise, but risky games like Flower, Braid and Heavy Rain are to be celebrated for trying to take gaming in new directions. Not all new ventures will deliver, but you can be sure that I am willing and able to give them a chance.

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4Sh0w2371d ago

I completely disagree with Destructoid. It's absurd to suggest that by QD's offering a "different" experience will somehow hurt gaming because it aims to compete with movies. Listen of course gaming has made significant accomplishments on its own to be compared to othe highly regarded mediums but going outside the box, making a "hybrid" experience isnt going to hurt gaming. Variety never hurts any industry, the worst case scenario is that it might spark a new niche genre for gamers who like that type of experience, if its attractive enough to many gamers it just might be more than a niche genre, the mass gamers will decide and thats how it should be, I said the same with Natal, the gamers will decide its fate, and thats how it should be, because I have alot more faith in the mass public determining the direction of gaming vs an elitist gamer on n4g or an elitist opinion from Destructoid. Why are gamers so paranoid, no matter how good a "different" type game might turn out as long as shooters, rpg's, action games, etc stay fun & *revelant they aren't going anywhere.

Finally, I'm sick of people talking like our current games, suck everytime some supposedly "innovative" game comes out. Again I appreciate new experiences or games, features, peripherals, that expand upon what we have, whether I personaly like them or not doesn't mean I'm going to hate on what we have now to promote something different.

GarandShooter2371d ago

'Movies are used as a frame of reference because they are something that the mainstream understands.'

So do you feel that a game like Heavy Rain is going to take gaming further away from the mainstream?

badz1492371d ago

I really want to know what the writer thinks about movie-tide, movie-based games? he must think most of them are stupid as well!

he's so living under the rock for all these times because he's totally missing the point of the entertainment business at the moment! did he missed the article "MW2 set record for the biggest launch in the entertainment history" thing? video game industry is a niche market no more! it's perfectly normal for any game dev to try to tap the market in between VG and movies like QD is doing with HR because games are already proven to be a great medium of story telling! so, how the hell does it a disservice when it's trying to expand the genre of gaming by itself?? if you're fine with your 'standard' games? FINE, but there are others out there who are more than willing to try some new flavor like HR every once in a while!

stupid writers will try hard to downplay HR as it's a new, yet to be proven game! to the writer, you think you look cool hating on HR, aren't ya? guess what, you're NOT! and I think you're STUPID for not even trying to encourage any advancement in gaming! it's the same with people who are hating on MAG just because MAG offers the unprecedented 256 players! it's ok if you're feeling at home with your standard 5v5, 8v8, 16v16 game but at least give respect to those dev like Zipper which is pushing the envelop with MAG and guess what, MAG has seemless lag compared to much smaller MW2!

if you wanna talk about disservice, blame activision for example; giving rehashed games one after another like GH, CoD and then not beta testing their game thus charging $60 for 600p, 5H campaign and glitch fest online!

nix2371d ago

why did my comment get deleted...

i had put in a nice comment there. educative.

morganfell2371d ago (Edited 2371d ago )

@1.17, They keep posting this type of garbage because it attacks Sony.

And like many others I am tired of it. No other manufacturer or publisher has anywhere near the dearth of articles as those we see attacking Sony. I wonder how much time certain people spend googling negative Sony articles. No other publisher's games are subject to so many negative connotations nor any hardware manufacturer the point of such inexcusable ridicule.

It would be funny to go back over the last 30 days here and look at Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft and tally the positive and negative articles. And anyone that remarks the number of certain articles on N4G correlates directly to a console's performance is just being naive or else, intentionally blind.

The flood of such articles anytime Sony produces anything clearly marks the state of worry among fanboys of other consoles. Plainly put they are scared and their petty articles prove it. They are jealous and the flood of "Sony is teh doomed" and moronic "disservice" trash write-ups is a clear indicator.

Jim at Destructoid is an idiot of the highest caliber. Ensconced among a small group of societal dregs that find him funny, he spews forth some of the most ill conceived, poorly researched and downright absurd articles in the industry. Most of all I feel bad for PR reps of various manufacturers and publishers that have to tolerate this jackass simply because he has internet access. The sooner Destructoid goes under the better gaming will be.

Remember, it's Destructoid, the National Inquirer of gaming journalism.

raztad2371d ago

Is Destructoid doing videogames a disservice? FIXED.

I'm not bashing/attacking Destructoid just wondering.

Fanb0y2371d ago

I still think this game is going to bomb.

Can anyone tell me what the latest pre-order numbers were for this game?

morganfell2371d ago

^^^So a game bombs when it's sales are not high? For me, as a gamer, a title bombs when it is unimaginative, buggy, poorly executed, frustrating, etc.

Here's a hint: Gameplay > sales.

Redempteur2371d ago

i'm tired ..
i'm sick of this articles ..

They pass judgement when the game isn't out yet ..AND you don't know that will be the public reaction to it nor how the industry will react ..

What was the point ?
Is it that fun to critic a projet , that isn't even out ?

ANother thing is that i don't understand WHY should heavy rain be inferior to movies ...??
Games already proved that they can be AMAZING narratives experiences when you let them bloom in peace ... but of course you have to explain this to ALL OF YOU that never bought , ICO , FLOWER , SHADOW OF COLOSSUS , OKAMI ...
Games are a medium ... and every medium Can shine ..is it bad that Heavy rain is marketed as a interactive movie when it borrow so much from the movie style ...isn't it interactive ?

WHY the hate ?

baum2371d ago

From someone that defends the wee like you're link and it's zelda or hyrule because the Wii is unique (?), someone would expect you to not act as ignorantly as you just did. Your attitude only proves everyone that criticized the Wii that they are right; just like HR is nothing but cut-scenes and "no gameplay" as you put it, Wii games are nothing but glorified gamecube ports with waggle. Why make such an irrelevant comment? Just curious.

ChickeyCantor2371d ago (Edited 2371d ago )

@baum

"Your attitude only proves everyone that criticized the Wii that they are right; just like HR is nothing but cut-scenes and "no gameplay" as you put it"

Never said this, i said they have put much effort in graphics and story. But to me the gameplay itself just isnt for me.

"From someone that defends the wee like you're link and it's zelda or hyrule because the Wii is unique (?),"

Nowhere did i mention "unique", this kind of gameplay is NOT FOR ME.

"Why make such an irrelevant comment?"
Why draw such a rageful conclusion?
Angry much?

It wasn't irrelevant, people are being all worked up about this game, i was just stating why i dont like this game.

You are the one with ignorance, sorry to break it to you, but not everyone will love what you love.

Edit:
"nothing but cut-scenes and "no gameplay" "
This seems to be your description, Ironic isn't it?

marinelife92371d ago (Edited 2371d ago )

Someone is actually complaining that a video game has been so refined that it's level of immersion can be compared to a film?

The game is shooting for reality just like most other video games.

They don't use made up gun names and weapon specs for COD.

They don't use made up car names and driving specs for GT or Forza.

They don't use made up player names and athletic specs for Madden or MLB 10.

What an idiot.

ABizzel12370d ago

I completely disagree. Let's be real here. Video games aren't known for having great stories, most games have stories on par with a Saturday morning cartoon rather than a good movie, and Heavy Rain just may be another one of the rare games that have film like quality. The article says it's a disservice to the writers and directors of the games, by comparing the game to movies rather than the best of their genre, but what other game is in Heavy Rain's genre. Not to mention SONY IS ALSO ONE OF THE BIGGEST MOVIE STUDIO IN THE WORLD so the writers for their games are more than likely movie writers as well which is why so many of their exclusives have such great stories.

Dacapn2370d ago

This statement pretty much sums up the debate of this game. HR is a new genre, in which there hasn't been a game like this before. The game is simply not for everyone, like any genre could be. Basically some people freak out instead of being able to at least objectively look at a piece of work.

N4Flamers2370d ago

I have to wake up and read this, and jim from destructoid has sand in his vagina. I'm sorry I only read about half of that rant before i decided to cut the cord.

The truth of the matter is that most video games in these times dont have an excellent story. I havent seen an article about dantes inferno comparing itself to the classic poem. I havent seen any comparison articles between the two, so why would anyone get offended when a game compares itself to the budget or story of a movie.

I think given the type of game this is it is acceptable and close to necessary to compare it to a movie. I believe the comparison gives the gamer a good feel for what kind of game they are about to play.

wicko2370d ago

Another brilliant article by Destructoid Scribe Jim Sterling, the PS3 hater.

Seriously this guy's articles are always a joke, journalistic integrity be damned I guess.

jmare2370d ago

It's possible. But the point I was making is that like it or not, film is considered by many in the mainstream to be the ultimate storytelling medium. They are unbelievably wrong, but that's a different argument. If marketed appropriately, Heavy Rain could reach new audiences. But I think it will be praised by fanboys and those with an open mind, but it will not be a huge seller.

creatchee2370d ago

Bungie said: "and some gamers like to just play games for fun"

You know, I hate to agree with him, (actually, I REALLY hate to agree with almost ANY of the known fanboys on either side) but this is one of the best lines from him or anyone else on N4G.

The topics that most people talk about is graphics or stories or technical prowess or sales or number of people online or any number of things about games, but the most important thing about a game is its fun factor. If you're not having fun when you're playing a game, then why on Earth are you playing it in the first place?

Back on-topic - raising the bar or doing something different than the norm is NEVER a disservice to anything unless it is done through dubious methods. Heavy Rain looks like it will be good in the graphics and story department - I'm just hoping that it is fun. That's been my only question about this game from the get go. Reviewers typically don't address fun (except GamePro back in the day when "Fun Factor" rating were actually larger than all of the other components).

I guess I won't know until I pop it in...

facepalm2370d ago

The title should've been:
Is the MARKETING of Heavy Rain doing video games a disservice??

Rockox2370d ago

I agree with this article to the extent that it's wrong that people in the entertainment industry feel the need to somehow "legitimize" videogames by making them into movies, as if making something into a movie is the be all, end all.

I think what it ultimately comes down to in the movie business is brand recognition. It's easier to make a movie out of an existing game franchise with a healthy fanbase than to create a new story for a film. And this just shows how lazy the film industry has become, relying on adaptations, sequels and reboots to make money, rather than coming up with an original idea.

jmd7492370d ago

let me guess, it's a jim article?! go figure...

baum2370d ago

Sorry to break it to you, I never implied you should have the same taste as others. I was simply asking how do you pretend to not come out as a hypocrite with your criticism of a game that aims to be unique when all you do is defend a console that supposedly aims to be unique. At least that's the song all the Ninty fanboys keep trunpeting on this site (and some even go as far as claiming that the Wii has more core games than both PS3 and 360 combined, which is downright hilarious).

Anyway, are you dense? I never said that in my opinion HR is comprised solely by cut-scenes, I was simply making fun of what you probably think of this game. Not meant to be taken to heart. Have you even played Indigo Prophecy? That might lend you a bit of credibility.

Kornholic2370d ago

The same Destructoid who reviewed MAG even before its servers were opened? Haha, oh please. Let's wait until the game is actually out. Such an unprofessional site doesn't probably even get a review copy of the game.

Greywulf2370d ago (Edited 2370d ago )

INDIGO PROPHECY.

Why are all of these morons acting as if this game wasn't made/tested/released before? Its not for everyone, clearly. The hate behind this game is ridiculous. Sure, if it was the first of its kind, feel free to question it, but seeing as how its not, why create the banter?

Destructoid has never touched Quantic Dreams work before, so how the hell do they know?

and just as a lol @ destructoid & Jim...

I didn't see anyone complaining when TIME called Mass Effect 2:

"THE AVATAR OF VIDEOGAMES!"

pixelsword2370d ago (Edited 2370d ago )

http://www.clayloomis.com/S...

Avoid the monsters, ladies and gentlemen, and they will eventually go away. People have to realize that poorly titled articles to get hits is a bad form of journalism.

@ greywulf:

you have a point there, and if you think about it, Mass Effect didn't do anything "innovative" from the last time, but this is the crap people do to get hits; and if I don't like it, they get no hits. If they do it a lot, they'll never get hits from me.

IdleLeeSiuLung2370d ago

"I didn't see anyone complaining when TIME called Mass Effect 2:

"THE AVATAR OF VIDEOGAMES!" "-greywulf

That is because, that is a compliment. Comparing yourself to a different medium and saying it is ALMOST as good is putting yourself down.

Imagine a movie claiming it is almost as good as the book! I don't think this is necessarily a hate towards Sony as many on this site believes. I think it just happens to be the title being released and you can't deny the similarity between a movie and this game.

Personally, from what I have seen of this game I would classify it as interactive movie.

Either way, the title of the article is misleading and is intended to draw the ire of the PS3 community. Looks like he was successful!!!

ChickeyCantor2370d ago

@Baum,

Its hilarious how you ask me if im "dense".
"I never said that in my opinion HR is comprised solely by cut-scenes,"
Neither did I, yet you assumed I did. I never said its just a batch of cut-scenes and never thought of that description. Therefor to me its just Ironic.

" was simply asking how do you pretend to not come out as a hypocrite with your criticism of a game that aims to be unique when all you do is defend a console that supposedly aims to be unique"

Another assumption of what I wasn't implying.
I don't care if the game is unique or not, I just find it a pity that so much production value went into this, and still I wont be able to enjoy this.

It sad you are this shortsighted, just because I do not share most views here on N4G, doesn't mean im wii-fanboy.
I also own a PS3 and plan on getting a 360.
Not sure why you had to twist my words, just so you could have your paranoid ways.

You know instead of trying to be a DB, at least try to understand people.

jjohan352370d ago

In my opinion, Destructoid has always been one of the worst gaming sites this generation. I'd go as far to say that it's worse than HHG, which is why I refuse to click on their links.

Anon19742370d ago (Edited 2370d ago )

They used to actually report on game news and offer useful insight and now it's like they've made an editorial decision to just churn out poorly researched articles or flat out negative opinion articles just to generate hits. This article is pure crap. What a whiner.

The guy is pissed off because they're comparing videogames to movies and commenting about their script quality. I don't know what world you live in, but generally speaking, videogame scripts AREN'T of the same quality as movies. I love games as much as the next guy, but who are we kidding here? I think it's great the writing has improved over the years, but it's still nowhere near the level, on average that we see in movies. There are a few exceptions to this, but not many. If Heavy Rain's makers want to point out that "Hey. Our story doesn't suck," then more power to them! I played Indigo Prophecy. I can't wait for Heavy Rain because I expect it to have a great story. That's why I'm buying it. By all means, if Heavy Rain has a good story..yell it from the rooftops that Heavy Rain has a great story!

Saaking2370d ago

lmao, and people wonder why Destructoid has zero credibility.

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Brixxer6002371d ago

The whole point of comparing this game to a movie is to let everyone know that it's a completely different type of experience , a movie with a good script and dialogue is aimed at making you feel attatched to the characters emotionally , you care about what happens to them , you feel for them , there are very few games that have tried this approach. The developers should praised in their attempts to "Break the Mould" , this is one game i can't wait to play.

xxBiG_BoSSxx2370d ago

The author feels that heavy rain should be comparing itself to other games rather than movies but he forgets that other games often compare themselves to the reality of their genre. Madden compares itself to actual football. Most shooters compare themselves to actual war or gunplay. The author needs to accept that cinematic games are a genre. They Should be promoted as such. I don't know how you'd compare Heavy Rain to any other game anyway, without considering its cinematic style.

jack_burt0n2371d ago

If anything its more of throwback to a classic "Adveture Game" when storytelling came first, when i played it the strongest familiarity to me was Bladerunner on the PC now that is a good thing indeed. But gamers already know that, the people they are trying to make interested with quotes of production value are film noir fans, true crime and murder mystery csi junkies. In an effort for it to be a commercial success they need to do that, without the need for "this game has tits" well not as much anyway.

But its quite obvious the article writer enjoys his Mcdonald's-style gaming.

For me the mistake they have made is not launching it with the motion controller.

Dutch Boogie2371d ago

"For me the mistake they have made is not launching it with the motion controller."

For some reason i think that would completely ruin the game. The fact that they use the ps3's sixaxis is enough. Anything more and it would be interfering with players trying to concentrate on the story. I don't wanna come home from work and stand infront of a tv wobbling my hands like a crazy baboon.

jack_burt0n2371d ago

Dutch there is ALOT of motion controls throughout the game, every1 who tried the demo at e3 was like this game needs the wand badly. I would rather mimic the 1:1 motion of brushing my teeth lol than shaking a sixaxis up and down. Same for opening a door etc would not need to be arms flailing :0)

Karooo2371d ago

even mass effect 2 was shooterified.

yawn give me something new.

Trebius2370d ago

This game is incredible ...

Ppl that hate on it really have no basis for the hate, it's just not on their console of choice so they belittle it.

If Heavy Rain were exclusive to the 360, of course the fangirls would be praising it saying how good it is and how M$ is trying something nw.

To hell with you fangirl pusies. You'll never play any of these great upcoming PS3 exclusives, and you've missed out on more than a dozen preview exclusives.

Cry some more.

Shane Kim2371d ago

What's wrong with promoting a game that way? I red the article and I got his point but a game doesn't make 10 dollars to make, It costs 10 million dollars. This is just a more commercial way to reach your audince and pontial new buyers.

I mean we could start bashing MS for putting Halo on everything.