Sony's hardware marketing director John Koller gets my props today for saying something that would send other flacks into panic mode. He recently showed astonishment that people buy virtual goods for their Playstation Home avatar with real currency.
shows astonishment at the profit more like
nah $ony cares about it's consumers they don't care about money they just want them to be happy with free online and great exclusives and stuff @Alcon Caper i know :) i'm such a fanboy
^^^ lol nice one!
you want bubbles or something or is this your 'breakfast' parody
no business cares about their customers more than money. its just Sony have a much better PR team than what the guys in Redmond have
i mean ok if you like home (i had my spell with it, was ok met some good people. but soon got bored with it, and its now deleted) thats fine, but really what does dressing your imaginery character in imaginary clothes do for you? if it was space boots that let you bounce around and get into different spaces or something i could understand... its just like that whole street fighter thing when capcom charged for clothes that were on the disc, who the feck bought that? and if so why? did it make you fight better? move faster? i dont think i ever changed my clothes in home, why the feck would i? just really odd to me... home could have been so cool, can you imagine what they could have done with it? but noooo they have the same arcade machines! crappy pool where you cant even apply spin lol... ok ok it free but so is my poo! you want some? lol
Customers generate your revenue, without them, you have no business. While of course the bottom line is about profit, repeat customers are very valuable to your company, you look after them, they'll look after you. Still, if my PS3 costs me money, it'll be on games, not micro transactions.
Fifty cents for a pirate hat? Why the hell not? The smile it still brings to my face seeing my guy in that goofy pirate hat was worth 50 cents to me. If it makes Sony money in the process, more power to em.
normally it's when I've got a couple of pound left on my account,I wouldn't put money on specifically for home,and it's only for the odd hat,or costume. After seeing this news topic I decided to log into home take a pick of what I last bought. http://img138.imageshack.us... I'll use this to spam family members Ps3's,probably work out cheaper than buying cards. http://img15.imageshack.us/...
I don't think I've bought clothes. But I've bought the picture frames, a Christmas tree, and the Namco arcade machines for my home.
i only buy when i have spare money on my account i wanna get rid of.. which doesnt happen often lol.. i bought a black baseball cap and i was pissed when i found out it was a stupid "gangzta" hat with awful patterns an other colors on it.. i just wanted a regular black cap :S
a disappointment,I always said no I'll give it a chance,it has potential but it came to a point which I stopped caring about it need some MAJOR OVERHAUL 1-xmb integration 2-almost no load times 3-a full exciting trophy room 4-a section below your trophy collection,name it"ps home rewards" to know which is which what's what 5-most important thing,ADD LIFE,home feels so lifeless,ps home in game code is as lifeless as it gets after all these upgrades,ps home will be a great place
Ahh, I remember breakfast. I used to always laugh at his comments. Whatever happened to him? On topic though, umm, money well spent huh?
In the beginning every avatar dressed alike. People got so tired of the monotony they had no choice but to buy new stuff. All part of Sony's evil plan lol. Nah J/k. It's addictive to buy new stuff. I remember once I unlocked a new shirt from street fighter 4 in home. It was like crack. I immediately went to buy some other stuff. I mean, some of you prolly paid for some SF4 dlc costumes. And those ran 4 bucks. AND they weren't very good. You mean to tell me you wont drop two quarters for your avatar?
I havent bought anything personally...they gave away free Infamous costumes and I enjoy keeping that... All I do in Home is play Pool/Poker/Bowling...everythin g else doesnt interest me much... I DO however see how people would be inclined to buy items for their avatar...considering the avatars are pretty well-rendered and very customizeable (you could almost make it look exactly like yourself). If I see an item for 50 cents that I think would be cool, I'd get it. If they sold a Foam #1 finger i would get it...doubt they do though.
This statement is so stupid that it makes my teeth hurt. Some businesses care more about money than anything else, but the VAST MAJORITY of them care about being the best. The only kind of idiot that would say some dumb sh1t like this is someone who has never owned a business or is so cynical they could find something to find fault in a newborn puppy.
you can't get a ton of free stuff on home already. So that goes to show how addicted people can be when it comes to avatars. Look at second or WOW.
If People have the money, there is anything bad about that @Bungie You forget about the -> /S Wait, now that could be really IRONIC lol
I'll never be surprised by what people will spend money on. But people think I'm stupid for spending money on video games; I think they're stupid for not spending money on video games! To each his own... Unless your own is something messed up like molesting children!
i can't believe it either....
"Bungie" never runs out of bubbles ??
I am amazed people do pay money for these kind of things but I think the sadder people are the people who pay for cash on games like Mafia wars on facebook etc. NOW THEY ARE SAD! These things are not much differnt than MS avatars except they actually look more realistic and you dont get the feeling they are being forced upon you.
I can't either! *buys something for my avatar*
If I have the money..... XD
Since HOME as a service is free, i can understand them charging for certain items. I don't buy them myself, but it makes sense. XBL is different. If you're already paying for the service, shouldn't most of the avatar clothing be free? As well as themes and wallpapers well.
Most avatar clothing on XBL IS free. Game specific items and props, aren't.
Lot's of clothing in Home is free too.
Much of the clothes on XBL and PSN are free. Premium material is not.
It shouldn't be much of a surprised considering the large success of F2P MMO's that are mainly based around people buying fashion items and helpful items. Users feel it's a sign of wealth and superiority in a game to own items that cost real money.
Exactly stupid. :)
well isn't sony bout to start charging for psn, people need to stop making a big deal over 50 bucks a year. I mean seriously if you have a decent job u can wipe ur ass with 50 bucks, if u didn't spend it on live u know just as well as i do that u would spend on something else that is complexly useless.
Its only a rumor, there isn't anything official from Sony that they will start charging for PSN.
The difference is having the option to pay or not. The current service will remain free and to someone like me, who cares more about playing their (paid for) game on their (paid for) console over their (piad for) internet and doesnt care for all the bells and whistles it's perfect. If you want more, I agree you should pay for more, and if you use it enough, the fee is justified. Whether it £5 or £5000, if I feel it's a waste, it's a waste, regardless of my salary. Plus, I like buying that other useless crap :)
Sony isn't going to charge to play online, Rather, Sony is going to charge for monthly or yearly for PREMIUM services, services like they have and charge for now such as movies, games and online magazine services. Paying to play random games online is stupid to me, imo.
I don't know what Sony plans to do. If they really do have their ear to their audience, they wouldn't dare charge for the current service. Sure it does it's job, but it's not worth a subscription fee, neither is XBL's IMO. I have heard many times over, that advertising alone can cover any expenses. What boggles my mind is how XBL charges for a service and still throws Ads in your face. Obviously they want to make a profit, but ads on top of a subscription fee have to be infuriating to some XBL users. Anyway, what I do wonder about is PSN's dedicated servers for games like Warhawk, Socom, Resistance. etc.... will they still be free? I don't know and neither does anyone else. I hope the new service is just an expansion on movies/tv shows and such. But on the flip side, why would they do that if they have Netflix? Sounds to me like Sony and Netflix would then be competition on the same console. Sounds strange to me.
I have an Avatar tee for my Home avatar. YO DAWG WE HERD YOU LEIKED AVATARS SO WE PUT AN AVATAR ON YOUR AVATAR SO YOU CAN IDLE ON YOUR OWN IN HOME.
I can't believe people use HOME! *ducks under table!* No but seriously, this is the future of gaming. Companies have already jumped on board. Like it or not Micro-transactions are the wave of the future. Sony shouldn't be surprised at all, especially with all the other companies doing the same thing and getting a lot of success (nexon).
...that there are so many idiots on this planet. Spending money on virtual clothes that adds absolutely nothing to the enjoyment of home. This stuff should be free or be available by the means of earning it in a game. Let's say you get a platinum than you get free goods in home. That is how it should work not paying money for it. But I guess as long as there are idiots out there willing to pay for absurd things than there will be catered too. Supply demand to the imbeciles.
Yeah it can be stupid, but it does add some enjoyment. I'll use an example from LBP. Tomorrow, they are introducing Pirates of the Caribbean Costumes. As a huge fan of that trilogy, I don't mind spending money to buy them. Of course it probably didn't cost MM a whole lot to make the costumes, but my love for that franchise overcomes my hate for buying the costumes themselves. I think certain people find that if you truly enjoy the experience the micro-transactions bring then I say go for it. Yeah it sucks this stuff isn't free, but neither is the labor and resources used to create more products for their customers.
It is a bit shortsighted to simply label an entire group of people as idiots for their purchasing decisions. It is entirely plausible that some members of said group simply have enough disposable income to blow on virtual goods. Who are you to tell them what they should or should not do with their money? If I wanted to go blow $200 on virtual goods in Home I could do so without affecting my quality of life in the slightest. I own my home free and clear of a mortgage. I have no debts, and I have enough money saved up that I could live for a full year if I lost my job tomorrow. According to you I would be an idiot to spend money on virtual goods in Home. Well I have spent money on such items, and it is quite likely that I will again in the future. If I am an idiot, then what are you? Do you have your ducks in a row like me? I am not trying to toot my own horn, but merely to point out that there is more than one explanation for actions that you do not comprehend.
For the most part, this newest generation of gamers is not as smart as the ones before them. They buy everything, they're happy with rehashes, overhyped super-short campaigns, useless DLC and easy as krunk games.
So basically all Nintendo products? :P
I think all 3 big companies/consoles are guilty of this, actually.
What do you do when you have some spare change from a PSN crad wandering around? Like 1-2 dollars and you just can't use it to buy anything from the PSN store? Well, you go to HOME and spend it on some useless sh1t. You don't need Newton's mind to understand something as simple as that...
to make it $20 and buy stuff from the store....I know, math is really hard and confusing. :)
And who is to say someone WANTS to add $18 to buy anything from the store at that particular time. What Bodyboarder is saying is not different from getting rid of pocket change you have laying around. Math may be confusing. But common sense might even be MORE confusing :)
Well I'm so sorry that most of you are that rich that you can just blow money like that. I collect my change at home or use it for the bus. I don't throw money away. Change is money as well. You should use your money wisely. For example. Do spend that $2 on 10 occasions and you got $20 wasted. $20 worth of useless clothes for home avatar or a PSN game??? Well I take the PSN game any day of the week. Sorry we can't agree but I take more care of where my money goes.
It has nothing to do with "being rich". Bottom line, if someone buys anything off HOME (or anywhere else for that matter) and they KNOW what they're getting and find enjoyment in it, then it's not money thrown away. Hell, I have a job, car, and pay bills too. Just because YOU think it's money wasted doesn't mean the next person has your opinion
Mine differs. It is a waste of money because you will NEVER own that product and they will take it away from you in a blink of an eye when Home is done and over. Unlike buying a game that saves to your HDD or an actual game in a store. Disagree all you want I don't really care. Looks like you get enjoyment when a company is ripping you off.
Ok first off, we live in an age of DLC, we're ALL getting ripped off. That's one. Secondly, by your logic renting movies is a waste of money if you have no means of copying them. Every MMO is a waste of money by your logic as well. The thing is, you aren't getting ripped off because you don't HAVE to buy the clothing to use HOME. If it was FORCED onto you then that's another matter. But, it ISN'T mandatory to buy ANY clothing in order to use the service. And for the record, do you really think I worry about you not caring on whether I agree with you or not? I'm here doing the same as you're attempting to do, which is make a point. I care care just as less as you do
In my eyes it is a waste of money to pay for MMO's and to rent movies. But that is another matter. Renting a movie, you'll get enjoyment out of that. It's is way different than staring at a virtual t-shirt isn't it? MMO's I think is a waste of money. You pay for a game and than every month you pay to play. Idiots keep on paying for it so companies keep on charging for it. Whatever companies charge for we can tank ourselves because we are willing to pay for crap. My point is that if you have just a little common sence and can actually think a tiny bit you will not blow your money on something like a vitrual t-shirt or virtual chair. Buying a $9.99 DLC for a game that adds something new and unique is worth it. For example...Borderlands DLC is well worth $9.99...a whole island full of zombies and loads of new missions, worth it. Resident Evil 5 DLC for $4.99 that "adds" a mode (that is already on the disk) is not worth it. Street Fighter 4's costume pack DLC is not worth it. [email protected] map pack with new zombie map's and 3additional MP maps well worth it. See where I'm going??? You have do decide what is worth it and what isn't. That is the difference between us. I know what is actually worth buying you don't. @BELOW: No I don't think that everyone must think like me or they are wrong. That is not true. But there are things in life that in fact everyone must agree on. Like: Killing is wrong, respect for your parents, respecting other people etc etc. This is one of those cases when I think everyone should know that a VIRTUAL t-shirt is in fact a waste of money. But hey....if that what makes you happy, it is your money.
Stop thinking everyone has the same ideal and train of thought that YOU do. I'll repeat what I said before, if someone KNOWS what they are getting, then it's not a waste of money. And see, I know very well what's "worth" buying. Whatever I get enjoyment out of is what's worth buying. See the difference between us isn't realizing what's worth buying and what isn't. The "difference" between us is that I don't think the world revolves around my own personal mentality. Whereas you seem to
Don't try to teach sense to someone that has their head stuck up their arse. It won't work
"No I don't think that everyone must think like me or they are wrong. That is not true. But there are things in life that in fact everyone must agree on. Like: Killing is wrong, respect for your parents, respecting other people etc etc." Bob Dole says killing is A-OK! As long as your government is paying you to do it ;)
I am amazed that gamers buy crap like this...armor for horses....stuff for the virtual apartments....I would be totally embarrassed to do it, but than again, I aint a 13 yr old
For some people, personalizing their avatar and their virtual world is a great way to kill time. For others, its just a place to drop in and drop out. In the end, its all about choice, and the incentive is never forced on anyone.
if i can use my home avatar for my gamertag's avatar....
I will never ever buy something for my avatar. I think its ridicules and stupid.
I spend like $2 in home, that's still cheap than xlive.
How are you supposed to troll without amusing clothing? I know doing the Ska isn't as fun without a frosty head and a business suit.
I would buy cloud buster sword.
People are consumers whores, like myself.
Heck, I do not even buy DLC content for my ps3 games, because I live in europe and we do not even get the PSN cards. If we want to buy something from the PS store we have to pay with credit cards. ( I hate to pay with credit cards and I would prefer to buy content with PSN cards)Some people are just to blind ... they say "Sony cares for their costumers, money isnt so important to them" or something along those lines. I named Sony as an example, all companies are like that. They care more for the big money ... well, each his own.
That's a cool screenshot of Ryu and Ken in PlayStation home. On topic: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I don't think HOME is the real problem here. I think the real problem lies i companies like Capcom, who charge for Alternate costumes for fighters. Stuff that should have came on the disc. Or how about multiplayer for RE5? Yes, that too should have came with the game. That stuff I have a bigger problem with more so than added items for your avatars on XBL or PSN's Home.
but I have yet to buy anything for it. I just don't feel all that inclined to do so.
Kaz Hirai was a fentanyl addicted gigolo for seven years before he joined the Imperial Japanese Naval Academy.
If I have a buck fifty I can't use on a game, I'll usually end up buying useless crap in Home.