Recently, Zipper Interactive held a Massive Action Game event in London, pitting Americans and European players against each other.
Butin my personal opinion, I'd say Warhawk Is The greatest multiplayer shooter and look, We have a troll. LOL!!! :)
Warhawk is the 3rd best under Killzone 2 and Halo 3. I'm glad you like M.A.G cause it seems no one else does :)
including killzone 2 in your top 3 doesnt wipe the putrid stench of xbox fanboyism from you.
I guess I'm the only one that thinks Uncharted 2 MP is the best (shooters) *hides* It's ok.. i understand But for me, bar none, Demons Souls had the best MP.. ( in everything-goes kinda deal)
What, because he likes Halo and didnt choose a PS3 game as his top game? Im sorry dude, but there is not one PS3 game that I would pick as my top multiplayer game ever. But then again, its debatable and depends on opinion. If we were going by hours played, longevity, and sales, then yes Halo would be the king of multiplayer shooters. Call of Duty would be next. Oh, and you reek of wretched fanboyism way worse than he does. Just your comment makes me cringe.
wtf, how is dead a fanboy. because he tells his honest opinion. i was just playin killzone 2 with him last night.
Because in N4G (fanboy) Land you cant play both consoles. and yes MAG is terrible, i'll be shocked if it gets any review above an 8.0 (mark my words) Currently playing - Uncharted 2 & Mass Effect 2 (oh no!)
hmmm, considering this is N4G, I'll assume you're playing Mass Effect 2 on your PC, there's no other way.
MAG, as a game, has gotten terribly misunderstood and I can understand why Zipper have come out fighting but I cannot condone thier behaviour and despite almost agreeing with them about it's quality(when you get the right players in your squad who listen to a good leader it's absolutely magical, imo, and as a TF2 fan you'll understand that I know what it's like to have people misunderstand the game they're playing!)the fact ios the beta experience was AWFULLY patchy because loads of gamers just didn't get it. Seriously, the difference between MAG with a game full og good squads and a game full of people trying to play COD is MASSIVE.That's what made the beta split opinion and with SO many COD fans around(and remember how some of them cried because KZ2 merely had a different feel to it's controls? Well just think hos puzzled and disappointed they'll have been with a game that positively discourages the very things that make you successful at COD!)it looked like the game was below par-but that probably won't be the case when those who loved Zipper's SOCOM games and other proper squad based shooters are playing something they actually paid for without those who want to lone wolf it or camp -give the game a few weeks for server issues to die down and the community to find it's feet and THEN judge the game. I think people are getting away from the point of MAG and the fact it was NEVER going to appeal to pick up and play COD only gamers. It isn't a blockbuster by any means and was always niche in my mind as team shooters always have been and this is the biggest team shooter ever made. It's not going to appeal to many but it's beemn marked on the evidence of gamers not playing it correctly right now and that can't be fair when a lot will do it right and absolutely LOVE it. Sadly, if Zipper continue with the Billy Big Balls self aggrandisement I won't, as I haven't F3 from T10, be playing it which will really upset me but I cannot abide the industry when it beats it's chest in a silly fashion. Had he said the things he should have "mnoone has tried this before and I feel it will end up being one of the best shooters around and possibly the best squad/platoon shooter ever made" it would have been OK but I( just don't like the attitude even if I think MAG could end up being a special game for people looking for something more cerebral from their shooty, shooty gaming. I fully get why Zipper might have a seige mentality over this as people have stupidly hammered them in review before anyone can have a clue how the game's going to finally turn out but, still, there are right and wrong things to say no matter how wronged you feel your game has been and in that respect they haven't been nearly as bad(YET) as T10 were-T10 resorted in fixing polss FFS and using the word definitive! However, any more and I'll be losing another game I was looking forward to as I don't reward crappy behaviour from people in my daily life and certainly won't pay devs to hear it. Honestly, though, the (admittedly rare) times the blcks fell into place for me in the betas I enjoyed myself just as much as I ever have on a multiplayer shooter. Currently the shooters I still play online are Warhawk, TF2 and KZ2(had enough of COD4 to bother wth MW2 or WaW because, to me, it's practcally the same game reskinned. HAD they allowed every platform dedicated servers I would hav prolly gone for MW2 sans politics as, to me, it's the easiest and best way to improve it as an online game)while I've recently stopped my Live sub til Reach launches as there wasn't a lot left for me to do in Halo3 MP as I'd got as good as I was going to after a few months and was only ever playing it now and again and practically nothing else on Live as I buy my multis for my PS3(simple controller preference).It's not as if I'm averse to the more trad Halo and COD games but lately I've preferred things whioch have given me more of the feel SOCOM used to have and, obviously, Zipper shoukld know about all that and when it works well MAG does, for me, work as well as anything I've played just in a slightly different way.
2.1 "I'm glad you like M.A.G cause it seems no one else does :)" Funny, because my local EB just sold out if the game. Maybe there are actually people outside of the members of N4G.
I agree. Warhawk in terms of multiplayer awesomeness is the best. AVP2 for best FPS multiplayer.
“With 256 players gathered on the same card, MAG is the greatest multiplayer shooter I know.” Great –adjective 1. Unusually or comparatively large in size or dimensions. 2. Large in number; numerous. Synonyms: 1. immense, enormous, gigantic, huge, vast, grand. http://dictionary.reference... You all are idiots. Look at the context for Pete's sake.
Best offline is timesplitters 2 best online is counterstrike 1.6. Anything else is just trying too hard.
MAG is a great game... Some folks judge it without even playing the thing... Some have never even experienced the Beta...
I played for 2 hours earlier and it just my turn out to be "The Greatest Multiplayer Shooter I Know" I love the game already. All of the "MAG sucks people" in here should not be so quick to count this one out.
Some judge it based on a couple hours on the beta. You cant even play the good parts of mag in that amount of time.
LOL this is a joke, OMG!!!! is he serious?
says the guy with the MW2 avatar, the most overrated, most glitchy, most camped game in the market.
seems like a the ps3 disease does not only affect the droids but also sony developers !!! the ARRAGANCE IS TO MUCH burn the ps3 and its whole community down plz we have to do it they have to vanish so deluded!
"Zipper Producer: MAG Is The Greatest Flop I Know" Fixed :D
MW2 is overrated. What happened to having a game with real strategy involved in it. When it comes out, its criticized.
Id say next to Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Bad Company 2, then MAG. But you have to admit. Its a great first attempt this gen. I cannot wait to see how good their next game is gonna be?
Uncharted 2 isnt an FPS. If we're going by 3rd person shooters, than Gears should be in there because the multiplayer (the first Gears) was like crack.
the bots cry babies.
It's actually "queue." And Im sure theyre not crying, because theyre not missing much. This game is trash. Generic garbage at best. It has a gimmick of 256, and thats it. I watched someone play today for 10 minutes. He would land, get shot immediately, wait to spawn, land, then get shot immediately. Over and over. I played the beta, and it looked like a hot mess. Yes, Im sure the bots are crying, but with tears of joy.
1 bot sofar.
^^ Or tears of laughter? For morons trying to convince themselves its good lmao
3 bots sofar. Dam you guys are dumb.
Look cmrbe has nothing, no spin... just flop of the year :D
You can't even spell correctly droid, who's the dumb one now?
i even caught a bot butt. One with shingles LMAO!!.
HAHAHAHAH DMason-like players are hilarious in MAG. Everyone is playing the game strategically, and then you get a Halo Hero running mindlessly towards the opposing squad. The majority of my kills in a match come from DMason or similar players. Unfortunately MAG requires strategy... you should think about sticking to colourful kiddy games like Halo so you can have a gay time like usual.
Obviously you read my comment wrong Foliage. I said I "watched" someone play. And they literally were shot the moment they landed or spawned. Read the Penny Arcade comment regarding MAG, even they know they game garbage. BTW, I eat little wannabe b!tches like you for breakfast. Dont make assumptions that Im some "Halo Hero" based off my comments which I know where stated how I play first person shooters. Its D-Bags like you that twist words in your dilusional, small pea brained mind.
He needs a reality check. Having the most players in game at one time does not make you the greatest.
You really told him, caffman! /sarcasm.
That's actually the logic of many MAG fanboys. Many people love asserting that MAG is the greatest innovation for FPS because more players= better game which is an absolutely laughable premise. MAG has proven that more players does not equal better game. It's a lot like Scribblenauts: so much effort into the unique selling point that it doesn't hold up too well in other areas like gameplay. @randomwiz I didn't say that MAG was a bad game or that the execution failed: I was referring to the logic that more players= better game, which also means less players= inferior game. That is the logic a few people had with MAG and it's elitist and completely irrational.
No one knows weather he played other MP games like Warhawk. The key words are "I KNOW"
"MAG has proven that more players does not equal better game. " i beg to differ MAG has proven that it can have 256 players without being a death fest. MAG's concept works so well, I can't imagine playing MAG with any less number of people. You just can't compare MAG to every other FPS and say that more players won't work. 256 players in MW would just be spawn..die..spawn..die..spawn. .die. In MAG, its unimaginable to play domination with only 32 players or 64 players for that matter.
It's highly unlikely that this MAG developer hasn't played other Multiplayer games. Most game developers, I would say, are also gamers. Are we to believe that this man has never played Counter Strike Source, Battlefield 2, Unreal Tournament 2004, Halo, Killzone 2, and other top-notch multiplayer games? No, I don't believe that he hasn't. Stop pleading ignorance for this man. When Greenwalt says a douchey thing, you are all eager to call it like he is. And the same goes for Mr. MAG Developer. He said something that wasn't exactly douchey, but a bit arrogant.
MAG is one hell of a stunning game imo.. everything from awesome slick visuals to squad based gameplay is breathtaking.. i would say its a tie between MAG and Killzone 2 for best Multiplayer shooter alive.. halo 3 doesnt even come close to warhawk,and Warhawk is AMAZING as well,top 5 thats forsho. its the sheer scale of MAG and the teambased gameplay you wont get anywere else besides the Playstation 3 that make the game worth every penny and hours put into it. AAA game in my books,and THATS what matters most. 1)MAG/Killzone 2 2)Uncharted 2 3)Warhawk 4)Resistance 2 5)Socom Confrontation. (good game acually) remember,when it all boiles down to it for Mulitplayer shooters,its all about the fun factor of the community,and all thos games above i mentioned does exactly what i need it to do. ESPECIALLY MAG!. go buy it! it only does 256 players. Seems like Sony and the ps3 are the only ones moving forward in scale of games as well as multiplayer aspect,Visuals,SUPPORT,Communi ty,AAA exclusives,new Genre's,Innovation,Technology (thats proven to work),1st party devs,and much much more.. im proud to be a former 360 owner now turned only ps3 gamer :) sony has not once done me wrong..
Neither MAG or Killzone 2 qualify for "best shooter alive". Both are games that took ideas from pre-existing shooters, which is fine, but it hardly qualifies them for best shooter. I love Killzone 2 but it doesn't have any big feature that sticks out-- the two best things for the game are graphics (PC games have outdone Killzone 2) and class-based gameplay (already done many times before). MAG at least does 256 players but again, that doesn't make it best shooter of the year. If you want best shooter look at the numerous games that paved the way for games like MAG and Killzone 2. As for Halo, why on earth are you comparing it to Warhawk? They are two totally different games and just stating Warhawk is better is very unconvincing. I would at least like some reasoning. "its the sheer scale of MAG and the teambased gameplay you wont get anywere else besides the Playstation 3 that make the game worth every penny and hours put into it." The scale is unmatched for a console shooter but that's very vague: many games have outstanding "scale" and scope. Teambased gameplay is questionable. MAG's community has yet to mature but it's absolutely bull that you can only get teambased gameplay on the PS3. Are you meaning to sincerely tell me that non-PS3 games are incapable of teambased gameplay? Your taking the PR BS too seriously it seems. @randomfizz I didn't say it was a bad thing. But calling MAG or Killzone 2 the greatest shooter absolutely requires extraordinary reasoning. Like the saying goes: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and so far all the guy has done was make a bunch of claims, knocked down Halo for no reason, and conclude that you can only get scale and teamplay exclusively on a PS3. Just because something is new doesn't mean it's instantly the "Greatest". What kind of logic is that? You have to use relative reasoning to understand that something like the original Half Life was considered amazing for its time, something like MAG in a world like today where FPS' are ALL over the place doesn't mean much at all
"Both are games that took ideas from pre-existing shooters" Is that really a bad thing? You can't name something the best game ever by saying that it invented this idea. Fujitsu made the first commercial plasma tv, but most likely, today, you're buying a plasma tv made by samsung, lg, etc. Does that mean that Fujitsu made the best plasma tv?
Agree entirely Alpha - KZ, Halo, MAG, MW/CoD, MoH, all owe something to the real inspirations from the FPS genre. Goldeneye proved FPS could work and didn't have to be crap on console and DOOM proved tehy could be fun at all. Still, MAG is the best example of large scale FPS around right now - and that is something Zipper should be proud of - they went where others wouldn't or couldn't and made a game that works and is fun. r.
I liked killzone 2 but the controls and lag ruined the game the best thing was that gametypes change in the same map with no loading, I dunno if someone did that or not for MAG I haven't played it but from the E3 show until now I didn't get excited to it at all and that doesn't mean I have to say the game sux I want to save money as much as possible to get other games in 2010 so no MAG for me about Halo 3 I cannot think of a single game that has the same style as Halo 3 and thats what makes the game unique and popular I think it's still the most balanced game because hardcore gamers have their own playlists and the casual gamers have their own playlists also it has vehicles and they are easy to use and it needs alot of teamwork and skill to win. not like MW2 which everyone throw random knives and grenades to kill or snipe anywhere and he gets a kill I see Halo 3 has a good variety in gameplay and that happens every weekend with the double xp and for those who like to make their own in custom games
Are you kidding? Is this a trolling attempt? I know it's a very subjective matter, as different people will have different tastes, and therefor, most people's top 5 online shooters will be vastly different. But now, let's see, all of your 6 games are PS3 exclusives, one could assume you're a fanboy, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Let's analyse your argument as to why MAG is the GREATEST online shooter ever, it provides team-based gameplay like no other game before? Guess someone has never played Operation Flashpoint (the first one) on PC huh? Breathtaking visuals? Uncharted2, Killzone2, Gears of War2, Crysis, Bad Company 2 and Valkyria Chronicles, among other games, would like to have a word with you. Sheer scale only seen on the PS3? I guess, if PC never existed. Battlefield 2 comes to mind, or, I know it's not a shooter, but it still provides a large scale, WoW. As for Uncharted 2, awesome game, no doubt. Same for Killzone 2, despite the input lag and sloppy hit detection from times to times online. Warhawk is a great game as well. Now, I find it quite ironic you're using Resistance2, since this game's online was so badly executed. MAG has large scale battles and is made in a way so that it doesn't become a chaotic experience. Resistance 2 had smaller scale battles, but completely failed at not being a chaotic mess, objectives are often ignored and the only thing most people care about are frags. Oh, and Socom confrontation, had the game, was unplayable in the first few weeks, brought it back to the store. Can't judge it, considering I've been told te situation has improved alot. See, I don't have any problems with opinions, but I still can't see on how you can really think MAG deserves to be called the greatest online shooter today with the arguments you gave, mostly when you consider the game has only been out for a day.
Scott Rudi is the Human Torch...
i can see the bots tears from here,thats how badly they cry for a AAA exclusive in every PS3 article. loving it :) no body has any sympathy for you xbot cheerleaders anymore.. you all destroyed the xbox reputation it was slowly giving itself untill 360 came into play,then Micrshaft created a monster know as the xbox 360 and then borned a new generation of fangurls,they called themselves the BOTS. all they have left is to pay attention to reviews and hope they get at least ONE AAA exclusive thats spposted to ONLY be played on the 360 and NOT pc or ps3 or wii.
1. Youre an idiot and your punctuation and grammar are terrible. 2. MAG will score in the 70's on Metacritic. 3. MAG will sell less than 1 million. 4. In MAG, you land, get shot, rinse, and repeat. 5. Zipper proclaims that Zippers game is the best. Sounds like a run of the mill dumbshit Sony developer to me. How is this a AAA title? Well thats because it isn't. It is AA at best, but most likely just an A title. So who is crying? Im playing Mass Effect 2 right now. First AAA of 2010. Eat it, sucka!
"5. Zipper proclaims that Zippers game is the best. Sounds like a run of the mill dumbshit Sony developer to me." Are you freaking kidding me? "Forza 3 is the definitive racing sim of all time,"but I guess Turn 10 is working for Sony, then /s.
And i a droid have ME2 on PC. Been playing it since yeasteday so what is your point?. Got to love bots like you.
The xBots are still waiting for their '1st' 'xBox 360' Exclusive game for 2010!!! ;-D + MAG is just the start of the 'PS3 ONLY' Games coming in the next few Months!!! ;-P
is a liar. he's another ps3 bot with an imaginary gaming pc.
Haha yeah they all just lie and talk crap all day. Even if, (and thats the biggest IF of all time) they all did really have PC rigs able to run ME2 as good as or better than the 360, in terms of resolution etc. They would still be playing it on a Microsoft based platform, the same company they bash at every chance and make out to hate. Silly little hypocritical children.
"facepalm"In MAG, you land, get shot, rinse, and repeat." lol this one made me laugh a bit Lets see abotu how many FPS do this? Halo does this, you run, die , respawn, Call of duty does this, Run,die, respawn, and so do many other FPS games. Oh i know Halo has vehicle to add more, but so does does M.A.G.
why even mention that its on pc as well? the whole point is that its not on the rival CONSOLE Edit: no.. nitrowolf.. he is right.. im not sure if you played the beta, but in mag.Tat is most of what you do. Its impossible to have much input in something quite so hectic without getting mown down every time. Thats why, this time 256 players is merely a gimick. Enjoyable for like a week at most. edit @ below, and still do i believe you..? nope/
So you must be imagining this post then from my imaginary work PC LMAO!!!. Who said you need a dedicated gaming rig to run ME2?. I work with multi-spectral hires sat imagery orthorectification which requires much more resources you stupid bot. @ Alithebot. Do you think it matters?. I played ME on my work PC and it runs and looked better on my PC than on the x360. I don't really care as long as i get to play it you idiot. Edit: Lol!. I don't care if you believe me or not. I will finish it tonight and i might post the ending here on N4G. If PC is a MS platform. Why does my computer has a HP label on it as well as a grfx card from ATI?. Man you bots are beyond stupid.
Flop... now back to the Microsoft exclusive GOTY Mass Effect 2.
"They would still be playing it on a Microsoft based platform, the same company they bash at every chance and make out to hate. " Okay? That doesn't mean we are supporting Microsoft when we buy PC games. I don't think a single penny goes to Microsoft whenever anybody buys a PC game.
he was referring to your operating system me thinks
The "thinking" pattern of a bot: "Let's see... commenting on a website... It's extremely doubtful that someone would need a computing device for something like that." One thing is for sure, they aren't commenting on this website using a 360... since it requires a browser. So the Dreamcast had Windows CE on it, in your brilliant (hahahahaha) thinking patterns, do you bots consider the Dreamcast to be a Microsoft console? No kidding these bots are so misinformed. They can't tell the difference between a PC and an OS.
"Flop... now back to the Microsoft exclusive GOTY Mass Effect 2. " HAHAHHAHA Who needs a tv, when these bots are the funniest people on earth. This would seriously be hilarious, if these guys actually meant to be funny and weren't suffering from a lack of common sense, along with suffering from delusion. Check out Wine (Free) for Linux, Ubuntu, BSD, Solaris, Mac OS X, etc... and that is only one of many reasons why you don't need Windows to play a game on a PC... and yes you can run 360 games on a PC without Windows, I've done it many times easily on my system. There's a world outside of Microsoft, little one. Once and for all ending the myth that is the "Microsoft Exclusive": http://appdb.winehq.org/obj... I know what you are thinking little bot: "but! but! but! but!" Yup, no such thing as a "Microsoft exclusive"... sorry Bots... still no reason to buy a 360. HAHAHAHA What a moron.
for sure mag is more fun than halo odst..
Hahaha! Somebody get this guy a tisuue. Tears pouring down his face as he watches MAG get SLAUGHTERED by ME2. "Bu bu bu itz teh bst shutr I no!" Lol, cry more you delusional producer. Step aside and let the real masterpieces shine.
Tell that to Turd 10 and bungie.lol
WOW damage control. Of course ZIPPER are going to stick up for their product. They have put a lot of resources to get make this game. I am sure they are not happy about the reviews, but that's the business they have chosen and in this business, the media can be pretty harsh sometimes.
This Guy is on DOPE...DROID Drugs are BAD...HAHAHAHAHAHA
you need help with your bubbles. They are tasty.