PlayStation Network Director, Eric Lempel, takes us through the the PS3's online service and how it compares to Xbox Live.
A promise to build in cross gaming invites, messages or real time chat, but for sure not in the next update?
Damn, you can't do those things in the PSN network? That sucks! When you play a game and a friend is playing something else, they can't invite you to play with you.
ANd it won't be on PSN anytime soon. Jees. That is really a bummer. Didn't Sony promise to equal XBL @ their launch last year November?
They clearly overpromise & underdeliver again. 'Yeah we want to do all these great things, yeah its going to happen, yeah somewhere in the future yeah...' SURE
ps3 owners are not complaing, and you are, why? =)))))
btw, don`t you feel HOMEless? =)))
p.s. anyone to help return my 4th bubble back? thnx. =)
fool, i think you were one of the people who thought PSN was gonna turn out like ps2 online weren't you?
The MAIN features are there on PSN and are ready to be expanded on:
-Solid online gaming
-Store to buy additional content
They have to fix a few things sure. Its not hard to add a unified friends list and achievements and thats exactly what Eric Lempel said they were working on. The PSN has improved a whole bunch since when it launched.
I think you're forgeting that Microsoft is a software based company. For xbox live which has been up and running since the first xbox, you'd think they'd have it sussed by now. Sony is a hardware based company, and they've made a hell of a system already. For free.
So shut your yap, they said they're working on those things you care so much about and they will come. And then you'll find something else to yammer on about. Oh yeah, i can't wait for Home and LittleBigPlanet. But im sure you hate them both for no good resaon, just because they're sony property
PS3 is still in its infancy, and its a wicked machine
Get back in that closet mart, and admire the picture i've found of you
absolutely denying user-generated content, a marketplace that only caters to buyers of the premium or elite models (sorry core 360 owners), AND making them pay for online gaming?? That sucks!
When you want to play your buddies online but can't because the ethernet cable doesn't reach the 360 and you can't afford the wi-fi attachment at that time. But hey, look on the bright side, you could save up for one while your Xbox is being repaired for that wonderful red light-show. Sorry... I didn't mean to bring up any bad memories.
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oh dude, i feel so sorry for u!
lolol .. theMART ... lololol
could someone help me here? im looking for "ignore" member icon.
Im getting tiring of hearing that B*******, theMart.
Every damn day its something with you and its so damn annoying. Why can't ps3 users look at news without some xfool who wants to rub it in their face when It comes to what they don't have and every time we get informed of something, someone has to troll whether it be good or bad news? Its not that serious.
So far ANYTHING that even pertains to sony, you want to twist it as a negative and truthfully its not that serious. Its nothing but fanboy bull. If I didnt like a company or the system it had to offer I wouldn't waste my time in the ps3 area, yet you do. All the goddamn time and for no good reason. Fanboys today are something else.
Does trolling give you a hard-on or something?
Mart said something? hahaha I finally got around to ignoring that tool, but by your posts it looks like he was first to this thread...
he is great...being that he doesn't own a PS3, he sure can complain like a 5 year old girl better than most...someone fill me in...I bet I can come close to summing up what he said without even reading his post...
something like "You guys still can't do this or that? Didn't Sony say this would be available at (insert mart's made up date)...when are you guys going to realize that service I pay for is awesome compared to your free peice of crap...."...
he definately has to finish his post with the unstoppably awesome skepticism that no matter what Sony is saying we, you know the owners that are the only people that should be concerned with a thread like this, will never see what we are being told...
Man he sucks...but sometimes I want to unblock his idiotness just to see if he has changed at all...
Good interview. Relitively frank conversation, lots of respect for XBL which was nice for the Sony rep to say. Improvements on the way of course you would expect. PSN is behind XBL in certain areas but it does what it does very well. Im sure over the coming weeks/months the great things XBL do will see the light of day on PSN.
If Psn can match the great service that xbox live offers for free this year then i think it would do Sony a world of good.
I think by this fall when home is released XBL and PSN will be neck and neck.
Watching this vid and seeing they are trying hard to improve PSN, and just scratching the surface, I mean I dont see how someone can view this as something bad, I mean for me as long as its coming im happy, its better late then never, I say. I mean for example im looking forward to little big planet and Pain, its nice to have full games from the comfort of your home and just download it and have fun with it.
P.S. Can someone help me out with bubbles, I try hard to post postive and make good arguments but people either take it as something wrong, or just dont like a smart level type convo, so they get mad and take away bubbles :(
They can't lay out everything that they have planned because they would shoot themselves in the foot for saying yeah we are bringing in X date but don't deliver, there would be an uproar across the net.
Let's wait for E3 to find out truly what they have planned because he was obivously having to hold back information.
dont forget xbox live was launched in november 2002 and psn in november 2006 and we already have voice chat when it took xbl 4 years to get, psn is improving rapidly
"dont forget xbox live was launched in november 2002 and psn in november 2006 and we already have voice chat when it took xbl 4 years to get, psn is improving rapidly"
XBL had voice chat from day 1 of launch since the original xbox in 2002. Also, you can't compare xbl on the xbox to psn on the ps3. If so, then you have to say the psn launched in 2002-03 for the ps2. So to fix your sentence...
Dont forget, xbox live on the xbox 360 was launched in November 2005, and psn in November 2006. Psn is improving rapidly with the upcoming features promise.
I kinda felt like he was repeating himself a lot. For example I believe he said a whole speech twice exactly the same about how the PS3 is the most powerful system and how there is still lots to be explored and not to take it from him or execs. But anyways. I enjoy watching the Bonus Round, I like to hear what they have planned in the future and hold it against them =D
Chaos, that was the editing room doing that because they had to hide something Sony asked them to, you'll see it if you watch the video closely
is MART exagerating or is it true that the PSN doesnt even have a friends list/option to invite ppl to games?
Being that Mart never uses anything creative or new to criticize the ps3, he was probably refering to the PSN's relatively goofy friend/message system...which is he has done multiple times, and is defintely not incorrect about (again, I blocked that kid...so I don't know what he said exactly...be he never says anything different, so I guess...in a way...I know exactly what he said)
the ps3's message system is not unified yet...it is probably biggest target of the PSN's rep for not being user friendly...Some online games use its own system for messaging and friends, like Resistance...that game for example has all the game joining goodness of any great online game, its just not at all connected with your XMB friend list (you have to add friends seperately within the resistance online lobby...once you quit the game...they are not on any other list except for "friends met" on the xmb...you then have to add them again to the main xmb friend's list)
Other games are the opposite...motorstorm uses your xmb list to find friends, and makes it wierd when you are trying to add people to it (you have to add them outside the game I think...can't remember, haven't played that game online in a few months)
So yeah...its not the best at all...but it still works fine...You can send/recieve messages easily...see who is online, and if so, what game they are playing (then each game has some sort of a lobby where you can find them relatively quickly)...its just that you can't send cross game invites...or send messages outside of the game itself (mostly an issue with only being able to access the xmb after quiting a game...not during...and this is rumored to be fixed in 1 or 2 more updates, fixing a very large portion of the problem)...its definitely better than nothing, but it needs some work...and its yet to be determined on how this will be added to Home and whatnot...this video claims that this is being addressed, so at least the PSN people know that we do not like it..
Well the rep. made the outlook for the PSN very positive but at the same time I'm still like meh. All you kept hearing is "its coming, we're working on it" over and over. I'll believe it when I see it gamers.
Even though the PSN still needs ALOT of work what has me really wanting a ps3 is warhawk and little big planet. Damn, I just wish warhawk was on the 360 though. It seems like it would be a better game with all of Live's additional features and whatnot but damn I want to play that.
Xbox Live>PSN now and for the forseeable future but one place where is leading is definitely in user generated content. Little Big Planet is amazing. Graphics, ease of use, etc. XNA is cool but..........its not a game. In the future I think XNA will have be a huge advantage for 360 but thats for people trying to be developers not for people who want to have fun playing a game where you make it.
I like the things Sony is doing with the PSN. I much prefer Sony's approach as it really is a more creative environment for gamers, with user created content. A more creative way for developers to do whatever they can imagine and want to do, rather being restricted in offering the exact same features every other developer does because thats what MS dictates. Best of all they are doing all this while providing it free of charge. Keep up the good work Sony!
THE MArt RULEZ!!!!! LOL
what's best about PSN is that you have to pay 000.000 dollars. You get several features and you have fun.
Will PSN do this that xbox live is already doing? ... yes.. we are listening to the consumer... yes it is something we WILL looking into... yes is something that we will bring... yes it's something that will come to PSN.... seriously.... and you Sony fanboys don't think that sony has some serious catching up to do? This interview is full of features that xbox live currently have that this guy only answer... yes.. we will ... will... will... will... is there anything that sony can tell the gamers that does not require having to wait for it?
"It's not on the next firmware update but it's something we are working on it."
Sometimes I wish I had a fast forward button... where we can speedup 3 years from now.. when waiting is not part of the equation.
Considering how far ahead MS started I think Sony has done a pretty awesome job for a online service that's only 7 months old. I know you 360 fans like to say you hate to wait but how long has it taken MS to get to this point with XBL? Heck before the PS3 launched we where hearing that Sony would never ever be able to offer what MS has with XBL it was simply impossible and now its OMG when are they going to catch up..what's wrong with Sony? Why is it always wait? They really don't have that much farther to go really.
1. Unified friends list across all games.
2. Ability to access XMB functions while in game.
3. Use of custom sound tracks in game.
4. Movie, tv and music downloads
5. Some kind of gamer score /achievements (thanks Installshield)
How long do you think it will take them to do that? Of course I can't blame him for not giving a specific time line since we all know if Sony went past the date that some Xbox 360 fans would claim that Sony over promised and undelivered yet again or worse Sony lied.
As a PS3 fan I have seen a lot of improvements in a short period of time (7 months) and I have every confidence that they will continue to deliver more and more features that are wanted. Look at what Sony is doing by creating their new US blog. They are listening, they are responding and they are delivering.
excellent post dude...Its nice to see an educated person on here, and make a small list of what exactly the PSN is missing overall compared to what $50/year buys...
You missed achievements though, we will definitely here about that...For me, even with Home's upcoming trophy stuff, I really can't see myself getting wrapped up in it...Lair is supposedly the first game that will include a whole slew of different things to do to get awards on the upcoming Home service, but it has never been anything I have have been missing with the PSN so far...
but yeah...custom soundtracks i can't wait for...and the first to get cured appears to be In game access to the XMB...that will help a ton with messaging...and is the first step in getting everything unified in time for Home...
Content on the PSstore will just grow...there isn't going to be a change in that for a while...its just a few years from now there will be huge amounts of stuff, like XBL...but for now its simply a store that is pretty new...they could cram it with tv shows, music, and movie trailers...but I don't think it should be a first priority right now...
This is a PS3 article, about the PS3. And yet, Marty Boy and Blunt Blade can't help but yap. Sad, very sad.
But hey, the good news is all these things are under development.
Has MS announced anything that is under development recently?
Oh yeah, the H3 Zune. Sweet!
I mean why come in here starting something, with something you dont even play with, this is of concern for the PS3 users. Like many others we are glad that they are working on it, its not like its never ever coming, they must deliver if they want to keep up with Microsoft. I mean why worry about what hes saying if you dont even own the console at all?
everyone comments on everything
if you only want sony fanboys talking to to sony defense thing
Installshield thanks answering my question great answer man
It is a lot of it's coming over and over again but one thing that worries me is the whole deal with this thing is not free forever. Phil Harrison was asked the same thing and said..."well we never said forever" If they expect to charge in the future if that IS their plan they really need to start adding these big features and soon. I'd love to see the PSN beat LIVE and for maybe cheaper or even free. But I'm not gonna keep believing this thing will be free forever. I don't wanna set myself up for disappointment later on if it becomes pay.
Live owns PSN.
Yesterday, Today, Forever.
People who bought a $600 system should not complain about paying anually for X-box live.
if you bought an elite and pay for 2 years of serice...right there is the PS3...
People who bought a 360 shouldn't complain about services the PS3 offers...
people who paid for a "core system" + $50 bucks for live + a HDD + a Hd-dvd or a "premium" + an hd-dvd + 50 bucks for live or an "elite" + an hd-dvd + 50 bucks for live
or sadly some of you have paid for all of this in this order cause of the frailty of the systems design.
see you guys next year when they release a "super elite" (extra cooling fan version)
@ topic, that guy was nervous. he said the same 3 lines twice...lol
seriously why do 360 fans, not fanboys, FANS have to always say something negative about every article, news etc of the PS3..
No matter how big of a 360 fan you are, you have to admit that SONY is doing a GOOD job on the PSN.
Everytime and I mean EVERYTIME there's some good news about the PS3 you see the same people looking for something negative about the article or some sh*t..
There is NOTHING that will make you guys admit 100% that something about the PS3 is good. It just makes me think that all you guys are FANBOYS underneath.
I've been a Playstation fan since the PSONE. I had the chance to buy an xbox and a 360, but I didn't, It just didn't appeal to me then and It still don't appeal to me now..
THAT doesn't mean that I'm going to talk down or find something negative just for the fun of it of every good article or news about the 360.. and if it's something good, I will say it cause i'm a gamer..
So my point is there are a lot of FANBOYS in this site with the "objective fan" costume on..
Pardon my English
people are just mad that they are paying $50 a year just so they can see when their freinds turn on their xbox 360. PSN takes care of the number one thing for free which is multiplayer. M$ can give me multiplayer for free and keep the game invites and charge dumbazz people who make it a bigger thing than it is. Multiplayer It's FREE FREE FREE FREE, nothing is better than FREE. Oh by the way Resistance is 40 player lag free, GOW is 8 player lag fest= host shotgun anyone
First I would like to point out that I have not met anyone that's paying $4 for xbox live is mad about it.
Until PSN start offering ALL the services that xbox live users take for granted such as game invites, gamertag, gamerscore, achivements, unique login across all games, Messenger, session joining, (for forza 2 being able to upload screenshots to the website), being able to send messages, from the website or the console to any of your friends.. at any given time... also match wherever features microsoft will released on the next update (probably Clan support across all games), have more games demos then xbox live, have more movies, trailers, tv shows, etc...
When Sony is able to do all that for free... I tell you... I will be the first one to cancel my xbox live account.
I have a job and paying $4 a month (I just came from a dinner that cost me $178 and I'm yet to go to the toillet.. that's how much I ate) for a service that's yet to be match by the other guys it's not a problem. $4 a month! Are you serious!? Are you that broke? Unlike you $4 will not stop me from enjoying the benefits of xbox live.
ohh wow ! it's free! ohh it's free! get the heck out of here... I can care less that you are getting 10 local channels because they are FREE! and I have to pay $90 for cable to watch what I want to watch.
I work very hard, and pay lots of bills and maintain my family... and pay lots of taxes... and I am going to b!tch about $4/month! Please! I deserve more than that. That's why I don't mind paying to play MMOs like WOW, FFXI, City of Heroes and others... that alone is more than $50/month. Yes, I take entertainment that Seriously.
The same way you feel that the PS3 is worth $600... why can't you understand that xbox live is worth $4/month? It's all about unique experience... Xbox live proves features PSN lacks... when PSN matches xbox live on every features... then you will have a valid point when saying that PSN is free...
Do you know how stupid you would sound if you say, "Dial up is better than broadband because it's free!"... That's how you sound.. when you say PSN is better than xbox live... specially if you take under consideration that pretty much most games released for the 360 support xbox live, while the very same games barely support PSN multiplayer if at all.
"Resistance" and ofcourse you had to mention resistance... which are hosted in dedicated servers... and compare them to GOW which is hosted by gamers... shows how much you know.
Give me other PSN games that support 40 players? sure... one game! hosted by Sony to advertise the greatness of PSN. Anyone? Notice how you Sony fanboys only have one game to mention Resistance.
I can also give you an example of a game for the 360 where servers will be hosted...
Huxley - Players can play different roles in up to 100 hundred simultaneous battles with 5,000 players per server.
40? bahhh! who wants 40 when you can have 5,000.
is nothing for what one gets with XBL; but to say I am not happy with what Sony is doing for free would be wrong. Where could one eat 178 dollars worth in food and not get a full meal out of it?
I think it's great they are working to add features and I hope they keep it free. To the commentors:
You don't expect people from the 360 side to make comments in this thread? Well then DON'T BRING UP XBOX LIVE!! It's that freakin simple.. It's always a comparison with these posts and if you bring up XBL I think 360 folks should be free to comment. And the Sony folks do it on every single Xbox post as well.. It goes both ways..
#22 - Please don't give me this 40 player lag free and 8 player lag fest crap. You are a flat out liar.. I play RFOM a lot and it lags like a mother funker. I've had great matches on XBL with NO LAG and I've also had 8-12 player games on PSN that aren't lagged but you start going over 16 players and the thing lags almost always. To come out and make it sound like PSN gives you a lag free experience always is complete BS. I don't mean to sound harsh but don't set people up for a disappointment if they are expecting perfect gameplay on PSN.
No lag in any of the RFOM 40 player games I've played here in the great state of TEXAS. Maybe you should get Time Warner / Roadrunner online or call your senator. =]
I play xbox live and I never get lag... maybe because I have good connection. I don't remember when was the last time I had lag while playing a game.
So, you say that you dont experience lag on PSN and I say I don't experience lag on xbox live... what make you better than me?
I think razer made a very good point... lag it's not always cause by the service... but by the host or even your own ISP...
though ofcourse PSN is made with alien technology and lag is not possible.
I'm well aware that it might not actually be his service or Gawd forbid the host (Nooooo!lol). C'mon I'm not saying that the PSN is alien tech either. I just don't want people to connotate the PSN and RFOM 40 player MP, specifically with LAG by looking at his 1 comment.
I simply offered up my opinion and personal experience with the game. And yes as I've said many times in the past, I've played online with the same service but on my cousin's 360 and there's absolutely no lag either, so if you're an area like that or just having connectivity probs in general -- well, that just sux. And yes I agreed w/ you.
I never lag on any system. I will admit,I don't plan on paying 50 US a year to maintain a Live account. I have a nice job, but I'm still a full-time student and only game to wind down after 3-4 hour lectures. My only problem with the PSN is lack of content and in game messaging. Both are being worked on, so that makes me happy :).
Playstation 3 is the system that's all about potential, and one day that potential will be reached. I look forward to this day :)
- they're working on an achievements system
- they're working on adding more content to the store
- they're working on implementing cross-game invites and some other features Live already has
Not so good things:
- mods might not be allowed after all
- they can't guarantee PSN will remain free
- many improvements are still far off and details are still very vague
PSN and XBL are both great. I think the only real way to sum up which one is better is by the games available to play over the networks. With XBL you get a guarantee that every aspect of the services is included. Also the games on Xbox are awesome.That is what you are paying for.
PSN is on it way to being more like live and seems to be getting better as the years go by. Once PSN gets a game that truly defines the experience people will stop complaining about it not really existing.
This Sony dude did not even answer the 1st question he just went on a rant about the PS3 being more powerful. LAME I do not think faster equals more powerful. PS3 is faster but 360 has more processing power but both are very fun in the end.
Dude, I don't like you or your comments, BUT
This was the comment of the month to me. HAHAHA!
"I just came from a dinner that cost me $178 and I'm yet to go to the
toillet.. that's how much I ate"
Now THAT's funny.
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