PC games are increasingly rare on the high street and it's a trend which isn't lost on 1C's Daryll Still, who explains that retailers really aren't giving our beloved platform a fair deal.
Which allows indie developers to make games on that platform. So what PC games are going to the consoles.... shall I tell you why that doesn't matter. A controller may never have as many keys as a Keyboard but it's not so hard to port a PC game to console and two consoles are powerful enough to do a PC game decently. I'd like to think PC games will remain with us for a while due to onlive and steam.
Dude, I have been a PC gamer my whole life. Ever since the SNES and Genesis days people have been saying the sky is falling on PC gaming. And guess what? It is still here today and it is still the best experience to be had. Without a PC console only fans would not have online play, the graphics advancements, and streaming video services. (PCs have ALWAYS done more than just play games)
i havent played on a console since the snes days. Pcs a tech leader, it paves the way for the future. If anything 10years from now, consoles will either be cloud based or all games will be download based. What happens to the PC now is an indication to what will happen the in console market few years from now. I exclusively game on pc, I have over 70games on steam now. I havent gone to a retail store to buy games in over 2 years now.
I don't know if it really counts as a PC game when it functions the same way everywhere :-/ . Can't wait to play OnLive on my cellphone by the way xD .
Which tells me that less peeps are buying games in stores and more are doing it via DD.
I haven't bought a PC game instore for ages now, don't plan to either. DD is great (especially around sale time) but I still get the majority of my games from Play/Amazon/Game online and posted. High street stores simply can't compete on price, stock or variety with online stores. Retail can't make as much profit on most PC games compared to consoles because the typical price of a PC game is that much lower anyway.
I haven't bought a PC game at retail since Diablo 2: LoD. About 10 years ago. I think the vast majority of PC gamers get their games from outlets like Steam. Then of course there's piracy.
1C games might be pushed out of retail...nothing against them, they publish ok stuff, but it's almost like trying to put an Xbox Live Arcade game on retail shelves.
Guys, what are these "stores", are they like building versions of play.com and Amazon? PC GAMER FOR LIFE, 2 games brought from a "store", about 20 times that from impluse, steam, and websites
I like impulse more than steam, you can back the games up like you can in steam, except you can do it all offline, and you don't need to run the impulse client to run the games, very easy to use.
if only impulse had the catalogue of steam
I agree, if Impulse had the catalog of games that Steam has, I wouldn’t buy from Steam anymore. When the Christmas sales were going on, EA had a great deal on their games. In fine print they stated that I had 30 days to download the game (and I can’t download them again). I was shocked and will never buy any games from their service again. I like to share the wealth as long as the prices are close to each other. I buy from D2D, Impulse and Steam, so I will take turns for their services.
I still buy physical copies, but not from retail stores, I only buy on the net now, GAME stores are really expensive in AUS, but games from their website are 30-40 less, and whats more, is that it's even more off when compared to other stores like EB games ( gamestop ), I pre ordered 5 games and they were all 74-82 and the standard retail price for games is $99 ( and in some cases $109 standard now), + I get free shipping so I can't complain, most of the time the prices are equal to steams or less, and I can't afford the bandwidth. I find it funny that people think higher retail sales mean their console is 'winning' it simply means that the user base is so stupid they don't know how to order from the net and are willing to pay up to 50% more due to their ignorance. Keep quoting VG charts kiddies, PC gaming is here to stay.
I like having my physical disk, but I never buy in store. Pc games are always on sale online somewhere, but never in store. I usually buy from www.gogamer.com They are hard to beat sometimes. I pre-ordered Splinter Cell Conviction for $37.00.
Once again I'm in agreement with dchalfont. Games that I am excited about and plan on buying, I buy physical copies. Heck, even a lot of my impulse buys are also physical copies from discount bins or amazon sales. While some places may have decent telecom competition to have decent service without ridiculous bandwidth caps, some people (like me) are stuck with 60 gigs/month - which I share with one other person. And while 60 gigs is quite a bit, some months it isn't enough and adding a few dollars/gig to the price of a game would definitely keep me from buying it online. I love the idea of steam much more than I love steam.
I only play classics but if I had I'd definately go with online distribution, on consoles I prefer discs
In terms of gaming, they are full of shi~.
If this is true then I guess I will not be buying an PC games after 2011. I hate steam as they have screwed me over in transactions to many times to count. The Whole DD movement is going to kill gaming for so many people it isn't even funny.
This is funny 'coz I literally have over 1K games on PC and last time, I brought PC game from store..... hmmm I don't even remember :D
well games like sins of a solar empire have sold a million copies online....so DD is definitely the future
I choose whatever version of the game is cheaper. If I can find a physical copy for a lower price than what Steam/D2D/Impulse are offering than that's what I'll get.
Digital copies on PC are great, I just wish they were all on Steam. I hate to clutter my PC with multiple download services.
I still buy PC games from retail, but I'm also open to digital distribution, I only use Steam, Impulse, GFWL, etc if the game is old and can't be found at retail anymore for a good price. When it comes to buying online I tend to "shop around" for deals on those services but the amount of DRM a service provides is also a deciding factor at times, even if it costs a bit more for less DRM.
you can stream onlive to the box with a controller connected, or stream it to a cell phone i heard, but the streams are coming from very powerfull pc systems and servers that run the game and stream them to you so no matter what your playing onlive from the graphics and streams are coming from a pc. the trouble with it is lag if gaming goes this way im going to miss building my pc's and onlive will have so much control over content think about how many games will not have mods for it and how everything you add to the game will prolly cost money in the future. Onlive= another way to try to control gaming just as in the past with consoles all they are is money machines pc market is harder to control thats why you see devs and corps shy away from pc gaming (although it is the best for gamers)
I agree and I hope onlive fails for that reason, I don't play subscription based games on principle, but onlive will be worse, once people start adopting it, companies will see incentives for developing onlive exclusives etc and when it becomes mass adopted, they have a monopoly on it, and can charge what they like, and at the end of the day ( or year ) you own nothing, it doesn't matter how cheap it is, the fact is that once you start using it instead of buying games, you are stuck paying the subscription if you ever want to play games, and if you don't you're back to square one with no console ( if they even make them when onlive becomes a monopoly ) or possibly no gaming pc, as it may hurt the pc market too. Nothing good can come from it, it only appeals to people who can't afford the games or game consoles, but those are the same people who rent their electrical appliances etc..they're suckers for a scam
Whilst onlive sounds interesting, I don't think it's that much of a threat to current PC gaming. I'll explain why. Arguably one of the greatest strengths of PC gaming is the potential for graphical excellence. 1600 resolutions etc. Whilst Onlive has the computers to render our favourite games in such a style, they can't send them down the internet tubes at anything like that resolution (unless I'm mistaken 2MB will get you 540 resolution, 5MB will get you 720). I'm not sure anyone who's paid a considerable amount to be able to play at 1600 will want to go back to 720. Mods would seem to be unviable on the Onlive system if I'm not mistaken. Also it seems it goes against the nature of PC gaming in that many core PC games are ones in which you spend many, many hours playing at a time (any RPG for example, most strategy games, most MMOs) where as the console games are more suited to short bursts of playtime. The reason this would seem to be a problem is if Onlive charges one a time-played basis, per hour. Thirdly, if all of Onlive is run on a huge cloud based server system, then theoretically all the games there must be developed for the PC in order to run. Now whilst some would make their games Onlive-exclusive, I think most would be tempted to also release their games for the PC in the traditional manner as little to no extra work would need to be done (unlike porting traditional console games to PC) and it would make financial sense to seek other revenue streams. Could mean more games being released on PC that otherwise wouldn't. My final reason why I'm not too worried about Onlive being a threat to PC gaming is price. I am a PC gamer and whilst I love that games are cheap(er) I am the first to admit that the price of the components for a good gaming PC aren't that cheap, but I accept this. Those who dislike the cost would probably have already been tempted away by console gaming. Onlive isn't going to convince PC gamers to switch to their system on the basis of price I don't think.
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