Team Ninja's Yosuke Hayashi, producer and director for Ninja Gaiden Sigma, says that the developer chose to dedicate Sigma to PS3 to make it the best game it could be, and is confident that its achievements will silence PS3 critics.
The more i think NG2 is PS3 bound. Problem is I don't have a ps3.
This was also the best game it could have been on the xbox. lol. I still want this though.
Another dev basically says that the PS3 is superior. But for some reason xbots don't get it, they still argue, thinking there smarter than developers! Hayashi-san knows, which console is superior!
Do you read any gamer news?? Everyone knows the PS3 has more power than the 360, that's old news. The thing is, if you look at the numbers it doesn't matter. PS3s aren't selling well anywhere in the world. Sometimes with my PS3 I feel like I've got this awesome rocketship but, no fuel for it:( Sorry, I just get a little pissed about spending the money to get the PS3 and I end up playing my 360 a lot more. The games simply aren't there and there's no light at the end of the tunnel until the great exclusives come out in 2008 (with the exception of Heavenly Sword and Lair). It's just frustrating for me!!!
Keep thinking that firwire. Maybe one a day a game will come out that finally matches the 360.
I can play Shadow of the Colossus on my PS3...and that feels a lot more "next-gen" than anything on your system.
ALL HAIL TEAM ICO!!!
We all get the Darkness in a couple of weeks...we should all be hugging and singing!!!
I tried ninja gaiden and ill stick with devil may cry 4 I like the combination of firearms and bladed weapons plus whats cooler killing deamons, beast and monsters or killing brown , white , and black ninjas.
Devil may cry is better.
-- "He went on to explain that Sigma uses self-shading techniques and other advanced graphical effects in full 1080p resolution and still manages to maintain a solid 60 frames per second which, he claims, no other game in the current generation has managed. "That includes games on Xbox 360," Hayashi adds." --
We shall really see now I guess? Amazing!
Has there been a NG on xbox 360????
Souldn't you use that to compare the 2?
Because by your logic he is also sh*ting on the ps3 lineup and you beloeved motorstorm/resistance.
actually no, motorstorm and RFOM are great games, but we want games to keep looking better right, its called progression, its a good thing.
I have this game on the Xbox but it doesn't compare at all. It is like a totally different game. It plays 2000 times better looks 2000 times better and includes a ton of new features(including Rachel). I played the demo and it is unbelievable. I bet they sell at least 100,000 the first week maybe 200,000.
Sigma, here I come.
 @ bladestar way bellow......you crack me up ho.
its to bad the creator of NG, already said that NG2 was for the 360 only
and its gonna be HARD AS HELL!! I remember playing it on my xbox and i was pulling out my hair trying to beat it. I cant wait for this game.
Sure was hard...
...I do remember a better, harder game though.
Man, what was it called???
DEVIL MAY CRY!!! THE ONLY ACTION GAME!!!
And also that it will make other Developers loose heart...
All arguments aside Sony fanboys; the PS3 should be able to do 1080p at 60fps; I expect there will be games that benefit from the cell; but until I see it I am going to keep baiting you easy to bait fanboys.
They did say that NG2 was going to be made for the 360 only but as we have seen exclusives have been coming and going for both sides. Maybe if the dev's see huge sales for this game on the PS3 there may be a chance that they will change their mind and make it multi-platform.
It plays better than the version released on the original xbox years ago? WOW! that's incredible! How could they ever do that?
I don't know about you... but I was expecting the PS3 version to be better than the original xbox since the PS3 is at least $450 more expensive than the original xbox.
By the way, Team Ninja is known for making great games and always push the hardware more than many other developers...
It's too bad this game will not be released on the 360... maybe because it wouldn't do that great considering the fact that the one for the xbox is BC with the xbox 360 and many would not pay for a port(same storyline). If you already own a PS3 you must buy this game, it will be great since the original xbox game was also great (imagine this one).
Anyways... do you actually think that the next version of Ninja Gaiden for the 360 will look as good or better than this?
"Ninja Gaiden to silence PS3 critics" I don't think critics are doubting the PS3 capabilities to make pretty games... everyone knows the PS3 is powerful. Most critics arguments are against price, blu-ray trojan horse and lack of games compared to the xbox 360.
Of all the 360 fans here you are one of the few I respect.. You say what you think always , despite being a 360 fan you give your opinion respectfully.. well at least that's what i notice so kudos and Pos feedback for you ..
In the sigma Topic.. yeah people who played this game on the xbox probably won't be interested on it, but i gotta say that most of the comments here are from fanboys and they are going to say whatever they can to talk down the PS3.. you know that.
I've never been a Ninja Gaiden fan, but to tell you the truth SIGMA is what I have enjoy the most on my PS3 and its only a demo. More than motorstorm heh ( don't get me wrong motorstorm is awesome)..
SIGMA looks beautiful and plays great and I'm sure if this game was coming to the 360 a lot of ya'll would buy it.
Pardon ma english
when the original Ninja Gaiden came out on the XBOX the console was still $180 [I know, I finally bought one for NG]. So the PS3 is hardly at least 450 $'s more. Plus you can get a 20 GB PS3 anyway which furher makes this price GAP bogus. Just had to point that out.
Also, I'm sure Sigma would sell a million plus if it were on the 360 because it's still a great game, but 100 times better looking, and has additional content. It's almost unarguably the best Action/Adventure game ever and now it's even better. So I'd be willing to bet that 360 owners would open their arms and embrace this game if it were released on the 360. Because backwards compatibility has nothing on Sigma. But a portion of this experiment [if you will] was to further enhance the NG fan base and allow users who haven't played the game to finally play it. Although it seems everyone I know who is buying it, including myself, have already played and/or own the original.
As for lack of games. It's easy to say there's a lack when the PS3 has only been on the market for nearly 7 months. I think we can all agree that any new console has a lack of games. But in the end it's always going to be a matter of opinion about just how many games there are. Some will argue games that appeal to them while the facts themselves don't lie [facts provided]. But with any console it often comes down to what each specific user enjoys and finds interesting.
Just a comparison on this gens software releases for 360 and PS3.
According to gamespot.com here are the approx numbers of titles released from launch to the end of the June on the 360 and PS3. Mind you these are approx numbers [from launch of both till June], and I'm not going to count each title time and time again to ensure they're dead nuts so if anything you can give or take a couple titles tops. However I did double check the numbers so they shouldn't be off by many, if any... and if you doubt these numbers head to gamestop.com and count all the titles yourself [excluding EU and JP releases].
360 = 64 games
PS3 = 64 games
Again, Mind you this is an approx number and excludes EU and JP releases, but dl games are on the list and I didn't weed those out...
Best action game???
Need I remind you that DMC3 and GOW got better reviews???
DMC3 is still the pennicle of action for me. How can you even compare NG and DMC??? There's an ACTUAL STORYLINE in DMC...and you feel like a BAMF!
I said it's almost unarguably the best action/adventure game ever. And I'm not talking reviews. Reviews BLOW as they're nothing more than an individuals opinion. Try tallying the opinion of millions of gamers instead. Is it my personal best? Probably not. DMC certainly isn't though either. While GoW, DMC, and NG are all great games they're all certainly the best in their own right. And a reason I said almost unarguably NG is the best. But when it comes to technical aspects not a single game has anything on NG running @ 60 FPS in 1080p will full self shadowing. DMC 4 probably won't even pull that one off. But again, "almost unarguably" was used for a reason. And there's certainly no denying that at the very least it's one of the best. But obviously your opinion is that DMC is, and you're certainly entitled to that as it's your opinion.
According to gamerankings.com Ninja Gaiden Black averaged better review scores than GOW or DMC
Either way all are good games, but Ninja Gaiden was my fav from last gen. I am picking this up for my PS3 since my xbox disc got scratched and I am looking for any reason to start using my PS3 for something other than watching movies.
Whats with all the PS3 fud today?.
#4.1 If you're asking that i doubt your post #1 holds a drop of water.
you just *CAN'T accept it when *ANYONE has something positive to say about the PS3, can you?
even when *DEVELOPERS NOT UNDER SONY'S PAYROLL say the system has more power than people give it credit for, you can't accept it. why?
why do you hate the PS3 so much? it's just a gaming console. i'm pretty sure it didn't murder your entire family (unless it somehow caught fire and burned your house down with everyone and everything you've ever loved inside of it).
the undeniable truth of the situation, is that the PS3 has been out for about 7 months. true, yes? with me so far?
at 7 months old, we have barely even *SCRATCHED the surface of what this console can do. true again, correct? good.
the PS2 has been improving quite a bit in the past year, supposedly it's "last year," and i'm always impressed at what the system can do (ie, God of War 2, and FFXII).
*ALL CONSOLES GO THROUGH THIS.
early PS1 games pale in comparrison to later PS1 games.
early X Box games pale in comparrison to later X Box games.
early PS2 games pale in comparrison to later PS2 games.
why *SHOULDN'T the PS3 continue to impress those that have been working on it practically *EVERYDAY for who knows how many years?
are you telling me that you know more than those people? that you somehow have intimate knowledge of the PS3, it's architecture, and the ins and out of said architecture, more that people whose job it is to maximize it?
because if you do, i suggest getting Sony on the phone right now and applying for a job, because clearly, they need your immense knowledge.
go away troll. you aren't wanted here.
i remember reading, not too long ago, an interview with either Itagaki, or the Sigma director, who said that he viewed Ninja Gaiden Sigma, as "the beginning of the Ninja Gaiden franchise for next gen CONSOLES." not console. not 360, but conSOLES. meaning more than one.
it wouldn't surprise me that if Sigma sells well on the PS3, we'll be seeing NG2 on the PS3 along with it's 360 counterpart.
Itagaki has stated time and time again that he never wants to disappoint *ANY of Team Ninja's fans.
so, are PS3 fans of Ninja Gaiden somehow *LESS fans than X Box Ninja Gaiden fans?
why the hell would Itagaki and company *BOTHER to get a whole new set of fans hooked on his series, then *DROP them with the next game in the series?
Itagaki wants the Ninja Gaiden series to appeal to as many gamers as possible, whether they be 360 or PS3 owners.
it's funny to me, how people have to section themselves off into groups, where the developers of the game don't care about fanboyism. they just want you to *BUY their game. hell, buy a copy for each platform if you have to.
do you think Sony cares if you own an X Box 360? as long as you own a PS3, and are actively buying software for that PS3, they could care less.
do you think Microsoft cares if you own a PS3 as well as a 360? of *COURSE not, as long as you buy Gears of War and Halo 3 for the 360.
you aren't winning points with either company for being a closeminded doof, and you're ultimately just shortchanging yourself out of some quality gaming by shutting out any other system that isn't your favorite.
i don't own a 360 or a Wii, but god knows as soon as Mass Effect, Bioshock, Fable 2, Smash Bros, Metroid Prime, and Animal Crossing hit i'll be picking up each console pronto.
I remeber them say xcatly that if sigma sell well dont be surprise if two comes to the ps3.
those are all extremly premature judgements made on the ps3.
every new system has those problems.
360 did. No games, too expensive.
as the 360 for using DVDs thats the REAL problem that will arise FOR SURE. so people should critize that.
and i know i know COMPRESSION.
you cant keep on compressing things IT DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT.
compression does work like that.
i make music.
and you can`t just keep on compressing things.
do you know what happens? the sound eventually breaks apart and becomes a new sound (like alot of electronic music, APHEX TWIN)
all those crazy sounds are are synths overcompressed.
compressing Mp3s is the same thing.
what happens when you compress the file as small as it can get, IT LOSES SOUND QUALITY.
most people don`t notice anymore, but those songs sound better than the mp3 versions you have of them.
right out the studio sound is crystal clear. WHY? because it hasn`t been compressed yet, outside of compression it takes during recording (if you make music that makes sense LOL)
don`t just say things to say them.
like i said your argument are as lightweight as it gets.
One of the biggest designs in consoles is how to uncompress data on a storage devices in a way that it can restore it to it's highest quality, develop a new way to compress data, and develop a new way to uncompress data and you're looking at games that are the same quality with less space. if I archive music, and un-archive it later sound has pretty much the same quality. Know what happens when you use uncompressed files in videogames without repeating them? Load times rise by a lot. Compression is necessary in videogames.
Dude, maybe you should stop talking out of your @ss.
I don't hear critics talk about the PS3 not being able to have great games. It's mostly about the things I meantioned.
"all extremly premature judgements" they may be premature... but that does not mean they are to be ignored... If they are meaningless then explain to me why the PS3 is selling so poorly? The PS3 is has the hardware...why is not selling as high as the 360 or the wii? two words, (Games, Price).
I also agree that the 360 didnt have games at first. But did they have to? Unlike the PS3 microsoft could get away with taking things slow since there were no alternatives. A company can get away with lots of thing when there is no competition.
Also, I don't recall the xbox 360 sell numbers being as low as the PS3 for any single month since release (ever).
I mean, look at the charts for the US.
PS3 sales seem to be going flat and posibly down.
If not due to price and lack of game... then why?
BLAH BLAH BLAH....
OH YEAH THE ARTICLE IS ABOUT NG SIGMA!!!
CHILDREN PLEASE STOP ARGUING OVER SOMETHING THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARTICLE WHAT SO EVER.
your right its because lack of games and price.
but again were talking about the first year.
i think they justify the numbers.
but i don`t think their fair complaints this early.
I guess i`m just looking at the "big picture" (what ever that means)
my point is people aren`t buying it,
but that can change quickly. (like it did w/ 360 w/ GeOW)
mind your own business.
you comment on the artical, if you feel the need.
funny, now your commenting on something unrelated to NGS
i wasn`t talking about music for the 360.
just about what compression does in general if you over do it.
I fear you don't know what you're talking about. Music is the cause for the increase in disc size. So you don't have to worry about the music in 360 games being over compressed.
I make music as well and what you are describing in your example sounds like Sample Bit Rate conversion vs compression. You should do some research into lossless audio compression. It does exist and it's some facinating stuff. So I think your DVD vs Blu-ray argument is thin at best.
i want to answer you some things, (and sorry for my english). It's true that the ps3 have the critics but some of them aren't fair. the ps3 don't sell only because of price, i know a lot of people that want one but don't buy it because of price, the games is a problem like you said but a normal one, because the ps3 is out for only 7 months, what games did 360 had in that period? and what was the 360 sales in that period? You can't pretend good games here and now, because it's too early, but wait, after some week NG sigma is out, and was there a game of this caliber out in the same period for the 360? correct me if i'm wrong but i think not, gears was out after a year i think. And because of these even the sales is normal to be slow and low now. And don't show me the US sales where is clear that is a xbox territory, there is the strongest market of the xbox, because if so i can show you the japan sales where the ps3 sold 3 times as much as 360 being out a year before, it's unfair, we must look at the WW sales to compare. And NOW we all know that the 360 is first, but it's right to be that, it was released first, it had more time to make good games so if it wasn't first with 10 mill it was a shame and a failure for the xbox project. In the end i say that all you 360 or wii or even ps3 fans that says "the war is over, we are the winner" are stupid jerks and i hate them, you will be able to compare things only after 2-3 years of good games, experience and sales, not after some months. see ya Bladestar!
wow great looking game :) will be getting that i guess...anyways maybe NG 2 might be multi depends on the sales :) just got to wait and see i guess
People can sense the gap between PS3 and 360 and how it will be hard for PS3 to ever catch up; thats where all these Bullshit post from members and news posts are coming from. This fools talking about DVD lol.
No ones thinking about the PS3 when it comes to NG2 the lead teams are busy with Xbox as its their lead platform and their choice platform. NG2 for PS3 lol.
Heres one of the only statments TI has talked about NG2 in detail this is the most he's ever said about NG2. TN gave PS3 owner Sima and its exclusive i doubt he would betray xbox owners and not do the same besides he knows he has a large loyal base on MS's platform wher he can make alot of money. Dude help build the Xbox brand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
#17 Xbox fans talk alot because they read and our opinion are based on commom sense and facts i'm not saying the dude that developed Sigma won't ask TI etc to develope it from the ground up for PS3 6-7 years from now or on PS4 as they will not port games as of now NG2 is built from the ground up for 360 with no other console in mind.
((((((((#17.1)))))))))) don't be a fool i can find dozons of PS3 and 360 games on IGN and 1up games list that are mentioned but say unannounced or yet to be comfirmed despite devs saying they're comming or talks of the game coming; theres plenty of games that we/i know are coming with sites having games on unannounced & uncomfirmed status.
((((17.1))) here's a quote from TI from the Team Ninja's Itagaki Speaks His Mind interview :GI: Now that Sigma’s done, how do you rate Hayahsi’s performance?
Itagaki: I think he did pretty well for a younger guy. He used the battle formation that I taught him to use, and I think he was pretty successful. http://www.gameinformer.com...
((((LiQuiFiedArt )))) LOL.
#22 its alittle more one sided due to the size of each fanbase do you understand? heh!. Clown. lol
lol well either way as long as theres good games :)
Hey, I was not aware that Team Ninja had even officially announced NG2, much less that it would be a xbox 360 exclusive. Please post a link to this startling revelation!
Edit: I see you posted one now. Thanks.
there hasn't been an announcement on NG 2 let alone which platform/s it will in fact appear on. It's assumed that they're developing it right now for the 360 but there's nothing official on the game, nor is there any statement saying that Team Ninja is in fact working on it...
And no, there's never been one instance where Itagaki, Team Ninja, or Tecmo for that matter state that in fact NG 2 is in development, NEVER!! Never once does anyone state they are in fact working on it...
From Game Informer:
GI: Games like Code Cronos and Ninja Gaiden 2 have been sort of waiting in the wings for quite a while now. Do you think we’ll be hearing some announcements about those titles in 2007?
Itagaki: I’d like to show everybody some of the new stuff that we’ve been working on in the near future. The only problem with that is that when the other developers see what we’re doing, they’re going to lose all of their motivation to create any game in the same genre, because there’s no way they can beat it.
Holds no meaning. He's simply stating he'd like to show what they've been working on which could include NG2 but doesn't confirm it. He could simply be talking about Code Cronos and/or other titles they're working on. While you can assume he's replying to Code Cronos and NG2 it's still nothing more than assumption as he doesn't state he'd like to show what they've done on NG 2 and Code Cronos. ASSUMPTION plays no role in a FACTUAL argument.
...considering Ninja Gaiden is crap.
NG2 is coming out on the Xbox 360, however TN will probaly make it for the PS3 or PS4 in the future.
Like Xbox fans get angrier and angrier the more positive news they hear about PS3, because "THEY KNOW" aswell as i've known, They Jumped to the newest console first to the market. And the lack of patience will bite them in the arse.
One of very reasons i've waited and am completely happy with my awesome game system. PS3 :), Did i mention it plays Blu-Ray Movies too? :P
NG:Sigma is a great game made even better and prettier. And Plays Flawless.
If they say6 PS3 is so good, then why they say they're making NG2 for 360?
will sell very well for the PS3, Team Ninja WOULD BE RETARDED TO make NG2 only for xbox if it sells really well on PS3.
isn't that the same argument you clowns use when a dev announces a PS3 exclusive??
that argument works both ways.
Should be a fun game for ps3 owners.
Some of you guys act like the console war is already over.I've got news for ya,NEITHER of these consoles will break 30 million until they cost less then 200 bucks,and thats 2-3 years off.The winner of this war gets the Mario and GTA crowd.
Good, now all the critics and the haters can shut up finally (for the time being atleast).
lol well it might just be time exclusive as with NG was 1st on xbox right? and then properly will be coming to the ps3 later or maybe its just going to be exclusive...until then lets just relax:D
i doubt that NG2 wont make it to ps3 with all the positive press its giving it. oh btw when is this game out?
it's been finished for a week or two now. However they didn't bump up the release date despite having finished the game early. As stated by Tecmo previously the release dates are mid June [JP] and early July [US and EU]. I think the exact date stateside is July 3. I was hoping that because it's done we'd see it sooner. I'm not counting on it, but I'm still hoping they decide to release Sigma in late June instead [a week before it's scheduled release]...
meh its not that far away now, besides it gives me time to save up!
hmmm its either this or the darkness, i wonder what i should get. or even both of them if they get good feedback.
July 3 in UK it is anyways lol dont know abotu the rest of the world
"You'll be able to tell us whether you agree or disagree with Hayashi-san when the demo launches in a couple of weeks time (exact date yet to be confirmed)"
What exactly is meant by this? Does he mean a fully playable version? Because the demo exists already as we know...
Preordered the collector's...I hope they get it on time.
As for NG2, I'm guessing it's 360 bound due to what Itagaki said about sequels on 360, but wouldn't be surprised if it goes multiplat assuming Sigma does well, and I hope people do buy it.
i'm kind of torn betweeing getting this game or rainbow six... time to get a job i think :D
Can't wait to buy all 3
Seraphim he said in an interview last month, that people keep asking him if he had switched sides, and the fact is he hasn't, he's just been working on projects in secret and that he still mainly supports the 360. He also said that they were in the DOA and NG universe
if team ninja can make a great game for the PS3, that speaks volumes about their talent as developers, the funny thing is they would hear someone like you bashing the PS3 and tell you to STFU since you don't know what you are talking about.
Guess we'll have to see if it lives up to the hype. I think it might!
Team Ninja always makes a quality product. I really respect that, as too many developers these days don't care about perfect frame rates etc..
They just want it out on as many consoles as possible for the bottom line.
About Ps3 being more powerful. That really doesn't matter. The X-box was more powerful than the ps2 but that didn't stop the ps2 having a HUGE diverse game library. I don't think your going to see any clear 'winner'
this generation, but both consoles are not going anywhere.
These two competitors are behemoths!
behemoths! I tell ya!
Argue with the team ninja on this one.
Meaning 300k copies have left Tecmo's hands. $45 per game x 300k = 13,500,000.
Smells like success to me.
And you know what that means!
Multiplatform Ninja Gaiden 2 like hinted.
for the games runs at 6900 yen that equats to 65-66 bucks. in some places ninja gaiden was going for 7200 yen thats 69 bucks in the use so u should figure how much is going. it's just amazing
games is all the ps3 really needs. and i for one will be playing this game Saturday. thats friday for you all in the states.
if you all want to see if i'm true add me
SEVIREDgamer-ps3 game tag. and Daisuke is my japanese acount
where i went to 3 different malls and all the places that sell it at those malls were out of Both PS3s and Ninja gaiden sigma... it's been out since midnight over here in Japan... Tecmo is knows and is confident that NGS will sell... and this only speaks volumes.. about NG2 though i can gaurantee you that the 360 is the lead platform the ps3 version will probably be announced at this E3 but will prolly come out 6 months to a year after. that game will be sick... The demo is awesome and the game supports english. i'll have to go and get it this saturday because i really cant find it available anywere. especially because i have Ship duty on friday
NG2 is going multiplatform whether xbox fanattics like it or not
Should be interesting to see the sales for HW and this game at the end of the week.
He went on to explain that Sigma uses self-shading techniques and other advanced graphical effects in full 1080p resolution and still manages to maintain a solid 60 frames per second which, he claims, no other game in the current generation has managed. "That includes games on Xbox 360," Hayashi adds.
i just wonder, what games awaits us on ps3, when other developers will see, what amazing stuff they can achieve on ps3... =)
The Xbotch would probably blow up if it tried to run 1080P @ 60 FPS.