DICE: Bad Company 2 'reaching' Uncharted 2's graphics

Upcoming FPS Battlefield Bad Company 2 is "reaching" the graphical quality set by last year's stunning PS3-exclusive Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, but it will not surpass it, developer DICE had admitted.

Speaking to, producer Gordon Van Dyke said no game can claim to better the graphics seen in Naughty Dog's Uncharted 2.

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Sangria2930d ago

That's not what I saw in the beta. Disregard Bad Company 2's quality, it is plagued on consoles by a bunch of aliasing that seriously drops down our appreciation of graphics. So unless they fix that until the release of the game or they are talking about the PC version in extremely high settings, I don't see how the game can be a graphical reference.

Pennywise2930d ago

Completely agree. I did not enjoy the beta at all.

I know betas are not 100% on par with final release, but I have no clue how they think they will match UC2 on a multiplatform title. I hope they prove me wrong... but here is to wishful thinking!

darkmurder2930d ago

The graphics are good but not Uncharted 2 worthy although they add in destruction so thats a plus

Mo0eY2930d ago

I totally loved the beta, but I agree. The anti-aliasing does not help this game. When you can see blocky shadows, you might as well not even mention Uncharted 2 and BFBC2 in the same sentence.

Now, is it better than MW2? Totally.

Hellsvacancy2930d ago

I loved the beta (played it daily) but thats 1 BOLD statement, BC2 will look good (better then MW2 anyway) but not that damn good

DelbertGrady2930d ago

Graphics in multiplayer are almost always downsampled(as can be seen in Uncharted 2 as well). I think they are talking about the single player campaign.

evrfighter2930d ago

i'll make sure and post some pics with bad company 2 running at 1080p with no jaggies.


talltony2930d ago

Killzone 2 looks just as amazing online as it does in the single player.

DelbertGrady2930d ago

Haven't had the chance to play it online but if that's the case then Killzone 2 is an exception.

Games like COD MW2, Uncharted 2, Gears 2, and a ton of other titles have downsampled graphics in the multiplayer modes.

darkmurder2930d ago

"Speaking to, producer Gordon Van Dyke said no game can claim to better the graphics seen in Naughty Dog's Uncharted 2."

Consoles yes but PC no - Crysis still reigns supreme

The Maxx2930d ago (Edited 2930d ago )

Agreed. However KZ2 has limited weapons, not nearly as much destructable environments and no vehicles. KZ2 wasn't really pushing the hardware other to have to make large scale calculations.

There is by far more things happening on screen with Battlefield Badcompany 2 for the hardware to calculate thus having the devs to downscale the AA and graphics. Especially in multiplayer. This also applies to Uncharted 2. With less going on, more resources can go towards graphics.

Raf1k12930d ago (Edited 2930d ago )

The beta was awsome but the graphics are nowhere near Uncharted 2. There was a lot of model switching to lower poly models which was far too obvious.

It makes sense for the game to use lower poly models for people who are far away but shouldn't really happen when you're viewing the guy who killed you.

edit: The PC version will obviously be better graphically so it could be that which they're talking about and we should probably wait for the final product first.

Oldsnake0072930d ago

You dont know sh*t. KZ2 is heads and shoulders above BC2.

Read this, than you understand. Also KZ3 has 32 players online with no graphical and peformace restrictions.


The Maxx2930d ago (Edited 2930d ago )

Not sure what you're point is? We were talking about the graphics compared to BF and games like UC2 and KZ2 and WHY BF will not meet that of KZ2 or UC2.

Your comments are way off topic making you look like you don't know what you are talking about.

Also why are you talking about KZ3 in a discussion about what KZ2 offers?

You have been reported as Off topic.

@ Pennywise below VVVV
- ok i understand now...but maybe next time he could have used a better choice of language.. "You dont know sh*t" seems to be a little out of line to a pretty good conversation.

Pennywise2930d ago

The Maxx - he hit 3 instead of 2 and he was responding to someone elses comments. Don't be a tattle tail!

mikeslemonade2930d ago

For that comment i'm not buying this game no more. What a delusional statment to make? The game doesn't even look as good as MW2. So first you gotta beat MW2, then killzone 2, and then Uncharted 2.

Rainstorm812930d ago

BF:BC2 beta's graphics isnt on par with U2:AT (beta) so i doubt that the final product will reach U2's final product. The MP is a loss for BF at this point.

Far too much detail. (the character's mouth move when you talk through your mic for christ's sake)

But thats U2's advantage its a smaller MP game.

reneki2930d ago

true that the beta graphics weren't that great, but when playing a game like this, i don't care how it looks so much as how it plays, and it plays well.

The Maxx2930d ago (Edited 2930d ago )

You're not going to buy the game becuase of their comment? because they are "reaching" to have the same graphics as UC2? They are not saying they have reached it or surpassed it. I think EVERY dev is trying to "reach" the graphic's of UC2.

I guess this means your game playing days are over...

shadow27972930d ago

"I was looking for something where I could say, okay, that we're doing better. I looked at their vistas, and I think that our vistas, because it's in game, this is actual in-game terrain you could theoretically take your soldier and walk up to, our vistas are better. Naughty Dog, if you hear this, I challenge you versus our vistas!"

Is he serious? Uncharted 2's vistas pretty dang incredible. I might have to check that out.

haqshot2930d ago

This is purely a marketing ploy to stir up hype. It's a deceiving lie, nothing more. Move on.

AKNAA2930d ago

"To even be close, to me is quite an honour as a developer."

That rite there is Honesty and Respect! which Dice should get much props for.

cwir2930d ago

I find it hard to believe that BFBC2 will look as good as Uncharted 2, HOWEVER all of you bi4ching about what the guy said - it's all of YOU who don't know what you're talking about, not him. None of you saw the game in it's current or final state, you've only seen the BETA version which was released 2 months ago, which was almost 5 months before the final release date. A BETA which aim was to test the multiplayer gameplay, not show you the graphics... Plus it was just a simple map, full of sand and some buildings, nothing to show off. You haven't seen anything else. Who knows, he might be right, let's just hope so.

Again, I don't think that it will turn out to be true, but please, don't compare a BETA to a final product.

GrandTheftZamboni2930d ago

Why is anyone offended by this? I see it as a big compliment to Naughty Dog.

The Happy Baby2930d ago

And thats not anything special. lol. I expect PC games to be visually superior to anything on consoles....thats why i think a game should be fun, first and foremost.
Being Pretty doesnt mean its worth playing.

But if they are talking about the console versions, hopefully they can back up their claims.

Maddens Raiders2930d ago (Edited 2930d ago )

at the people downplaying the greatness of this game and the -----> beta visuals. This game already looked good in the beta and with a March release date there is no telling how good the final gfx will be. PS3 is the lead platform on this thing so I know the visuals on IT are going to be proper -- if they mean UC2 gfx on the PC, then more power to PC owners, but that still makes me anxious for my PS3 copy.

It actually sounds like some people are mad that it (((((could))))) achieve these visuals lol, what do you guys want them to say -- we have regressed? Hell, the gfx I see in Army of 2 40th Day don't look that bad AT ALL (and I'm not even in to the series), and doesn't EA publish (have their expertise behind) this game as well? Anyway, I hope it does look that good and I think people are still underestimating the console that can do everything. I don't know how it will look on other consoles but I do know that the PS3 is the lead.

I also think that some of you guys are taking this a bit too far, thinking that DICE is saying F Naughty Gods we're going to be better in a FPS -- and that's not what they're saying at all:

From the article:
But Van Dyke reckons Bad Company 2, which is our 37th most anticipated game of 2010, will surpass Uncharted 2 in one key area: vistas.

"The thing is though, we have much bigger environments. To even be close, to me is quite an honour as a developer. The one thing I did was, when I looked at their game I was like, damn them! What have they done to the rest of us? I was looking for something where I could say, okay, that we're doing better. I looked at their vistas, and I think that our vistas, because it's in game, this is actual in-game terrain you could theoretically take your soldier and walk up to, our vistas are better. Naughty Dog, if you hear this, I challenge you versus our vistas!"
He's talking about the vistas and giving mad props to Naughty Gods for turning the industry upside down with their jaw dropping visual effects.

I know I may get some disagrees for this, but I'm going to say that KILLZONE 3 are the visuals they should be looking to exceed, because to me that game has the most impressive graphics of any console based fps TO DATE.


MiloGarret2930d ago

How about actually reading the article children?

Here, I'll even post the important quotes so you don't have to strain your fingers by clicking the link. And to those comparing the beta (an admitted old build) to UC2 or even UC2's Beta, you're morons, basically. Wait for the final product, which is of what he's talking about.

Taken from article:

Speaking to, producer Gordon Van Dyke said no game can claim to better the graphics seen in Naughty Dog's Uncharted 2.

"I wouldn't make that kind of claim," he said. "Uncharted 2 is an amazing-looking game. But we're reaching that level of quality. It's going to be hard for any game to be able to make a claim that they look better. But we are getting to, I feel, that level, where it's looking very impressive. When you see it - and I've heard other people say it as well, so it's not just me - other people are saying it's getting there."

"The thing is though, we have much bigger environments. To even be close, to me is quite an honour as a developer. The one thing I did was, when I looked at their game I was like, damn them! What have they done to the rest of us? I was looking for something where I could say, okay, that we're doing better. I looked at their vistas, and I think that our vistas, BECAUSE IT'S IN-GAME, THIS IS ACTUAL IN-GAME TERRAIN YOU COULD THEORETICALLY TAKE YOUR SOLDIER AND WALK UP TO, our vistas are better. Naughty Dog, if you hear this, I challenge you versus our vistas!"

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Wow, what a jerk right, he's saying that he's proud to even be close to UC2, jerk. OH, and, apparently, the vistas are better, because you can actually go there, fücking jerk!!!

/end sarcasm


zeeshan2930d ago

It's a multiplatform game which means it will also be on Xbox360. Uncharted 2's graphics are only possible because of the computing power combined with huge disk space available thanks to BD technology. However, it is great to see other developers showing respect. Naughty Dogs have really outdone everybody in almost every department.

Come on Dice, show how it's done to IW!

MNicholas2930d ago

any talk of coming remotely close to Uncharted 2's visuals can be considered plausible. Based on available videos they're not even close.

Perhaps his real goal was to avoid comparison with another shooter ... Killzone 2. That game is so advanced that it even applies lighting nd physics calculations to something as seemingly trivial as the little burning spark-like embers from an explosion. Dust clouds are affected by dynamic events in real time. Killzone 2 has set the technology standard higher than anyone could have predicted.

Here's a video showing just a few of Killzone 2's advances:

Maddens Raiders2930d ago (Edited 2930d ago )

Milo Garrett ^^^, that's what I'm trying to say. I think people just saw the title and said to themselves, "oh hell no, no they didn't!" That's not what occurred at all -- these guys give props to ND over and over as they should; their just trying to match ND in certain -----> ((aspects)) of UC2 -- not topple UC2. 0_o

edit 1: MNicholas - I disagreed with you because they are not trying to be better than the entirety of UC1 & UC2. Did you guys read the article & what Van Dyke actually said and are you all aware that it's (BFBC2) not out for 3 months yet?

I do agree with you MNicholas about your comments regarding KILLZONE 2 though. That is spot on imo. KILLZONE 2 has set the physics and lighting bar to a level that still has not come close -- to being surpassed.

I wish I could give you an agree as well. :(

IaMs122930d ago

UC2 does have amazing graphics, but id like to point out that BC2 has total destructible environments, literally you can take down the whole building now, as seen in one of the videos. I think if they didnt have all that they could at least equal UC2 graphics.

captain-obvious2930d ago

on PC with DX11 .... sure

on PS3/XBOX360

sorry DICE never gona happen

Major_Tom2930d ago

You give bad press to a great franchise, change your name.

The Maxx2930d ago

The second you stop tarnishing a great musician and a great song with yours, i will then change mine. ;)

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Government Cheese2930d ago

The PC version of Bad Company 2, based on the very few screenshots I've seen, looks better than Uncharted 2. The console versions don't though.

The Maxx2930d ago (Edited 2930d ago )

Wow, how quick you are to completely ignore the super star artist who gave birth to the character in the song that you're tarnishing. I would rather "steal" the name of a great franchise then to completely disrespect a REAL LIFE super star musician. Way to pay tribute. *Rolls eyes*

Any other dumb off topic comments you wanna make and continue to make yourself look lower than you can possibly get?

JonnyBadfinger2930d ago

while the graphics may look good compared to a 3rd person shooter, it wont be graphically better then UC2.

while i dont like uncharted 1 or 2, i will admit the games do have the best back-drops in the console gaming world, atleast that ive seen so far.

The most impressive thing about BFBC2 is the sheer size of each map and the ammount of graphical i guess you could say polishing, they have managed to apply is pretty f***en fantastic.

Im trading MW2 in for BFBC2, since the game will supply a working and enjoyable multiplayer experience. Perks are just SO F***EN ANNOYING!

Saaking2930d ago

No multiplat will ever reach PS3 exclusive quality. At least, no multiplat that's on 360 or wii. If it's PS3/PC then maybe.

3sexty rulzzz2930d ago

microsofts, xbox live subscription; here check it out. this for the fans of the xbox360.

kwicksandz2930d ago

i expect the PC version to easily surpass U2. native 1080p with 16xAA and AF triple buffered at 60fps is tough to beat

The Lazy One2930d ago (Edited 2930d ago )

How do you see the screen enough to play any of the PS3 games with sony's [email protected] so far down ur throat?

"God of War 3 demo is just a demo and not representative of the final product! It will so pretty it will melt your eyesockets!"
"Battlefield's beta released 5 months before launch could never look any better than it did..."

MiloGarret2930d ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, best comment of the day goes to YOU!

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NobleRed2930d ago

I played the beta on the ps3 and there is no way that they reach the UC2 quality.

bumnut2930d ago (Edited 2930d ago )

How can you say that? a beta is a test product.

Judge the final product not the test version. Give them a chance to prove it before saying it won't happen.

Cueil2930d ago

That's how the world turns

SuperStrokey11232930d ago

I just a beta and its online as well so they are going to be less pretty of course, but the difference is rather large. THey will need to improve the game ALOT if its supposed to match it.

A Cupcake for Gabe2930d ago

You say SP graphics > Online

both Killzone2/uncharted2 have online graphics equivalent to the campaign

reneki2930d ago

BF is a solid and great multiplayer game, uncharted is a SP minded game. sure it has MP, but it doesn't come close to BFs multiplayer. so i could care less if uncharted MP looks amazing if im not gonna be playing.

mfwahwah2930d ago


There's an exception to everything.

superrey192930d ago (Edited 2930d ago )

You guys need to read the article. The guy said it was "getting there", meaning he admits BF:BC2 doesn't look as good as Uncharted 2. Also, he mentions why BF would never look as good as Uncharted, the maps are WAY bigger. Also, full destructibility also hinders that possibility. Oh and remember, BF is a multi plat game so its not gonna have the same amount of polish that an exclusive would have. At least DICE is trying to push themselves and produce a better looking game, unlike others like MW2.

Eternally332930d ago

When it was the Uncharted beta it had the same quality online as the final release.

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talltony2930d ago (Edited 2930d ago )

I played the battlefield bad 2 beta on ps3 and it is safe to say.....

Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 are on a whole nother level! End of story!

tdrules2930d ago

itll beat UC2 graphics on PC like most PC games in the past 4 years

blackmamba7072930d ago

BFBC2 = BFBC1 with bigger contrast and borrowed from Mirror's Edge lightning effects + global illumination

that's still far far away from level of quality Uncharted 2 has, even Killzone 2 still rapes BFBC without effort

DICE made themselves look dumb with that comparison.

TheXgamerLive2930d ago (Edited 2930d ago )

Gears of War 1 beats UC2's graphics back in 2005, lol, seriously UC2's are nice but only the animations/cut scenes are really good and not stunning so it's only been sony fans who say otherwise. There's 80 to 90 percent of new releases that beat UC2 again as well, I mean Mass Effect 2, as well as ME1, Splinter Cell Conv., Alan Wake, get the picture.
Back to Battle Field Bad Company 2, hella yeah this game looks incredible, true realism, not uc2 cartoony.

toaster2930d ago (Edited 2930d ago )

PC graphics are better. Don't say "ohh UC2 gameplay is better, flows better, story is better." This article is about graphics. And PC dominates in that area. It has been for the past few years. Even the mighty Uncharted 2 can't compete with the power of most PC graphics.

Shane Kim2930d ago

hahaha xgamer, who do you think will believe your claims? Santa Claus?
You're sounding like a politician right now, you have bold statements and claim alot but you have no concrete evidence to show.

AliTheBrit192930d ago

Yup lmao

PC Graphics beat Uncharted 2 years ago

Move on xD

chidori6662930d ago

killzone 2 already is better than gear of glitches 2

see the link :

"Killzone 2 delivers a visual masterpiece with unparalleled graphics setting the new bar for this generation. Considering that this comparison was based of the Killzone 2 demo the retail version will only guarantee that Killzone 2 reins supreme amongst the industries best."

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multplataform games graphics is generic in relation of exclusives..

Sir Ken_Kutaragi2930d ago

"but it will not surpass it, developer DICE had admitted"

Of course it can't surpass Uncharted 2!!! If it was 'PS3 ONLY' then maybe yeah!!! ;-D

+ I just played the Demo of 'Dark Void' Hmm...oh dear looks like a CR*P Looking xBox 360 game!!! ;-D
(Well it did say 'Unreal Engine' when the Demo started) :-/

Obama2930d ago

"Gears of War 1 beats UC2's graphics back in 2005"

I hope you are being sarcastic, I really do. Otherwise you are just nuts.

PlayStation X2930d ago

lol @xgamer
kids in denial.

Dr_Nefarious2930d ago


Dude I have maxed out crysis on ultra high everything and kept a 50 fps framerate (if that tells you anything), and UC2 beats crysis. I can tell you for certain that the textures in UC2 look better at 720p than what crysis was even on the highest resolution, because resolution means squat, it is highly overated.

Yes the multiplats are better on the PC than the PS3 and 360 (not by much either), but to be bvtt hvrt because UC2 breaks you're mold of beating out almost every PC game? Cmon, stop hiding behind your powerfull PC and except the fact that UC2 is what every developer strives to beat. Too bad the developers have figured this and you haven't. Youd didn't hear Dice say we are trying to up our graphics to match crysis,shadow horizon or etc. They specifically said UC2 for a reason. I wonder what that reason could be?

Udidntlistenpunk2929d ago

Now everyone wants to break Uncharteds bar.

But in all actuallity, Killzone 2 deserves as much praise as Uncharted 2s technical prowess.

Killzone 2 did came out earlier. And despite the hate for the PS3 in 2006-2008 and the hate KZ2 received from thousands of these socalled "journalists" whom all said it was IMPOSSIBLE, KZ2 destroyed them.

And where are these phony journalists now? Fking asshats that they are.

"but, but, but PS3 cant do that"
"but, but, but 360 is just as powerfull as PS3"

Riiiigggghhhttt. These clowns should be banned from ever writing something on the internet ever again.

Jeppe2929d ago

@Shane Kim
"Swedes on crack again"

Yes, and we have big ships and swords coming for your coast line to burn your villages and steal your women.. *Evil laughter*

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gamerdude112930d ago

It's not a lie, if you believe it.

darx2930d ago

Have you ever seen the show?

gamerdude112930d ago

@3.1 - Seinfeld? Of course. It's funny that people disagree with this statement.