In part one of a week-long, future-looking feature series, IGN offers their thoughts on the gaming consoles of the future.
Looks like the future is bright in the world of console gaming
like sony will release another playstation in 2010; HA. maybe a new xbox but i doubt sony will do that.
Gaming is quikly becoming an international way a life a valid form on entertainment for everbody no longer looked apon as a childs pass time. Ofcourse Japan are ahead of the rest of the world gaming is a major release and break from the real world and we in the west are behind but finally catching up.
Us Americans need this form of release to releave stress and probably does more good then the crack-pots say does bad.
Anyways this is the last time i'll be joining news posted by drtysouf21 he leans way to far to the PS3 which a contributor should be more well rounded.
You know you are one of the people i ignore because of all your fanboy comments and i decided to click "show" to see what your comment said in reference to this article an low and behold you mention my name. I Post and Tip good news and bad news about all 3 consoles. I own all 3 consoles. The PS3 is my favorite but that has not stopped me from tipping or posting bad news about it. But i am glad you'll be staying away from my news because now the people that read the news that i post don't have to worry about an ignorant comment from you. Rather then trying to call me out you should have just went about your business and ignored my comments and articles. Sorry that i hurt your feelings because i favor the PS3.......cry me a river.......here's a tissue. If your gonna come at me you better come better then that.
Yeah well you gotta remember the ground technology for games was first made right here in America. The Brown Box which eventually changed the world. The West is just taking some back too where it was born.
And I'm not starting anything by saying this. This is a fact.
And remember guys I said SOME back.
Has it come down to this? So early in the nextgen cycle an article like this comes across as a desperate grasp for attention.
It's like one of those half-hour showbiz/tabloid TV shows that consist primarily of "Coming Up Next!" snippets of non-information. It's not even a full page of text.
"This Just In: Next-Next Gen Gaming Will Be More Advanced!"
Maybe they should start paying their interns.
"It's like one of those half-hour showbiz/tabloid TV shows that consist primarily of "Coming Up Next!" snippets of non-information."
That was an awesome analogy.
So you know what I mean, eh? Fack, that really bugs me. It's gotten so bad that--I swear--10% of your average half-hour program actually has any content outside of the hosts' preamble and pre-commercial-break "Stay Tuned" crap.
The beauty of internet-finger-on-the-pulse-r ate journalism is that you get news as it happens. Unforutnately you also get knee-jerk responses on the fly, live misinterpretations, and before-you-know-it retrospectives.
There is no time for digestion any more. Before noon there are twelve stories reporting a fart before the 1PM correction blaming it on the dog.
Edit: Sorry guys, just venting. There were some interesting points in there, but nothing above blog-level opinion.
What is HDR and what can it do?
to represent a more variation of illuminated and darker areas of a scene. That way you have a better representation of the reality, working more like our vision could perceive.
Thanx dude. That cleared it up for me.
That's just silly. First of all, I hope we have to wait a bit longer than 2010 to see new consoles. At least from Sony and Microsoft. Secondly, there will be new technology by then that no one can predict right now. Pointless article unless you want to pretend like you're looking at the future.
I'm a developer and my bets for the new consoles are:
- Motion sensing for all new consoles, maybe a better version with some type of Eye-Toy/Xbox Live Vision and good software to really sense movement. Could be necessary 2 cameras to sensing depth.
- All projects will be cost-oriented, but little tricks to promote a quality graphics will have to occur. Probable use of good ideas like the Xbox 360 Xenos embedded DRAM plus framebuffer logic. No more space for engineer that thinks: "I have to include this, that and that other function. That way my toy will be so powerful and beautiful to my eyes".
- Development will be cost-oriented. Better development tools. More automation.
1. The idea of Sony abondoning the CELL platform for a more PC like chip is absord. They did all the heavy (and expensive) work and not they just need to scale. Not to mention they will have a great library of powerful software that will work out of the box. Programmers can finally be told "keep your code, you can now just run a lot more of it".
2. The blu-ray vs hd-dvd debate is largely over. But more importantly, by 2010 downloading a 200GB game (that can't stream) will not be viable. A 200GB 8 layer Blu-ray drive will be most likely be part of the equation. Even a terabyte drive cannot compete with 5 disks.
This is why I don't support the Wii. I like the current business model that Sony has. Push technology to the limits and make console lifespans longer; that way the entire art, entertainment and technology moves faster in technology too. That way we get the cutting edge of science at affordable prices. The model has worked for a long time, and then Nintendo comes with a cheap ass gimmick, every retard and their grandmother thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, and completely disrupts the industry. But it's not a disruptor like the Nintendo DS, which was significantly better in every way compared to its predecessor, and didn't abandon past control schemes. It moved forward without the need to scrap the past, unlike the Wii.
The thing is, the Wiimote isn't even a technological breakthrough in itself. When you play Zelda, it's the same if you're either being lazy on your couch moving your hands passively, or actively flailing your hands all over the room. Ever seen a 3 year old play a videogame? He doesn't even give a damn if the machine is actually responding accurately. Hell, you could put him on an arcade cabinet with no credits and he would believe he is playing just because he sees motion on screen and he's pressing buttons randomly. Well, to me that's the essence of the Wii: Whether you move your hands like a retard or like a pianist, it won't make a difference. Same thing with Wii Golf, Wii Bowling, Wii Boxing. It's simply not as precise as it could be, as PS3 and 360 are in every other aspect of their hardware (except the motion sensing part you could say, which is non-existent on 360, and which doesn't detect position on PS3).
Nintendo turned an industry where everyone was invited into a retard fest where the most dedicated fan of it is the only one getting screwed. Thanks Nintendo, I (sarcastically) appreciate you slowing down not only the videogame home console industry, but potentially all other industries connected directly or indirectly with it; whether they be processor manufacturers, graphics researchers, AI and physics academics, cinema and game connections, and so on and so forth.
Nintendo's argument is that eventually we will achieve realism anyway. And well, that's true, except there's still a gap to be crossed, and as long as there isn't, there's a road to walk on to achieve grand scale worlds with life-like physics where everything is interactive, where light reflects everywhere accurately, where every "being" in the world is an intelligent agent and reacts to changes in the environment, which is 4D as Kutaragi envisioned (that is, evolving in time, I know that's hard to grasp to some of you), changing with the time of the day, and the days and seasons of the year. Where you can explore every corner of the universe, where you can have different styles of physics depending on the planet you're walking on, the dimension you're crossing, the fictitious universe with altered reality laws you're trying to get a hold off. It's the ultimate work of fiction come "virtually" true, where you can interact with everything you can think off in ways you've always wanted or never imagined. THAT is next-gen.
And to those naysayers that tell me "graphics aren't everything", well of course not; Pain and little big planet are all about physics, and those games would be impossible to make on the Wii, and the physics on those games makes them special and fun to play. Artificial Intelligence is another aspect of games that will severely lack on the Wii compared to PC, PS3 and 360. That actually makes the games challenging (and therefore, fun). Entertainment comes hand in hand with horsepower (even if it's not the sole factor), whether you like it or not.
There's a ray of light at the end of the tunnel; there is always competition, and there's always going to be something on the tech side of things which will make some games impossible to make on inferior consoles, technologically speaking. So even if the industry slows down (which would be a catastrophe for many of us hardcore gamers), there's still going to be one that will want to 1up the competition in everything, and say "We've got everything they have; plus more horsepower". I just hope that even if manufacturers don't incurr in massive losses anymore to recoup with games (something that gives incentive to corporations to actually make tons of games, so they get out of the hole they've dug), they at least simply break even or make a small loss. Otherwise they could sit on their laurels, like Nintendo has done since the Wii launch (after all, they're profiting from the Wii, so they don't need to hurry to make a profit).
And by the way, I don't see Digital distribution taking off just yet. In fact, who knows if it'll ever, at least for games. Unless Nintendo gets away with their model, making absolutely no technological breakthrough, and consoles RAM doesn't grow. But if RAM keeps growing, something needs to fill it. And if next-gen we get consoles with up to 8 Gigs of RAM, it would take a very long time to fill them assuming you have a 1 Gigabit connection (that would take up to a minute to fill). 1 Gigabit by today standards is a lot, and is relegated to japan and sweden. Furthermore, those connections will still be expensive in the future. Terabyte harddrives will still cost a chunk of the console, and if Nintendo gets away with it, consoles won't have expensive hard drives. So we would need either: 1. Expensive internet connections, or 2. Expensive hard drives, or both. OR, keep the current business model, where the hard drive isn't that big and is only an accessory for small games and caching (not for full games), and where you have an optical drive, which is expensive, but not as expensive as a blazingly fast internet connection. Furthermore, you need to revamp the entire internet to supply millions of consoles or PCs with so many downloads. The internet is not prepared for that, and I doubt it will in the next 5-6 years. Content on demand will take over for music and movies, but for games it will take a lot longer. You need to slow down the industry (especially on the RAM side, and somewhat on the processing side), and you need to speed up internet connections for customers and ISPs.
This is a horrible article. We know video games are going to get better, that what we say everytime. Last gen predictions were PS3 is going to be on top, Xbox 2nd and Nintendo last, that is completely wrong. I don't wan t to think about new consoles when there is a brand new one sitting next to me waiting to be played(a wii). I guess this is what we get when there is a game drought.
if you upgrade its hard drive to 1 terabyte and downgrade the CPU, this article just described the PS3 (hdmi, wifi, media networking, hd-disk drive?). i thought the author was going to get creative with this. i wanted to hear about holographic imaging and immersive gaming controls (maybe an accurate representation of the player's hand within the game?) just a thought.
This is an article about the next consoles not ones 20 years from now.
Looking forward to PS4 and the next PSP from Sony.
Everyone knows the Cell is very powerful, and especially so when more of them are connected, working together. By next gen they will be cheap as chips to make. What if PS4 is simply 3 Cells, a heap of RAM and the latest GPU and BluRay? If that were the case it would seem Sony has done all the hard work already and PS4 would just be a case of assembling the parts.
I think BR could be the format for the next gen as well. Not everyone can download 20GB in an hour. Not everyone even has the internet. And I personally like having a physical copy of a game with a cover and a manual that I might drag out of the cupboard in 10 years time for old times sake. I dont want to download games, at least not full sized games. I'm the kind of guy who races to the shop day one if its a game I've been waiting for. No way do I want to wait for a download. And what happens when your HD fails? Do you lose all your games, or even best case senario have to DL them again. No thanks. Physical media isn't going away anytime soon for games or movies or even music. Think about it, if we only wanted to DL music CD's would have vanished already. Apparently people still want to go to a shop and purchase these things. And if you couldn't buy a game in a shop, these shops might not even sell the consoles since they make so little on them anyway. They need to sell the software to stay afloat. You cant download a console.
I think you will see a 9 core CPU w/ 4 MB cache, clocked in 2.4 ghz range. A 3 core GPU 1 ghz, but this time with all ALU's activated on each core and enhanced for physics processing w/40MB EDRAM for HDR and X 12 Anti Aliasing. 4 GB of memory. 1 TB HD. Games will be delivered via marketplace. DVD drive for BC. Motion Sensing controllers/video camera. Wireless A/B/G/N.
New Consoles for the Future! well people are always into new things so no surprises about this article even formulating. What ever the future holds therr is going to be Fanboys, FlameWars, an Complainers. So I gladly welcome any new Console you make life interesting!
While digital distrubution is getting stronger, it wont replace the physical package of movies and big budget games. We're talking about more than 20Gbs of space and most people prefer good old ways. Like newspaper, there are millions of news sites with up-to-mintue status and yet physical magazines and papers are used the most. The article isn't all that bad but I was hoping for a suggested features of PS4, Xbox3 and Wii2.
i would like it if it was more like the way pc's advance.
what i mean is say microsoft every say 2 years brings out a new console thats faster than the last one and still play its games only better (ie higher frame rate/ resolutions, more effects).
basically what i mean is it will be a platform just like pc (in terms of continual development) if you have the newest model the games will run great, second newest games ok, oldest games will be bareable.
so you don't always have to have the newest console you could get one miss one but still play all the games
all games that comes out would be required to run on at least the latest two consoles.
this would basically be like pc gaming technology wise without the headaches of trying to get it to run because there will not be so many different configurations about and all games would be designed to work on the separate systems
and the box of the game would clearly indicate what system is required
Some people wouldn't like this but i like the logic. Many hardcore fans (think PC Enthusiasts) would want the most powerful tech the day its available so the hardware companies make money off these kinds of people. Then on the other end of the spectrum, the casual people can get the next level up when it is in their price range or when they want to/need to upgrade to play the games they want.
I myself find it funny IGN says they expect no more than 4 cores. LoL They know nothing of the PC market. 32 core PCs will be here in 2010. There will be a new gen. of consoles with all three major competitors. Blu-Ray will likely be the chioce of Sony for Discs and HD-DVD might be released with MS. I don't know which one will have the PC market by then. I know they both should be comming along in the future as the next PC disc format being much faster than DVD and with bigger storage. Since files and graphics will get even bigger. Blu-Ray looks to be winning for now, but Sony owns a stake in that so I don't expect MS to accept it as the next PC disc format for awhile.
Sony will likely expand on the Cell with a 2+ PPE 32+ SPE Cell 2. At least that is what is on IBM's roadmap for the next Cell. It might even be possible to expect a couple of Cell or Cell 2 processors in the system as the GPU. That is what I am expecting anyway. Sony wanted the first Cell to be able to do graphics, but they saw it wasn't able to do it all by itself. So they needed the modified G70 chip in the PS3. Most CPUs will have 32 cores by 2010 so it should be very hard to expect things like this. PS4 should at least have 2 GB of RAM maybe more who knows how much RAM will be needed with games that use 32 core processors. Most likely XDR RAM running at the same speed as the next gen. bus and processor which is said to be running at 6+ Ghz by the time its released according to IBM. Sound will probally be done on the Cell processor or processors as well. Probally with all the same features as the PS3 with a few extra ones.
I expect MS to expand more on their General purpose paralel design with their CPU with probally a 32 PPE processor. Most likely running with 3-6+ Ghz. Probally 2 GB RAM or more. A new ATI Chip inside of the console.
I expect Nintendo to actually make a sequel to the Wii with a powerful setup. Probally with an NVIDIA GPU inside of it. More motion control or a Virtual control scheme. 2 + GB RAM. Etc.
without Ken Kutaragi. His vision, passion, and focus to the brand are unprecendented in the industry and are matched only by those of Shigeru Miyamoto.
-- "I'd like to apologize for the delay. I have been cautious because many people in various areas are banking on the potential of the next-generation DVD." -- K.K.
My thought?: They better keep this guy as a "close" advisor / consultant on future PS projects. I think things are going to get very ugly and unfamiliar after this latest EPIC console battle. "Fingers crossed".lol
Just give me a console that makes these ones look lame when they come out and I am happy
I agree with the article's main point, the biggest tech improvement in next gen will probably be physics. Eventually you will come to a point where the line between realism and graphics will become so small that you can't make a significant improvement. Next gen consoles will all have hard drive due to significant decrease in cost per GB (cheapest you can get now is about $0.40/GB). By then, next gen systems will have about 350 GB hard drive and it will cost about $87.50.
It will become cheap enough for the next Xbox to have a HD DVD player, Wii2 will probably stick to DVD or upgrade to one of the HD formats. And some of the obvious components will be upgraded like RAM, CPU and such. With RAM, you can expect the next xbox and the PS4 to have 4-6 GB and the Wii2 to have about 2 GB.
Most of this stuff is not really a surprise so all we can really do is use some logic and imagination to predict next gen. I can see MS still supporting the Xbox 360 after next gen rolls in because the price should be in the "sweet spot" as they put it so casual gamers will be encouraged to pick one up (See PS2). I can see Sony putting out a casual SKU and a hardcore SKU for next gen. The problem with dropping the 20 GB version is that now you have to pay over $600 to get one and that excludes a huge part of the market as you all can see. Nintendo will just keep doing what their doing cause it seems to be working right now.
Im sure you guys can think of more ideas but this was my 2 cents.
I'm not even going to bother reading this article. This gen is in it's infancy. The current rate of technological advances could mean a new direction in 3 years. There's no way to say what's going to happen. I will just ride this current wave and wait until the next one comes along before I even start thinking about what gaming's going to be like.
Thank you. It's sad when Sanity and Reason stand out as uncommon.
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