The epic battle between the GBA and the PS3 continues with the GBA leading slightly for the week. Sony better hope these numbers are off as 60k PS3's in a month is not too hot. Wii:PS3 = 6:1 and 360:PS3 = 4:1.
The PS3 is getting crushed.
Lets make a bet on how many disagrees you get i say ummm 5
Sorry nothin against you but thats the way of the....site?
You're right man but I just call it like I see it. This place cracks me up sometimes.
The battle started, but only a portion of Sony's warriors are there.
Wait till the Elves and all of Rohan shows up!
BTW...the 360 wasn't selling that well this early into its life-cycle. I think the PS3 shows a bit more promise based on that fact.
The wii will die out, the 360 won't be as popular...even though you guys have hyped it to NO END!!! The PS3 will gain...unless bad press tears it down...which is what's been happening...YA GAYS.
oh, and halo sux...
I'm just reading the numbers.
the ps3 only needs one thing to be successful... and that's games. blockbuster games that dont have "4" at the end of them. new ip. something that you can't get on 360 or pc that is worth the extra $200 on it's own. well, that and a real online community, with standard (included) headseats and real uniformity between games.
sony put themselves in the position to have to prove ps3's worth when they slapped a $600 price tag on it. so far they've failed miserably, and the numbers show it.
Thats not correct. The 360 for the first few months was impossible to find and sold out as soon as they hit the shelves. That is the reason they didn't sell as many as they could have because of supply constraints. So your arguement comparing to the PS3 is not valid imo
It took them over a year to finally beat 1 monthly sale of the PS2 ROFL!!!!!!!!!! BUT NOT the overall sale of the PS2. Because the overall sale of the PS2 blows X Box AND X Box 360 sales off the face of the earth!
I think the numbers are off. It only shows that sony sold 1,470,510 total PS3's. Sony has sold around 3.4 million so far and shipped 5.5 million.
I think the chart is for America only.
Like the title says, those are only American numbers.
Do you use special glasses, or something? Where does it say "American numbers only" in the title?
I was referring to the N4G title, and noT the source link title. Maybe you should have been more specific.
@wolfgang....This site does not allow you to agree on your own comment stupid.
See where is says "American Chart for Week Ending 03rd June 2007", Bill?
EDIT: This is hilarious, some idiot disagrees and it says so right there on the top of the page.
The guy click "agree" on his own comment and disagree on yours (probably even before reading your reply), he thinks nobody will figure it out.
Ha ha ha so you DO try to agree on your own comments, how pathetic :)
-I was referring to the N4G title, and noT the source link title. Maybe you should have been more specific.-
You dumb retard, you didnt read the news before commenting.
And yes you are pathetic because you try to agree on your own comments.
How does GBA do it! 360 and Wii certainly are duken it out on 2 fronts ^^ kind of fun to watch. Hardware sales only 30k difference(Wii sold more) software sales only 20k difference(360 sold more).
It's pretty crazy if you add up the Wii and DS that Nintendo basically is a little over 50% of the weekly sales!
edit: okay the software is actually really off more like a 110k difference(still 360 sold more) cuz Wii Sports is a pack in! Why is it on the list?
thats American chart only
please create a section on the site for financials. then all of the stockholders on the site can have a place to put threads like this and battle about how much money they are making off of these console sales.
it dont look like a worldwide chart
Because, like the title says, this is "American Chart for Week Ending 03rd June 2007"
You have to go down to #16 to find a PS3 title, and its the only PS3 game in the top 30!
Remember folks, software attach rates are how gaming systems make up their losses on the console itself, and Sony is in a lot of deep dirt when it comes to the PS3. PS2 on the other hand, well its still making them money hand over fist, so at least the company is still solvent.
The Wii is selling all of those consoles but people only buy the games that have Mario in the title.
Is the wii still having problems suppling demands or the numbers seem to be coming down?
It's obvious that the PS3 will hit record lows this month... again...
Xbox 360 51,035
I smell a flame war...
Really is this anything NEW? The wii on top, then Xbox 360 and PS3 last for Next-Gen machines..
When the Wii becomes number 3 in units selling, then we know something has shifted, besides pigs flying.
The PS3, will have more good games out to make a push.
Xbox360 will have even more good games as well, to over take the Wii.
The Wii, well finally the hype slows down.
Until then, I don't see much changing, of course a Price-cut could also mix-up what I just speculated.
My PS3 is only beaing used for blueray at this time. If I see anymore fall of man I will go crazy. So I'm just waiting for some games.
Now we know why BLU-RAY has been having record sales, there are no games!!! I counted about 2 on the list. The sad part is if you combine the sales of the PS2 and PS3 they barely beat the Xbox360.
I am tossing the gas on.
LOLZ PS3 GOING TO HAVE THE WORSE MONTH EVAR DREAMCAST 2 LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Finally the king (PS2) is stepping down.
Hahahaaaa Sony, most pathetic sales EVER
Console Weekly Total
360 - 61,209 6,338,532
GBA - 15,421 40,550,798
PS3 - 15,031 1,470,510
And still those fandroids say: "Wait untill, just wait... wait, wait wait"
Like I said a year ago: 'This is Waiting!'
And then the softwaresales, are maybe even more important for developers to determine their exclusive strategy on:
Software Totals: Console Weekly
360 - 502,552
PSP - 121,522
PS3 - 108,320
My God. It really is double as pathetic as I thought. The 360 sells 5 times as much games there then the PS3.
Can you imagine what developers like Konami and Square Enix will think? "Damn, if we take MGS4 and FFXIII to the 360, we will sell 5 times as much copies. Our profits will be 5 times as high. We are companies with shareholders, what would they say?"
"Can you imagine what developers like Konami and Square Enix will think? "Damn, if we take MGS4 and FFXIII to the 360, we will sell 5 times as much copies. Our profits will be 5 times as high. We are companies with shareholders, what would they say?"
You've hit the nail on the head Mart...it's all about money. The PS3 costs more to develop for AND it's got a smaller fanbase...not very attractive to developers. Designing games isn't art, it's business.
Sony is becoming a bigger joke everyday, I may of wasted £400, and i'm not happy, I want games and the 360 has that, the ps3 has sh!t... FACT
For Sony that is; Bioshock, Blue Dragon, PGR4,GTA4/Assassin's Creed(though those two will be on the PS3 as well, it's obvious which system it will sell on the most), and THE MOST obvious of them all... Halo3(despite mixed reviews about the multiplayer beta, seriously folks, it's all about the single player I'm interested in) :D
the mart makes intelligent comments that makes sense good 4 u marty boy
These stats are nothing but the irrefutable truth! How can any fanboy say anything - the numbers simply don't lie. Fact - the PS3 doesn't have any "system selling" software (Sony even admits it themselves)! I have a PS3 and love it but, it's collecting dust at the moment and anyone that tells you different either doesn't have a 360 or is a liar. Fact - the 360 has way more of a quality software selection and a lower price point. Fact - PS3 sales have been going down since it's launch. I'm not a fanboy, I love all 3 systems - just stating the facts. I actually feel really bad for Sony:( I really hope they can turn things around because I'm starting to feel like my PS3 is simply my blue-ray player and it shouldn't be like that!!
not much, not much.
but well, no games - no sales. I mean, no AAA titles, no AAA sales. :)
anyway, nothing really interesting, the most interesting part will be only in autumn, when many games will be released. The only excuse for ps3 will be left - price. =) But if there will be a price cut..
after several month we will know pretty sure how things will go on. :)
Well Crazy, lets talk then about price.
What do you think MS is going to do this fall or maybe just after Halo 3 sales have peaked? Well???
Right. Lower the 360 prices. Because in the 2nd year of a console, prices drop, hardware gets cheaper to produce.
360 Core: 199 Euro
360 Premium: 299 Euro
360 Elite: 379 Euro
The PS3 won't get any cheaper then 499. Because Sony already is taking big losses on each unit sold.
Thus, the situation gets only worse for Sony. MS is on the sweet 200 Euro/Dollar spot with the Core, close to it with the Premium and PS3 is still far, far off.
So I have no idea why you think a price cut will do Sony good. It will only slaughter it even harder.
Plus, you also say still wait untill fall. Like someone says below, lets make an agreement.
If the PS3 doesn't pick up big time in fall, we can all say the PS3 is a failure, allright? Because the defense that we have to wait, how long will that exactly be?
When in fall games like Lair will dissapoint, what then. Wait until spring 2008 for MGS4 and FFXIII? That'll come to the 360 also?
But you do have great points, I can now admit the ps3 is failure, i wasted my money, I will be buying the 360 elite in november, when it comes out in the u.k. And hopefully the hardware is as good as the games. HOPEFULLY.
Unlike Sega Dreamcast... Sony can lose money on PS3 for years with out dropping out of the market, just the way the old Xbox did. So if there really is all this untapped programming power that the system has locked away. Then 10 years of support sounds like a good idea. I do worry how long 3rd parties are willing to stand by while other system fly off the shelf. I also wonder how many 3rd parties have already had a sit down meeting and said.
"lets wait into after the holidays, and if sales don't pick up then get Nintendo and Microsoft on the line"<----pretend quote.
So If like it or not. Fact is this Christmas will be either a big turning point for PS3 or a big failing point for PS3. We will have to wait and see.
NOW GIMMY A BUBBLE!
Hi Marty Boy.... SExy
"Right. Lower the 360 prices. Because in the 2nd year of a console, prices drop, hardware gets cheaper to produce."
possible, but they may not drop price, or drop only on 50$. =)
since 2001 M$ Gaming Devision had only loosing money, not making. ^^FACT.
"The PS3 won't get any cheaper then 499. Because Sony already is taking big losses on each unit sold."
Can you prove that? NO. ^^FACT.
Why? because there were not official statements, how much sony losing money on each ps3. Only some analitics talks, but their talks NOT = facts. ^^FACT.
Sony Gamign Devision in q3 and q4 didn`t make a profit(that`s why we assume, that sony was loosing money on ps3). ^^FACT
But noone knows do sony still losing money on ps3. ^^FACT.
"If the PS3 doesn't pick up big time in fall, we can all say the PS3 is a failure, allright? Because the defense that we have to wait, how long will that exactly be?"
IF, then - failure like GC and xbox, indeed. =)
But we will have to wait for that. :)
"When in fall games like Lair will dissapoint, what then. Wait until spring 2008 for MGS4 and FFXIII? That'll come to the 360 also?"
You have NO facts and can`t prove that. ^^FACT.
TheMART has a good point I think.
I know you Sony fans hate it when anyone says anything negative about your console. But good lord the PS3 can't hold out forever with such dismal hardware AND software sales. I mean, how long does Sony and the dev's think that everyones going to wait for games?
The truth is most people are already going to get a 360 instead.
EDIT: OK....LAST CHANCE SONY FANS....AUTUMN.....IF Sony's sales dont pick up, Sony is dead. Don't deny it fanboys. If nothing is delivered by this fall there is NO WAY this console is going to even compete with the 360.<<<<That isn't good though, I'm all for competetion....but you have to blame Sony for FUking up this generation.
I agree with you guys Sony s backed into a corner right now i price cut would definitely help but it throws them off of their game plan. They are shooting for a 10 year life cycle and i bet they werent factoring in that they would need to drop the price this early, price cut now means lower profits later.
Secondly they wanna make sure that if they do a price cut consumers don't look at it as a sign of weakness considering it hasnt even been a year yet..man i would hate to be the guy whos gotta make these decisions
Damit mart i put a lot of effort into my flameware then you come and one up me
LOL! This dudes hilarious
Woot i have a fan my fragile ego and self esteem is solidified a little more!
I believe Sony has no option but to drop their price on the PS3. Showing weakness or not, they can't really do any worse than they are now.
How or why do they consider "Wii Sports" in the software sales? It's bundled in with the Wii after all. It just seems shady to me that they list it as "software sales" when in reality there is nobody actually buying "Wii Sports", you just buy the console and get it. So that 3+ million number makes it look like some super strong title but again...ANYONE who buys the Wii gets it whether they want it or not.
Am I missing something here? Am I the only one that finds that a tad bogus?
yeah I mentioned that in my post. It is a bit odd to be on the list in American sales but they probobly have it on becuase it is being sold in the other territories so they must of never made a code or something on it to leave it out of US sales. maybe....
it's a 10 dollar game the comes with a controller, by that logic they should include VC and arcade games, like Hexic, which would be 61k.
It's time for PS3 owners to check out the newest releases on Blu ray.
Guess I'm gonna have to go order a blu-ray movie then :(((((
In the mean time.... anyone up for Gears of War! :D
Thats now what? two Sony Playstation consoles in the Xbox's rearview.
I think that the sales problem of the PS3 is the motive of the delay of the AAA titles like MGS4 and FFXIII. Also they are tired of waiting...
the PS3 IS GOD and more powerful then the sun it self.. And its waiting.... waiting ever so slow to sneak up on the 360 and sale 25million systems when one more game comes out because its so l33t and better in every way possible!! DON't DENY THE GREATNESS!!!
Aaahh just kidding don't hate me people i kid i kid!! i love all systems!
Kind of sad but that would be because the during the same day (Today):
- My PS3 died on me and now I have to hope Sony's customer service is good
- I saw thoses numbers. And its quite hard to twist them in a positive light when you think best ps3 software sale (MLB) are 1/9 of best of either best wii software sale (MP8) or 360 software (Forza)
Best of luck on getting that fixed! don't worry you got a couple months before some games come out ;) j/k good luck man!
Arent these just estimates, didnt know the NPD officially disclosed the console sale numbers
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I just read all your posts and the common perception is that all Sony fans are ready to put up the white flag in defeat. Could this be true??? Is this the final blow???
C'man Sony fans: come defend your system!!!! This site would not be nearly as fun having to debate with Wii owners. Could you imagine???
"The cell is better!!" "Just wait for some games!" "PS3 is better then Xbox because i said so" Am i forgetting any good ones? oh wait "Just wait till Bluray sales more!" but wait isn't this a game console?
Ahh don't ask them to come i like a site with people looking at facts over fanboy disorder.
One phrase sums it up: XNA Toolkit.
That's right. The XNA Toolkit was the foundation that Microsoft positioned as its 'secret weapon' for the next generation console wars.
I wrote about it---and made my predictions, back in Nov. '05.
"Xbox 360 Next Generation Console Wars"
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It's the ease of development coupled with the ability to develop for the Xbox 360 and PC ---SIMULTANEOUSLY--- that makes the 360 so popular with developers.
I never play games on any of my PCs. They are for 'work only.' And, just as I only play games on consoles, I know there are many who only play games on PCs.
It is the ability to develop for two platforms (360 & PC) without the need for seperate development teams, that makes developing for the 360 so financialy attractive to game developers.
This is why so many games are developed on the 360 first and then ported to the PS3---and why there are more than a few games that are developed for the 360 & PC only.
The XNA Toolkit makes it all possible.
Could it be that this is the least disputed comments section in N4G ever? Probably not, but still, 51 posts and almost all of them re-iterating the same point and almost unanimously agreeing that the PS3 may well be what many have been predicting for a long time is impressive. I think public opinion is slowly starting to sway very unfavourably for Sony's console, and this swaying may beome ever more accelerated as Christmas approaches, especially when even then it's flagship titles are still lost somewhere on the horizon (MGS, FF). I am a proud owner of all 3 consoles (not so proud of the Wii, I've been playing Lylat Wars more than anything else) so I don't want to see any of them fail, but all I can say is that Lair and Haze better be bloody amazing...
And it's true what is said about the Dev kits above. It doesn't matter if the PS3 has umpteen billion times more power than the 360, if it takes them 6 months to get excellent performance out of the 360 for an engine and takes a year or more to get the same performance out of the PS3, whose install base is lower and seems to be stigmatised with slow software sales, why would you bother? Especially with next gen development, where now more than ever, TIME IS MONEY. It's just common business sense.
Developers don't care about brand loyalty, they care about profitability. Period. Now if Sony let developers charge more than $60 for their games, say $70-$80, PS3 owners would be rolling in exclusives. But we all know the consumer won't let that happen. Sony's in a real bind.