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Gamers, R U OK? Real Relationships Important

OXCGN supports R U OK? Day, discussing if gamers often have depressive tendencies and how gamers can help those who may be struggling:

"I have never seriously considered suicide, though I've reached some pretty low lows. However, there are more than 2000 people a year in Australia, higher than the national road toll, who have not only considered it, but gone through with it, leaving devastated families behind.

The worldwide figure would be shocking.

And gamers could be at greater risk due to a higher likelihood of suffering depression and introversion."

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BadCircuit3158d ago

I have a father who is sick and he plays games to escape I think. I feel bad for him but often don't know what I could say or do for him.

This was good to see.

Saaking3158d ago

Play some games with him and just have a good time. He may be sick, but that doesn't and shouldn't prevent him from enjoying a great life.

Zedux3158d ago (Edited 3158d ago )

2000 only! not bad if you compare that with India and Japan where guys will jump from a building if a girl says no to them or if you working too much or got low scores you just take your own life those numbers are ok!
i guess no one would be left in my neighborhood if it was India or Japan lol!!

Nihilism3158d ago (Edited 3158d ago )

"2000 only",

Australia has the highest suicide rate in the world, i don't think 'only' applies

You also shouldn't judge people's reasons for doing those thing. In Japan their entire lives are competitive because of overpopulation. A typical japanese student could expect to go to a private school, have summer school, home tutors, then mandatory university study. They study and work their entire lives to make their way. They can't just sit on their asses and walk into a job like people in the west. The japanese governement has expressed their wish to halve the population of japan by 2050

sikbeta3158d ago

God, lets stop talking about death, We are young and have plenty of time to live a great LIFE

lightningsax3158d ago (Edited 3158d ago )

@Dchalfont - Wow, where in the West can one just walk right into a job? I'd like to move there. Just finishing a very practical Master's degree, but the job markets are constricting quite a bit, and some of my hardest-working friends are still finding it tough to get that entry-level position.

I understand what you're saying. Japan does have an extremely competitive culture, but keep in mind that they're expecting numbers to go down quite a bit soon: http://www.google.com/hoste...

gaminoz3158d ago

@ sikbeta

I can see why you wouldn't want to talk about something negative like that, but the whole point is that people are suffering and they need to talk to other people about it.

You may be in a good place, but not everyone is and though it might seem a 'downer' it is kindness to listen to someone who may be in a hard place.

@ Saaking

Great advice mate.

Bubbles_Kitty_Cat3158d ago

The only time I feel suicidal is when someone steals my crate in Modern Warfare 2. :D

Tony P3158d ago

Good article. I think it's pretty spot on.

Totally off topic: Am I the only one who thinks "Busta Wolf!" after reading the title?

DeadlyFire3157d ago

I have always had trouble connecting with people. Maybe its just irrational anxiety and fears though that I have built up over time. For as long as I can remember though I have always been silent around people. I am 22 years old and only in the past 6-8 months have I ever really tried to connect with people. Its hard when many don't want to talk to me. I have gotten a couple old classmates to say a few words though. I think I might have some sort of mental problem though. Like Asperger's Syndrome or something.

BadCircuit3157d ago

I'm a bit like you...my parents are always on my case to be more social but I don't really like talking. I'm happy to listen to my friends and answer but I don't like being the center of attention. I'm trying to be more social though.

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Godem3158d ago

Personally, i think its the other way around for me sometimes, I get depressed when im playing a game, when I should be out and about.

gaminoz3158d ago

That's interesting. You are forcing yourself to play a game? Must not be AC 2 or Uncharted 2 then! lol.

Godem3158d ago

haha, nah more like when friends go out on a Thursday night, but I stay in because I just purchased Uncharted 2 :)

table3158d ago

yeah I know what you're saying mate. sometimes i question why i waste my time on games and i feel bad in myself for not doing something more constructive.

AKNAA3158d ago

Anytime I feel depressed playing games when I should be out on a saturday night, I just stop playing and watch a comedy movie instead(like mr.bean). That kinda helps a bit...

lightningsax3158d ago (Edited 3158d ago )

This thread, particularly Aknaa's comment, rings true in my own life and in many people that I know, gamers or not. Gaming might increase isolation and lead to depression in some individuals, but guilt is a much worse culprit.

I remember days when I'd stay inside playing games and at some point I'd think to myself, "I should be out on the town like everyone else, that's what regular people do on Saturday nights." Thinking that you're supposed to do something just because it seems to be a societal norm can be incredibly destructive - maybe you're out every Saturday night and getting nothing out of it, or you're inside wondering why you're not out there, or wishing you were someone else. You start feeling guilty, like you're not the paragon of a human being that the rest of the world apparently is being 24/7.

It's always good to ask basic questions at that point. Why do people go out every Saturday night? Aren't they just escaping their natural feelings of being alone in the world and having to work too much? *Do* people that share my interests actually go out? Do people that supposedly live it up out there enjoy their time? Is it really wrong that I'm not surrounding myself with people constantly? Isn't that just another escape?

Realizing that stuff just *is* and doesn't have to be perfect may be the best thing to do sometimes. Not that socializing isn't good, or that any of the stuff you're not doing doesn't have value, but there's also good and bad socializing, isn't there? There's also good and bad gaming - when I reach the point when I'm asking myself "Why the heck am I still playing this game?" it's time to stop.

You can strike a balance. What's the problem with jamming out to Rock Band or having a L4D2 party? Heck, bring your fellow geeks over and have a Demon's Souls drinking game - drink every time you die (actually, that would probably kill everyone, bad idea!). Then go do something non-gaming-ish. There's nothing wrong with gaming, but feeling like you're doing it because you're inferior to everyone else is destructive.

DRUDOG3158d ago

/Stands and applauds.

Awesome comment. So true. I've been on both sides of the fence and can say that sometimes you just know it when you need to get out. Other times don't stress over it and enjoy the life you want to lead not the life you think your supposed to because of what others do.

Lightningsax summed it up perfectly and I couldn't have said it better.

Shotgun_Roamer3158d ago

i agree, sometimes my best laid plans to get a platinum trophy are thwarted by the realization that there has to be something more productive i can be doing.

Prototype3158d ago

I'd rather play games than hang out and here's why:

1. Keeps me out of trouble
2. Controllable spending limit
3. Something for everyone
4. Keeps my mind off daily stress and work
5. Never have to worry about having any type of dispute

Yes I still occasionally go out, I do have a few people I can hang out with, no I never dated (and will be 28 soon) and yes I have a good paying job with my own place.

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Lou Ferrigno3158d ago

if your a WoW geek then i can understand lol they even have WOW therapists for fvck sake

gaminoz3158d ago (Edited 3158d ago )

I'm not into that scene, but I can understand how real life can suck enough to want to pretend your way into a fantasy life.

It generally doesn't help though.

In China they have militaristic rehab centres where they send game addicts: you see the 1 child policy means that they often don't have connections with siblings. The few I saw interviewed didn't want to leave even though the place was harsh because they had made real friends.

That's not to say that playing games makes you depressed, it's just that some use it to escape much more than others. And online "trash talk" isn't exactly connection...

Saaking3158d ago

I really don't understand what's so great about WoW. I tried the trial, played it maybe 2 hours and I didn't even like it. I don't get how people can waste their lives on it.

Nitrowolf23158d ago

i know what u mean saaking
i mean i can't sit there and hope i kill a creature just to get XP, thats seems a bit boring to me since it just point and click. Obviouse for those into it allotr there is more, but i dont see the point either but vise vera they to do not see the point in our type of games. Say i like shooters or adventure to them those could be the most boring games ever. Its the same for what ever game you get sucked into they get sucked into WoW. i can't stand that game though\

kaveti66163158d ago

A year ago a friend of mine gave me a 10-day trial for WoW and I activated it and created an account (I was like a walking bull or something), and I just wanted to see what all the fuss was about, and I got hooked into the game like crazy. As much as I could say to myself, "This game is stupid," I couldn't stop playing it. I spent so much time just doing quests and killing wild beasts to raise my XP, and I couldn't think of doing anything else. Finally, when my 10 days were up, I became enraged. For a few days all I did was beg my friend for another trial code. And then after a while I started concentrating on my schoolwork again and I felt free of WoW.

Now that I look back on it, I realize that I was so lucky to not have got caught up in that game. And considering there are millions of players who spend so much of their lives and their money on this thing, I now agree that it is becoming a serious problem.

ZombieAutopsy3158d ago (Edited 3158d ago )

Ive lost a few good soldiers to WoW...may their souls burn forever in the depths of hell. I too was given a 10 day trial to WoW and did use it all but after it was up i was happy to go back to playing single player RPG's and a few choice FPS's. I think with WoW it either really draws people in or they just think meh, most of the people i know that play it say its because its like a whole other world and that it never gets old because their is always something to do.

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XboxOZ3603158d ago

Excellent article covering a very real and relative subject.

Australian's in particular do not like discussing their personal issues very much at all. And it's oftn not until almost too late before they do, if they do.

Gamers, are workers, husbands, mothers, sons daughters and the extended family. While you may not be suffering some form of depression or anxiety, many are.

All it takes is an understanding 'friend' to help them understand that someone cares.

You do NOT have to fix it for them, all you need to do is 'listen' without trying to fix "it".

table3158d ago (Edited 3158d ago )

I think a lot of it is a case of men not wanting to discuss their feelings because it isn't macho. If you look at who is mainly at risk of suicide it is men between the ages of 18 and 24, and of course the vast majority of gamers are men. It's not always a case of listening, sometimes people who are too embarrassed to talk about it will give subconscious signals that they need help you just have to be aware of what to look for when someone is suffering from depression in order to help them. It's a tragic illness really.

Nihilism3158d ago (Edited 3158d ago )

I'm definitely a depressive person. I don't know what i'd do without gaming, and sadly n4g also. I have moved a few times since finishing highscool in 2003, I moved 1000km's from where I used to live, because my gf had to go there for her law degree, I have lived here 2 years and don't know a single person, i'm studying distance ed atm. I would lose my mind if i didn't have games to kill time

gaminoz3158d ago

Well you are in good company. The article had a link to another article about the subject and in it is this quote:

"A lot of highly-intelligent people are prone to depressions, and gamers seem particularly so"

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