The debut of Forza Motorsport 2 was unable to trigger a sales spike for Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360 in Japan.
no surprise there
Japs don't ever seem to change.
I wonder what kind of affect Halo 3 will have in Japan?????
Please don't use that derogatory term in here.
agree with ITR
Nothing will change their view on the 360. Halo may be big here, but over there it can easily be brushed off by the gaming population.
nice changed pic of bender lol
but getting back to the topic, yeh i am woundering how Halo 3 will do in Japan.... i mean there has been tons of news about the beta etc, and surely there has been copies of Crackdown sold in Japan so some of them must have played the beta.... ohwell i spose its just a matter of waiting and finding out when the news is posted.
and then say "no you aint getting it "
like cartmans themepark.
reverse sycolagy lol, mite just work ;)
Kinda premature hmmm?
It released on the 24..but some stores didn't get copies until the 25th.
I'd give it another week.
According to VGCharts last week the 360 was up 23%.
It basically gained 537 units.
The 360 is pretty close to selling 3k a week now.
seems such a little ammount when you compared it to the DS/DS Lite doesnt it.
ohwell, i am going to be buying this, look forward to racing against who ever gets it.
Was it expected to?
Edit: who disagreed with me? I was asking a simple and fair question, not making any statement.
Well it did get 9/9/9/9 and a rare platinum award from famitsu. I would have thought this would have bought a little mindshare in japan...
Thanks for responding, it bothers me when someone disagrees and doesn't explain why (I'm not saying your the one who disagreed with me in the first place).
i personally would wait until its been out over in Japan for a week at least. and i dont know if it was suppose to make an impact in Japan, but i am sure looking forward to it.
The pattern i noticed is that if the game isnt an huge Japanese style game but still liked it will gain ground as its popularity grows from word of mouth; its racing come on people, could the Japanese like flashy arcady games like TDU better?. The Xbox isnt mainstream enough lol.
Why they have to buy a 360 for a game ? even thought this game is not better than Grand turismo HD ! They'll buy a PS3 if they want a good game
Thats a rather narrow minded view point. Forza does play better than GTHD might not look as good though. I agree with ITR lets give it another week. If blue dragon couldnt move consoles and Forza can't move consoles then nothing will.
you forget he is just a SonyFanboy/girl
Xsux360 we know something made you not like the Xbox 360, so why not just stay out of here IF your not going to make any decent comments, oh and if you did make decent comments instead of fanboy/girl comments you mite end up getting a bubble back, i know im not going to hit good feedback when you make stupid comments like that.
This game is a fucin thrill playing it online knowing if you make one misstake you're finished nothing can match the heart pumping thrills trying to take somebody around a corner with brain power and fenesse; Nothing! Mua hahahahahahahaha!!!!.....haha. .. People tell me they cand put the pad down they're addicted in forza 2 lobbies.
I'm I the only one that think is hell of a coincidense that only Japanese consoles and only Japanese games sell well in Japan? (Please do not bring the ... japan likes ipod and mcdonals.. argument). I think it's obvious that they are loyal to their products and though a few may buy some 360.. it does not matter how many games microsoft releases it will not make a difference. It's obvious by now that Japan it's not needed for the game industry to support the xbox. Microsoft should simply forget Japan and invest the money they are wasting in bringings to the people that want it, if possible a price drop... and while they are at it... drop some insentives to congress to increase or double the tax on all imported product from Japan...
i've seen plenty of americans who only buy americans products. they's nothing wrong with it. its just pride in what u country makes thats all.
japan is needed. MS is to blame for xbox 360 failure in japan they simply suck at markting . they suck at adpting to other markets.their can't clean the mess they started with xbox .how do u explain sony and nintendo's success in the west its not like we are all japanese
Japan likes iPod and McDonalds!! LOL jk bro. Anyways, come on Blade, this shouldn't become some political BS just because Japan doesn't like a game system you like. I'm with Silent on this one. I mean, yes Japan likes there Japanese made products. SO? Last I heard us American's love American Muscle cars. And we believe our Muscle cars can beat Japan's technology cars any day. It's called being patriotic. You can't blame them.
And do you expect Japan to go out and get 360's left and right just cause the 360 has 2 or 3 Japanese type games? Micro has no reputation in Japan like Nin and Sony. When they start making games Japan wants, Japan will buy. I'm thinking when Last Remnant comes out, sales of the 360 will rise. Don't blame Japan for not wanting games they don't want to play. Well that's just my humble opinion.
P.S. JAPAN NOT NEEDED FOR THE GAMING INDUSTRY!? Dude seriously, come on now.
Who likes Americans? lol It's not just the japanese blade. Blame those who have voted for Bush twice.
Microsoft doesn't just throw 50 million to both Square and Konami to get FF13 and Metal Gear exclusive......or even 100 million. It would have insured the XBOX success. With the initial losses in their game divisions being so high already, Im sure it wouldn't have made much of a difference and would have been easily recovered with sales of these titles. It isn't like they don't have the money. Personally I don't really care for these games but for the Japanese market it surely would have made a difference. I'm sure that is why Itakagi favors XBOX platforms, bc Microsoft floated him some green.
it would't surprise me if Micro already tried. True, everybody has a price. But maybe Square/Konami's price was too much for Micro to pay. I know I know, deep pockets. But maybe they asked for something Micro couldn't or wouldn't want to give. Just a thought and just my humble opinion bro.
And, believe it or not, many game developers aren't easily swayed, especially by Microsoft.
but isn't Japan into games that are so far removed from reality? I mean common seriously. They spawn anime and games that you have to be on shrooms to think up. Forza is all about reality racing... technical driving with real to life physics. The japanese gamers are into fruity rpgs, brain training games, quirky platformers, and futuristic arcady racers. They aren't going to pick up Forza because they 'don't get it'. They jack off to hentai for cryin out loud... cartoons with pixalated vaginas. just stating the obvious. But back on subject... the reason why realistic shooters aren't popular in Japan holds true to realistic racers.
...don't be a child now. Gaming history is as much infront of you as is
infront of anybody else. Man, you talk 'Realistic':
-In current-gen, Gran Turismo series has been doing 500-700 physics
operations for each car and in GT4, around 750 cars, all realistic cars
from real world. Its a suiper duper Japanese hit, just think about
when GT series will debot on the next-gen !!!
-Shadow of the Colossus literally shadows next-gen games, its a great
hit in Japan and one of the biggest and best execution of all of next-
gen visual techniques done with extra super physics.
-Virtua Fighter series is the most 'realistic' fighting simulator out
there, its as complex as getting to learn the actual deal. A real
Japanese hit !
-You talk about 'realistic' shooter stuff, well talk about Europe's
Ratchet&Clank series of PS2 and its a major hit in Japan as well. MGS,
c'mon, didn't you know...MGS series has always been about complex
graphics, several simulation actions and more. An ultra hit in Japan !
-Resident Evil 4, DMC 4 all are 3rd person highly system using shooter games. Complex visual techniques, gameplay mechanics, texture
routines...you name it.
-Talk about RPGs, well you won't find more poly-filled RPGs elsewhere
than FF-XII and Rogue Galaxy at this hour.
-You talk about 'pixelated Vaginas', well, we all know America is the
biggest fan of that stuff with much greatest crime-rate that Japan or
any asian country.
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For Forza-2, well, read IGN's review, yes it might have good physics,
because its next-gen and 2nd year of 360 DA'?! but other appeal isn't
Quotes from IGN's review...
-"So Forza 2 has brilliant physics, great customization options, and
solid online play. So why isn't it earning greater esteem from IGN? As
I said early on, a racing game is about more than just the cars. Much
like its predecessor, Forza 2 lacks soul."
-"Forza 2 disappoints(artistically). It can't all be blamed on the
physics and framerate. The art style for Forza 2 is bland and the
colors in the realistic tracks are drab. Turn 10 dropped the ball
artistically, both in the tracks and in the menus."
-"Races take place only during the day and under perfect weather
conditions. The horizon is marred by a tremendous amount of jaggies as
aliasing issues persist in pretty much every area of Forza 2. Cars,
which are the showcase of the series, have some distracting jagged
edges. The real-time reflections sometimes stutter across hoods and
windows. With so much focus on accurate models, damage, and a fast
framerate, Forza 2 couldn't afford to render a dashboard camera,
easily the most immersive view possible in a racing title."
that's a very childish thing to said
Even if you don't understand a culture, don't bad mouth it
Is Halo big in Japan? Thought that FPS couldn't get off the ground there because you cannot see the character (and since the Japanese people are into characters and stuff...)
good question, and i honestly dont know, as i was not into Halo 1,2 but it will be very interesting to see what happens come September/October.
When Microsoft announced at E3 about "making it in Japan", I was more inclined to laugh than pay attention but after hearing the outline, I thought Mr Gates deserved a (very small) pat on the back, at the least for acknowleging that a stratagy was indeed required.
I have kept an eye on the situation and every step that has been made has been a step in the right direction.
with the introduction and announcement of several key Japanese figures and studios into the equation and with them some very much needed RPG's, more sales should have transpired.
Even the special box sets (and the Japanese love collectibles) failed to work but at least were implemented.
The truth it seems, as stated above, that they are an honorable people and where possible back their own product. Don't forget also that that game stores in Japan are full of many, many more games than ever made it to our shores but appealed strongly to the Eastern audience.
One or two of the right games are simply not enough. They want a guaranteed future, not a dangling carrot!
The real shocker is the PS3 situation at the moment because this seems to contradict some of the above. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if there was no Wii and PS3/360 were up against only PS2.
Trouble is we need to be five years from now to see why. Just have to wait see.
yeh, what i think we have to remember is that first its there "land" and before MS came into it, there was the success of the PS1.
so when the PS2 came out WITH a year advantage i wouldnt have thought the original Xbox would have sold at all (i dont know how many it sold it any) so now with MS releasing another Xbox its becoming... "known" more, so yeh i agree that we will have to wait. it will be interesting what happens when Sony discontinues the PS2.
also what will be interesting is when the next gen comes out. how will the Xbox 720(?) do? and what COULD be interesting is how the PS4 does.
i mean if MS does end up making a good impact on Japan in the next 4-5 years, then MAYBE they will be buying the next Xbox more then expected.
good point gta. It's more a battle of time then companies.
We all know 360 is on life support there in Japan. It'll probably keep at it's 3k a week or whatever for it's cycle. Is it a bad thing? Not really seeing that it has the US. MS has 2 times the amount of units in US then anywhere else. So I guess you can yell at Japan for only buying Japan, but looky here US seems to buy US more than the other territories as well.
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