See this amazing screen shot comparison between Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 1.
it's official. Whoever said ME2 looked like ME1 just got OWNED. lol they probably dont own a HD screen smh. Step yall game up
The difference between the two is like night and day. 28th can't come soon enough.
Dang! BioWare is pushing polygons again. "The first game had a kind of a grainy look to it, so it’s a no brainer that who is winning here." There is an option to turn this off.. lol. The screen of the environment for ME2 looks drawn though. I don't know why they used that instead of actual shots from the game. Looking forward to another epic RPG from BioWare.
Main difference looks like lighting, and slight changes to the models. Shepherds head looks unnaturally long in ME1, but it looks more normal in ME2, but in that pic I'm sure that the lighting is the main difference. Also a lot smoother edges, but still not a huge jump in graphics as people will expect (which is why people say that @Max Speed). The main thing is that the game looked fine, even the first one, the problem was the loading in the elevators, and the texture pop in (which was a lot when I played before the HDD install option). Though looking at these pics makes me really want to play the game asap, ME1, despite being a little menial in the side-quests, was a really fun game. Can't wait till January 28 (is it the same release date in EU?)!
wow. just amazing edit: this game is gonna rock! so excited!!!
Huge difference. It looks gorgeous.
Well done BioWare.
Yeah, Mass Effect on the PC is gonna be gorgeous. Too bad my Rig could only play it on medium settings probably. 9800 GTX with a 2.4 hrz dual core. Id say not.
in the graphics department it hasn't improved that much at all!!! the only difference is the use of colors and i see the eyes looks a bit better on the ME2 and thats all!! in fact i see mass effect 1 first picture comparison to be more detailed than mass effect 2 except the eyes! u all need to have faith in your eyes and leave the bias and expectations aside. damn how can u say there is a huge difference?? are we even looking at the same pictures? UPDATE ME1 first pic skin color looks like chinese skin and ME2 looks like arnold in terminator 2 skin but both same quality right?? i mean both arnold and a chinese person can have the same quality of skin but different color RIGHT??
@killer You are an ultra fanboy, why would you think anybody would take your opinion seriously? You don't even own a 360. The difference is very noticeable. It is so funny that you guys think you can see a huge difference between Uncharted and Uncharted 2, but you can't see the same difference that exist between Mass Effect 1 and 2. You can see it in the character models, the complexity and detail of the environments, the lighting and we have seen from videos that the pop-in and screen tearing seems to also have been fixed. It is a fairly significant difference.
at least use pics from mass effect 2 that arent photoshoped, where is the aliasing in the images?
A game sequel being compared to the original. It really shows how much effort went into creating the game. I can understand doing comparisons of the same game on different platforms but when you start comparing different games on different platforms is when it gets ridiculous. Valid comparisons- sequels: forza 2 to forza 3, gears 1 to gears2, uncharted 1 to uncharted 2, mass effect 1 to mass effect 2, assasin creed 1 to assasin creed 2, bioshock 1 to bioshock 2, etc... Cross platform: darksiders, devil may cry 3, bayonetta, prototype, ghostbusters, batman AA, modern warfare 1&2, etc Non valid comparisons: uncharted-gears, halo-killzone, prototype-infamous, god of war-bayonetta, etc
With regards to the face: This time around, the team at Bioware has definitely improved the art style for character textures. I think looking at the wrinkles between the nose and mouth and around the chin you see more fine striations. While the textures of the face seem to improve overall, the actual polygon count on the characters doesn't seem to haven't increased. However that being said, I do think Bioware was able to push more polygons this time around, specifically with the pseudo-jungle shot and the palm trees. Now if they could take out all those repeating two V-trees and actually use different trees that might be nice, but I suspect part of the answer to reducing load in this game is to try to creatively reuse the same assets. Was there a jungle planet in the first game? Probably not, but if there was that would be a better comparison. Finally that cityscape comparison is retarded. When has ANYONE used concept art to do comparisons with in-game shots before? lol. The effects shots look exactly the same. No difference. I wouldn't be able to tell a ME1 effect from an ME2 one. If you ask my opinion and I am trying to be fair here, there is an improvement around the 10% threshold. That means it is noticeable, but not significant. For comparison, Uncharted 1 to 2 is closer to 30-40% difference (example: Uncharted 1's drake using 30k polygons, and in uc2 being reported to use 80k... Almost 3 times more polys but only 30% improvement in my eyes? Law of diminishing returns) I suspect most of the improvements with ME2 will lie in the framerates, loadtimes, texture pop-in and screen-tearing which will make for a much better gameplay experience.
I hope they make shotgun effects better i would love for my enemies to explode in gore like in Fallout 3... but it's fine if they dont. My Blood Dragon armor better still be legit when i get this game!
It looks better without a doubt. Not much longer to wait...:)
and im really REALLY not trying to p*ss anyone off. I cba with infantile interweb fights of opinion. But are those screenshots from the game in development, I.E the pc version, or the 360 version? because I cant remember ME1 looking that, well you know.. Plus the textures in ME2, I thought, were a lot, lot better than that. This was being compared graphically to heavy rain...
They said they used the 360 in the article.
Sony fanboys said this. No one else.
The difference between mass effect 1 and 2 is in the dialogue portion. The gameplay is still the same and that's the part they had the most issues in the first one. So I guess they cleaned up the gameplay technical issues and improved the dialogue portion. So the difference is not night and day. 360 is still maxed out this does not disapprove that. However this is my favorite 360/PC exclusive, and i'm looking forward to playing it on 360.
Mikeslemonade, The 360 is not maxed out any more than the ps3 is. Naughty Dog said they pushed the ps3 to its max, but that doesn't mean that with newer approaches and optimizations that developers won't be able to get more out of the ps3. The 360 has actually never really had an engine push it to the limit, so it has a ton of untapped potential. If you can't see the significant improvements from Mass Effect to Mass Effect 2, you are blind.
Nope, you're the blind one. In another article Naughty Dog says they can get out more of the PS3. Maxed out can mean a few things. MEaning it's using all SPUs or not? The PS3 right now is not pushing all SPUs at once to the max. On 360 the Halo 3 engine was made for the 360 and the game looked like crap.
Halo 3 did not look like crap. But we will forgive you since you are a PS3 fanboy and don't have a clue what you are talking about. Now run along little boy.
Resistance Fall of Man 1 which was a PS3 launch game looked better than Halo 3. That's the simple truth.
yeah, im gonna have to disagree with you there, halo 3 DID look like crap.... and only a fanboy would say otherwise. on topic ME 2 does look better, but its not phenomenally better. its mostly the lighting that makes it look any different, although i will admit that the difference is bigger than with gears 1 and 2 before all you jump on me and call me a fanboy i will have you know that i have this game preordered and already paid off @ gamestop and it is easily my most anticipated game this year just ahead of heavy rain.
Gran Turismo 4 looks bad if you compare it to today's game, and that is what you are doing. Halo 3 looked pretty damn good for when it came out, not to mention how they revolutionized the replay system of the game.
LOL what are you smoking? it looked average at best for 2007... or did you forget that mass effect, bioshock, uncharted, call of duty 4, ratchet and clank ftod, and heavenly sword all came out that year?, and all looked much better than halo 3
at least i can admit it.
that most the improvements are things you cant notice from pics. Like smoother framerate and more natural, fluid combat. This game is looking great. I cant wait to continue the story but Im wondering what will happen since I no longer have my ME1 save.
Shepard's face got owned by Shepard's new face lol
No texture pop-in is what really sets the two apart
from what I heard from people who went to CES, texture pop-in is virtually non-existant.
I got to play this game yesterday at the IGN uk event in London. the texture pop in has improved a 100 fold. also the AA is a lot better.
Who ever constructed this could of done a better job. http://gamingbolt.com/wp-co... Why does that look like a PS2 game? I'm sure ME2 will look better but they should of used better pictures for ME1. They look stretched out and blurry.
looks like they kept the "grain" filter on. I always turned off the grain filter... game looked better that way to me.
Looks like their capture setup for the 360 is screwy. Parts of the image are cropped off. They should've just used PC screenshots.
Better skintone and lighting. Where are they pushing polygons? @toaster
Two very good looking games. Can't wait to play ME 2!
I still haven't played the first one past the first part. By the time I get to it, the second one will be cheap and a third on the way. Is this game really that good soda?
looking good...draw distance still sucks though...
disagree...please look at the pictures before you just blindly disagree..if you think the draw distance in those photos are good, please wiki draw distance.....lol
These are PC screenshots?
Can't wait for the 26th of this month!
Absolutely greta job Bioware! -HUGE improvement in terms of graphics -30 FPS in the whole game -no pop-ins The 360 is the true next gen console.
s/greta/beta you almost did it
How come true next gen has last gen tech??? Did you hit your head or something? LOL
so youre bragging that you won be able to play the game on ps3 on release but you will in a year? nothing to brag about.
there is absolutely 0% difference in graphics except the use of colors!! mass effect 1 had different colors than mass effect 2!! in the overall quality of the both game i cant tell and most probably mass effect 2 is better but not in graphics!! this just shows that 360 reached its limits in 2007 with bioshock game! @champ21 there is a difference between uncharted 1 and 2 and i mean not coloring difference but graphical difference!! besides are u sleeping under a rock or something? didnt u see and hear the news of god of war 3 and heavy rain? they already surpassed uncharted 2!!! that shows that the ps3 wall hasnt been reached yet u know why? because there is more into the cell processor to be squeezed out than the standard GPU and CPU!! ps3 RSX is not working alone on graphics but the cell is helping the ps3 GPU and THATS why we see better and better games as the developers optimize the cell.
@the killer 360 is a console after all, just like the ps3. both of them reached their limits with their first round of AAA releases. there isnt much difference between uncharted 1 and 2, i would take that means ps3 has reached its limits too. I wouldnt be surprised both of them have 4yr old gpus equipped. Only platform we can expect to show true gains is the PC, which has evolving hardware and grows with time.
They are both outdated by PC standards. However, the 360 is a little more powerful than the PS3. Mass Effect 2 shows just as much improvement from Mass Effect 1 as Uncharted 2 did from Uncharted 1. Blind PS3 fanboys need to take off their fanboy goggles.
the 360 is more powerful than the ps3? no it isnt. Whoever told you that.... lol. The ps3 is a marginal amount more powerful than the 360. Due to it's high speed ram and complex cell/spu cpu architecture. Thats a fact. Also the gap from Uncharted 1 to 2 was huge, a much bigger jump than this. You cant have played or seen either if you think that. The gap between the 2 was more than 50,000 extra polygons per main character, 200 more dynamic and physic calculated objects on screen at any one time. Huge impprovements in texture works, bump mapping, vsync, antialiasing technique... Come on if you're gonna be a fanboy at least be an informed one. Also yes, the hardware, by PC standards is terrible. I mean I couldnt run ME1 on low settings without slowdown. However that proves just how bad optimisation is for PC hardware. This is obviously due to the plethora of hardware available. you can (like me) have a rig thats 2-3x as powerful as a ps3 and nothing surpasses exclusives like Uncharted 2 graphically besides crysis. Even crysis isnt as complex in terms of cloth simulation, character polygon count (and gameplay, story)
Looks the same to me. I wouldn't say True next gen, it doesn't have Blu-Ray and the 360 games are still relying on multiple discs which was the thing of the past.
@shazui123 It is not a fact. It is something Sony claimed. Microsoft claimed the opposite. There have been some developers that say that the 360 is more powerful. There have been some that say the PS3 is more powerful. And there have been some developers say that they are equally powerful. Personally, I just look at what I see with my own eyes and what I see is that the 360 outperforms the ps3 most of the time.
Your name should be gamer 2007.
@ gamer2010 can you provide a link with MS stating that the 360 is "more powerful" then the ps3. I have been a 360 owner since it's launch in 2005. I consider myself more of a 360 fan, but I don't ever remember MS making such statements. I know they have said they believe the 360 would " keep up" with the ps3 graphically and they have down played some of the tech in the ps3 saying it's not needed ( something which i would say the ps3 has proven them wrong on )... They have claimed they don't need some of the features that sony has put in the ps3, but I never remember hearing them say it was "more powerful " even the worst 360 fans no the ps3 is more powerful in terms of specs. You can't honestly believe it's not. I have read of Devs saying the 360 and ps3 are about the same in terms of power. some have said what power the ps3 has it bottlenecks or they can't tap due to one issue or the other ( again something that games like uncharted 2 has shown is not a limit ).. but I still don't think i have heard any dev saying the 360 is actually MORE powerful, just that they are evenly matched.
...is the MOST differentiating one, thats for sure...WOW! Edit: Disagreeing trolls? The second comparison is actually the true comparison being that its the same character in both pictures....its quite a jump...which means the 360 still has IT!
Well from what I see these screens are not in-game footage. No HUD no reticle or anything, so unless they render the cutscenes with the same engine as in-game these screens could be pointless.
I don't see a difference. They both look relatively the same. Which isn't bad, but I was hoping for more. Now fix the texture pop-ins and framerates and that's what will count. EDIT: [email protected] I got 20/10 Vision, I have a nice Samsung Plasma HDTV in the living room, and I own a PS3, 360, and Crysis-PC. And I still think those shots look relatively the same. What am I missing here?
with your screen...wiping away of egg, maybe?
My monitor is fine as Adobe Premiere didn't give me any problems yesterday. Geez, tough crowd: I lost a bubble for asking a question. *sad face*
...but I'll give you one...
[email protected] 20/10 Vision. This kid's got them new cybernetic eyes!
this game is gonna be amazing i cannot wait
gives 360 high 5
Ima be honest the main character models look high poly wich look great, but oh my god how flat can a texture get ?? just look at the ground this is unnaceptable for current gen sure a game can some low textures but wtf is up with the ground it looks like n64 all over again http://gamingbolt.com/wp-co... I hope the PC port wil not be a turd this time around, the force is strong with this one
Just look at his freaking head...I don't consider that to be high-poly, honestly. I can see corners all around his head.
The textures were very much like that in the first aswell, Bioware seem to pay more time and attention to the character details than the enviroment to make the interaction between them feel more like a movie. It doesnt bother me, I'm currently enjoying Dragon Age which doesnt look that great even on a PC because I'm more compelled with the actual story.
no difference whatsoever
There might not be a difference to someone that is blind, but those of us with two working eyes can see an improvement quite clearly. The comparison could have been better, but even based on that small sample of comparison shots it is still easy to see that it has been improved quite a bit.
I'm so excited for this game! This comparison is [email protected] though! The second comparison they have ME1 set to really low standards. Mass Effect 1 does not look that bad! And comparing art work on the Third comparison is pointless. Anyway the reviews have started coming in and it looks like this game will NOT dissapoint! As if we didnt know that already ;)