Gameplayer argues the commercial merits of PS3 exclusivity for Haze and how such a ploy could blow up in Ubisoft's face.
I bet this BS gets approved..Simply Fud thats why I appove FUD 360 stories...So enjoy your towels and around Xmas u already have your red lights out.... Also this guy fails to mention that most new Ips arent good...look at gears it was a new Ip did great (it had great marketing and innovative gameplay ) Which this game has both of from wat I seen so this guy can blow a big fat....u know wat
i wouldnt say gears had innovative gameplay, just a fast paced RE4, but it is a ton of fun
well, Haze it's not exclusive to PS3 and like I stated on the report the article is based on a false assumption.
dont make this sight already worse that it's getting. HAZE may not be a no questions asked exclusive it is very much so a timed one, which still equates to exclusive time on the ps3 because the press release has the other 2 version coming out early spring next year. we know you love your 360 but dont go around bashing another because they love there choice of entertainment. devs seem to like working for the ps3 because all the major titles have ps3 as the common factor, unless MS goes out and purchases a few titles to keep them for exclusive... thats why Saints row was coming for ps3 and then got canned because pre production had already started with the same assessts on ps3 for saints row 2, so get over yourself, nobody here is calling you a F@G because you own a 360. you need to show some intelligence and stop acting like a damn 12 year old with this senseless name calling, are you an adult or are you still going through middle school?
We all know that it's a timed exclusive...
blowing up in ubisofts face??? isn't ubi making a 360 exclusive title also?? sounds like someone is mad that the ps3 gets ONE timed exclusive. its not like ubi is jumping ships. they figure 360 players will be playing halo and ubi wants haze to be the ps3 fps of september " so we have something to defend ourselves with when the leviathan known as HALO 3 combat evolved replaces gears as the weapon of choice for the majority of gamers"
EDIT: i see a disagree...i know , i know..there will also be heavenly sword , lair , warhawk, and some off the hook KZ2 gameplay but a great ps3 fps would be a great seller .
I only have a 360 and i wont have the time to play it. I can only get 4 games at a time from gamefly and ill have to coordinate halo 3, mass effect, assassins creed, bioshock, blue dragon, brothers in arms 3, and splinter cell, and lost odyssey. then next year we got fable and probley gears of war 2. id like them to release it in february or march add a little polish and give it to me then otherwise ill forget about it till later. still looks sick. i hope ms gets a stripped down version of crisis on 360. pc to 360 seems like the way to go now. better cause i dont wanna buy a new pc and crysis is so sick. haze looks nearly identical but nothing will beat the next generation of pc games.
VGCHART SONY DEFENCE FORCE <-- if that sh!t gets aproved then so does this
but free radical said it was an their the makers of the game not ubisoft, i geuss ppl just want to know how long will it be Exclusivity
too early to tell either way yet... wake me up when E3 is here
Letting the PS3 have exclusivity for a month or so would probably help Haze sell. Sony fans seem pretty hyped for this game. And I'm sure it probably wouldn't bother most 360 owners to wait a month or so and get a superior version of Haze, considering most will be playing Halo 3 anyway
I could careless where this one goes....
does the author realise that it was made PS3 timed exclusive so it wont have to compete with Halo 3 and fail miserably in the process right?
But I bet his blind fanboyis wont let him see past that...shame
Ubisoft was very smart with the desition, while releasing the game first on the PS3 they avoid the 360s Halo 3 effect and benefit from the PS3 need for games making Haze the PS3 "Halo 3", after all the halo 3 fuzz is over they release it on the 360 and get the devoted FPS fanbase on the 360
So Haze is a problem, unlike Splinter Cell conviction? Uh-huh. Then he proceeds to say "we don't have any solution". Thanks for your retarded unproductive argument, dipshiit. Ubisoft will make sure (not) to take it in mind.
Funny comments abound heheh.
It's a fence sitter, sure. The title is 'could be a mistake' though, and even as a timed exclusive Haze's ultimate sales figures would probably be better if it turned up on X360 at the same time.
P.S can anyone say anything without being called a fanboy nowadays.
What we know is that it will be some kind of PS3 exclusive, timed or not, and PS3 will be the superior version.
Now, this would be anything but a mistake, taking advantage of the superior hardware is important. I don't see why this @$$hole focuses on how much it'll sell rather than how good the game will be. That's what we care about as gamers. It's rare that a good game doesn't sell, so don't pull that "if it doesn't sell well we won't get a sequel" crap. And appeal is finite no matter what the install base - see Okami and PS2.
The PS3 wasn't designed with gaming as it's primary focus. The Cell was put in the PS3 to be the imaging device for the blu-ray player. I know that some people might not like this, but the Cell isn't best suited for gaming applications. It's best suited for streaming video imaging. The Cell runs the blu-ray movies, and game graphics are run entirely on the RSX. I won't even go into how much of a disadvantage the Cell has in the general purpose processing department. The graphics produced on the PS3 will only go as far as the RSX can take them.
As for the 360, in a nutshell it was partially designed by game developers, so you can count on the lions share of games to be superior on 360.
Since when is it guarenteed that the PS3 will have a superior version. Certainly not based on whats happened so far is it!!
Get a grip.
Releasing Haze at the same time Halo 3 is released on the 360,Halo 3 would pwnd Haze.
Pure and simply,360 gamers want Halo,not Haze,but who knows about Haze exclusitivity on the PS3 being a mistake?
I think not,because PS3 gamers won't have a great shooter until sometime next year(MGS4,Killzone 2,Resistance 2???),so I wouldn't bet on it being a mistake.
Haze will sell on the PS3.
I agree. I don't really see how it could hurt Ubi either. There seems to be alot more PS3 fans excited for Haze than 360 fans, so it's bound to sell pretty good on the PS3. While I'm sure that Haze will sell well on the 360. I don't see how it could hurt to let PS3 fans have it a month or so earlier than 360 fans, considering most will be playing Halo 3 anyway.
I know PS3 owners signed a petition to make this game exclusive. What would happen if 360 owners signed a pledge to not buy this game at all if it was a PS3 exclusive. Which voice would be heard louder? Just curious. lol.
Im a ps3 fan.. but ur comment is funny .. nice one :P (when u have more good FPS u can make this joke :) )
anyway Im waiting for E3 and KILLZONE ... killzone wont be a reply to HALO .. Killzone will be a reply to crysis :D ...
HAZE doesnt that Huge.. its just a FPS with some new elements.. Gears was a real innovation not HAZE...
I'm guessing they forgot about Halo3. The reason to delay on 360 is so the market is more open and they can get MORE sales on the 360...whilst also getting exclusive time on the PS3 to get more interest there. What they are doing is having their cake and eating it...
you basically contradicted yourself. the xbox360 and the ps3 architect is very similar both CPU have power pc as the main core, the only differnce in the 360 is that it has 3 where the ps3 has 1 power pc ppU and 7 SPE, each of which have demonstrated time and time again that they can run graphics buy them self. as a matter of fact the ps3 was originally suppose to use only the cell because of how it can do intense graphics and physical calcluation, the RSX ( a seperate GPU was designed to take that graphics calculation Load of the cell so it can consentraet more on physics and mapping and genral purpose processing, which is why you see game like Lair and HAZE and DRAKE, Rachet and clank pwning the likes of some of the more stellar 360 games... really dude you basically made the 360 look like it's totally in capcable too, because you said the cell only plays movies because of the inclusion of blu ray, why did you for get the the xbox triple core PPU also plays dvds, and an add-on for HD-dvd. if we take your argument there then we can say that the360 isn't suited for games because it's game libraray which is ran on dvds as the storage medium is greatly out tripped by the amount of movie dvd it can play. dont for get that sont knows it's technology and they were in the video gaming industry since the days of nintendo, and i mean the first one... dont for get the supplied nintendo with the sound cards for both the nintendo and super nintendo, and a little phenominon known as gameboy, they then got more hands on and dropped the world revoltionary Playstation (1) so go figure uyour arguements, if it's anybody who is still learning about gaming it's microsft, they've only been in the market industry for console gaming for 6 years. the Ps3 is equaly a gaming console as the 360 is as is the wii and another console out there. please bro do not speak such fud, if you want to speak truth research first as it only edifies you and makes you look much better when trying to swing the argument your way.
I think this has to do with the petition that was made to make Haze come out only on the PS3 and you can see why it would not be a smart move to make the game come out only on the PS3.
That's what I thought when I read it too - good to see there's someone I see eye to eye with.
Well I know a I am getting it on day one. I think this may be a good game. Hopefully Ubisoft will redeem themselves fo that crappy Splinter Cell port. After that I think it is best that they focus on the PS3 version first to get it right, then do the 360 version since they got that one down already.
it was a smart thing to do..they dont want to compete against halo 3..even if it does have halo 2 graphics..if xbots is buyin halo 3..whos goin to be purhasing haze? only a few perhaps..i think his made because haze looks so good..even better then gears of war.
have not actually played halo 3 you are just judging on the screenshots i too felt the same way about halo 3 when i saw the screenshots then i played the game and to say they are the same is a ridiculous comment the graphics are so much better i mean put in halo 2 look at a b.r.(battle rifle since you prob don't know what i'm talking bout) and then pick up the same gun in halo 3 it is suprisingly alot better graphics the weapon detail is far superior in halo 3 i'll give you the spartan models don't look fantastic but they are still better
Halo3 is priority to most 360 gamers, not all can buy several titles.. Ubi wants Halo3 to cool down (if ever) before releasing Haze to 360 (if ever) to secure better sales.
Anyhow, when ever Haze comes, I'm sure I will buy it. (especially after horrible experience with the Hour of Victory demo.. damn!.. poking gums with needles is more tempting than that game, worst ever.)
whether it is or not, lets just hope haze is really good.........
BlueBlad is right about the cell. You do realize the "almighty" cell processor is in a stand alone Bluray player as well and is not at all a gaming CPU. Actually if you would do your research you would know that when Sony started engineering the cell processor in a joint effort with IBM, they also started the R&D behind Bluray. This was about 4 yrs ago. The cell chip was designed as a number crunching photoimaging powerhouse specificly to play Bluray discs. The PS3 having Bluray is no bonus to the consumer and also is no coincidence. This has been Sonys plan for over four years to get royalties for all their electronic medias, to force Bluray as the common media of choice into everyones home through the PS brand recognition. You can read reviews everywhere of the cell chip, and every developer says its a nightmare to program for. That is because the cell chip isn't designed for gaming at all, it was solely designed to run Bluray and multimedia. This is Sony's main goal. To trick the consumer into thinking they need Bluray.....Even if PS3 fails Sony still wins..if Bluray wins...They will make more money off Bluray royalties than they ever would have with PS3.
Here are some examples(quotes from people in the industry)
It's not coming to the desktop market and was never meant to. There are a lot of architectures that are designed just for networking, database, and server requirements. The Cell is one of these
Sony found out the hard way it sucks as a general purpose cpu. They were only banking on using the cell by itself to do all the graphics processing like they did with the emotion engine in the PS2... they got 75% done and went 'Crap this thing sucks at this' and had to slap on the nvidia gpu.
)Now to move on the CPU, the Cell has only one PPE to the IBM's Xenon's three, which means that developers will have to cram all their game control, AI, and physics code into at most two threads that are sharing a very narrow execution core with no instruction window.Not forgeting that the cell processor was only produced for multimedia, not gaming. While the xenon CPU was made for specificaly gaming.
We all heard the talk, that the Cell processor would wipe away all before it. Of course anyone with any knowledge of this kind of technology would see it for what it is, more Sony bullshit. Remember the PS2?
1000 times the power of any PC. 66Gb/s of memory bandwidth. Toy Story graphics in real time. And such & such.
The same kind of outrageous claims were made with this Cell processor which is developed by IBM, Toshiba, and Sony. They claim this to be completely "revolutionary". It's not, you can clearly see it's relation to the Playstation 2's processor. In that it's basically lots of weak processors bolted together, the fundamental reason the Playstation 2 is so insanely difficult to develop for and why developers are dropping it and shifting focus to the Microsoft Xbox 360. Which like all Microsoft platforms is notoriously fast and simple to develop for. Allowing developers to spend more time creating decent games instead of struggling to try and get their software to even work.
Mark my words, you will never see the cell processor in gaming PCs, EVER, it was already rejected by Apple.....The SPUs ine the PS3 are designed for streaming or video imaging(For Bluray). That is why developers are having such a hard time trying to force the SPUs to run game code,(most developers won't even use them) and thats why games are being delayed time and time again. The cell sucks for gaming applications.(Period) And as a testament to games being ran totally on the RSX it is true, that is why third party ports have such crappy frame rates on PS3 because the video card has half the video ram of the 360s and the SPUs arent even used.(as they are only intended for imaging of Bluray)
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