A video by an internet user compares Heavy Rain with Alan Wake. Which one of these upcoming and anticipated games will win the race?
why do they keep putting these two games in those comparison as if they fit in the same category of games? Wake is Survival Horror with a Different Twist on the Story telling like the main presentation which is a TV show/Episodic Format. Heavy rain is so different from Wake. Only game that could fit in the same Category as Heavy Rain is Shenmue because they both share the same type of gameplay which involves Dynamic QTE scenes ,adventure and research. like the guy said ,I dont understand why they keep comparing the two. and yes We dont have to Debate over this , Graphically HR as the edge because it's a PS3 exclusive. both are Great games and will Shape 2010 to be a Great Year.
The two games are nothing alike. One is largely a QTE game with interactive story gameplay/cutscens and the other is a full blown action game with traditional gameplay. I think this is from that shady German site that is clearly Pro Sony/PS3. The one that does all kinds of shady comparisons with multi plats. The only thing to compare Heavy Rain with, is it's own little brother Indigo Prophecy. "Graphically HR as the edge because it's a PS3 exclusive" I disagree with your graphics opinion. I think the overall graphics in Alan Wake has more natural photo realism and lighting plus it being an actual traditional game versus Heavy being largely cutscene with options.
lol @ thinking the only sites that do shady comparisons are pro-Sony Anyway, I don't get why these two games are compared either. The game play isn't even the same, for f*ck's sake! I want to know what just makes these two so oft compared other than the fact that they are two major exclusive titles on each respective console? This generation is full of idiots. edit: looks like you're the only one around here who is getting offended. Then again, I called you out on your nonsense, so I wouldn't expect a fanboy of your caliber to sit by and take it on the chin. In fact, your posting style is highly reminiscent of Why Dis / We Won, etc., a known individual who throws a tantrum and becomes butthurt whenever someone points out his obvious shortcomings. Keep those disagrees rolling in with your multiple accounts! *wink* :)
Who in the hell said every site is pro Sony? LOL How do you have so many bubbles saying such moronic belligerent sh*t? What is the world coming to when somebody can't say anything without offending some retard as If they were personally attacking that person. WTF? Do I know you? Did I own you somewhere? What's with your misplaced aggression and angry? You might want to talk to somebody about that. Perhaps I offended another Persona? EDIT Anyways the site once again is pushing and reaching these two games should not be compared. One is a next-gen western Silent hill type and the other a Next-gen Indigo Prophecy.
i would buy them both :) beside they are really different in every way, why just why they do compare them.... mmmm... maybethey need some buzz + some fan-boys comments they would have some noise lol
Normally I'd agree with that statement. PS3 exclusives have shown t be subjectively much better looking than 360 exclusives. I say subjective, because they are exclusives it's impossible to objectively compare beyond boring technical details. But I think HR has the edge because it isn't a typical 3rd person game. From what I've seen it plays more like a 3D point and click, like The Longest Journey. Limited camera range, and environments means you can boost the visuals regardless of platform.
You can still control your character in a 3D space when you are not interacting with the game's QTE elements. It's not really a static affair, where you just choose the next option in the story. There will be multiple paths and endings, as well as character-specific situations. The developers also stated that even if one character dies, it will still be possible to continue playing the game. The outcome will be different, but you will not lose that seamless continuity that would be lost should the game simply end at a particular point in time. It's the next evolution of integrated cinematic storytelling, and I'm really excited to see how they manage to deliver the finished product.
Heavy Rain is a next gen Indigo Prophecy. It's not comparable to 99% of games. It's a point and click game with pre-rendered video and copy and pasted environments. Hit disagree go ahead, we know how that proves who is right and who is wrong on N4Gs a site full of PS3 fans. We all know that German site reaches for things that are not there and stretches the truth.
So if someone disagrees with your OPINION, they are automatically wrong and a PS3 fanboy? LOL
MBE Maybe, you should think about what you're going to say, because you don't need to edit your comment 15 times.
A game with point and click Pre-rendered video with partial freedom and a Action game with some open world gameplay should not be compared. It's reaching trying to put these games against each other. He wants to compare them so he feels good about a Sony's match up that isn't there. Yes I remember when they compared Forza 3 and Forza 2 with cherry-picked screenshots trying to make Forza 2 look better than Forza 3. And I remember the Forza 3 vs NFSs and Forza 3 vs GT5p. I also remember when they post COD MWF2 comparison pics they got from other sites and posted the 360 version as the PS3 version and the PS3 version as the 360 version. They got caught by the source(Lense of truth) EDIT ThatCanadianguy420 http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... The game's action is QTE and the game's environments are static.
THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING I don't know why we are even arguing here! These two games should not be compared! End of the damn story... sheesh I remember when Gametrailers got busted for showing footage of the PS3 version of GRID in place of the 360 version, and then claiming it to be the 360 version. I don't know how sites think they can get away with this sh1t and expect to retain any credibility. Well, at least Gametrailers have made it easy on themselves by losing all credibility long ago... edit: @ ThatCanadianGuy Don't even try to bring up the freedom of movement here, because you'll just earn a ton of disagrees from people who can't realize that fact. Nevermind that it has been stated many times before, and even demonstrated in videos like the one you have posted that you do, in fact, have more control over your character than in any standard "point-and-click" adventure.
Considering all Heavy Rain footage is running by the in-game engine, it's quite flattering you say it looks as good as pre-rendered video. Even tho it's all real time gameplay.Just take a look at this video. http://www.videogameszone.d... You control the character at all times, you move around, choose where to go, what to do etc. Of course, you would know that if you knew anything about the game. lol.. it's always funny to watch POG working damage control.He just fails everytime Edit @ Above: I know i shouldn't even bother, but..meh.It's always good for a laugh watching 'You know who' get all frustrated lol. So far were getting about 1 disagree a minute..hmm..about the same time it would take to sign in & out with a dupe account.. Edit @ POG LMFAO! A wiki link to the definition of pre-rendering? Durrr.. As i already said, Heavy Rain doesn't do pre-rendering.Please, just for laughs, show me a video of pre-rendering in Heavy Rain.
...especially considering that it is a much more open game with real action gameplay...instead of fixed camera angles and quick time events.
Honesty it's unfair to compare two unreleased games together. Both titles are promising and are from developers with good track records. There are also unknowns about both games, that may make a direct comparison unfair (ie if one game is more open-world then the other, how many characters are rendered on the screen at a single time).
I'll pick up Heavy Rain any day... Alan Wake looks nice but nothing special, to me it looks like a mix between Silent Hill & Alone in the Dark.
One is a "point and click" the other is an "action/adventure" game, the graphics comparison isn't fair. You should compare Alan Wake's graphics to Infamous.
I agree, Sackboi. The graphical demands put on a game like Alan Wake are very different than in a game like Heavy Rain. For that reason they aren't directly comparable.
Look at the screen shots he provides in his video. A guy mentioned alan wake looks better because it was open world. WTF!? Don't get me wrong Alan Wake look very d*mn good, for a 360 game. Once again everything in the world is really shiny, because of overexagerated HDR lighting. This is in no way the fault of 360 hardware, but who knew wood could be that shiny. Heavy Rain has it too. But come on people, how can you honestly say AW looks better than HR? People just come to accept that ps3 exclusives have the EDGE(kit) lol no pun intended.
I don't see what you are talking about. Alan Wake doesn't look shiny to me. They both look good to me.
@sack_boi Maybe you didn't get the memo, but Alan Wake isn't a sandbox/open world game anymore. If anything, it should be compared to Uncharted. You know Uncharted, right?... The game Xbox fanboys like to pretend doesn't exist?
these types of comparisons are no longer valid (to me at least). I only look at comparisons that are the same game on different platforms (ie bayonetta, darksiders, etc) or ones that are sequels on the same platform (me1 & 2, uc1 & 2). These single platform release comparisons are nothing more than fuel to a flaim bait fire. Both can be good in their own right. Leave it at that.
Comparing HR and AW because they are dark and "Story driven" is like comparing Halo 3 and R&C because they are both colorful and you shoot things. EDIT: Disagree Fairy, where are you? Please tell me what offended you. I need to know, really.
Its probably because you mentioned Halo without explicitly stating that its like the most superest bestest game ever - not that it is but thats the mentality.
not really a comparison. Alan wake is being rushed my MS and is now looking like a Silent Hill game. Not that that's a bad thing but i thought it would want to set itself apart. If Story is the reason these to are being comparted then you're going to get more of the story from HR because you dont have to worry about killing some guys afraid of light to advance the story.' But the story behind Alan Wake is really, really nice.
360 has no games :)
Why do you keep posting that? You know as well as I do that the 360 has plenty of games to play. I don't get it... maybe you can PM me to explain it further?
already proved wrong.nice try tho.you typify the ps3 user...living in denial. the ps3 has fun
it a very effective way of pissing an xbots such as yourself.... by the way, 360 has no games ;)
Me, an XBOT? LOL
Everybody can act stupid like that.
But this is just getting old. Please come up with something new. If you're going to comment, say something relevant to the conversation than just the same thing over and over. You sound just a desperate as the Xbox fans who compare random games that have nothing to do with one another in hopes that they convince someone that the game on their system is better.
Alan Wake - An Adventure in the vein of Alone in the Dark (hopefully a bit better) Vs Heavy Rain - A modern, open-ended take on the Point & Click adventure?! Why not compare Doom with The Secret of Monkey Island whilst you're at it!?
it's completely pointless to compare these two titles, and anyone doing so is just wasting time and causing a ruckus amongst the fanboy community. Makes no sense to even put these two games up against one another
probably compare Doom to every other FPS going when it comes down to it. This thread has cheered up my pretty dull day. Thanks to all involved.
Well, I for one will be getting both. :) Yes they are both dark, but that is as close as they get to each other. I will not need to compare, just enjoy.
I will be getting both as well, this whole comparison thing is played out. Just buy both and enjoy it.
Meh, Everybody knows Alan Wake will own, its from Remedy, all their games are a success. The creator of Heavy rain still has to create their first success, their previous games where pretty niche.
Whats Next from that site, Halo wars vs MAG?
What other games did they make besides Max Payne1&2?
Just because a game is "niche" does not make it a failure / non-success. To many people, Indigo Prophecy was one of the best games they had ever played. Are you going to call those people wrong simply because the game itself failed to reach mainstream success? That's like using the sales argument when saying whether or not a game is good.
Yep, cause higher popularity means a lot of people like it, means a lot bigger chance that you might like the game. While niche games are generally liked by a smaller more specific demograph, thus decreasing the chances that someone might enjoy the game. Heavy rain has to proof by itself, by showing that it can be mainstream, if it remains niche, it fails. Game developers all want to be mainstream, theres no point in being niche.
It just means accessibility is greater in most cases. And once something is sold, it does not always mean that someone will be satisfied with it. Sales charts do not take into consideration refunds / returns. Modern Warfare 2 has become one of the highest-grossing titles of this generation, yet there are more than a fair share of gamers who are extremely dissatisfied with it. On the other hand, Halo 3 and Metal Gear Solid 4 have respectively sold a great number of units, and the majority of gamers have been satisfied with their purchases. But you discounting niche as poor reception based off sales is still a poor argument. Also, you cannot speak for every developer. Yes, game makers want as many people as possible to enjoy their games, but you also have to remember the type of crowd that the games will cater to. Not every genre or type of game is automatically guaranteed high sales in order to be great. Do you think ICO or Okami are failures as games just because they didn't sell well?
If more people like a game...more people like a game...who are you to tell them that their opinion is wrong and they should like some other game that you think is more quality? edit- the number of people complaining about MW2 are far outweighed by the people that love it...the reality is that a huge number of people have bought MW2, will continue to buy it, and are playing it online at this moment.
Except it's taken them Quantic 5 years to develop an impressive looking game that has us both interested and confused about what it actually is; something new, fresh. Remedy has spent 7 years developing what looks like a good Alone in the Dark clone, and have been thrown around by MS for at least half of that time. I hope Alan Wake will be great, but other (better) devs have suffered from the pressure Microsoft push onto them, e.g. Rare. Sony's practically given Quantic free reign to do what they want - and that interests me more, as a gamer. Also "theres no point in being niche. " By your own logic we should all just play Solitaire, and World of Warcraft. It's a creative industry.
Nope, by my logic we try to create games that are well accepted, i personally like to draw, but i do not draw what certain people like. Instead il draw something thats gets a good reception, or better said, is liked generally. Quality = meeting up with
You understand that compared to the likes of World of Warcraft, Card games, Bejewelled and other casual games, games like Max Payne, Alan Wake, Modern Warefare, Halo are the niche games? In a creative market, you don't get praise from doing the same old thing, you get zombies.
ok then in my opinion Apples OWN Oranges.\ why? because i think so. there Foxy, I OWNED YOU!! *sigh* -_-
No you didnt, unless you got a number that states apples are more popular then oranges, i think both are equally consumed. And Alan Wake will own. Youl see.
@5.12 "No you didnt, unless you got a number that states apples are more popular then oranges, i think both are equally consumed." What are you? 12? Judging a game's quality on sales has no merit. Many games, as you said, are niche, and if you realized what a "niche" title is, you would realize that it references to a game targeted at a select demographic. In such a case, you are saying the people in that demographic aren't as important as all the people that buy into games that aren't targeted to a set group. In terms of sales, you are right. The problem with that argument is that many of the "niche" titles will never be experienced by people outside of a games target demographic, meaning it's impossible for those people to claim they like the one game over the other, if they've never played one, without being ignorant of the fact they don't know if they would like the other. Let's compare two games, and in the spirit of this "news" and comments, let's compare two that shouldn't be: Fahrenheit (Indigo Prophecy) and Modern Warfare 2. Indigo Prophecy sold ok, but definitely not great, and MW2 is one of the fastest selling games of all time. However, of the people that have played both (very few in this thread I would wager), I'm betting the majority of them preferred Indigo Prophecy. Sure, no way to prove it, but you can't prove the other way around either, which is the point. Just because one sold far more than the other, doesn't mean anyone can make a flat statement that the better seller is the better game without making themselves out to be fairly ignorant. All that said, I'm not even so sure either game's sales numbers will be all that different from the other. I would guess 1.5-2mil sold for both games, maybe even higher with great reviews, which is great, no matter what some morons this generation say. Neither one will be Halo, MW, GT, GTA though (in terms of sales). I thought we all learned by now that other than Halo and Gears of War, 360 exclusives don't sell much different than ps3 exclusives. As for graphics, right now, I don't really even think it's close. Alan Wake definitely has better lighting from the little we have seen, but that is the game's main strength/premise too. Heavy Rain excels in every other aspect. People need to quit saying Heavy Rain requires less resources, etc. Alan Wake is no longer a sandbox/open world game, and we don't know how linear it will end up being. Really though, we've seen far more of Heavy Rain, so it's really not a fair comparison anyway. Both games look like they will be really good, both games are coming out at completely different times (at least 3 months apart), both games are completely different genres.
360 has one game :) Happy now?
One is a small controlled environment with quick time events aka heavy rain. The other is Big environment(Sandbox/linear in the night time) more action paced game. Dont see the similarities i would say Heavy rain is like the evolution of the point and click game.
Alan Wake is no longer a sandbox/open world game. It was announced quite a while ago now.
Next week: We compare apples to oranges. Which will win in the race for the favourite fruit? Find out in the next installment of 'Pointless Comparisons'.
Welcome to the world of current-generation shoddy-ass journalism edit: Wait, how can we even call this "journalism"? Even a crack-team of monkeys could do better than to come up with this nonsense...
I know, it's pathetic. Hits are all that matters nowadays it seems.
has alan wake ben shown on a 360 console running yet?
you're kidding right??? its only been shown on the 360. its not on pc at the moment. Im a ps3 FAN-BOY, but even i know that its only been running on the 360. now mass effect 2 on the other hand..... haven't seen one video of it running on the 360. only pc. i loved the 1st one, but the slowdown , frame rate and screen tearing was ABYSMAL.
hahah this guy is retarded he does not even know u don't play heavy rain ,its all qte but don't worry he will find out later. sony 1s again making easy to program games no physics,no particle effects,no a.i yes its easy to make the character models look great haha look i'm a 360 fan and the 360 has no games and is crap .i'm so angry ...haha droids don't get it we laugh at u .sony trolls are scared of the comparison as they know when both games are released alan wake will be the much much better game. oo and i prefer amazing environments to character models so to me alan wake looks better than heavy rain,the point why the focus on alan wake environment is cause the game is freeroam unlike heavy rain.
PS3 has no games for 2010.
this guys voice is so damn annoying.... But I'm excited for both :D more heavy rain but can't wait for alan wake too.
no contest here heavy rain DESTROY alan wait for miles.. proof: http://www.hcgbrasil.com.br... ( wow just wow) http://obsessedmikey.files.... ( danm!!) alan wait: http://www.thatvideogameblo... ( lmafao!!!!) bots.. admit 360 no have graphics like ps3.. ;)
Yep, Heavy Rain truly does destroy alan in the dark..i mean, alan wake. Alan wake looks like a generic adventure game with sub-par textures and WAY to much darkness.(to hide the awful textures i presume)
Heavy Rain is garbage. Looks like sh*t for a cutscene game. Doesn't matter it will flop hard anyways.
lol It's okay pog, everyone knows 360 can't graphically compete with PS3.Cling onto whatever little hope you can, cause the graphics speak for themselves and Heavy Rain rapes alan wake :( LOL! Down to 4 bubbles already eh? Damn i'm good :) You might as well get started on your new account, won't be long now
It's Garbage "Xhi". HR will flop hard. You're too stupid to realize it. It's an overhyped cut-scene. I didn't mean to offend your "thereapersson" persona lol. Stop PM-ing me with your Ironshiek account, Nasim.
Alan Wake looks better and has bigger environments and more freedom....Heavy Rain is on rails quick time events.
Annnd the paranoia sets in.. Please buddy, take your medicine lol :)
If you say so Shmee/Madens Raiders. LMAO :)))))