PushSquare's "Twiggy" discusses the potential feature-set, pricing and marketing that could make the rumoured Playstation Network Premium service a success. What would make you bite?
Twiggy - The Stig of the gaming industry. Brilliant.
If that's a compliment (which I think it is) I'll pass it on. Either way, Twiggy loves hearing from folks.
personally i think $70 a -year- is way too much. I think they should lower the $30 to $20, the $70 to $45 and offer an all in one package for $55-65.By lowering their prices alot more customers would be willing to spend money in a time of recession. edit:sorry yeah i know it was a year just made a mistake typing too fast.
It's $69.99 for a year $9.99 month and one is 29.99 a year 4.99 s month
but I like free. So I'll just stay with free.
but i freakin called that music service part of the paid PSN - Redlogic - 24 days 1 hour ago PM Track Ignore 21.1 - i think that they will add a itunes-esq service. What a great way to break into the market by using an install base already established well around the world! go me!! back to reality, my curiosity has definitely been peaked
Sony is going to make Premium worth the price and if they do, I'll happily pay for it. As I've said before, I don't mind paying as long as I get my money's worth.
If there are a bunch of different features in the premium price I'd like to see an option that allows you to purchase only the features you want. That way if cross-game voice chat was a premium thing I'd be able to pay for that as it's about the only thing I'd bother paying for.
I really wish we wont have to pay for cross-game chat feature, or at least we may have a free limited version, but I know people I want to talk with wont subscribe to any Premium service. And 70$ is far too expensive (especially if it translates in Europe at 70 euros), 30~40$ is pretty much a right price, even though proposed features in the survey were very interesting, I'm already handicapped with the Live price, I wont pay even more for a Prmeium PSN.
Firstly we dont yet know for sure exactly what sony are gonna offer, and i dont know why people focus always on the cross game chat, i know its a pretty neat feature, if say you could chat and do whatever you like on the ps3, say play a game then finish then browse the net etc, all while seamlessly chatting away. however there are many more propossed things on offer, even the waggering system would be ace, especially if you could use the credits to buy content, but then it may get into the realms of gambling and that could get sticky. anyway my point being just wait and see what they offer first, they may well make it so damn cool that you HAVE to have it! lol... i have a pretty good feeling about this actually, and if it is that good id defo shell out 40-50 pounds for the year. be thankful to sony that they are atleast keeping everything you have now free!
If I focus so much on cross-game chat it's because it's the feature I know I'll use the most. I don't have friends on XBL so it's useless, but on PSN I have a load of friends and I know personally some of them, so a cross-game chat on PSN would be awesome, and I'm ready to pay for a premium service because Sony did much for me (cheating with my warranty, giving me free goodies, free games, free beta codes,...) so I want to compensate. However because my biggest awaited feature is cross-game chat does not mean other features are pointless, cloud storage games, full title trials, loyalty rewards, discounts on Store are really great for suscribers, but cross-game chat is for me the flagship. But 70$ a year is just too much.
If you read my blog, currently prending, you would see why it cost so much, but even so, its defiantly worth the price. I know you'd rather have cross-game chat free, but you should come to expect some things aren't free, its just like microsoft, it costs money to CGC, but atleast on PSN, even if you dont pay, you can still play online for FREE. http://www.n4g.com/up/0/Blo...
Tjhing is somwe people, mhyself especially, would STILL cubscrive to Live id there was NO Xgame chat! So, if Sony do wreck their service by bringing ir in at least it'll ruin fewer games if you must pay for it but I'd be AMAZED if they can manage to get this working very well without taking what we already have away from us. People pay for Live not because of crappy features like Xgame chat that they could EASULY do without(would anyonme honestly pay a fee rather than wait five minutes?)but to PLAY online. Seriouslym Sony will have to come up with stuff that you can't already do better and for free(legally or otherwise) on PC. If they can't then they'll have to make us pay to game online like MS have done. What annoys me now is that I was dense enough to pay for Live for so long and all it's achieved is hastening the death of free opnline console gaming. Why were we so stupid? Anyway, tunes, films, longer demos? Apart from the demos you'll still get better value away from your PS3 and most gamers I know have NEVER played a PS1 classic unless they're also PSP owners and even then it's only a few. As gor the cloud based game saves-it's a cool idea but I already have a few flash drives that can carry my saves about for nothing and a bif enough HDD not to worry at home. So, personally, I can't see this working and the prices quoted are shockingly dear and would make sure of total failure. the main draw is STILL online play and unless Sony grasp the nettle and make us pay for that then this all falls down and seeing that they really can't do that I think the premium service should be put away til at least PS4. I'm done with having to keep paying different bloody people just to go online! IHAVE to pay GT for a poneline I don't want to have broadband to play online THEN I pay through the nose for a crappy 8meg connection (all that my exchange can do is up to about 5.4 though!)through my damn ISP because Sky (who I also subscribe to for football)don't do the free internet for TV subs in my area!So, ignoring outlandish phonecall prices(my total BT bill is £87 every month and we average less than 10 mins od calls per day!)I pay £12 LR and £19 ISP every month to get online at all without paying Sony and MS into the bloody bargain. We should NEVER have allowed MS to do what they have and the fact I only sacked it after the ads and avatars became too much makes me equally as much at fault as anyone-which I regret more than anything else I've ever done in gaming(and I bought TH AND Haze day one!)as it's damned gamers everywhere to yet another blatant rip off when console gamers get the crappy end of every stick already. The console makers need o understand we aren't a bottomless pit of cash that will accept anything we get thrown and still say thanks and "can we pay more for this crap?". So we need to stop meekly paying for thjings that should be funded in ways other than ripping us off but as soon as MS knew they had us they banged in the ads AS WELL! And now Sony are joining the despicable party, eh? Well, great, but I promise you, nothing listed there(and not the laughable price-seriously have they learned nothing from their PS3 pricing mess?)wikll make thuis an exciting thing anyione but the most loyal, rabid and deluded Sony fanboys will want any part of as long as we can still game online for free It's the be all and end all of charging online goodies on cnsoles and if Sony don't see that then I'm astounded. And , seriously, who in the world thought ANYONE would pay those mooted prices for any of the vaguely interesting but ultimately unneccessary stuff listed here? Hopefully, when they introduce it they keep the high prives, make Xgame chat part of it completely but keep online gaming free, watch it fail in a month or so and then forget about it! But their pricing! Think about the video store. Everyone I kno in the EU wanted it to arrive and out of 50 or so mates I only know one who has EVER used it to rent or buy anything and he only did it once, drunk to see how it woprked and fell asleep before he even watched anything. And why is this? BECAUSE IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE by miles and so is the mooted monthly outlay for premium PSN-whatever it ends up meaning as I'd want something spectacular for that kind of money considering we already game for free. It'll be pat for online PSN gaming soon enopughj, though, because we were daft enough to pay MS for what seemed like a novel idea for consoles at the time even when we'd bveen playing for years on PC! Makes me wonder if we really are all supid sometimes.
I always wondered why people care about chatting so much. When I want to talk to my friends, I go out with them. I don't sit at home staring at a television screen, talking and laughing away over the net, while my wife gets more and more annoyed at me for hogging the TV and being a noisy assh0le. You folks should get out more often. Games are fun, but real life is better.
Do you go out with them in the middle of a game? Does that mean you leave the game session or do you bring your consoles with you?
...if PS2 games were available, or a discount on games on PSN
a huge library of PS2 titles on PSN too. That would be amazing.
Who needs backwards compability anyways?
@Marceles: If you didn't read the survey, it did say a discount on the PSN store, along with free ps1 games, free ps themes and free ps minis...
If they offer discounts on the ps store for subscribers that would be a HUGE plus, and maybe free dlc for first party games. I dont really know what they would offer though but im sure itll be worth it.
@ZombieAutopsy: If you didn't read the survey, it did say a discount on the PSN store, along with free ps1 games, free ps themes and free ps minis...
Yea i just read it, i wasnt aware there was even one till i read this article as all i have done is work and sleep for the past 2 months.
At $69.99 I would not look into going premium at all. But at $34.99 I think it sounds reasonable. To tell you the truth, I would own a 360 but paying $49.99 for Live is whats been stopping me from Jumping In :P As long as Sony keeps its current features of PSN free, everything should be fine. I just hope Sony gets the price right on this one.
70 dollars a year is a reasonable price, free ps1 games, free themes, free minis, extended 3 year warranty, discount on PSN store, cloud storage space for games and more, thats an amazing price for all of that, all of which aren't offered on XBL at all. Theres 83 ps1 games that range from 4.99 and up on the US PSN store so far, 250 themes you MUST pay for (1.49 and up), and 25 minis that range from 2.99 and up. That alone is a total over 800 dollars! Sony is giving us a deal of a life time, and they'll be adding more PS1 games, themes and minis to the store every year. http://www.n4g.com/up/0/Blo...
^^ I'm fairly sure none of that is confirmed yet I highly doubt sony would just offer all of them PS1 games And I'm guessing if so you would have to be logged in and still paying for the premium service to play them..
well of course not, but im sure sonys planning something close to this, otherwise there would be no point in mentioning it. You never know, they've given us FREE online since day one and an amazing line-up of first party games. Even so, thats still would be worth the 70 dollars
Boot a non-premium user for a premium in voice chat? That would just piss people, including me, off
Yes, but you have to remember, the 360 does the same thing, but atleast with this, you can still play online for FREE. The article states that as an idea to get more sales, the way sony put it, you wouldn't have that option, so talking to two people cross game chat, would be better than none at all...
i would pay for all those extra psn features...
Now heres someone logical to get past the having to pay for CGC and see how amazing paying only 70 dollars a year is for all that.
Now hmm if i were ever the director in charge of psn the 1st thing i would work on is the infrastructure and communication functions. you know the basics. what must be made mandatory like trophies via fw update? Voice messaging, xchat, private chat, party system, auto settings for things like video and audio and network settings. if i have both an hdmi and a component cable plugged in it should automatically set itself to the highest settings that being the hdmi cable connection. same with internet connections if i happen for some strange reason have both a wireless router and an Ethernet cable plugged in to my ps3, the system should automatically set the connection to the highest that being the Ethernet cable connection. >forget face book, work on a better browser if not gives us the option to use the latest version of firefox. >forget life with playstation, make a small weather/location and time system incorporated with the gamer-card, so when or anyone views their or someones else's gamer card they can see their time and current weather status(ofcourse this is info that should come from their zip codes used to create their psn accounts, with this many don't have go to a different application like life with playstation. all along side ones trophy count and level simple. >Universal in-game invite, again through the gamercard add an icon which allows for this, for whenever you want to send an invite to a friend whether or not they are playing the same games it ill all work just like uncharted 2's party up system. >the ability to continue charging my ps3 controller and downloading items off the store while the ps3 is on sleep mode. >bluray info now pops up, say if im watching a bluray movie it now shows the name of the title to my friends online, so this way my friends dont sit there thinking im not doing anything with my ps3 when im online, same deal with the browser and store. >ability to chat, and listen to music while browsing the store. >move battery life bar just a bit over away from the clock. >universal custom soundtrack support, just like how they made trophies mandatory this is one of those features i feel should too be mandatory. >get rid off those ugly gray boxes instead make them clear and stylish, you know sleek. >gaming progress info, via the gamercard there should be a small generalized progress info available on display, for example oni12 playing uncharted 2 single player campaign on crushing-chapter 4 ect..this should be the case with every game as well as mandatory, you know it helps to know how far a rival of minds is going or doing to outpace me for that platinum trophy. >more psone classics, and introduced ps2 games in HD with trophies to the store sometime next year, also hopefully Sega jumps on board with dreamcast support as well. >bring trophies to the psp, any trophies gain via psp exclusives should add to your total trophy/level count on the psn. It should be one psn id, two platforms double the amount of trophies, and yes psn games should have platinum trophies as well.Note if im online via my psp, my buddies online on the ps3 should be able to see this via status icon on display and exchange messages with them back and forth vice versa if you will, just like how yahoo msg and msn msg work on and off pc's and portable devices simple "its all about the infrastructure". >don't have to release anything now or tomorrow, but i rather they take their time and give us big updates rather than some small ones. just saying.
The moment you charge for a service, it better damn well be worth it. Cross game chat is a feature I care nothing about. How about we get in game music done first (and not just the 3 or so titles that allow you to play your own music). How about we get communication fixed...I still can't leave a voice message for ANY user on PSN. While I am a PS3 convert, I truly miss the centralized messaging and control that live offered me. PS3 is still a ways off with respect to this, and since Sony leaves the choices up to the game developers every single implementation is different. A good example is in game music. Developer X has me go 2 menus deep, click square, and menu comes up to select my local MP3's. Developer Y has me go 5 menus deep, click triangle, and browse. And finally Developer Z just couldn't be bothered....and now I am forced to listen to the crappy music that shipped with the game. My underlying point here is that there is NO STANDARD. The main reason there is no standard is that MS patented it. With the 360 I simply hit the menu, and select my music...it is the EXACT same method for EVERY single game. Same thing with messaging and cross chat. I shutter to think how Sony is going to offer cross chat. So, in short, they still need to do some serious work if they hope to charge for this service. Cross game chat means nothing, and if that is the hook you will lose out on all those who could give a crap. Additionally the fact that Sony is foaming at the mouth to charge for premium does not sit well with me. They already positioned this to investors/shareholders as a revenue generator. I sincerely hope they spend time on this one and think it through. I just don't think it will happen. The fact that Sony prices all digital versions of PSP titles at the same price (or higher) than actual physical media does not provide me with much hope.
I think it's great to have options and know at the end of the day. There still will be a free PSN service available. You wont be forced into paying to play. Now that is amazing! :)
if... it was as popular as xbox live
Nobody gives a Sh*t about Lagbox LIVE!!! Gets some dedicated servers and stop using that old Kazaa P2P crap.
I heard they had it working with up to 8 people at once so I guarantee you that's what will cost us.
YOU SIR JUST MADE EVERY PS3 OWNERS WET DREAM! dude send that to sony if u ever get into some kind of contact,those feature would skyrocket the amount of time i stay on my ps3
I wouldnt mind a PSN premium service charge i wouldnt necessarily buy into it, but it gives people choice you would still have your free online and all the other features you currently have, then you have a choice of upgrading if you feel like it some people would, others would just be happy with the free online gaming and stick with that its a bit like PS Home, alot of people buy stuff, alot of people dont and think buying virtual items is crazy, but its an option you have so i think choice is good
good list lol all viable, but very optimistic lol
would like to add a feature to this old list of mines. new and exclusive to psn, live broadcasting- say if you're outside waiting for your friends or buddies to send you a game invite, you could and should be able to watch live video feeds of how you're friends are currently doing in a call of duty multi-player match or even an uncharted 2 match as well. all while you wait.
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