Eurogamer Portugal published a gameplay video comparing Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5.
finished game vs a thing that sony themselves cant even call a "demo" because how compressed it is and all the aspects they left out.. way to go..
better than Forza 3.
IMO GT5 is in every way better than Forza.
Well yes sir, Eurogamer, you are invited to the party! What's that? You invited yourself? Well, no worry, because the general populace will buy right into your partial bullsh1t, no questions asked! /facepalm edit: @ JokesOnYou I'm sure you well-aware of WHY exactly the Time Trial demo looks like it does. Do you honestly, with any of whatever rational thought you have in your mind, think that 220 MB of compressed, stripped-down game is going to look anywhere near like a product that's near completion? The fact that people are even putting these two up against each other when Gran Turismo is in the state that it is in with this demo really shows just how good the GT engine can be -- even when it's hacked down to a bare-bones presentation.
Im glad GT5 isn't finished yet, still needs some better textures and environments to catch up to Forza3, hopefully in the end it will match it in physics and damage as well. JOY edit, Calm down thereapersson, 220mb doesn't mean this was compressed and therefore ruined the quality, it simply means that this is a very small snapshot of GT5's current gameplay, in other words this demo is so short its only 220mb. http://www.vg247.com/2009/1...
This is how people try to beat around the bush, "Comparing a full game to a demo" Hogwash we say. Ok take the demo of Forza3 and then the demo of GT5 then compare.
Forza 3 was pretty much the way it was going to be when they released that demo. Gran Turismo 5: Prologue still had a lot of work to be done to it before it could even begin to consider itself representative of the final Gran Turismo 5 product. By the time Forza 3 came out, the game had already gone to "Gold" status.
That a highly compressed "alpha-demo" of GT5 looks and plays better than the retail title, Forza 3. Kudos to Sony for knowing how to pick 'em.
I just watched the video and GT5 absolutely destroys Forza 3 in visuals. Anyone who says that forza 3 looks better then GT5 needs to donate their eyes to somebody more worthy of them Off topic- Just saw this funny video that some might like http://www.youtube.com/watc...
yes its just stupid to compare these using a compressed demo/trial thing.or wotever polyphony r calling it. @saaking 1.2 - IMO GT5 is in every way better than Forza. have to disagree there.not in everyway better.tho every driving game fails to hold my attention,i have to say each of these games has its own pluses.i think that in terms of driving physics,any driving game has just about nailed the physics of a real car.it aint that difficult anymore and they wont be the difference here. but to my point.the good and unique things about gt5 will the the finish on the cars and the level of depth in the game.then there is forza.wot i liked about forza is the level of customisation.and i think the GT series stopped that in GT2.not to mention the online auctions.which is fantastic.wot we will get in gt5 is a load of slider bars to adjust the setting.pretty boring. im not dissin gt5 and im not dissin forza.forza is not as hardcore.a driving game is a driving game is a driving game.end of. gt5 will have 1000 cars right out of the bag.and forza had x amount.but in terms of paint jobs combined with engine and body mods ,gives an infinite amount of unique cars. but who doesnt want to do the top gear track? GT5 will probably be the 2nd ps3 title i buy in the last 3 years
What does that article prove? Of course it's GT code. What do you think it would be? Forza or Ridge Racer code? The fact of the matter is, there are things absent from the demo that are still in pre-release versions of the actual game. Examples are, no tire skid marks or smoke when cornering, and the biggest omission is no damage modeling whatsoever. I'm not mad or anything, I just hope that people know how trimmed this demo really is, and that it's really stupid to compare it to Forza 3 in such a manner. I would hope you realize this.
Jokesonyou, I know you are all ironic tricking people into thinking you are speaking how you feel, but really you are trolling. So the believers are trick, so the jokes on them... But in the future at least put a little effort into your posts. The demo was 200mb. That is the smallest demo ever. They left out all kinds of details. You can not slightly compare the final product to this demo.
wow the reviewers and developers was right when they said forza 3 is definitive
The GT Academy Demo wins and it's not even the final look of the game. PS: Notice how they lowered the volume of the music to the GT Academy Demo gameplay to make it seem boring. It's like when those 1800 ads have a competing products' brand shown in black and white footage. I might be a little paranoid but I notice these things way too much in these "comparisons".
car looks better, environment looks better, and it sounds better. GT5 interior looks better, in fact it looks like the interior shots we have seen in the full game, which means the graphics in this supposed not a demo are what the final build will likely look like. Sorry GT5 fans but looks like Forza3 is indeed, definitive.
I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular but I find it hilarious that loads of PS3 fanboys attack the demo for the supposed God of War 3 competitor, Bayonetta, as being rubbish. Yet when a demo comes out for GT5 they're "but its not the finished article...hasn't got this, hasn't got that". In truth I agree with the opinion that a demo is often far from the finished article. However, I'd like some equivalence in the use of that notion.
Pay attention to the media when they compare PS3 demo's with 360 exclusives. They intentionally leave the word "demo" out of the title. That being said, the GT Academy demo still owns the full retail 360.
Polyphony just sets much higher standards which is why people are disappointed. The game doesn't even look bad, blows Forza 3 away in the comparison. And just think about having 16 highly detailed cars compared to Forza's 8 cars that look like plastic. @Hoggy1983 Bayonetta is already out...
Why the name when you hate it? Is this the worlds worst attempt at subterfuge?
I am surprise. I thought GT5 with the extra time would insure it look better than Forza3. The game is not out yet though, so there is still time to tweak. The textures in the environment, like roads and trees look more detailed in Forza3. Maybe GT engine doesn't work well with the cell. But they could hold forza back to the fall and put some more work on the graphics. Maybe bring in Naughty dog or one of the western developers who spent the time to figure out the cell.
what a tool like comment have u forgotten gt5p sill look better than forza 3 or something. playstation games dont go backward brother so keep ur misinformed comments to yourself. modnation racers is the sh!t people...theres over 30 ug tracks to download already. Its gunna be BIG in 20ten
Its not out in the UK, where I'm based, until January 8th. Is it out in the US yet? If you mean Japan hasn't it been getting great reviews there? Even beyond January 8th my point still stands.
there's no getting away from the poly count advantage on GT5's dashboard. I would of used the tuned version from GT in this vid though.
Is the Forza in-car view REALLY that bad? It looks 2D and cheap. And why is it so washed-out looking in a supposedly daylight race? And the only place that the outdoor textures looked "better" for Forza in this video were where the car was driving through the wooded area, but GT had no equivalent video of such an environment so it's invalid to judge on that segment. On the track portions, GT looked just as good environmental-texture-wise, but had much better lighting and looked sharper. I mean really, people...you'd have to be insanely deluded to claim that Forza looks better here. C'mon. I did like the Forza engine sounds, but in terms of realism GT wins that as well. Forza went the arcade-route on the sound front.
And by the way, Eurogamer (a classic pro-360 site if there ever was one) did a Digital Foundry piece that compared GT5:P to Forza 3 several weeks ago, and concluded that even THAT early version of GT5 beat Forza 3 in graphics. It got sandbagged by N4G. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
For the record and especially after seeing this footage GTp and GT5 come nowhere near Forza 3. The lighting in GT5 is great and all but it's to much and was obviously add to hide many flaws. If T-10 were to just redo the lighting in Forza3 it would really smash GT5. The talk of GTP and 5 looking much better is hilarious to read.
GT5 demo isn't anywhere close to Forza 3 the video was captured poorly or tampered with why is the Forza footage so fuzzy and have smashed detail in blocks? Why is the forza 3 footage much darker than it really is on that track? I promise you guys ignore these PS3 fanboy attempt at damage control with all these low quality videos(720p? LOL).On a 1080p HDTV GT5 demo looks like a PS2 game in comparison to forza 3(not the cars though) I agree with JOKES ON YOU, the 220mb size excuse is getting old, the demo is one simply track and two version of one car for christ sakes. It's not the lackluster graphics I'd be worried about it's the physics in every sense. The driving mechanics are horrid.
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You're either blind or sadly wishful. Wish in one hand, sh...in the other, see which one gets filled first, my man. The Forza in-car looks AWFUL in comparison. No impartial viewer would deny that. And again, answer my question: why does the Forza sky look like daylight, but the objects all look dim? Why is the lighting so bad? Is it a glitch, or are the lighting effects just poorly done? The pro-360 site Eurogamer already gave the visual crown to GT5:P over Forza 3, so I'd really like to hear someone explain that. @1.27: Those photos aren't that impressive. I just don't see it. Why is it so important to you people for us to think Forza 3 looks as good as GT5? If Forza 3 is good enough for you, great. Go play it then. Right now it sounds like you're trying to justify your purchase.
those are photo modes,same as these http://i49.tinypic.com/14bn... http://nitrogliserin.net/wp...
This comparison is useless because they are comparing 200mb unfinished product(GT5 acadamy demo) to a full finished game (forza 3)... this is so unprofessional.
No cause you think that it is. All we have to do is compare Forza 3 demo to the GT5 demo. Simple enough. And WTF is everyone's deal with awww man it is 200 meg's, doesn't matter how big the file size is. But the problem is the demo of forza looks exactly how forza looks.
For reals. When did DEMO SIZE become a valid argument? Why would Sony release a demo that was so unrepresentative of the final product that it wouldn't be comparable to any other game. This is by far the lamest excuse I've read on N4G.
The only thing we know for certain at this present time is that Forza 3 is a great game. We'll also know if GT5 is a great game when its released.
Size does matter, anyone who knows computers knows this. 200 mb game could mean lower textures, and a shorter game then one that is 2 gb. So if ANYONE says that size does not matter they are kidding themselves. so the Full game of GT5 should have and will have far better Textures then It's Demo, duh.
The droids search for excuses: "only 220 MB demo" "downgraded demo" "a demo which got compressed" Droids like Saaking and many more retarded kings here on n4g still think that GT5 beats Forza3 in EVERY WAY.. well maybe only with the CARS but the whole environment looks like crap! Same with Heavy Rain.. only the characters looks great.
Says the worst troll on this website, who has been caught stealing and using other members' posts disguised as his own. Epic fail on all counts for you! http://n4g.com/RedirectToOb...
maybe GT5 beats forza with the cars. In this video the 370 in Froza looked a lot better, and we have yet to see any actual game footage of GT5 cars looking better than Forza3 cars, most of what we have seen of GT5 cars so far have been bullshots.
If you compare this tiny demo of 2 cars and a plain track to forza 3 then you are dissing forza 3. I would bet anyone that when GT5 comes out next year everyone will be blown away. THEY JUST WANTED TO SHOW OFF THE PHYSICS WITH THIS DEMO. You fanboys look for bait anywhere. Prologue looks better than this demo.
a 200mb demo looks better then a game having to be put on 2 discs.. yikes. have fun with 18 tracks and 200 cars bots. Ill have fun with over 70 tracks and 1000 cars
GT5 200 MPH looks like 100, lol....
You must be the dumbest person on here...GT5 speedometer is in "kilometers per hour" and Forza is in "miles per hour" and this video was made to make GT5 look bad because they gave it no music, so it just didn't seem fun. However, we a know Gran Turismo 5 will be a revolution when it comes out because this demo isn't a true represention of the real thing, Sony confirmed this; its a highly compressed demo taking away from the visual quality, even GT5 prologue looks better.
gt5 is a carbon copy of forza 3..
it is 200 kmh
THEN PLAY NEED FOR SPEED SHIFT OR I DONT KNOW, IT DOESNT EVEN GET TO 200 MPH SO SHUT THE F*** UP.
Wow! Eurogamer has the final released vesion of GT5! Oh wait ..
I liked forza 3 more then both gt5p gt5/TT But I will still be picking up gt5 when it finally release next year? ,Note No game this gen will ever really feel like you are driving a real car, smell, adrenalin, heat, car motion, are real life factors a console can not generate, and any body who say's that GT5, or Forza 3 is like driving a real car is not telling the truth, I like the way forza 3 handles it does feel realistic, and so dose gt5p /gt5tt. .....:)
EDIT: this is intendet to jurnalists not xbox users so be gentle with disagees :D It will never stop, they just dont want to understand or they are not capable to read and understand what they have read.... This is demo for showcase the physx of a upcoming GT5 and the graphic showcase was on TGS (video below). But noooo they will keep on bashing, let them bash because ive played trial and im impressed, its more difficult then GT Prologue, and they put it fore two reasons to get more feedback and to kill our thirst for this game :).... And its set by default on professional and those casual racers (with gamepads)are not gonna enjoy, this demo is practicly for those that have steering wheels, read this: http://www.neogaf.com/forum... Well i liked what i drove last night and im sure im gonna crush this time trial over the weekend :) And forza, i just dont give fu....
They will only make droids cry moar lol. Right im gonna be honest now putting fanboyism aside forget all the bull that is said in here. If u really like racing simulators and havent tried Forza 3 I suggest you do so and youll get hooked i promise. If i didnt have 360 and i tried this game at my mates house the next morning ill be waitin outside shop to buy console and forza 3. Same thing happened to me when Gears of War came out. If we give credit to a game when it is due this website will be a much more peacful place :)
I've tried Forza 3, and all I can say is that, it is for noob. Too easy, I lost interest immediately. If you've been playing Forza 3, you won't like GT5P or GT5, because it's hard. GT is for pro on account of it's physics and being true to the way a real car handles. That's why it's called a driving simulator.
Why are the shadows in ps3 games "jagged"?? They aren't smooth.... I noticed this when I played MGS4. The graphics were sooooo good, but then when I noticed the shadows, I was like WTF!?!? Anyone else notice this??
I've only noticed it in MW2
Please? Eurogamer is Crazy? Forza 3 is Game complete....GT Accademy is Esclusive Time Trial for qualification for GT Accademy whit compressed Texture physic of GT 5 non compltete e minimun details: is Not a Final demo of GT5 or GT5 complete!!! O my God!
The Academy demo is limited to 200mb, so people with limited bandwidth could participate in the Academy contest. Eurogamer are plain and simple unprofessional.
only ones who think Forza is better are the ones who dont own a PS3.. this years Forza (demo) was the first time I acutally like Forza..but its not and will not be as good as GT....
as much as i love my xbox and hate playin games on my unsocial ps3..the japanese will buy this up in minutes and outsell forza in that market alone.that much is certain.GT5 is the only system selling game the ps3 has.disagree if you want.but the game has integrety and suits all ages.from the 14yr old to the 40 yr old.it doesnt need endless hours to rank up.it may be niche but the japanese are niche. those other ps3 exclusives didnt sell systems.and i have been playing games for nearly 2 decades and never heard of killzone..uncharted...god of war...etc.with the exception of final fantasy and Gran Turismo.and final fantasy is flyin off the shelves in japan alone. wait and see... GT5 = system seller
forza 3 is like grand theft auto...
Don't insult GTA please
Is it me or is the demo for GT5 (that i downloaded and played last night) not very.. erm... good? I feel i should qualify this statement by saying that i have the steering wheel etc and have loved every GT game to date and im sure i will love this when it comes out but there was something about the visuals that looked dated and bland.... certainly not cutting edge. Anyone agree?
not a demo.not even close.at best u could call it a promotion.the hype starts now
Wow, someone is so lucky that he/she got the COMPLETE version of GT5!!! Then it's ready!! I didn't know =O Ok, THIS time the comparison makes sense ;) /sarcasm Pls.... how many times these articles will apear now here? Really, sadness... complete VS demo Time Trial. Grats.
I see that GT5 haters are on full patrol today. This is a ridiculously unfair comparison.
Almost every comment is about how GT5 is better, its only 200 megs which is not a real demo! Its more Forza 3 haters on here today. Speak facts please!
What facts? Eurogamer is comparing a full retail game to a compressed impression of the physics engine. And yet when people mention this, they keep getting random disagrees. How about the fact that Forza 3 looks good and GT5 is shaping up nicely? Can't this war stop for once?
End of the debate :)
no need for comparing i am already try 2 games and Forza 3 much much better this video not show u full quality for Forza 3 gameplay go try the game kids
It's not out yet??? If they mean 'Gran Turismo 5:Demo' then say - 'Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5:Demo - Gameplay vídeo' or 'Forza 3:Looks like a LAST-GEN Game vs Gran Turismo 5:Demo - Gameplay vídeo' ;-D