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Forza gets huge user base boost from Christmas

Turn 10 says that Forza Motorsport 3 saw a huge jump in users during Christmas.

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Wrathman2793d ago

not so flopza anymore.

i bought it yesterday.and for 1,im very impressed with it.and i cant help think that when polyphony got a look at it at last years e3,they went back to gt5 and improved things.which contributed to the extended delay.

Bungie2793d ago

nice to see more people jumping in

Definitive indeed

Major Kanimo2793d ago (Edited 2793d ago )

nothing but quailty from turn 10

Edit: @thereapersson, i cant say that turn 10 is a good dev?..does my comment hurt your feelings

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DelbertGrady2793d ago (Edited 2793d ago )

It gotten great review scores to boot, and apparently has an active user base. Or does that not count either?

What criterias do you look at for quality in a game?

thereapersson2793d ago (Edited 2793d ago )

Yep, you're absolutely correct! Thanks to the prowess of Xbox LIVE's connection strengths, there is virtually no lag in online races. The netcode in this game is rock-solid! ;-)

green2793d ago (Edited 2793d ago )

The game is a massive success over here in the UK and has remained in the top 10 charts for the past two months while some bigger titles have dropped off the top 20 entirely.

As for the game its self, its really great.The best thing about the game has to be the physics engine which is simply top notch.Another node has to go to the storefront, the user generated content you see over there from tunning setups,photos to decals made by the Forza 3 community is really breathtaking.Never have i played a racing game that is soo driven by the community. Kudos to Turn 10.

mikeslemonade2793d ago

You guys act like it's new that xbox 360 games sell good.

sakura20092793d ago (Edited 2792d ago )

a lot of people did rent the game during the holiday season

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Sez 2792d ago

have you been in a ps3 game thread. sonyfanboys always bring up MS or it's games. go look up GT5 time trail glitch. look how many time forza video's are posted or mentioned in that thread. matter of fact go to any thread about a ps3 game. see how many times MS or one of their games be mentioned in that thread.

The Maxx2792d ago

"again, sales =/= quality.

when will you guys learn?"

How about sales + Great reviews? Does that make a quality game?
The question is when will YOU ever learn.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam... (doesn't include Holiday sales yet)

http://www.metacritic.com/g... based on 87 reviews.

thereapersson2792d ago (Edited 2792d ago )

Yep, to experience true sim action, you need to utilize a driving wheel. Using a controller is nowhere near the intended way that the developers want you to experience their game.

I own a Logitech G25, BTW. Those Amazon gift cards really help bring down the cost...

I suppose you only made those comments because you don't own a racing wheel yourself?

@ Vega75

Your comment history means you have no possible excuse to complain about any trolling or Sony fanboy-related behavior. You are one of the worst 360 fanboys on this site, eager to proclaim "TEH SDF!!!" at any possible moment. Hypocrisy is your strongest attribute.

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boodybandit2792d ago (Edited 2792d ago )

Sure you can say what ever you want. That is the beauty of the internet and freedom of speech. However it does make you a tad ignorant to say that when you barely touched Forza 2 and you have never played Forza 3.

What is it with people saying butt hurt or did I hurt your feelings with opinions on gaming? Are you people serious? Maybe it is you yourselves that take other peoples opinions far too seriously and are lashing out with ignorant remarks like the one above as a source of retaliation for your own butt hurt feelings?

On topic:
I think Forza 3 is a very nice racer. It offers a lot of value for the price tag and it does a lot of things right but honestly, I'm just nit picking here, there are a lot of little things I wish they did differently. Hopefully Forza 4 will take care of those things.

Right now I am working on solid gold achievement pecking at the event list one race at a time. This is one long game and I got my new wheel (Fanatec 911 S) dialed in perfectly to my liking.

I love Christmas because it always adds new blood to games to play against. MW2 was like noobfest on the 25th. It was so easy to pad stats by tearing up the new players. I almost felt a little dirty / guilty doing so.

I haven't played Forza 3 online much recently (still piecing together my racing pod) so I didn't get a chance to play against the new blood, yet. :) By the time I get my pod set those guys wont be new blood any more :( but I'm working on finishing it right now.

Edit: Anyone that is a big fan of Forza 3 owe it to yourself to purchase a Fanatec 911 S. It is truly an amazing wheel and it adds a whole new dimension to the game that you will never get with a game controller.

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baum2792d ago

Sorry, sales don't dictate quality, and neither do reviews. It's obvious that reviewers get "royalties" from scores when generic games like halo, modern warfare and gears get so many free passes. Quality is subjective

One thing is certain, games on xbox sell because a significant part of its fanbase pays too much attention to review scores and to sales. It's funny because they don't realize that they are producing a self-fullfilling prophecy,I.e. It's good if it sells, therefore they are making it good (in their little minds)

DARK WITNESS2792d ago

^^ lol.... keep telling yourself that...

ABizzel12792d ago

Forza is a good game (check my review out), but let's be real, Forza 3 was on sale during most of it's release as low as $35 on Black Friday, and for $40 almost every other week, so it's going to sell well being $20 off.

IdleLeeSiuLung2792d ago

So was plenty of games! Many of them big games like Assassin's Creed 2 and Dragon Age and many others that despite the sale didn't do to well.

So what is your point?

SilentNegotiator2792d ago

LOL

Anyway, glad to see a good game selling.

u got owned2792d ago

Good to see great games doing well.

bioshock12212792d ago

Yes I agree I seriously think the reason Gran Turismo 5 was delayed was because of Forza 3. I mean remember last year when apparantly GT5 was going to be released in 09 and even the guy who makes gran turismo 5 said it was done and they could release it anytime they want but its up to sony to decide when. But then Forza 3 was announced and they got quiet all of a sudden. So yeah most likely sony got scared of forza 3 and delayed it so they can make it better.

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siyrobbo2792d ago

seems to me that it doesnt mean 1 new sale per second but 1 new user per second, probably people who opened there forza for christmas

ABizzel12792d ago (Edited 2792d ago )

My point being that's why they all sold as well as they did. $20 off helped push people who normally would wait for the game, to get it instantly. And MS did this intentionally with almost all of their exclusives ODST, Forza, Left 4 Dead 2 were all $35 - $40 most of November and December along with multiplats. Whether this was a move to garner more 360 console sales or to try and give the gaming industry a boost since numbers were headed for a decline overall this year is unknown, but I'm sure both hold some weight to them.

@ 1.22

That was ignorant. And even if it was true, based off your comment then GT5 will be better than Forza 3, when it comes out. Maybe Turn 10 should have done the same thing and Forza physics would have been perfect.

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The Maxx2792d ago (Edited 2792d ago )

Several months...discounted to $19.99?

Forza 3 came out at the end of October...thats a couple of months ago not several, and i have yet to see a new copy of Forza 3 for $19.99. Do you have any links that show this? Or are we to take your lies as truth?

Bargin bin...at Toys r Us....Are we talking about Forza 3 or Forza? no link, no proof just your history of biased comments, and we are to take you seriously?

@Maddens Raiders
Just like LBP, Resistance 1 and 2, KZ2, Uncharted 2....broken record. But i guess if you say the same thing for every game, sooner or later you will be right.

How about we not all bring in speculatory sales BS for games not yet released and just focus on the topic at hand which is Turn 10 has now sold over 2 million copies of Forza 3 in only a couple of months. Good job Turn 10 for a genre over saturated with racers.

@ ABizzel1 You mean like these physics? http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

Major_Tom2792d ago (Edited 2792d ago )

For more than a month when I was working at Toys R Us we had Forza in the bargain bin section because no one bought it at all.

And remember to relax, these are video games, not your dire virginity.

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we won2792d ago

I knew a lot of people purchased this game recently because all of a sudden a ton of people on my friends list started playing Forza 3 all at once.

Again lol at *thereapersson* effort, give it up man.

ReviewsArePolitics2792d ago

"^^ lol.... keep telling yourself that... "

You know, where the offended poster has nothing to say so he attempts to make a witty retort and then fails because he didn't prove anyone wrong.

snp2792d ago (Edited 2792d ago )

I knew a lot of people purchased this game recently because all of a sudden a ton of people on my friends list started playing Forza 3 all at once.
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Mind you - and this applies to all games on all systems - there's this little thing called 'Christmas Day'. A game that's been sitting in the cupboard wrapped up for 4-6 weeks wasn't necessarily 'just sold recently!' simply because it was 'just opened/registered online'.

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1.11
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam... (doesn't include Holiday sales yet)
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Forza may well have had a nice uptick in sales, but _never_ use Vgchartz to prove a point. They're woefully off more than half the time - as is discussed every time they make a blunder, then promptly forgotten about. Hell, just on this game they've had to 'readjust' their numbers (downwards in this case) numerous times already. I believe when Microsoft was announcing the game had sold '1 million', Vgchartz on numbers still without two weeks extra sales up till Microsofts announcement, had the game at >1.5 million (meaning adding those extra weeks in it's likely they were overestimating by as much as 700-900k).

The Maxx2792d ago (Edited 2792d ago )

I agree that VG chartz may not be the most accurate but if you can find a better online source to use i would be more than happy to use it.

"Mind you - and this applies to all games on all systems - there's this little thing called 'Christmas Day'. A game that's been sitting in the cupboard wrapped up for 4-6 weeks wasn't necessarily 'just sold recently!' simply because it was 'just opened/registered online'."

Stats show that majority of holiday shoppers don't buy Christmas gifts way before Christmas but are more inclined to do their shopping closer to the actual date. 75% of shoppers say they will do last minute shopping and 32% say that they plan to do all their shopping late. So i don't see too many game purchases done weeks before Christmas like your 4-6 week reference but rather closer to the dates 22nd - 24th.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stor...

snp2792d ago (Edited 2792d ago )

Stats show that majority of holiday shoppers don't buy Christmas gifts way before Christmas but are more inclined to do their shopping closer to the actual date. 75% of shoppers say they will do last minute shopping and 32% say that they plan to do all their shopping late. So i don't see too many game purchases done weeks before Christmas like your 4-6 week reference but rather closer to the dates 22nd - 24th.

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75% of shoppers say they will do "some" christmas shopping late. (of the "last minute" type). I'll presume leaving that "some" out was an accidental error, as it pretty significantly changes the complexion of that statement. (Hell, i did 'some' Christmas shopping right up until Christmas eve - but my games purchases came in early November when i caught them on sale at good prices).

"32% say that they plan to do all their shopping late." So more than two thirds buy early in other words. How early is anyone's guess. Hell, 'late' isn't even defined in this survey (one week out, two weeks out, one day out?) - it's all pretty vague and subjective (and unnecessary really when there's charts which already trace 'exactly' when Christmas related upturns in sales begin).

My '4-6 weeks' is based on the the time when a noticeable uptick in sales begins (not starts and ends, but begins) - traceable in video games in any number of yearly charts (or dvd sales charts, or any number of others). It's actually fairly conservative; most charts show the increase starting early November. To be sure the three single biggest days, or biggest three day block, may well be 22-24, but suggesting this is the largest part of a couple of months Christmas sales (season) as a whole. Nup, not by a long shot.

Major Kanimo2792d ago

@that random guy who says iv never touch forza iv beating forza 1 fully took me 2 months got to lvl 35 in forza 2 and since i have a job now i have only played forza 3 at friends and the demo i kno turn 10's devoloping skills as i have seen release game after game that i have enjoyed to so dont tell me i dont kno a thing or two about turn 10..

DARK WITNESS2792d ago (Edited 2792d ago )

@ ReviewsArePolitics

your right i really don't have much to say to that because the offending post is based on such a twisted thought process you know the person posting would not be worth arguing with.

I don't need to prove anything with regarding to what he was trying to propose because it's the same twisted logic thats been played over and over and there have been enough arguments against it that if the person truly wanted to see things objectively they would already know how wrong they are. lets just apply the same logic to a different argument.

sales don't = quality, thats right ya, and it must be true... so i guess that means the ps2's high sales means it must have been lacking in quality. Isn't GT one of the biggest selling games ever... but sales don't = quality to i guess forza > GT because...

the only time sales does not = quality is when it's relating to a 360 game or 360 related sales, but since you fanboys are always right then the same principal must apply to all those record breaking ps sales. it must have all been hype and media reviews. the ps brand has not really delivered any quality gaming experience, if it had it would have sold less because less sales = higher quality right ?

The Maxx2791d ago (Edited 2791d ago )

Absolutely great post. +bubbles to you.

Too bad it will fall on deaf ears.

@snp - do you have a source with those stats to support your theory?