The latest "celebrity" to be subpoenaed by Erik Estavillo? None other than Microsoft Chief Bill Gates.
how could microsoft make gamers happy? Offer a problem free 360 conole with natal for free to all current 360 owners. This could turn the whole game around. If they could put out a series of AAA titles in 2010 at full price they could still make a good profit if they used this strategy. Maybe go from last place to first.
Did you just say MS give away something to all current 360 owners and then follow up with the word profit? I think you even said first place? I know its early and we all just got out of our dream world... but have a cup of coffee and come back to reality with the rest of us and lets talk about the issue at hand: The faulty hardware case that is finally building steam 3 years late.
Give all current 360 owners 360s? You're not making sense.
Your asking a company that charges for playing online to give something for free? Really? They already do their best with the 3 year warranty, some may argue that's not good enough but you generally know what your getting into by now when you purchase a console, its like picking a car from a car company.
MS is having the worst year ever: 360 loses the holiday with halo, 1m bans, black screen windows 7, and Bill gets a subpoena...lol
Are you serious Pennywise this guy has no case at all and he's representing himself. this is the same person suing Sony(for banning him) and Nintendo(for removing his backup loader).
HILARIOUS... you really live in a world with Pink clouds and rainbows everywhere lol That's never GONNA HAPPEN, you have to say thanks for the "3 years warranty" to the lawsuit attempt against M$ for all the RRODs cases
I was a huge Xbox fan and when I went to upgrade to a 360, I heard rumblings on the net that there were some serious issues. Microsoft repeated that there were no problems and I, figuring it was just a noisy minority, went ahead and bought my shiny, new Xbox 360. Since then it's been a horrible experience. 4 consoles later I've lost countless hours on the phone with Microsoft fighting with them when my consoles died, fighting with them to get my money back both times they extended the warranty, fighting with them to take back a disk gouging unit they sent me as a replacement after it ruined three of my games. It's been brutal. I spent over $900 on that blasted console. Paying for the launch console, paying for extra controllers, paying for charge and play kits, paying for XBL, paying for more batteries when the first ones stopped holding a charge, paying for a wireless adapter, paying for the extended warranty because disk gouging isn't covered by the 3 year warranty, even when it's a replacement unit they send you. What I'm left with is a console no longer under warranty that I'm afraid to play. Had Microsoft not lied to consumers in the first place there's no way I would have spent a dime on the shoddy hardware until they fixed the problem. I have no sympathy for XBox owners who get burned with RROD now because it's well known, but back during the first year Microsoft flat out lied. They duped consumers into buying their product with false promises of reliable hardware and they should be held to account for it, because they knew damn well there were serious issues. Surely to god the US has some sort of legal protection or lemon law or something to protect consumers from lying corporations. Back when Sony had read errors on the PS2 they were taken to court and ended up replacing units, refunding repair costs, giving free games and shelling out $25 to each effected user. Why the f**k hasn't Microsoft been forced to clean up their act with the 360? They haven't even fixed the problem yet! Edit: But let me tell you how I really feel. Yeesh! Sorry for the rant there.
They deserve this heat. My first 360 lasted 8 months before RROD. I have the original Playstation that still works and my Master system for that matter.
"The subpoena instructs Gates to bring “documents pertaining to the true and relative number of actual Xbox 360 units that have been fixed by Microsoft over the past 3 years.” Estavillo is also seeking statistical data showing the true number of Xbox 360s that experienced the RROD (or other break-downs) and data on the actual number of people banned from Xbox Live for “piracy” over the period of 11/28/2008 through 11/28/2009." Sounds reasonable to me. keeping such data secret should be made illegal.
WHAT? lol hahahahahah what.
This guy is a nut case, But blame the system for not seeing this guy for what he is and until this happens he will continue sue companies, he will try to sue a chair company if he stubs his toe on it.
What's wrong with wanting to know the amount of Xbox 360s that has died the dreaded and torture RROD?
what would be the gain? To know exact numbers would do what for this guy? Make him feel good about himself? I think people like him keep this going because he doesnt know any better. Its old news. YLOD is the new thing and people are trying to cover it up with more old RROD stories. People should just let this fade away like the ps2 dre finally did.
No.. Its NOT the new thing lol...
Actually, the true numbers of the RROD consoles would strengthen the case that ANY 360 user has in terms of whether or not MS has indeed released a faulty product. There are consumer standards that electronics must meet and IF 360 is NOT up to standards...MS should be made to get them up to standard and not just keep putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound. If this were Sony and it was YLOD at the same alarming rate I would be saying the same thing. If it was Nintendo and...whatever could go wrong...I would STILL stand by this. It is NOT a fanboy thing...it is protecting the consumer from gouging the hell out of us with no regard for quality assurance and customer satisfaction.
Those are actual numbers I'd like to see. I've had two 360's RRoD on me. I'm interested in how many "exactly" have sh!t the bed. I'd don't care about the legal side of this story, at all, but the way we're always given percents of, instead of the actual numbers ( which I'm sure is staggering ) makes me want to know the exact truth. That's all. Just the facts, and as a 360 consumer, I feel I'm entitled.
...Gates does turn up with factual statistics on RROD numbers. Then what? I think the best that will happen is that MS will be forced to extend the warranty period for RROD.
They could be forced to comply all of the way up to and including a TOTAL recall of 360's sold within a certain time period. Doubt it WILL happen, but that is a possibility.
oh this is just silly. the American judicial system is so faulty to allow a massive tard like this be allowed to make a case
that way microshaft cant put out such a peice of crap next time. protection for consumers.
As much as i dislike Microsoft Bill Gates lawyers are gonna crush this pathetic parasite.
360 fuccen SUCKS!
RROD!... The long term effects still Haunts MS even now, and now this is affecting MS's Father... he green lighted the XBOX 360 project and look what happened.. classic case senario, the Tortise and the Hare...
Sevir you make no sense in your post good job on that part. Long term effects of what? RROD? That has already been sorted out by now and I have NOT hard as big of a pandemic as opposed to 07. I agree with darth.. Msoft gave a 3 yr warranty for the RROD and gave you a new console for FREE, same cant be said about the YLOD on the ps3. It's kind of funny thought how the ps3 fanboys always bring up how bad the 360 is basing it on the RROD controversy YET they are fine and dandy with the YLOD on the ps3 hardware ohhh and what's even funnier is that they would RATHER fix it themselves THEN send it into SONY, ohh and you have to pay for it no warranty. Fanboys make no sense....
Um, they had to do that, otherwise they would have gotten sued up the ass. You really should be asking *why* this should be happening in the first place. The 360 breakage should be at respectable levels, not like this. The RROD is what kept me from buying a 360 period.
YLOD happens to less than 2% of ps3s...RROD happens to over 30%...maybe even closer to 50% according to latest figures. M$ is FORCED to give replacements...cause they released faulty hardware on purpose.
The "3YR Warranty" is only for the U.S that I know of, and possibly a couple more countries but MANY other countries only get "6 Months Warranty" from the supplier.
Let's get it straight! 3 year warranty was to prevent lawsuits NOT to please customers. That was great to supply a quick fix, but it would have been better to actually and completely fix the issue or at least bring it within industry standards. You don't actually get promised a NEW system...you get ANOTHER system (probably a refurbished one). The simple fact is RROD SHOULDN'T be that big of an issue. The fact that it IS, let's you know that it is relevant. Oh, and so you know. IF the PS3 had the same issues (i.e., if most of my friends list has had one YLOD). I would have the same issue. It is really about what you allow as a customer. The more that you allow, the more that large companies (MS, Sony, and Nintendo) will try to get away with.
the disagreements?,this poor execuse of a so called gamer also sued Sony,Nintendo,and even the developers of WOW.i hope the judge throws this obvious attempt to get some quick cash out.
Pineapple Express subpoena quote: "You've just been served"
Kid has no chance against Sony and Nintendo, but it'll be interesting to see what comes out of this particular case. Even if he loses, seeing some actual numbers will be really nice.
After 5 faulty systems that don't even last a year i want an answer out of all this RROD stuff I can see this as a legit case.
A dad of my friend just got his 360 burned out (RROD) and this was the original purchase back in 2005. They should consider re-calling all systems and have a do-over.
They SHOULD have recalled them 3 years ago.
Why recall when you can slap a 3 year warranty on a product and be congratulated for customer care rather than chastised for NEEDING to extend the warranty? I'm actually glad the Wii came out, no way should the 360 be the market leader in any capacity. Microsoft have a lot to learn.
remember Mr. Bill "XBOX 360 FAILURE RATES ARE WITHIN INDUSTRY STANDARDS' go spin this anyway you want...but MS openly lied and it cost them a billion bucks of your money to back their way out.. I so hope MS gets sued to the nth degree....justice served..
frivolous suits for what? attention whore.
but its still more dependable than an xbox 360...bomberman, ninja spirit, lords of thunder anyone? yea i still play em woot!
I have an NES, SNES, Genesis, Saturn, Dreamcast, PS1-3, all of them have worked since launch. With the 360 youre lucky if it lasts a year.
dude u so right. my third 360 just die last week n, no more warranty so am of luck. the 360 truly is a faulty system.
thats what happens when you have a VP that an engineer said the yields werent high enough and too many faulty units are coming off the line and the VP says "ship them anyways, we have to get them out" naturally that was going to come back to haunt any company
Hate on Erik Estavillo all you want. just understand that he is a hero to the Consumer.
If Mr. Estavillo can even get Gates near a deposition room I would be impressed. Rest assured N4G, some very good attorneys are working on a Motion to Quash the subpoena as we speak.
BUT HALO REACH BUT BUT BUT
some bitter fony fanboy tryin to make news....AGAIN but its getting way too old. No system is perfect anyway we all know that. I havent heard of rrod case for ages and i know lot of people with xbox yet i still hear people havin probllems with blu ray laser unit.
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