If someone has Sony Computer Entertainment of Europe's balls please give them back.
this article deserves to see the light of day dont dismiss it because of the numerouse stories on it..
This is a new outlook on perspective.
And I for one believe in what this article is saying and it happens to represent how most gamers are probably feeling.
It's a very crummy argument. Just because in World War 3 churches were destroyed it's somehow OK to act irreverently toward something which people feel is sacred? It really has to do with respecting other people and their traditions and beliefs. For example, if your favorite sister with whom you were very close died, then her grave would be sacred to you. Now if someone made a video game which happened to portray that part of the graveyard with lifelike realism, to the extent that it actually had her name on the grave with the proper inscription, I'm sure you would be pissed if the game involved ramming the headstone with a truck or splattering someone's brains out over it.
Hmm, I don't know what to say about the many reportings, but the article has a point. I do agree that the Church really does not have any grounds on what they are pursuing. Whether his argument is good or not is up for anyone to decide, not going to comment on its integrity (just skimmed through it, not in the mood to analyze).
@coyote: you do have some good points there. don't know what to say about whether this is news worthy
i find it funny that the group of people who are responsible (indirectly) for the vast majority of death and destruction over the course of human history have a problem with violence. religion and violence are like peas and carrots. it's really quite hypocritical. maybe if you were fighting jews instead of aliens they wouldn't have minded so much.
not Freedom when some will not get offended...
Screams out from this article.
Most of the time I agree with some of your reports but this one Im gald made it, and not just because it was my submission, but because all gamers need to really think why are we being prosicuted for this? Why is it that because a church (another giant orinazation/company)can try/manage to take away our most valuable rights, If one cannot make there own descisions on what to play or not to play who will, The Church? ESRB does just fine and I support that, but definately not what this church is trying to do.
True. Censoring things just because someone gets offended by them is the opposite of freedom.
I hope Sony holds their ground on this.
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How are we being prosecuted? Sounds a little dramatic.
This is a much deeper issue in freedom of expression vs offending someone. We live in a society today that doesn't have much respect for the past and as soon as someone questions expression they are immediately prosecuted as trying take away freedom. We need to have some respect for holy places whether we agree with them or not.. But I digress.
I'd like to see Insomniac make a game where they show the face of the prophet Muhammed and blow up some sacred sites.. They won't because they know there offices would be blown up.. They picked an easy target with this one(ie p*ssies) but it's OK they will only rot in hell for it.
Do you even listen to yourself?
This Source I submitted was correct and has new more relevent context.
If I was to submit the appology statement from Sony that would be incoherent and also duplicate.
Also this was written by a respected contributer at YouNewb.com
I cant belive giving your Nickname here, you would not want to back Sony, Cause thats what im doin... Im also backing all of gamers rights.
Like I said before..Sony is going to settle out of court.
They are currently negotiating stipulations now.
Like pulling the game/donations/censoring the game...and whatever else they decide on.
Why? If either of them have some balls and believe in what they are spewing there would be no settleing.
Sony needs to take a stance and I would hope if MS was in the same shoes they would as well, Not for the sake of the company but for the sake of the Gamer and to defend the rights of humanity!
I dont like to sound so cheesy and or arrogant but this is a push button argument.
To Less rights.
They did not shoot a prophet in there game and did not burn christ alive.
They only depicted Real life church in a violent video game.
They also depicted a real life city, You dont see the city sueing do you?
Respect is Good..
But every one has a different Idea of what respect is.
Apparently you might think that they disrespected the church?
and with all the media on it... I dont blame you.
retarted article. sonys appology means nothing! it was for press. if they acually give money or take that level out of the game then sony needs to be handed its balls back but until then i am sure they have them.
haha its cultist vs fanboys.
(yes the church is just a really big *accepted* cult. deal with it. all "organized religions" are.)
With greater graphics and technology, the line between what is appropriate to do with or without permission is getting finer. Think about all the movies being made everyday, they all need permission to film a scene or recreate a scene at a real world location. If the other main form of entertainment gets permission when doing things like these, why shouldn't photorealistic video games? Granted, RFOM is not photorealistic, but games are getting there. When do we start treating games like the rest of our media? Actually, the church's complaints help bring credibility to video gaming and further elevate gaming to a multimedia standard as well as an art form.
You have a really good point.
that they were never asked permission. The makers of RFOM could of done 2 things.
1. Asked permission before using the name and image or
2. Created a whole different church. If they had called it "Salford cathedrial" noone would've cared (Salford is in Manchester for those who don't know)
Good point. This looks at the Sony Vs Church battle from a new angle and its a good one. But hey, at least it brought more hype to the game.
and now the hypocrites from the church are trying to milk them for money.
Sony can tell them STFU and drop dead.
I don't support the PS3 but I have to defend RFOM by saying there have been many freaking games like FPS and TPS that featured shootouts in churches. Example: every WWII shooter had a church shootout, Max Payne, Blood 1&2, Unrealtournament, Quake all, any survival horror game, anything with zombies and every vampire game. Its a cliche in gaming and these assholes are going after it now? people in this world are getting to f**king sinsative, right now there are French soldiers out there say "man these guys are p**sys"
I cant believe the church is filing a lawsuit for this. They are the ones molesting children and causing most of the wars in the world, suddenly a video game doesnt seem like nothing compared to that. and at 1.1 I understand what ur saying about favorite sister but if that same favorite sister molested children, caused wars, and used slaves like the church did long ago then damn right i would burn the grave!!
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