At first glance it seems like a ludicrous amount of cash, but is Microsoft's reported $50 million shell-out to secure exclusive dibs on two downloadable Grand Theft Auto IV episodes really that crazy?
I think the informed gamer who's going to look at the options between the two would already own a console, so no winning situation there.
But for the millions of people that aren't on the pulse of the gaming community, those without a console, will they really know that xbox offers this exclusive material?
To me i think this is a huge wad of money to spend on 'episodes'. Fix the rings of death first!
I think that the fact that you can get the same game for $200 less will move 360s more than the exclusive content factor (for the "less informed" gamer).
we don't know the details of the deal as no one so said what this deal includes the game will get blanket coverage across tv and magazines like FHM for instance.
So if part of the 50 million is to go towards advertising like saying 60 hours of extra content coming soon only on xbox live in all the ads then yes this will sway the mainstream
I agree with Dr Pepper. The price difference between the 360 and PS3 will be the biggest deciding factor by far for anyone buying a new console to play GTA IV.
Dr Pepper & DrunKao, you are both right although what you guys say is based on pre launch and just after launch reasoning. Once little joe has heard his buddy is playing massive additions of GTA on his 360(in 08; Adults included) vs his buddy on his PS3 considering this little guy does not have a Next-Gen console yet what do you think which console he'll be begging his mummy for?.
Trust me theres alway late comers to a hit game(Lost Planet is selling like crazzy still; many new level ones online every day)$200 difference in price and the fact the content will have made it to the masses be word of mouth, reviewers, news of all types, this was smart on MS's part.
I don't want to comment on how much the episodic content will affect 360 sales as no one knows what the content will offer nor how heavily it will be advertise.
I agree with the dude aboved me. Will casual people even be informed about this? I have no doubt GTA 4 will sell more on XBOX 360 than PS3 because 360 has a larger userbase. The price point is the main reason that a lot of people settle for 360 over PS3. Especially when people see it's getting most of the same games. But is this extra content gonna sell XBOX 360's? I'm not sure about that.
The extra content will probably help sway people's minds if they own both a 360 and PS3. But I'm not sure if it will help with anything else.
i mean, on PS3 there will be also getaway 3 and 8 days, and maybe exclusive(or time exclusive) L.A.Noire(not comfirmed, only rumor about making for nextgen consoles and mentioning only ps3 in financial report).
only to GTA fans, which want GTA4 and nothing more, x360 FTW.
the getaway game were very poor and devoid of good fun gameplay that gta has and a new franchise like 8 day's has to be really good to breakthrough to a level where it is accepted by the mainsteam just look at saint row or any of the other GTA clones on the PS2/xbox and to be honest I don't think L.A.noire will be anything like GTA.
I'm more interested in the former GTA creators new game APB a MMO gta game
I think people that like GTA style games would be more inclined to buy a 360 actually. The 360 already has 3 GTA type games available right now (Just Cause, Saint's Row, Crackdown), while the PS3 currently has none. So you expect those people to pay more when no one even knows if 8 days or Getaway 3 will be any good (graphics aside)?
L.A. Noire will be good for it`s atmosphere, just watch some trailers. =)
just cause2, saint row2 - all this will be on ps3.
about crackdown, good point - unless people waiting for pricecut of x360, all who loves such type games already bought x360, other wait for price cut of x360 or for price cut of ps3. =)
"So you expect those people to pay more when no one even knows if 8 days or Getaway 3 will be any good (graphics aside)?"
About Getaway graphics, it`s already far beyond of GTA4, look at these trailers, ALL OF THEM:
http://www.youtube.com/watc... - 2005.
http://www.youtube.com/watc... - 2006.
http://www.youtube.com/watc... - 2007.
unless you watch all these 3 trailers, don`t comment. =)
poor video quality, but that is how GTA4 could look, if it wasn`t a multiplatform.. :)
no one even knows if GTA4 will be any good (unless you have a time machine =)) ) ?
till games are released, noone knows that, but 8days already looking Hot.
Don't comment on what, the fact that you ignored the "(graphics aside)" portion of my comment, lol?
If new gamers join the market( and dont have a next-gen console) based on a buddy playing GTA they'll buy a 360. Whats hard to understand?.
L.A.Noire & 8 days are coming to the 360.
#1 your envyous rabid ass cmoment isn't going to change anything. lol
maybe la noire but your 360 console can never play 8 days its published and developed by SCEA sorry i burst your bubble :(
good informative article. M$ took sonys best selling game and got exclusive content with it. ITs the BIGGEST slap in the face to all sony fans. Especially if your a sony fan that bought a PS3 early for GTA.
ANd I think it would DEFINITELY move consoles. M$ will drop the price this year on their console. So your looking at about a bundle price less than $300 for game and console. This is what will influence the parents this season. Cause all kids want to play GTA, and of course HALO. Sony has nothing that the kids know about or are waiting to play this holiday season until of course God of War 3 next year if they are lucky.
i wanna go to this future when the xbox 360 is sold for 300$ buy 6 of them come back sell em and buy a ps3 :)
do you really not believe M$ will have a price drop this year? core down to $199 perhaps? or even $250??? then they can
make it a bundle with GTA4 or Halo for $300.
Last year alot of big stores (best buy, circuit city) had specials, premium 360 with a choice of game. Or didn't you know?
Anybody that has a PLAYSTATION should be pissed at Sony for letting this happen. Now what if M$ has an annoucement to make at E3 about MGS..... you never know... MONEY TALKS and BULLSH*T WALKS.
From a business standpoint, so long as they make 51 million dollars then it was a wise-investment, regardless of how poorly or how well it is received.
From the standpoint of a fan(i.e. ME), the only way this will be "worth it" is if this CONTENT looks and/or plays THAT much better than Gears, Killzone, Lost Planet, Lair, Forza, or any of several FULL GAMES that are produced at some fraction of this cost.
My point is, that even though I think GTA is as great as any casual or hardcore, THIS much money would be wiser to invest in it's game I think. Please don't respond with that tired bottom-less pockets thing, because we all know good and well that MS has no intentions of throwing all of their money at their games division. With the fantastic games we've seen and have yet to see that don't even cost this much...it absolutely begs the question...why?
well if it's like liberty city stories was on the psp and ps2 with a whole new story and main character in the set in the same location and the first episode is free on the day of release with more content on the way then there is a huge selling point for the 360 version
lol @ the Tower Bridge in that GTA IV picture. Do you guys see it? Like GTA IV would've ever been set in London. GTA V is still a possibility so don't stop dreaming!
Edit: For those unaware Tower Bridge is London's most famous and iconic bridge. It's also in this news story's GTA picture, which I thought was a bit out of place. It was clearly made before we all found out GTA IV was set in New York City.
The game is (somewhat) a parody of America, isn't it? If that's the case, why would they place the setting somewhere else?
There was a GTA game set in London
I finished GTA III. I played the other 2 and never completed them. Over 100 hours of gameplay, but I never finished them. It was like a cigarette to me. Pick it up, play it for a while to satisfy my fix, go back to what I was doing. By the time the extra content comes out, I will be on something else, unless this has a strong online experience. Plus, how much will this extra content cost? I'm thinking about getting this, but not for extra episodes. Extra online Multiplayer content? That would be more of a selling point.
but you gotta admit, between the two consoles, that extra content is the selling point. Although you say you dont want it now, who know what kind of extra content were looking at. Could be missions? could be an island? could even be a neigboring city? something totally different than original but using same graphics engine and gameplay. Just lok at shivering isles or HL2 episode 1.
Then yes, it would be more interesting, New island, city, that would be good. I'm guessing that it will be a butt load of missions based in the same city, adding some new characters and stories. Maybe weapons and vehicles. I would like to see someone add content like a new city to this game.
only time will tell winner of the console wars.
as much as I think this was a very smart move on M$, one can only wonder after only six months, could the content be all that great?
but then another way to look at it, since Moore anounce this last year, that means the have been working on this extra content alongside with the original version,
or maybe they are just taking out chapters and missions that should have been included in original 360/PS3 version and marketing it as the exclusive content.
I see your point, but you have to realize that those were also new games themselves, not EPISODES.
Games are a selling point in and of themselves because they're effectively seperate from whatever previous installment there may have been, which should equal a new experience, however similar they may be.
New content and features means the same game, no matter how you slice it. Think of Resident Evil 2, with 2 different story arcs in the same location. I can only imagine that this content will offer something similar. Additional content isn't as high a selling point as a new product is. It's the reason why things like Spider-Man 2.1 and X-Men 1.5 Don't sell nearly as well as their initial runs, or their respective SEQUELS for that matter.
I'm not saying that this content won't be good, as it very well may be(and for $50 million, it better be), it's just that I think it's not very APPEALING considering the type of game and money invested.
Why wont Sony do the same? Surely then can use the money from other divisions to secure $50 million exclusvie... Do they really think publishers will give them exclusives for the love of God?
out of all my friends im the only one who plays videogames alot, and im going to get it for 360. they would have just bought it for ps3 cuz thats what they always have played grand theft auto on, they didnt know it was coming out for 360 let alone it had extra content
sorry but this is 50 million!!! its really stupid to spend that money cuz you already got a huge fanbase used that freaken money for a new game!! and the contents wont release till march of 08....by that time ps3 owners will get final fantasy viii or mgs4..ratchet and clank tools of destruction, uncharted, heavenly sword, warhawk, and etc...ill be to busy playin these games to even care about the extra content that probaly people wont know about at all..
also knowin microsoft they goin to overprice it for lots of money.so get your skirts up xbots to get rape for money again..
to the dude that below me today- you make it seem like gta is the savin grace for the ps2 ..there was plenty of other games that is really great that was on ps2 it wasnt jus gta..and not everybody will know about the extra content..and when people know that they have to pay for it too their goin to be turned off by it..even if they release contents for the ps3 i wont buy it..microsoft should spend that money to fixed their system since there is so many bugs in it..also why do you think that all ps3 owners is buyin it jus for one game only?..Sony have better first party games..mgs4 and final fantasy viii bein exclusive to only ps3 will give million of other people to buy it too..
another sonyboy in denial. face it buddy, sony did a hude disservice to all its fans. There will always be new games coming out, but this is GTA!! this game was sonys best selling game for PS2, over 35 million sold!! its the reason millions bought the PS2 and now its on the 360 same launch day with extra content. i'd be pissed too if I were you. especially if your one of the ones that bought PS3 for GTA.
to tehcellownu: FACT - GTA was PS2 best selling game, over 35 million sold. IT helped push consoles. Millions will want that extra content, not me, but the million of fans that follow GTA. Nobody will be turned off for paying for HOURS of extra content that the PS3 would not have. And sony does not have "better" first party games, just MGS4 and FF and those are 3rd party with rumers daily that they can end up on 360. 360 now has proven BLOCKBUSTER first party games, like Gears of War and HALO. I"m sorry but maybe when god of war 3 comes out that can be a "blockbuster" first party game, but by then it might be too late for the PS3 plus it will likely be going up against Gears of War 2 or Ninja Gaiden 2.
it sold alot and became well known.but so did many other games besides gta on ps2.
i bought gta3 and loved the game based on playing the top down 2d versions.but i never bought vice city.and when i got san andreas,i played it for awhile,then got bored.even being black and it having black themes.but the gameplay just got old.i traded it in.and didn't look back.
didn't buy the psp gtas and don't think i missed much.
hope those downloads sell.but microsoft should have made another new ip.or even 2 or 3.that's just wasteful spending and a lot of hope on an old franchise to help 360.
msoft is a smart company. Whatever they are paying for 50million has to be worth it. However i will still be buying it on my ps3 not my 360. Not to hate but shooters are pretty much all i will ever buy on 360. Besides GTA is way 2 long to be adding more content
GTA on 360
x2 extra content
$200 cheaper system
GTA on PS3
Casual gamers will buy it on 360. MS will make back the money on the DLC for sure. Plus sell more systems. I understand though if sony got the extra content I would be mad too.
1. People forget that brand also counts, and the PlayStation brand is strong.
2. People also think that it's a given that the difference will still be $200 once GTA4 comes out.
3. People forget that Gamecube didn't outsell Xbox much less PS2 being always cheaper, especially at launch.
4. Even at a significant price difference, will casuals forget the red ring of death?
5. People forget matters selectively and conveniently.
50 million dollars is a risky bet, since the game isn't exclusive, and Xbox is not a great brand name, especially considering the Red Ring.
I have a 360!!!
Achievements - to be proud of / adds longevity
Live Support - as all the games on 360
50 mill - Money talks
Ohh... and I can play my own music through XMB.
this is huge IMO, if this is marketed right it could kill the ps3
ps3 fans saying extra content is bad/won't pay for it/ blah blah you need to lighten up i thought the same originally when i first got my 360 but i now think its a GREAT idea i mean shivering isles was basically a whole new 50hour game for £20 and was better than alot of the full price games
gta may be a long game but it isn't 6 months long, by that time everyone will by dying to get a hold of this content especially if the game is great
no matter what alot of people say gta is THE most influencial game in history and if enough people know about the E/C then this could be a big factor in the console war
if i'm anything to go by then, i was gonna buy a ps3 for gta4 but now because of this i may wait abit longer until a significant price cut and some decent games (tbh none of the upcoming games for ps3 really grip me at the mo)
for the record THE GETAWAY ON PS2 WAS BOLLOCKS so i'm not really looking forward to the new one
19 - Uh-oh, no you didn't
1. People forget that brand also counts, and the PlayStation brand is strong. So was Nintendo
2. People also think that it's a given that the difference will still be $200 once GTA4 comes out. If PS3 drops the price so will Xbox.
3. People forget that Gamecube didn't outsell Xbox much less PS2 being always cheaper, especially at launch. Well the Wii and 360 are now. DS is selling more then PSP.
4. Even at a significant price difference, will casuals forget the red ring of death? Whats sad is when someone gets the red rings they still stay with Xbox. A broken Xbox is better then the PS3.
For real why not buy it on 360?
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