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Microsoft loses patent appeal; Word and Office to be barred from sale starting January 11

It's getting closer and closer to check-writing time for Steve Ballmer, as the U.S. Court of Appeal for the Federal Circuit has just upheld a decision that would see Microsoft Word and Office banned from sale starting January 11.

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reintype2911d ago (Edited 2911d ago )

Word and Office are one of the gears that makes the MS engine run, without it MS would lose much of its clout.

It would certainly affect their finances as well as their stocks, because losing 2 of your profitable products, would not endear you to your investors.

I think MS would certainly settle this out of court, but it would be for a godly sum.

-Alpha2911d ago

That sounds terrible for MS.

What does this entail though? Forgive me but I'm not too familiar with the consequences. Does it mean Apple can start using it? Does it MS doesn't own it anymore?

mrv3212911d ago

I think it means no one can use it... or profit from it.

Microsoft will now have to re-disgn stuff or remove features.

Honestly I doubt this will have too much of an effect on the consumer to be honest.

And as a side note: Open Office FTW!

rodeoo2911d ago (Edited 2911d ago )

All this means is that Microsoft will wright a big check to the patent holder and will be free to do what it wants with word and office. this is a non issue

Blaze9292911d ago (Edited 2911d ago )

99% of the united states population uses Microsoft Word for school, business and much more. I bet they are gonna use MS word to type up this court document >_>

So what will be used in the future? Everyone isnt gonna be running 2007 forever and just like the windows OS, they aren't just gonna jump ship to Open Office or Google Docs (witch both are not so great). Sure Microsoft shouldnt have stole whatever it was they stole but come on, really...

snipermk02911d ago

Guess you can't plagiarize/copy people and expect to get away with it all the time.

reintype2911d ago (Edited 2911d ago )

Yeah it could be a non-issue, but if I were the patent-holder I would certainly wait for Microsoft's Investors Meeting, before even thinking of settling it with MS. You can be sure it would drive the price up, specially if the rumors of certain higher-ups getting the axe proves true.

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IdleLeeSiuLung2911d ago

You end up infringing on someone elses patent, since invariably there aren't too many sensible ways to do something and if the patent is written broad enough.... well there is your answer.

Either way, as indicated in the article. MS is preparing another version without the infringing algorithm and problem is solved! Earth continues to orbit around the sun.

Budg3tG4m3r2911d ago

Anyway I don't thnk this will be over anytime soon and I agree rodeoo this is a non issue.

justpassinggas2911d ago (Edited 2911d ago )

I love my PS3 just like the next guy but all of you saying that MS deserves it for this are utter and damned fools.

Microsoft Word is essential. No other word processor is as good, as comprehensive, and as ubiquitous as MS Word. Word and Powerpoint are the only things, besides Windows, that I like from MS. You can fault Microsoft hardware all you want. You can attack Microsoft for its anti-competitive nature when it comes to web browsers and the like. But to actually attack Microsoft over a product that is actually good, does what it is meant for perfectly, and has a long history is being absurd and shows either your naivete or your fanboyism.

All of you saying that the alternatives are better: if they are better, why aren't they as widely adopted, both among professionals and casuals? Most students in high schools and universities use Word and Powerpoint (and Adobe PDF), despite having Open Office as an option.

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SilentNegotiator2911d ago

LOL, why not? It's easy to use and does pretty much everything.

sikbeta2911d ago (Edited 2911d ago )

It's not a big deal, I'm using OpenOffice right now and I don't notice any HUGE difference, so nobody will die if don't use Word or Office

Nihilism2911d ago

It's a complete non issue, they are releasing a version that handles XML differently, everything else within it is the same, it just may not support one of the hundreds of file types, way to overstate it...

pixelsword2911d ago (Edited 2911d ago )

When they bring people to court around the world for stealing games and their OS from them, that is fair and just and they deserve the money from those thieves, so now they were caught stealing, so they need to pay too.

I don't care how "essential" it is for them, they stole from a guy, and a poor guy at that; so they need to pay as well, end of discussion.

gaffyh2910d ago

From what I read on another site, MS is going to be reprogramming the code and releasing a different version of office that doesn't use the patented stuff. But they have to pay out $290 million to i4i in compensation.

Viper72910d ago

Well most people still prefer office 2003 over the new 2007 which basicly runs by the sentence "Fix and break whats not broken" Seriously the 2007 interface of word is retarded and there seems to be no option what so ever to "use the old interface"

Open office all the way, good familiar interface and most features that matter are already supported. Not to mention it supports wider array of formats and is not restricted by microsofts common retardness of wanting to create/sustain/keep monopoly.

oh before all the fanboy crap, this article has nothing to do with games or consoles. Microsoft game section is doing pretty well these days so I seriously doubt this will any way affect the "quality" of their upcoming hardware or games software.

Anon19742910d ago (Edited 2910d ago )

I agree. I hate Office 2007. I'm forced to use it because everyone else has switched over and it doesn't seem to matter what it is, everything is saved in that new "docx" format, or the excel and powerpoint equivalents.

However, you stated "Microsoft game section is doing pretty well these days."

Is it really? Last I looked at Microsoft's financials, 360 sales had hit a 2 year low a quarter ago and this last quarter also showed year on year declines. Also, consider that the only thing that's keeping the cost of the 360 warranty debacle off the books is clever accounting. Microsoft wrote off 2 billion to cover the warranty and now it suddenly looks like the Entertainment division is making a profit but nothing could be further from the truth. That 2 billion they wrote off is ongoing, and sapping revenue as we speak. The reason that the Entertainment Division isn't in the red ever single quarter is due to this clever bit of accounting that effectively keeps the warranty costs off the books.

Investors aren't fooled by "Yeah, we have to write off billions in the next couple of years, so we'll just claim it on our books now" suddenly followed by "Hey! Lookey! We just made $100 million!" We know Microsoft Entertainment is still struggling under the weight of that repair bill.

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Ninji2911d ago

Now they need to ban the 360 for setting homes on fire.

Elven62911d ago

How is this great news? I assume you are all for patent trolling until your company of choice will be hit by it?

BreakNeckSpeed2911d ago (Edited 2911d ago )

Only a delusional idiot would say something like that. I was going to buy office 2010 for college next year... Damn!

PirateThom2911d ago

Why?

Open Office is free...

Oner2911d ago (Edited 2911d ago )

Elven6 your opinion is incorrect & misinformed ~

"Just to be clear on this, i4i ****isn't a patent troll**** -- it's a a 30 person database design company that shipped one of the first XML plugins for Office and was actually responsible for revamping the entire USPTO database around XML to make it compatible with Word back in 2000. What's more, the patents involved here don't cover XML itself, but rather the specific algorithms used to read and write custom XML -- so OpenOffice users can breathe easy, as i4i has said the suite doesn't infringe. Existing Office users should also be fine, as only future sales of Word are affected by the ruling, not any already-sold products."

WildArmed2910d ago

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this is bad.
I love MS office, esp. excel n word.
I hope someting turns up bcoz Computers wont be the same without it.

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deshon092911d ago

this could be a huge blow for ms

Omega Zues2911d ago

I had no idea the court actually went through with this. Yeah this is a major issue for MS but knowing them, settling out of court is the next step since they of course appealed it so now its left to go to the Supreme Court. But if they cant settle out of court and they lose in the next round then ya...thats gonna be a issue for MS...big time.

Somnipotent2911d ago

if it's one thing they did somewhat well it was it's office system...

Consoldtobots2911d ago (Edited 2911d ago )

it seems most of their successful products have been stolen from someone else, what a sad software company.