The build architecture of the ps3 and xbox360 compared and explained. Which of these systems have been better built have a better build ?
goes to Sony, they are a hardware company, they really though about their architecture that the ps3 was built on. Hands down now.
Ok, I will state the obvious... better yet... I will quote the guy who wrote this article, "Yes, I am a Sony fan, ... I like sony because I haven’t had a SINGLE issue with their products. All of Sony’s products do exactly what they are supposed to do, and they do everything quite well. I know about too many of Microsoft’s products that don’t do, or can’t handle what Microsoft said they can. Examples could be, oh, I dunno, EVERY SINGLE ONE of their operating systems! But MS does have a good habit of slowly making everything they get their greedy hands on slightly better over time. That’s my argument, and I’m sticking to it." The only thing I regret is that I had to read all that crap since he added that at the end of the article. I don't need to go to another site to read about how much sony fans love the PS3 and how much they dislike the 360. We get that pretty much on every article that's posted here. "The reason that it’s hard to develop for is because there’s NOTHING else LIKE it on the face of the earth! The 360 was like that too. The only reason that you don’t hear this kind of thing about the 360 is because most of the developers on the 360 platform have some kind of affiliation with Microsoft." Conspiracy! Run! All developers are against Sony and want it dead! Yes, this is the only reason... forget that 360 games uses similar tools and technology that developers are familiar with the original xbox and the PC. Most developers Hate SOny!.. But that's not all... he goes on and lie about things like this, "Sony makes it’s money solely on hardware".... really? I was under the impression that console manufacturers make money (royalties) from games published on their console which is by they sell consoles at a lost for a long time.... I was also under the impression that Sony makes money on royalties and licenses from blu-ray... Heck! Sony is not even making a profit on hardware! Pathetic.
since the first one was pretty good, and the second one has a horrible build quality in comparison to other consoles on the market. If the author had talked about how well Nintendo makes their systems, you'd be stating the same, whiny crap. What the author is stating is true, as much as we know that hurts you. Sony did a much better job constructing their system, and simply because they were able to build it themselves. Have you ever heard of Flextronics? Me neither, but apparently Flextronics is the contractor that Microsoft put in charge of designing and manufacturing the system (who in turn hired more companies to produce the Xbox 360). The 360 was also designed in record time, so fast that issues such as overheating, motherboard warping, disc scratching, etc, were not ironed out in time for launch. There's a reason the Playstation 3 and Wii are performing flawlessly.
I am not questioning the fact that the 360 may have some issues... I just stating that he is a fanboy... such as yourself DJ. Someone that dislike the 360 and also is bias against Microsoft (more like your twin brother). As matter of fact... Not for nothing but I think you would have done a better job at flaming the 360 than hi does... you should start writing this kind kind of articles... His arguments are inconsistance and sounds more like a rant than a review. You see.. if someone like you DJ would to write the article it would sounds more apealing.. since you tend to come up with stories and things that you believe as fact... and 2 senconds later you believe them... You would be better because you beveling everything that comes out of your @$$. Explain this DJ, "Sony makes it’s money solely on hardware".. you are saying that what he said is true.. is that true too?
by accusing everyone who doesn't own a 360 as being a "______ fanboy". I'm sure it gets you lots of bubbles considering that the majority of individuals on this site are anti-Sony and anti-Nintendo, but that's beside the point. Right now you're labeling me, an Xbox owner, as a Sony fanboy. A dozen other people on this site have been doing the same thing day after day, and it's really getting on my nerves. Do you actually think that acting in such a hostile manner paints a favorable picture for other, more respectable Xbox supporters?
is easily as lame as that comparison vid the other day. That vid wasn't even using 720p after IGN already said that 1080i for some reason doesn't look as sharp on the PS3. This whole site is full of fanboyism. Don't act like you're not part of it.
But as bladestar points out, just by the fact that the author admits to total fanboyism towards the Sony products, he invalidates the entire article. How can anone as fanboyish as this author possible express an honest opinion. And the XBOXs have delivered what they promised contract to what he's claiming.
You dare call him (DJ) a fanboy, like you're some kind of innocent, unbiased gamer. You my friend are one of the biggest fanboys on this site. You, along with many others like power of green, are some of the most hateful/biggest fanboys on this site. At least Mart can say some semi-intelligent sh!t sometimes. But, you just sound like a hateful rabid fanboy all the time. Now i know i may sound like a hateful son-of-a-b!tch too. But thats just cuz i hate the fanboys, cuz you people are disgusting, and are the reason why MS is able to get away with charging me to fix my 360, when its clearly their faulty hardwares fault! because if none of you's would tolerate that sh!t, then it would be much harder for them to get away with it. But since you fanboys are willing to defend ANYTHING MS does, then you give them the power to get away with it. Its like politics, my friend, you dont really need the majority to win and get your ways, you just need the "louder" minority R.I.P 360 (from Nov 22, 2005 til May 29, 2007)
Let the fame war start!!! ;))
watch out, its happening above you aswell.
PLEASE report this story, There should not be a single "I" in this story. This is blatant plagiarism. PLEASE REPORT
mmm... I think what's going on... which stories are the ones that get the most "hot" score? flame bait articles... I guess some people are really trying hard to win this month. Too bad we are going to have to deal with stuff like this.
Sony Sony Sony Sony!!!!!!1
You can compare the circuit board and see the difference in quality. I love my 360 but I know it was not built to last because MS wanted to make alot of money and quality came second or third. The game are fine but hardware stinks. I think that the next 360 will be built alot better since they are making money off of them but this was kinda there test bed. Sony could afford to focus on quality because of the tried and true fan base and knew that they would eventual make money off of them when PS2 users upgrade.
sony rules! q:
All my friend's original PS1s broke at least once, and all of our PS2s broke at least once and sometimes twice. Also, the original PS2s sometimes had problems with reading their own discs... Finally, I went through 3 PSPs and every single one of them had at least 3 burnt pixels. Unlike the 3 DSs our household has owned. Actually, I've never had a problem with a Nintendo product (except my original NES that died after 10 years).
what have you been doing to your consoles
I went through 2 PSx's and 2 PS2's... ironically, i'm still on my launch 360 & launch xbox... can't wait to get a PS3 =)
I did think you were an xbot lol, Maybe not....
I also think that the PS3 is a very well built machine, but anyone who denies that the original PS2s had awful read-heads and that the system had a pretty high failure rate is delusional. Microsoft surely has to get their act together, but Sony never acknowledged how shoddy their original PS2s were... Or how about their statements about how 'Burnt pixels were a normal part of LCD screens' when the PSP launched? I love what Sony's done with their consoles in the past, but to claim that they're perfect is ridiculous, and flies in the face of facts. The slimline PS2s however, were tha' sh!t!
Lets look in to the future. Lets say in 2 Years a lot of the 360 will brake and eventually some of the PS3 will brake. By then people will know that the PS3 is more reliable than the 360 and they will seriously consider buying a PS3. I had a PS1 and PS2 and neve had any problem with any of the consoles. Got a 360 and it broke after 2 months, so i decided to wait for the PS3.
I don't like this mixture of truth, half truth and lies. He wrote like a politician. The PS3 build quality may be better, that's no news.
"...I like sony because I haven’t had a SINGLE issue with their products. All of Sony’s products do exactly what they are supposed to do, and they do everything quite well." Well, there goes that guy's credibility...
don't it?? why is it that you bash people who state their experience with sony hardware and give microshaft a free pass on their crappy console?? why is that??
HMM yeah. Maybe I should ship him my Sony DVD player that lets the video and the audio get out of synch. Requires a firmware update which can only be done by shipping it to sony. YAY.
Not to mention exploding batteries, PS2 consoles with disc reading issues, audio CDs that secretly install rootkits on people's machines and so on. Or was that what they were supposed to be doing?
Regardless if hes a BIG fan, it doesnt discredit the fact the PS3 is a well built system, I love how people look pass the facts and then go at something else.
There are so many things wrong with this article. First, it's completely anecdotal. There are no facts, or technical support for the story, nor is there any real credentials for Xanadu. Second, this isn't news. There's not anything remotely new discussed in this article. It's actually worse than what we've seen before. Why even bother submitting it, and why even bother approving it? There were 6-7 reports when I reported the story. I love my PS3, and I agree it's solid as a rock. But this story is horribly written, and total flamebait. The story is anecdotal, uninteresting, not news and I just don't like it, damn it.
360 is a ticking time bomb.
Love my 360. BUT PS3 is the hands down winner here, it not only performs better under heat but it's a hell of alot more sexy. I'm not going to lie, I think the 360 is a pretty sweet looking machine, but when you pull out a shiny PS3, with the shiny chromed everything and the Spideman font on the front, it's a fuc*ing sick ass machine. It's absolutely gorgeous, it's the kind of electronic you want to put right their in front of your TV just so everybody walking by is like "oOoOo"
Lol so true.
here is another absolutely stupid comment made in this article: "It actually costs LESS to make a 360 than they are being sold for!" um, does this twit realize that the 360 was losing money with each one sold when it came out? the reason it costs less to make than it is sold for is because manufacturing and price of parts is now LESS than it was when the console was first built. here is a news flash for this guy, ALL consoles will eventually cost less than what they sell for!! i love how this guy actually put an exclamation point after that sentence. he made it sound as if microsoft and the 360 are screwing their customers by selling a console for MORE than it costs to make it, yet later points out that sony makes money on their hardware....yeah, this guy is a complete tool. it was an absolute waste of my time to read this stupid "article".....
Microsoft Corp., the world's leading maker of software, is earning money selling the Xbox 360 hardware, according to updated teardown analysis from research firm iSuppli. http://www.n4g.com/industry...
Your comment is absolutely true. That part of his article is false. Other then that, I too agree the PS3 is a rock solidly built machine. Now for some games to come *rolls eyes*
600 bucks well spend..nuff said
its all about quality.if you guys have the 360 and died on you in a year, maybe a few weeks or months..how about all the other upcomin 360 games? the only way you can play it is gettin it fixed..microsoft is goin to charge you money for it..just screw the 360..PS3 fans is thinkin about long term enjoyment while xbots just want to get the games and the system for cheap price and play it.. to xbots i hope your system long last enough before halo 3 and mass effect comes out..lol..
Because PS2 has sold almost 120 million! XD I mean, how can it be possible that 360 has as many defective consoles as a PS2 when it hasn't even sold a tenth of that?
Theres one big difference, 1. Sony fixed the PS2 DRE problem not to far from its launch and 2nd Microsoft knows about these problems and refuses to do anything about it, which if they keep doing will make the PS2 DRE problem look like nothing, and out of 120Million or whatever sold PS2's I doubt the problem is as big as the 360's, because its not like even if the PS2's are still selling today the problem is still there and strong like it was back at its launch.
While I won`t comment on the Ps3, the Ps1/Ps2 was a peice of sh1t!! It broke on me 4 times!!! Each time with the same problem, disc read error!!!! Now on the other hand, I`ll have to agree that the 360 while a great console, isn`t as reliable as it should be! Let`s see if the epoxy glue that they have put around the chips in my Elite in fact hold! Well, that`s my take on this topic.
surely the build quality would have been better, the early batch of products are clearly rushed out looking at the large number of failures posted on the internet. What always has been a risk for early adapters. Yeah sony's ps3 seemingly doesn't have a large number of failing consoles but it had a good year of extra testing. The new batches of Xbox 360 don't seem to have such a high failure rate, so people who are scared of failing Xbox 360 should just look for the most recent versions.
It's really too hard to tell what would be different if the 360 launched later, at least as far as manufacturing goes. The construction of the 360 seems to just be a business decision (as opposed to an engineering decision) to keep costs down. So I don't think that would change, regardless of when it was launched. I live near Redmond, (Microsoft campus) and had an opportunity to speak with a few guys who worked there. One mentioned that it was the actual construction itself, rather than the parts.
Everyone knows sony is good at making their hardware, and infact they didnt have no extra year, since the PS3 was suppose to launch in 2005 of spring, it launched Nov 2006, so inorder for it to have an extra year it would have had to launch spring of 2006. And as for Microsoft people knew they rushed it, xbox360 was suppose to launch in 06 but they decided, "Hey you know what, sony is still putting their system together, lets just get ours out there just to do a head start, I mean there wont be another console out on the market for months,so ours will sell well." Well it did sell well but at a cost, and you are seeing it here today whether it has happend to you or not.
its common sense. Sony knows how to make hardware and they know how to do it really well. My PSX my original square gray PSX still works :) My original PS2 the black square system still works :) My PSP the original PSP although I completely shattered the screen still works but only half of the screen works though since It fell on a crowbar :( but it works :) My second PSP still works :) My xbox is dead :(
Both systems generate an obscene amount of heat, and the PS3 has only been out since fall. Eventually PS3s are going to start failing too... You all whine about them dying but the recommended playing time in the manual is alot lower than previous systems (ie. xbox, ps2, gamecube). They need add-on fans, because clearly the ones inside are not sufficient enough. It's just like a high end gaming PC, you need to have temp control, bigger fans, etc. The fan I have on my PS3 cools it significantly and I had a fan on my 360 3 days before my wife complained about the noise and I removed it. Sure enough the 360 died within that 3 day period. This article is nothing more than a fanboy attempt at stirring the rebels.
"...I like sony because I haven’t had a SINGLE issue with their products. All of Sony’s products do exactly what they are supposed to do, and they do everything quite well." So those exploding batterys were suppose to explode ?
sony products are the most reliable, an incident with faulty manufacturing lithium-ion batteries doesn't mean all of sony's products are faulty. The lithium ion batteries were recalled after a few incidents, its not like all the batteries exploded on people.
The batteries where used by dell and and other laptop manufacturers. Sony messed up on that one. That was the only issue Sony had in a decade.
it's no secret the PS3 on an overall scale is built better than the 360 (though i can't speak from a personal perspective as I don't own a PS3 yet and my launch 360 has been doing what I paid $400 for it to do) Hopefully MS gets on the ball and fixes the overheating problem since that seems to be the main causes of RRoD (i have no doubt that they will) How quick do we all forget Sony went from 2000-2003 shipping PS2's with faulty lenses that caused DDE's and DRE's and it took a class action lawsuit for them to fess up and provide free repairs up until 2005... let's give MS that same chance to correct their manufacturing errors (and hopefully this is what will happen with the 65-nm chips in the CPU & GPU this fall)
x360 has amazing build quality. x360 has lower failure rate then ps2/ps3/GC/Wii/xbox. x360 doesn`t scratch discs. x360 is a silent console due it`s 16x dvd-rom. x360 doesn`t have problems with heat. x360 is very comfort console, because it`s power adapter isn`t inside console. yeah, i wish all consoles would be like x360, it is ideal peace of hardware! p.s. just smile, and give my bubbles back! =))
Your such an ass, lol. Good for a laugh but I don't know about a bubble...I'm afraid of the terror you will inflict on us if you had 5 bubbles...Oh what the hell I'll give you a bubble, please use it wisely :)
Was that a joke?? haha
u r the man... u allways say the truth .. thank .. bubble for u and Crazzy :P u r fan of good games not any console. :) u and Deep and some others rock in this site.. keep posting dude
Thanks man I appreciate that...I love my playstation too much to be one-sided. bubble fest though...bubbles for you. Haha and it's funny that you mentioned "deep" because me and him PM message all the time about games
i cant wait to get my ps3 - next saturday. i would have been very worried about it breaking if it had such bad reports as the 360. thats what has discouraged me getting a 360. i cant believe some people just allow microsoft to do this, 2 years later. if everybody stood up to them instead of just letting it be then something would be done.
...is a tool.
Is there ANY question as to which has the better build quality?
I have to agree, this time around it goes to sony; they've obviously learned after years of crashing consoles that they have to release a machine with superior build quality. Unfortunately they released it a year later than the competition and included a drive that caused the price to go through the roof outside the US and Japan.
next gen costs $600 last gen 1.5 costs $299,$399 and $479. I don't know why people expect a massive jump in console power to still cost $300.
People forget the psx had to be turned on it's side after 1 year to get it to work... Not fauling the ps3 because so far so good but the 360 is the worst peice of console hardware ever constructed. No other console has had it this bad. Serieously. I have 360 and I have returned it 3 times. You can't tell me that I'm an isolated case. I bet the 360 return rate is about 50%. Everyone can't make consoles like Nintendo. Game wise, i love my 360. I just hope it stays working.
lmao i forgot about that... so the lens could float better... I had to do that or else the voice overs in Resident Evil would be choppy... ahh... memories
he really only has a little bit of info on that in particular? I thought he was at least going to go into detail.
OMG the guy who wrote this, must be a nr. 1 Sony fandroid Really... PS2's are known to have the less quality drives off all times. So many PS2's broke down in no time. Sony denied the problem and many had to buy their second, third etc. console there. Overal Sony's lasers from drives are known to be sh!tty quality of all their drives. So beware of the BluRay in PS3. And lets not start about the PSP's. So many with dead pixels, compleet DOA and all the problems with pixel related issues with Sony. First they didn't want to replace the PSP's at all. Now they have a limited pixel resolving program. I know exactly two persons with a PS3. One is a reviewer and just got it recently for the EUrope PS3 launch. Other is working @ a company for wireless game connections and have one there at work. That one got so freakin hot they really could use it as a grill. It died after 2 days or so. What about the millions of Vaio Sony laptops that had exploding batteries? Yup, real QUALITY stuff there! Oh and lets not start about the build architecture of the PS3, with a GPU integrated at the last moment because they found out the Cell couldn't overtake all CPU and GPU tasks like they intended first. Cell was too weak for it. So they went out with a bag of money and Nvidia said we have this PC thing not new, not specially developed for you, but we can integrate it somehow in your already drawn out PS3. So they got a last minute put together machine of components that doesn't have an optimal mix like the 360 has with a special build CPU, GPU etc. just for having the most optimal gaming machine.
Poor Marty...the title of the article should tell you what this is about...360 vs PS3 build quality. Not PS2. Not PSP. Not laptop batteries. Not design philosophies.
You can't expect such a fanboy like mart to stay on topic, exspecially when he nothing in his defense...
"360 has with a special build CPU, GPU etc." Special Build CPU for 360? PowerPc? Apple computer has used PowerPC chip for years for their computer. They switched to Intel... Xbox 360 is like old Apple G5 computer...3 years old...or maybe 2...
microsoft employees bought the system,took it back to redmond and opened it up. 1st ms engineer:"wow!"" ;look at the build quality!" 2nd ms engineer:"wow!"" ;look at the huge fan to keep it cool." 1st ms engineer:"wow!"" ;and feel how cool it is while running." 2nd ms engineer:"wow!"" ;and you can barely hear it while on." both engineers:"wow!"sony really knows(interupted) bill gates:"shut the f*ck up!""you're both fired!""anyone else got something to say?!""say it now!" 3rd engineer:"maybe...they could make our next system?"
for having faith in my baby. I built it with you in mind and all of the things you like to do.lol “As SCE enters its second decade, we need to reinforce our games development power and create new entertainment experiences that will bring out the best of the technology in platforms such as PSP ® (PlayStation ® Portable), PLAYSTATION ® 3, and beyond, ... PlayStation, favored by 200 million people all over the world, and Phil's strong leadership combined, I am confident that the power of our development studios are further empowered to create more new and innovative titles.” I promise to bring you all (even you marty, my discombobulated Dutch Nemesis) the games that YOU have been accustomed to playing as par