So, the format war between Blu-ray and HD DVD is in full swing, with each side issuing almost weekly statements claiming that the tide has turned its way.
Which side is really out in front? Neither one.
In the end their has to be one winner as when people buy their new HDTVs they will want to watch HD movies on them. Digital distrubution of movies won't take off for at least another 10-15 years and even with that it still won't takeover as the only way to get movies. I myself would rather have a hard copy of a cd/movie where I can easily create duplicates if need be.
I am sure there are many people who would prefer the same. Also you have to factor in that not everyone has access to download music and movies. Another thing is who seriously wants to download 25-50gb movie files?
By the time Blu-ray has its run Digital Distribution will take place, there's a good chance both can co exist. After all, the rest of the world has to catch up with Network connections. Its silly to believe Digital Distribution will take place with in the next 4 years. The US needs fiber optic backbone. Companies like apple, Sony, Intel, HP need to start delivering the home servers to redistribute those movies through the home and from there to the Televisions.
Blu-ray will reign because its not just for movies.
digital distribution of hd movies in 10-15 years? i just downloaded and watched an hd movie on my 360 a few days ago. wow time flies!
I can't wait til the next year or two when one article gives the conclusion of this format war. But until then, i can't help but feel these kind of format war articles will continue to outnumber the game articles.
Digital Distribution will take over.
10 to 15 years is a long time to be the dominate supplier of HD material don't ya think, considering Sony plans to have the PS3 out for 8 to 10 years?
I still believe it is up in the air though.
While I have bought 8 BR movies (because of the PS3), I am not willing to buy a BR player at the moment. (I know its kinda strange)
Thats why I still say its up in the air.
HD TIVO FTW!
10 to 15 years????? Please it will be far before that
i prefer to purchase movies, display it on my shelf, box and all. Yeah its nice to be able to download movies on xblm. but if its something i enjoyed, or know i would I would rather purchase it and have a hard copy. Something Similar to me, with people that prefer to listen to music on LPs. Or all the movie lovers, Like myself, that would rather watch in on 35mm Reel to reel. digital distribution maybe the way. And i am aware that there is numerous sights legal and not that will allow me to downloan. but i would rather not.
doesn't count the Playstation 3 as a Blu-ray player, despite the fact that it's the best one on the market; totally throws their credibility out the window.
Without games to play I guess it is easy to mistake the PS3 for a Blu-ray player rather than a game console, seeing how you can do next to nothing with it but watch movies. But honestly, you don't consider your PC with DVD a DVD player do you? lol!
I actually do call my PC a DVD player. Why? Because it's states it right there on the player where it reads "DVD-Player". It's great that the PS3 has a Blu-ray drive, it's not something negative that people like you are trying portray to others.
At least someone with a PS3 can watch some HD movies in a decent way.
Well I don't call my car a seat just 'cos there is one in it. Or my mobile phone a camera just 'cos it can take pictures. Or maybe I am mistaken and you really can find a PS3 under the Blu-ray players section in an electronics store ha!
Then what do you do with your car seat? Stand on it. Dude, you don't have to use your camera to take pictures or your PC to play DVD. But you can if you want. So if you use your PC to play DVD than it's also a DVD player. And if that camer on your phone takes pictures than it's also a camera. Hell even your car seat, it's a seat because you sit on it.
The PS3 can play Blu-ray so it's ALSO a Blu-ray player. It's pretty obvious.
I will always go buy my movies from the store and my games I dont know about u guys...but I like to own it in my hand..take it to a friends house not if it gets magically deteted ant tey dont wanna give it to me free again..and i dont want the goverment or movie compnies to know wat i buy
I see solid state, digital distribution and wireless streaming content taking over. Discs will always be around.
sheesh... people are not ready for digital distribution. WHo is this person? Have they ever heard of baby boomers? The aging population in this country will demand a disc... people forget that the age of this country is growing. Digital distribution will be here in a few years, and it may be the next next 'format' but it wont effect this wave of new formats. Digital distribution... im 23 and I still want a disc.
The average gamer is around 18-25 yo not really baby boomers huh? Some baby boomers won't adopt cell phones for the rest of their lives. Newer technologies will be used by younger and younger people as time goes on.
What do you mean by "Digital Distribution will be here in a few years"? Its already here and the Xbox Live Video Marketplace is a prime example. Digital Distribution will grow to become the easiest to use and best way to watch movies and play games.
Also, new format? There isn't going to be a format change there will only be a change in the delivery system that brings you the media(aka format medium). DVDs are going out of style as they are to fragile and unreliable to go on as a leading format medium and things such as flash drives and home servers will grow to replace them.
BTW I meant before and by 10-15 years not that it will take 15 years. Both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray will be successful but whichever wins will instantly be beaten months to years later by digital distribution. Even Sony admits to this although they have much support for Blu-Ray. The next-generation will require flexibility and speed that a disc drive or any disc can deliver like a flash drive/home server can.
Actually the average gamer age is 30.
I think about 25% would want to buy their media via digital distribution.
Think of this. There are tons of people out there who has both a PS3 and an Internet connection, yet their have not plugged their PS3 into the Internet. The world needs at least 10 years before hard media can be taken away.
while digital distribution sounds interesting we are FARRRRR from being there, while things keep growing in size broad band hasent catchup us all I probably know more people that have dial up or dont even have internet that people that have braod band, its kind of funny to learn how many people dont have it even in first world countries like the US, you can even say "even in this modern times" the problem is that for DD we need cheaper and faster broad bands that reach a massive market and has yet to happen
I have no doubt it will happen, but I think it will be a smaller niche market then what HD DVD and Blu Ray is right now and it is a good 5 years out atleast. Not to mention that the equipment will not be that much cheaper then a current HD or BR player. Heck even my Direct TV HDR (HR20) was $300 and the current HD feeds still do not look as good as either HD or BR. The feeds are still to compressed.
I will not say "never", but I doubt I will get into Digital Distribution at all. It will be interesting to see how they market it though and what features will be available for it.
the way fanboys talk about ps3 and bluray.
the fact that ps3 has only been out for 6 months and doesn't have a lot of games,then it's called a "bluray player."
when bluray is trounsing hd-dvd in sales,then ps3 is called a "game system" and shouldn't be counted as a "bluray player" compared to toshiba stand alones.
the fact that bluray looks to be the winning format and successor to dvd,then fanboys consider bluray "obsolete" and bring up digital distribution.when we know you need a fast infrastructure worldwide for it to be adopted fully.
and we all know that won't be for YEARS.do people thing the public are going to buy tons of virtual terabyte space?not anytime soon.cd is still around,dvd,even vcrs and tapes.we still don't even get great gas mileage or have stepped on mars even though the tech is out there.
this article and many others, and the ones to come up in the future, are created to deflect what is happening.which is:
bluray whooping hd-dvd's @SS!
People that want to make a movie collection will always want a disc, you can't make a movie collection on your harddrive. It's different for music you can store 20,000 song on an IPOD but only 8 movies on it. There is no way the internet will be able to handle such capacity for HD movies until about 10 years from now. Some places don't even have broadband yet. Sure if you don't mind waiting a day to download a movie or you can spend 15 minutes and drive to blockbuster and start watching rightaway.
Sorry to digress but has anybody notice the quick increase of SOME extreme 360 fanboys bubbles in a short space of time? Ive seen people loose bubbles for stating their opinions without flame and people who 99% of the time talk trash move from 1 to 4 in the space of a couple weeks. PLEASE MONITOR THIS MODS.
Back to the header. why people would think that both would loose is a little naive. dvds will outsell any hd format for years but this is the start of hds product life cycle. when people switch which they inevitably will the sales may then decide a winner
Agreed it won't take 10 to 15 years, I can start watching a movie off XBL after 4 minutes and it takes about an hour to download while i'm watching or i can have the 360 do it later when sleeping or gone.
As compression gets better and HDD's get biggger and cheaper no one will be waiting 15 years. I can see owners storing their content on servers or having mega sized HDD's that are cheap in only a few years.
#1 people do it all the time lol, 360 fans watch HD movies only after a few minutes lol you people are so scared you're ignorant.
Again we 360 owners watch movies in 3 or 4 minutes we also can have the 360 function by itself and do all the work hands free. Just wait for MS's live stream/feed service coming this Xmas.
MS is alread testing the waters and will probaly be the leading pioneer in this compression/DDL market. We already buy TV shows.
Thats the PS3 fanbase XBL marketplace thrives. PS gamers are a different type of gamer generally not the type that excepts change well. Probably gothic Anime loving loyalist or kids lol.
You based your claim on the PS3 fanbase lol. Studios are joining XBL offten ther has been talks of Net-Flix merger; companies are starting to sponsor XBL. lol
I already broke it down too. Man, let me find my post. brb
The editor is full of it. He thinks that just because he downloads all his content, everyone will eventually do so in the next five years. What a pretentious c0ck. Anyway, first you need the people to be tech saavy enough as to get their content on demand on their living room. Second, you need them to be willing to disregard owning the movie physically; owning something is a perfect marketing tool. Third, if studios get greedy, digital distribution may backfire due to it being more expensive than disc owning.
This guy is disregarding the way movie distribution has always worked. He says it doesn't make sense, which is funny, since it works right now. So how does it not make sense? You need internet to reach blazingly fast speeds, and those speeds won't come for at least another 10 years. By then, it's not like everyone will dump discs; it's not like everyone will be ready and have the technology at home. It'll be only the early adopters. So, it makes sense to still have discs since it's easier, a lot cheaper since you don't need expensive and LIMITED HDDs nor high internet speeds. Internet would become clogged.
Furthermore, knowing the consumer electronics industry, they will keep releasing higher definition TVs to keep selling. But those TVs need content, and of course, the only company to have content and hardware and the most likely to do the push for new tech will be Sony. So, if that happens, internet speed wouldn't be enough. Hardware makers will realize Sony is the only one to be able to save them from diminishing revenue and profits if content on-demand kicks in, so most of the hardware industry will support it, just like they do with the new Blu-ray association; they get part of the royalties, and it makes sense for Sony to let them get part of the royalties since they also get income from content, unlike a sole hardware manufacturer, which would be greedier with royalties (like Toshiba). It makes sense to back the content provider, since they will be making the push for the format. Before, that wouldn't have happened, since there was no threat to hardware makers, that's why there was no format war against DVD, and that's why now Blu-ray has more support from hardware makers. In the future, if hardware makers want to make more profit, they're gonna have to keep supporting higher technology with better discs (and there's plenty of resolutions and storage technology to exploit).
Content on demand might end up becoming the ONLY mainstream solution... in 30 years, at the least.
HD DVD will prevail over Blu Ray, and Digital Distribution will eventually prevail over HD DVD, and the 360 has both HD DVD and Digital Distribution
Digital Distribution will undo Blu-Ray and HD-DVD and this is how.......
Microsoft is indeed smarter than the other person. Whether that "person" is Sony, Toshiba, W. Bush...wait, anybody's smarter than him.........anyways I like the comment about Microsoft using this format for nothing more than a long delay to put in place the foundation for true digital distribution. Now while some people would argue they would rather have a hard copy rather than a movie saved at one location (I know I used to argue that) the cold reality is that this generation really doesnt matter as far as these big corporations are concerned. We are living in a time where a very high tech future is being put into place, so we may not even see the iconic innovations being worked on. Infrastructures are being put into place to make digital distribution the forever standard meaning that we or actually our children and grandchildren arent going to have to worry about format wars because there are going to be mega websites that save every movie, game, or whatever you buy, and there arent going to be boxes on top of tvs to download these movies though, your television will have wifi built into it, so wherever you go, if you bought a movie, you will be able to instantly retrieve it from this mega website, let's just use blockbuster.com or something. And you won't be able to just go to all of your friends house and just give each of them your copy of Spiderman 6 or whatever though. If you let a friend "borrow" the digital download, just like a disc, that location will be the only one that can view that content until you try to retrieve it elsewhere when at that time, if your friend is still watching spiderman6 and you decide to go somewhere else and try to watch it, your friend will be pissed because as you access that same content somewhere else, his download will expire. As internet speeds will undoubtedly only get extremely faster, downloading entire movies and games will take only a couple of seconds, and even cellphones will be able to download the same content. These "format wars" are going to be looked back on as something totally irrelevant. bluray's not important, hd dvd's not important........hell, you are really not important right now. I know all of this because I am from the future. SPOCK OUT!
And the Xbox 360 already takes advantage of hd dvd as well as digital distribution. and since the spring update, you can now download content three times as fast as before, so you can't say that mainstream digital distribution is soo far off. People didnt even think of digital distribution with music catching up so quick with cd sale. I don't remember the last time I bought a cd.
Not just a series of 1s and 0s...I've had hard drive failures too frequently to even buy music in digital distribution...me wants disks. (unless it's rental, then I don't care)
Chicks dig movie libraries...it's always what they look at when you're fixing drinks...makes for great conversation too.
And all you would have to do then is simply redownload. Plus, am I the only that have never had a hard drive crash?
about the re-downloading of movies that you loose, but I have a pretty extensive DVD collection imaging having to re-download 100+ movies... + I would need a Raid5 just to keep em all digital...I know, the technology will probably be there at that point but still that's a lot of money for...1s and 0s.
BTW I've had 3 HD failures at work and 1 at home.
I prefer having a disc over having a movie on a harddrive. It wont be until the next generation after Blu-ray and HD-DVD that digital distribution takes over.
Your hard drive will not be stuffed with your 100+ movies. You will at will be able to pick whatever movie you want to watch from your virtual library and download it. This will save your hard drive space for more important stuff........porn, j/k
The fact that digital music distrubution is pretty much leadin cd's dosent mean a significant amount of ppl still dnt buy cd's. Digital video will most definetly be the future but Blu ray will not die it will jst play like cd's. Disk space is limited having 10GB video (high def) isnt always practical so i think disc movie formats will be around for a while. So i still cast my vote for blu ray
There has to be a winner in the end, digital distrubution is getting everywhere but it wont kill good old shopping methods. Look at internet, we have online news and email and yet people still buy newspaper and use paper mail (Although the last one is dying...).
will win and that this holiday season will play a big part in deciding who the victor might be. My opionion is that it will be blu-ray.
another format will come out.
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