CC: Zipper Interactive have revealed the reason they chose 256 as the number of online gamers able to play MAG in one match.
It's all about the map size, though...
It could get cramped in there with 256 players if the map is extremely small!
To me it felt like people were just running around. Hardly any team work...
Actually the problem I felt was the map sizes were too big sometimes. There is a ton of activity at the objective points but getting there takes awhile, at least the vehicles helped just like they help in battlefield. The difference is that in battlefield you can spawn on your commanders, so it helps eliminate walking distance. However, MAG changes completely when you and your team have headsets. Teamwork makes the game work extremely well, as your Squad Leader gives you bonuses if you are near him and he gets XP if you complete a directive he assigned. To add platoon leaders can talk to squad leaders so they can assign them to special tasks and generals can talk to everyone of the leaders. The leaders all gain special abilities like calling in air-strikes, UAV's, faster spawn time and maybe some other ones i never saw. Pretty much 256 player games heavily encourage tactics and teamwork. If that's your kind of game get MAG if not than just ignore it. There are other FPSs out there that might be what you want.
If you bothered to play the MAG beta, you would know that the 256 player maps are HUGE, also It was not a Cluster F"", There is room to spread out, and objectives are spread out.
""""" To me it felt like people were just running around. Hardly any team work... """"" Thats probally because you where playing on Raven. SVER is all about team work, and we whooped everybody in beta to proove it.
every time i played there mostly was team work even people without mic seem to get what they had to do they usually stay with they team and watch each other backs and try to complete the mission. it will be great if everybody use mics but i feel like this whole every Mplayer game need people talking is over rated who loves talking to strangers.
Rally what do you expect, 256 skilled professional team working gamers.
thats because people dont like to follow orders and they just want the game to be a run and gun call of duty game
Like what Mikeyy said you was probably on Raven. Mostly Raven is where all the COD players go, SVER is SOCOM players and Valours a mix. Go S.V.E.R if you want the best teamwork
I don't care what anybody says, i LOVE this game! I was hooked since the first beta.I'll never forget my first domination map, when i was planting a charge on the enemy mortars and and watched over it as the bomb was doing it's thing.. I looked over to the left, seen about 30 of my team-mates rushing into the "A" objective, while 10-15 more guys parachuted in right behind them from the sky.Looking over to the right i seen another 15-20 people flanking "A" from the side, with an APC leading the way. I was stunned,Never before have a played a game where it actually felt like a true war was going on.I wasn't just a player going for the most kills and the highest score.. I was just another soldier on the field doing my part to win the battle. Pre-ordered & counting down the days.
I completely agree with everything you said. For me the best moments in this game are in domination right after the attacking team completes the first wave of objectives and start making their way into the main objectives. Everything disolves into 256 player chaos and I freakin love it.
100% agreed with you guys, i don't give a sh*t about what the rest thinks about this awesome game, i don't give a damn about what the 360 owners think about it, the ps3 owners have a game that support 256 players at a solid frame rate, i also remember my domination level with 200+ players, it was amazing, the maps are the right size, it's just like a real war, it's phenomenal! i am going to buy this game day 1, i don't care if it's 40 or 60$, i want this game, lol.
Couldn't have said it better. The beta had me hooked immediately because I never felt so much like I was in the middle of a war. I've always thought the best shooter is one where you fight large scale battles (I was thinking like a global war where you are constantly fighting for territory all over the world) but I think MAG is a step in the right direction to fulfilling that concept. My only complaints about the game is that 1) once you've unlocked everything, there's really nothing more to work for (that I could tell, didn't actually max out my character in the beta) besides your stats which isn't a big deal, it's just nice to work for other things as well and 2) you have to play on all factions (and max out your character) to get a Platinum trophy. I really just want to play as my faction, but I think I'll be playing this game so much I'll most likely work for the Platinum. Anyways, I can't wait to see how many people there are once this game releases, hopefully the community for this game will be strong adn this game is active for a while. Although not as polished as other shooters, (which is understandable because of the scale of the game) I had more fun in the beta than I've had since COD4 first came out. Once Tuesday hits, everyone better watch out for SVER. We owned in the beta (at least from what I played we did)
lol and glitchs of war have only 6 players :P
the next time they will say 512
for the people who said "no teamwork" that has some truth to it. But if you get about 4 or 5 friends in a squad and one or two are medics with a mic you have just creaged the a team of mag. =]
Yeah I've been in a few games where the teamwork worked well. But the majority of them was people going their separate ways trying to blow their own heads off really.
To me, it's like any team based game. You need a group of friends and you need mics.
Friends and mics is all you need. I was in the closed betas with a bunch of my PSN friends. I had alot of fun. I tried the open beta by myself and I didn't enjoy it as much. Oh and if you happen to play with squad leaders and comanders that know their role the game is awesome.
on socom mostly everybody that i play with have a mic its normal for the whole team to have a mic no matter who you play with. sometime half the team still dont talk and the funny thing they act like their mind readers. why is that? if you know how to play as a team you will be good with strategy type shooter. the lone wolf always the break the link in the chain
This game would kill that laggy Live server...
is there even a review out for this game yet. i haven't seen anything up. ain't it's surpose to be released this week?
I was wondering the same thing.I think it's because the servers aren't up until the game releases. Tho they could of just put of special servers for reviewers..but than there wouldn't be enough people to play and rate the game fairly i suppose.
... how can you review a game that got upto 256 players as an online only game. Maybe they could for an 8v8 game but certainly not for 32v32 and up. Servers have to go live and reviewers have to play through the game to atleast lvl 30 to give a decent review. Any review coming out before launch is a farce.
Epic = 256
To the Mod who deleted my comment, how was it against the rules? I'm dumbfounded by this. Please PM or something because I don't want to be banned for something I didn't mean.
SInce nobody plays online with the PS3 this game will just flop! Microsoft has 20 Million PAYING GOLD MEMBERS What has Sony?? 24 Million FAKE accounts where everybody has at least 2-3 PSN accounts and how many of them use a PSP?? man.. if sony would post REAL numbers.. than maybe 4 or 5 Million ppl would USE the PSN to play ONLINE with its PS3, FACT 24 Million accounts = LOL I also have 3 accounts.. cause in germany you cant download USK18 games. SO i have to us emy US or austrian account. Its sad but a fact.
The only thing I see that is sad is your comment. 20 MIL paying gold members you say? Is that supposed to mean something? Over 20 MIL have bought a Wii. Does that mean it is better? Over 20 MIL watch American Idol every time it comes on. Does that make it the best show on? That 20 MIL proves nothing. Lets not pretend that you have a choice. If you want to be able to enjoy that box to its full potential you have to pay a yearly fee. Not the case for me LOL
you hate the ps3, and nothing can make you like it, not even a 256 player online fps. lol
lol, you don't have to lie to boost Live Gold membership dude. Tell us, where did you get that figure from cause MS has NEVER made the number of Gold subscribers public as far as I know.
No surprise there when you have a Muppet making up lies to make them selves feel better. M$ stated they have 20 million "Live" members no number was used to determine how many of those were Silver or Gold, another statement said that only 56% of there memebers were Gold. http://www.mcvuk.com/news/3... http://www.computerandvideo... http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
stupid 360 fanbrat. go play your gaylo already.
MAG = Massive online Flop
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I love the beta
mag will sells 256 copies confirmed.
I can agree that this game is going to redefine not just the FPS genre, but gamers' overall behavior during an FPS. Instead of trying to rack up the highest kills, this game forces you to participate like an actual teammate.
only need apply.
That rules out 99.9% of users on N4G then!
lol i hope more than 256 players play it online after first week
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i am buying this game regardless of my concerns. this happen in smaller player match. my squad leader told us to run over to the other team spawn base and shoot them as they spawn. we were on def so we were just delaying them for the win. the game felt like killzone2. i had fun though. i has a squad leader that did not speak english. it was hard to figure out what he wanted us to do. i just picked a spot on the objective list and held that spot. i am wondering can the game be region locked. USA plays Europe and ect vs ect, i do not want a squad leader from Europe talking to USA with a different acent. all in all first day buy!!! valor for the win
Not because I'd say it was better...but because it showed me that it actually required a certain level of skill to play. Played the open beta and got to LV36 I love the skill system and I cant wait to try out acquisition. It sounds awesome. For those of you on the ropes as to whether or not to by this game.... MAG is not MW2 and if you go into it thinking it is you WILL be disappointed, you will die and your kills really wont mean sh!t. (Also Mag is essentially Socom in first person and if you didn't care for the original SOCOM series you should probably stay away) But for the rest of you who are similar to myself or some of the others above me who can play the game with an open mind without constantly trying to make it be COD your in for a treat and a much richer experience.
Yeah, after you've played MAG for a while going back to MW2 feels kinda.. empty (for lack of a better word). In MW2 type shooters, you feel closed in and claustrophobic like a lab rat in a maze. You just kill over and over and over and it just starts to mean nothing. In MAG you feel like you're doing whatever you're doing (killing, protecting, parachuting etc) for a purpose and you level up not for personal reasons but you're constantly thinking what you could equip yourself with that might give your faction the edge in the next battle. It's an incredible experience and I have no clue how anyone that calls themselves a FPS gamer would miss out on this game. Even PC gamers need to jump on this game cause it certainly feels like the kind of game PC gamers would eat up if it were on PC.
In this game it's not about Killing people, it's aboput completing the objectives and helping your team progress to every objective. the sabotage maps are expertly balanced and if you've got a squad with good team mates and great leader you'll level up very fast. My Role has always been a supportive role, that will net points and objective if they present my self, but i realize that my team wont get very far if i'm not healing and resuscitating them when they fall. i found that i get the most experience when i'm healing and reviving them. i swear this game is like Crack, when this game launches I'm gonna be creating the N4G MAG Squad. intellegent and team oriented players need apply. I'll see to it that my squad becomes a force to be reckoned with. SVER for LIFE!!!!
A game mode I would have loved to see especially knowing the back story after playing the beta extensively is 80 vs 80 vs 80. 80 x 3 = 240 players which is easy for Zipper to do. This way you could have 10 squads for each faction and it would be a massive war. A map that would hold all three factions would be incredible and an experience worth buying alone. There would be deals between faction commanders to have one team help another, or use certain skills on an objective to stop the third faction from getting ahead. Details Zipper could work out but it would be awesome.
thats cool real cool hey you know what you could post this at their forums and they actually may but it in the game via an update or in the next game
Well, let's go support the game so we can hope to see more features like that in the future. If we don't support this and instead pour our money into the next MW type shooter then we have only ourselves to blame with developers just give us MW type shooters over and over again filled with glitches and bugs.
Playstation 3 exclusive will FAIL AGAIN. sales and quality...oh my god.... IT ONLY DOES EVERYTHING :)
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Another comment. YOU NEED A HEADSET TO PLAY THIS GAME EFFECTIVELY AND ENJOY IT. THE GAME IS SO MUCH MORE ENJOYABLE WHEN YOU CAN TALK WITH YOUR SQUADMATES. I ALSO HIGHLY RECOMMEND JOINING A CLAN, WHICH ZIPPER HAS MADE VERY EASY. IF YOU FEEL THERE IS A LACK OF TEAMWORK, YOU ARE TO BLAME AS WELL.
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Great way to end a review of this game lol
It's also the perfect number for reduced polygon graphics. I'd rather have 32 players and better graphics than 256 players and ps2 graphics.
Well I'm guessing you'll jump on MAG then cause it has better graphics online than a lot of FPS games have this gen e.g MAG's graphics are better than what we've seen from FEAR, Halo3, ODST, R6, and many others so this shouldn't be a problem. ... I am curious though; how come when it comes to games like Halo3, some people will say "oh, it's not about graphics, it's about gameplay" but halo3 was doing the same gameplay from last gen halos but this wasn't a problem. Now MAG is pushing over 20times what halo3 was pushing online, has current gen command & objectives gameplay (along with many other new innovative in-game mechanics) and still looks better graphically but you don't apply the "it's not about graphics, it's about gameplay" comments to MAG even though it has BOTH great graphics and gameplay. Uhm, interesting isnt' it?
Can't wait to see you guys on MAG. It has good graphics AND phenomenal gameplay. : )
oh so now it is? LOL wow, make up your minds =P MAG looks better than many games out there
MW2's textures arent even High res, the fact that MAG is 720p native makes the game that much sharper. I would think that with this game being so lare in scale for online tech and server coding that this game would pull a COD and have sub HD res, but this game evening in the open beta looks amazing, by the best looking map would have to be the south central american maps for Raven. If you've ever played it you would know that the tectures are High res, and the character models look just like MW2, the only thing is that it's a slow paced game and it works out well. MAG is great. it's execution and delivery is just amazing. ^^ Play it before you hit it. the beta 5 wasn't even done, and the game has cleared beta phase and hit gold since December. New screens and video's i've seen from retail copies has this game looking Very good. and the content offering is much more open. MAG Haters need to stop.. if you arent convinced Fine, just state that, but dont give BS reasons because they are laced with hypocrisy, as Chubear s greatly pointed out.
I completely agree, but MAG doesn't have PS2 level graphics.
I think MAG has a lot of promise. The main thing I think MAG will require, is teamwork. I don't see it as being a game that can be picked up and played casually.
this is a good game if you have a bunch of buddys and want to play as a team i diden't like the beta very much but that doesen't mean it wont be a good game i like the idea of 256 but after i played alone by myself i diden't enjoy it very much i enjoyed bfbc2 beta more this game diden't feel imersive it felt like chaos each faction should have diffrent abilitys like gunstealing laststand etc and you die to quick for that type of enviorenment that your in